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It has less to do with that and more to do with the breakdown of the nuclear family. It all traces back to fathers staying home and raising their children. Single income families will never escape pov

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I really try to consider every opinion with an open mind, realizing we all have different values, thought processes, cultures, etc. But some of you make this so fucking difficult. I am a school cou

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In the name of “curriculum transparency,” Florida’s Republican-controlled state government has appointed several anti-gay and anti-mask conspiracy theorists to take charge of a new effort at public schools: banning books.

This hastily assembled censorship council—tasked with retraining public school librarians to abide by new restrictions—is the latest ploy in Gov. Ron DeSantis’ crusade to upend the state’s education system.

 

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But the council was also staffed under suspicious circumstances, with the state Education Department ignoring its own call for official candidates from local school districts and instead filling most of the slots with right-wing activists who have a history of proposing book bans. One was even nominated by a religious activist with close ties to the DeSantis administration a week before the department publicly called for candidates, according to government emails, hinting at secret coordination between them.

“It calls into question the process that the Florida State Board of Education is trying to implement. It raises significant transparency questions,” said Megan Uzzell at Democracy Forward, which obtained those government emails.

 

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While the “parent workgroup” is only getting started, the Education Department’s recent meeting in Orlando last week revealed how the state is positioning itself to spread those controls from school libraries to teachers’ classrooms.

As the meeting ended, Clinton McCkracken, the head of the Orange County teachers union, made a comment to another parent: “I don’t know what to tell my teachers.”

 

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The recent episode began with an Aug. 12 memo from Education Department senior chancellor Jacob Oliva. The memo called for local school districts to nominate “parents of students in K-12 schools for representation on a workgroup”—one charged with creating mandatory “training” that would guide librarians statewide on how to follow new library censorship rules signed into law by Gov. DeSantis earlier this year. School districts had a week to submit the names of qualified nominees.

The Education Department passed on nearly 100 potentially qualified applicants with relevant experience, records show. In Brevard County alone, it ignored the five submissions made by the bipartisan local school board, including the nomination of a former elementary school assistant principal, the director of Eastern Florida State College’s tutoring centers, and the administrator of a local scholarship fund.

Instead, the department went with a woman who nominated herself: Michelle Beavers.

While other candidates have teaching experience, Beavers’ bona fides consist of right-wing activism. She leads the local chapter of Moms for Liberty, a MAGA contingent that has antagonized her school board for years over mask mandates—and allied with DeSantis for his recent attempt to outlaw critical race theory in schools.

 

Since then, Beavers has been actively seeking to ban books. In March, she emailed a Brevard County assistant superintendent about what was then the 19th title on her growing list of targets: the coming-of-age comic book This One Summer, which mentions lesbians and shows teenagers engaging in typical crude humor.

Beavers thanked the assistant superintendent for her “efforts to get this material vetted and hopefully out of our minors hands.” In other emails, Beavers identifies herself as the “head of the Library Book Committee,” explaining that she built a “comprehensive report” that reviews all of the “offensive items” in certain books. She warned about “books that are porn” and opposed a parent opt-out program in a specious and sweeping statement full of grammatical errors.

“These books violate the law, it’s a felony. So why would you try and still defend there [sic] existence by letting parents opt out?” she wrote.

Beavers and the other three appointed parents are now in a working group that is finalizing the presentation that will be used to train school librarians statewide.


The marching orders come from the top. In March, Gov. DeSantis said parental rights should be at the helm of a child’s education.

“We are not going to let politicians deny parents the right to know what is being taught in our schools. I’m proud to sign this legislation that ensures curriculum transparency,” the governor said in a statement at the time.

“While teachers, school administrators, and school board members have a tremendous amount of authority over what and how our kids are taught in school, at the end of the day, parents—not schools—are responsible for raising children,” added Florida state Republican Senate Leader Wilton Simpson.


Last week’s Education Department meeting was the latest example of the encroaching restrictions, when it unanimously voted to implement rules guaranteeing so-called “parental rights.” The department determined that parents must be notified if their child uses a school restroom or locker room that does not correlate with the child’s sex assigned at birth.

Meanwhile, censorship measures that initially targeted school libraries were extended to individual teachers’ classroom collections, which must now “be reviewed by a district employee holding a valid educational media specialist certificate,” according to Florida’s state website. The board also decided that educators could lose their teaching certifications if they do not comply with the state’s Parental Rights in Education law.

Bad Apples
At Wednesday’s meeting, state education board member Grazie Pozo Christie, a senior fellow for The Catholic Association, cited the need “to hold teachers accountable” for those she called “some bad apples.”

Teachers already suffer through poor working conditions, low pay, and staff shortages—being subject to state review of classroom books adds even more to their plates, McCracken, the Orange County teachers union head, said in an interview with The Daily Beast.

“The board voted… to require that all of those books have to be cataloged now. Which, of course, is an arduous task for teachers who may have hundreds of those books. So, in effect, for a lot of those teachers, that means that those classroom libraries won’t be available to students any longer until we can figure out how to manage that,” he said. “Laws like this are created to demonize public education.”

McCracken criticized how the meeting was scheduled in a way that would conflict with teachers’ work schedules and low salaries: 9 a.m. on a school day at a hotel with a hefty price tag for paid parking.

Despite emotional testimonies from concerned teachers, the board didn’t budge.

Teachers who have taken years to build their classroom book collections—available to students who can’t always take solo trips to the library—will now be burdened with the task of indexing their own shelves for so-called content restrictions, McCracken said.

“The classroom library has been an amazing tool for teachers to be able to inspire kids to read,” McCkracken said.

“So what are those kids going to do if the libraries aren’t there?” he asked. “They’ll have less access to important material that would inspire them to read and to learn. The state has created a situation that is harming students.”

Book Burning Training
The little-known and quickly assembled “work group” developing this book ban training is a pivotal part of this effort—which makes it all the stranger that the Education Department engaged in what critics are calling a bad faith effort to staff it.

Two parents who applied for Florida’s Department of Education media workgroup told The Daily Beast they raised their hands because they were interested in the books being challenged in schools.

“I'm very familiar with the research of psychological research for children, where it can be disruptive to introduce some of the pornographic material early or over-sexualized material early,” said Hillary Earle, who applied for the media group after seeing an announcement on the neighborhood app NextDoor.

Despite her years of academic and mediation accolades, as well as an endorsement from a school board member, Earle didn’t know she wasn’t selected for the media workgroup until her interview with The Daily Beast.

“This is the first I’m hearing of it,” she said. “I haven’t received anything: a phone call, an interview, anything.”

By contrast, Scott Rooke received a Brevard County school board member endorsement after expressing previous interest in children’s reading material. But he only discovered he wasn’t selected by way of a blog, Account Baloney. He immediately recognized the names of two Moms for Liberty members who did make it: Michelle Beavers and Jennifer Pippin.

The parent-membership seems slanted from the start when I just saw those two names,” he said.

The woman that took his place, Pippin, was not officially recommended by a school district. Instead, emails show, her name was submitted by Keith Flaugh, a childless conservative activist whose “Florida Citizens Alliance” has closely advised DeSantis for years on reforming public schools to combat “cultural Marxism" and "LGBTQ values" in favor of “Judeo-Christian family values.”

When discussing proposed training for librarians and media center employees at a recent working group meeting, Pippin, who drove and sat in her car for the duration of the meeting, chimed in to remind everyone, “I’m not a media center specialist,” noting she didn’t even understand some of the abbreviations being used in the mandated materials she intends to craft.

A third MAGA mom now on the book banning work group is Jamie Merchant, a member of “Mamas for DeSantis” whose summer reading included the book Crimes of the Educators, a call to demolish American public schools written by two known conspiracy theorists—one of whom runs a website that warns about “cancer deaths from the COVID jabs.”

Contentious Consensus

By all accounts, the panel tasked with developing the oncoming mandatory librarian training for the Education Board is a slow-moving train wreck. When the group reviewed the PowerPoint slides at their recent meeting last week, the department’s director of instructional materials, Amber Baumbach, punted on presenting what would obviously be the most controversial and contentious material.

Faced with questions about disagreements, the group director revealed that the Education Department might soon get two versions of the presentation—in what critics like Stephana Ferrell with Florida Freedom to Read Project expect to be a sane version and one that caters to the crazies. The DeSantis administration—which has already spent considerable energy attacking “woke” culture—would decide which option to take.

“If we can’t reach a consensus…it is possible for us to route two different versions of the training,” one of the options that we have is to provide two different points of view,” Baumbach said.

The working group is scheduled to meet again publicly this coming Tuesday, when it will present the slides that address what these conservatives deem offensive material—and is expected to spark more protests from worried parent groups already battling these book bans, like Florida Freedom to Read Project.

“The goal is to have the most conservative counties determine what the rest of the state has access to. It’s to allow a conservative ideology to hold rank over the rest of us,” said the project’s co-founder, Stephana Ferrell. “That’s what all of this is about. The attack on teachers, the banning of books—they need parents to not trust public education, so that they’re fed up and take taxpayer dollars into the for-profit education sector.”

 

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“The goal is to have the most conservative counties determine what the rest of the state has access to. It’s to allow a conservative ideology to hold rank over the rest of us,” said the project’s co-founder, Stephana Ferrell. “That’s what all of this is about. The attack on teachers, the banning of books—they need parents to not trust public education, so that they’re fed up and take taxpayer dollars into the for-profit education sector.”

The excerpted quote from your article spot on and combining this sequence of events with the (eventual) overturning of Affirmative Action by SCOTUS, and rendering Brown v Board of Education of Topeka essentially a footnote in history of when America tried to do the right thing. Once private schools dominate then de facto segregation based on race and socioeconomic status will as well not that it hadn't already based on boundary/zoning and other methods.

 

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What in the marionette twitching nonsense is going on here?



He’s used to being surrounded by sycophants. So it’s not strange that he wouldn’t know how to deal with adversity. But unlike his mentor tfg, I think he’s betraying a bit of conscience. Deep down he knows he’s deeply insecure and at core an asshole. When his pol bros are high fiving him for spending tax dollars to fly helpless people around, it’s all smiles. But when confronted with a decent normal human being, he withers.
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So saw this tweet yesterday:

It's something that I've noticed well before this. DeSantis holds a lot of little mini congratulatory press conferences and if someone does push back, he IMMEDIATELY gets defensive and gets that kind of whine in his voice and starts lashing out. Most people don't see it since it's not on a national stage. But if he decides to run and starts taking heat from national media and the other candidates on a debate stage, I could quickly see it turning south for him. (No idea, however, if stuff like that matters anymore.)

Trump for all his antics can be charismatic to his audience. Hell, I can't stand the guy and admit he has said some funny stuff. I don't know that DeSantis actually has that. Trump also has a way of pushing back and making it sound like he is "fighting." DeSantis' pushing back just sounds like "whining."  

I just don't see DeSantis being able to go toe-to-toe with Trump and not come away looking like this:

Charlie Brown over here': Twitter roasts Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' awkward photo with Joe Biden | Tampa | Creative Loafing Tampa Bay

 

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9 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I just don't see DeSantis being able to go toe-to-toe with Trump and not come away looking like this:

As much as Ted Cruz is a piece of shit, he has some reasonable amount of debate presence and composure, even when Trump was unabashedly slamming Ted's character and his wife's looks, and even when a remnant from Ted's pre-debate snack makes an appearance.

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Trump might make DeSantis openly cry during a debate.

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As much as Ted Cruz is a piece of shit, he has some reasonable amount of debate presence and composure, even when Trump was unabashedly slamming Ted's character and his wife's looks, and even when a remnant from Ted's pre-debate snack makes an appearance.

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Trump might make DeSantis openly cry during a debate.

So Ted Cruz is another one -- when he argues it sounds like he is fighting. But, not charismatic. 

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3 hours ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

So saw this tweet yesterday:

It's something that I've noticed well before this. DeSantis holds a lot of little mini congratulatory press conferences and if someone does push back, he IMMEDIATELY gets defensive and gets that kind of whine in his voice and starts lashing out. Most people don't see it since it's not on a national stage. But if he decides to run and starts taking heat from national media and the other candidates on a debate stage, I could quickly see it turning south for him. (No idea, however, if stuff like that matters anymore.)

Trump for all his antics can be charismatic to his audience. Hell, I can't stand the guy and admit he has said some funny stuff. I don't know that DeSantis actually has that. Trump also has a way of pushing back and making it sound like he is "fighting." DeSantis' pushing back just sounds like "whining."  

I just don't see DeSantis being able to go toe-to-toe with Trump and not come away looking like this:

Charlie Brown over here': Twitter roasts Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' awkward photo with Joe Biden | Tampa | Creative Loafing Tampa Bay

 

I've been saying this for a while. Desantis is short and has a whiny, nasally voice. Trump will have this guy in literal tears on stage in 5 minutes. He'll be "Squeaky little Ron Desantis" and he'll never recover.   

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As I’ve written before. Desantis wilts under pressure. During the gubernatorial contest in 2018, Andrew Gillum routinely dragged his ass for points.

Yeah, he folds under pressure a lot easier than you'd think of a U.S. Naval Officer.  he musta had some confidence at some point to get that piece of ass for a wife unless it was a "mayo/paula" situation at the shipyards.  

As Longhorn Bob Wheeler would say, "Ron is not forged of a 'hotter fire'."  Maybe gorged of a hotter buffet.  

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On 10/27/2022 at 4:53 PM, TheStoicPaisano said:

Pasta Boy would be more appropriate TBH. Or ‘That Whole Yale Thing.’

Trump should take some time to come up with some better ones.  I always liked the [adjective.firstname] combo. 

Crooked Hillary.  Low-Energy Jeb.  Little Marco.  Lyin' Ted. 

It's like he was creating his own set of Garbage Pail Kids.

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No, he literally procreated his own set of Kids from a Garbage Pail.  

I mean, I think Tiffany might be okay in the end.  Shit even Barron had a shot but he's fucked now that his literal most formative 6 years are occurring right alongside him figuring out hid father had a hand in almost ending the world and his mother is a Balkan sex worker who swallowed men's cum for cash.  

Ivanka is the one who was technically on White House payroll which means she can be held to a higher standard of criminality.  Donald will watch her marched off to prison.  Eric will voluntarily go to prison to protect Dad because he doesn't grasp the leverage he has.  Donald, Junior will die of a fentanyl overdose in early 2024.  Barron will eventually murder 3 or 4 people before taking his own life.  Tiffany will marry, change her name immediately, and fade into obscurity.  Melania will be dead by 60, 65 tops due to a fucked up lifestyle.  The only good news about Trump living longer than  fat tub of shit like him should is he gets to see some of his loved ones die on his watch.  

Back to DeSantis...his wife seems nice.  she's obviously been duped, but I kinda like her.

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34 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Trump should take some time to come up with some better ones.  I always liked the [adjective.last name] combo. 

Crooked Hillary.  Low-Energy Jeb.  Little Marco.  Lyin' Ted. 

It's like he was creating his own set of Garbage Pail Kids.

What does his staff do other than order buckets of chicken?

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