Desantis is a POS and needs his own thread

[Biff Tannen 45692]

3 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

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13 hours ago, South Austin said:

Yeah, if I recall correctly, there were rumors that his ex might have fooled around with eaten one of Russell's teammates. 

Fixed.

[Bookman 4639]

13 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

what's incredible to me still is how disinterested desantis is in winning this election. it's texas democratic governor candidate bad.

I wouldn't go that far.

[South Austin 52521]

15 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

what's incredible to me still is how disinterested desantis is in winning this election. it's texas democratic governor candidate bad.

At least Desantis isn’t going to take the loss sitting down.

[Sawbonz 27580]

On 8/14/2023 at 11:52 AM, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

 

On 8/14/2023 at 12:24 PM, South Austin said:

 

On 8/14/2023 at 12:32 PM, TheStoicPaisano said:

We all laugh but the truth is if he somehow falls into the nomination and wins, that goofy psychotic looking open mouthed guffaw is going to be the reaction face of every fucking MAGA Q-per. 

[Horn Dog 9877]

Awkward Americans see themselves in Ron

https://apple.news/A6UuufwY0RF2iT-Mc6m4DgQ
 

Spoiler

After watching awkward videos of Ron DeSantis, Derek Guy had a horrifying realization.

Guy, a fashion writer known as the “Menswear Guy” writer to his large following on social media, had noticed people on X, formerly known as Twitter, making fun of the Florida governor and Republican presidential hopeful for throwing off weird vibes on the campaign trail. Some of these moments have been captured on video, as things tend to be during a presidential campaign: DeSantis struggling to make small talk with voters; bursting into strange paroxysms of wide-mouthed laughter; appearing to sugar-shame a child drinking an Icee at an Iowa fair.

“What’s your name?” DeSantis asked a voter in a recent clip from a New Hampshire diner.

“Tim,” the man responds.

“Okay,” says DeSantis.

In another video, from a party after the Iowa GOP’s Lincoln Dinner, DeSantis stands ramrod straight, taking gulps of beer and checking the time on his phone and telling potential voters that normally he would already be asleep.

As he sought to connect with voters and donors, critics said DeSantis had resembled — to quote a couple of posts — “a robot put together from scrapped spare parts from Disney’s The Hall of Presidents” or “an extraterrestrial in a skin-suit trying to learn to be human.”

But when Guy, the menswear writer, watched a video of DeSantis cycling through four different facial expressions in about three seconds during a news conference, he saw something even more disturbing.

“Oh, God,” he remembers saying to himself. “That’s me.”

The governor’s anti-charisma — his apparent struggles to make small talk, his propensity for letting a smile fall too quickly from his face — reminded Guy of himself at parties. Or the time he had no idea what to say after a fan of his fashion writing recognized him at a tailoring shop.

“It was exactly like those DeSantis moments,” he said. “A normal human being would understand how to light up your face, how to engage, how to say the right thing. But DeSantis doesn’t have that. And I definitely don’t have that.”

Guy is not the only awkward American who has identified with DeSantis as he has emerged as the Awkward Candidate.

“Like Ron DeSantis, I spend every day trying to act like a human,” said Michelle Witherspoon, an environmental consultant in California.

“Every time I watch the videos, I cringe,” said Kate Ecke, a therapist from New Jersey who recently forgot to bring identification when picking up her child at summer camp and subsequently “really weirded out” a counselor by offering to show her C-section scar as proof of motherhood. “But I’m cringing because I’ve been that person.”

“It’s extremely relatable to me,” said Audrey Kamena, an incoming freshman to Yale University who said she once called her high school history teacher “Mom” and still thinks “about it every night before bed.”

Alex Whitlock, a stay-at-home dad and a “Never Trump” Republican from West Virginia, found himself relating to DeSantis after reading an article that mentioned that the governor made people uncomfortable with his “propensity to devour food during meetings.”

“I don’t always have an appropriate sense of when to eat or not eat,” said Whitlock, who also said he rarely knows when he’s supposed to shake someone’s hand.

There have been rare cases where the Awkward Candidate managed to make it to the White House. Richard M. Nixon’s ability to make small talk was, according to New York magazine, “a talent at which he is as naturally gifted as, say, the late Harpo Marx.” (Harpo was the one who didn’t talk.) Calvin Coolidge once said that he was “as much interested in human beings as one could possibly be, but it is desperately hard for me to show it.”

Still, awkwardness is not the kind of relatability a politician necessarily wants. It’s safe to say the DeSantis campaign was hoping their man would be defined by attributes such as toughness or youth.

“Before he ran for president, he was this abrasive governor, always fighting with reporters and giving off an impression of being extremely confident,” said Joseph Coll, a native Floridian who is now in Arizona getting his law degree. “Now he’s like a sad puppy, and it’s surprising that he actually feels relatable to me.”

Before law school, Coll used to work as a recruiter for a health-care company, a job that often required him to try to “be normal” in front of potential clients.

“I was terrible at it,” he said. “I definitely came across as a DeSantis.”

If you’re “a DeSantis,” the campaign trail is no place to hide it. The never-ending rope line can test the skills of even the most socially adept politician, let alone somebody who doesn’t naturally light up a room.

“Someone asked me the other day, ‘Is it true that Jeb would hand out turtles?’” said Tim Miller, a former spokesman for Jeb Bush, another Florida governor turned presidential candidate. “It was true! He’d hand out these toy turtles as an awkward way of trying to connect with people.”

Bush could be open about his struggles with the “performative” nature of running for president, Miller said, admitting publicly that he considered himself an introvert. “It landed with certain people,” Miller said. “But in this political era, it certainly isn’t a benefit.”

Case in point: Miller says the moment that has come to represent Bush’s failed effort — his famous plea for a New Hampshire town hall audience to “Please clap” — was actually “pretty well received” in the room as a self-deprecating joke. But when the moment got clipped and shared endlessly on social media, it was weaponized against his so-called low-energy campaign.

A candidate — or at least a person — who embraces their awkwardness might be better off than one who doesn’t, according to Henna Pryor, author of the forthcoming book “Good Awkward: How to Embrace the Embarrassing and Celebrate the Cringe to Become the Bravest You.” Pryor said that, when researching her book, she found studies that showed a “direct correlation” between expressing awkwardness and the perception that a person is “trustworthy, likable, more generous and, surprisingly, more confident.”

But for that to happen, she said, the awkward person actually needs to “acknowledge the cringe.”

“His problem is he never owns it and names it,” Pryor said of DeSantis. “If he did, it would highly improve his likability.”

When it comes to political people such as DeSantis, the question of likability has to do with a lot more than how deftly they “own” their awkwardness. There are plenty of people who both relate to DeSantis and find him detestable for his politics.

“If I shared his politics, maybe I would find it a little more likable,” said Guy, the menswear writer.

“If his polices weren’t so abhorrent, it would be more endearing,” said Coll, the law student.

“It’s all part of what I consider a negative personality,” said Whitlock, the Never Trumper stay-at-home dad. “I can’t tell where the awkwardness that I relate to ends and the malicious figure begins.”

“Given the decision between voting for him and getting a Pap smear from a girl I went to high school with,” said Ecke, the therapist, “hand me the paper gown.”

Even potential supporters such as Kamena, the soon-to-be college freshman, worry that DeSantis’s struggles might be a problem for him.

“Sometimes it gives me a little hope that I can be in public policy someday and be given a little bit of grace,” she said. “Though maybe he isn’t receiving much grace …”

He is receiving plenty of ridicule. The rival Trump campaign — who reportedly paid a plane to fly a sign that read, “Be likable, Ron!”— and the campaign stumbles have become a running gag for the satirical newspaper the Onion, whose headlines include, “Poll Finds Ron DeSantis Candidate Voters Could Most Imagine Drinking Beer Alone.”

The Awkward Candidate label might prove hard to shed, once it sticks. This summer, DeSantis made headlines for the kind of slightly off-putting exchange that probably would have passed under the radar if not for his reputation for maladroit chitchat. While visiting a fair in Iowa, he asked a child what she was drinking. She told him it was an Icee.

“That’s probably a lot of sugar, huh?” he responded. “Good to see ya.”

“I feel like there have been 800,000 times that I’ve said the equivalent of that to someone,” said Scott Shapiro, a Yale professor who dislikes DeSantis’s politics. “And while I understand where he’s coming from and can relate, it only confirms my feeling that I should not run for president.”

 

[TDunk 590]

On 8/16/2023 at 5:32 AM, South Austin said:

At least Desantis isn’t going to take the loss sitting down.

He seems more of a power bottom.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5114]

On 8/14/2023 at 11:52 AM, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

Has he already devolved into doing reaction videos on YouTube?

[Sawbonz 27580]

2 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

“What’s your name?” DeSantis asked a voter in a recent clip from a New Hampshire diner.

“Tim,” the man responds

 

[ConferenceRoom 6144]

On 8/15/2023 at 5:10 PM, Biff Tannen said:

I was just explaining this movie to my wife a couple of days ago. She was flabbergasted. 

[Biff Tannen 45692]

1 hour ago, ConferenceRoom said:

I was just explaining this movie to my wife a couple of days ago. She was flabbergasted. 

I just saw it for the first time a couple of weeks ago.  This scene just slays me.

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

The super PAC posted all the debate prep material and a bunch of other internals on an open site and the NYT got tipped off

 

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Ron DeSantis needs “to take a sledgehammer” to Vivek Ramaswamy, the political newcomer who is rising in the polls. He should “defend Donald Trump” when Chris Christie inevitably attacks the former president. And he needs to “attack Joe Biden and the media” no less than three to five times.

A firm associated with the super PAC that has effectively taken over Mr. DeSantis’s presidential campaign posted online hundreds of pages of blunt advice, research memos and internal polling in early nominating states to guide the Florida governor ahead of the high-stakes Republican presidential debate next Wednesday in Milwaukee.

The trove of documents provides an extraordinary glimpse into the thinking of the DeSantis operation about a debate the candidate’s advisers see as crucial.

“There are four basic must-dos,” one of the memos urges Mr. DeSantis, whom the document refers to as “GRD.”
 

“1. Attack Joe Biden and the media 3-5 times. 2. State GRD’s positive vision 2-3 times. 3. Hammer Vivek Ramaswamy in a response. 4. Defend Donald Trump in absentia in response to a Chris Christie attack.”

The documents were posted this week on the website of Axiom Strategies, the company owned by Jeff Roe, the chief strategist of Mr. DeSantis’s super PAC, Never Back Down.

The New York Times was alerted to the existence of the documents by a person not connected to the DeSantis campaign or the super PAC. After The Times reached out to Never Back Down for comment on Thursday, the group removed from the website a key memo summarizing the suggested strategy for the debate.

Super PACs are barred by law from strategizing in private with political campaigns. To avoid running afoul of those rules, it is not unusual for the outside groups to post polling documents in the open, albeit in an obscure corner of the internet where insiders know to look.

Posting such documents online is risky — the news media or rivals can discover them, and the advice can prove embarrassing. But super PACs often decide the risk is justified to convey what they consider crucial nonpublic information to the candidate without violating the law.

And you can just go download them yourself but for how long?
 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Bozo_Casanova

[Lurch 5931]

[Red Five 40874]

Defend the guy facing 91 felony counts who is currently beating the shit out of you. Good call.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20453]

5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Defend the guy facing 91 felony counts who is currently beating the shit out of you. Good call.

 

 

[tx 3 putt 77154]

 

meatball going to meatball 

[Neonmoon 38129]

CNN has the softest interviewers. Tapper is one of the worst. Allowing anyone to say the investigation into Trump's ties to Russia was not legitimate is untrue and refuted by the Mueller report. 

[tx 3 putt 77154]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

CNN has the softest interviewers. Tapper is one of the worst. Allowing anyone to say the investigation into Trump's ties to Russia was not legitimate is untrue and refuted by the Mueller report. 

Release the mueller report 

[atomheartbevo 89737]

20 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Defend the guy facing 91 felony counts who is currently beating the shit out of you. Good call.

And the guy who won’t stop mocking you and calling you names.  Defend your bully, Meatball, instead of luring him to your house with a promise that you’ll pay him $10 a week not to bully you, and when he shows up, you pull a gun on him, and get his clothes off and tie him up, and scare him with threats to do things to him and his family that cause him to cry and piss himself, all of which you record on your dad’s VHS camcorder, and the next day at school, he magically leaves you alone   

But Meatball is going to take it, just like Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush did.  Because that’s what Republican men do.  Let draft-dodging former Democrats from New York City bully them around.    

[Red Five 40874]

37 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

I don't get it. He could be convicted of all of this shit and still win the nomination in a landslide.

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

and here's the debate prep memo. Fascinating.

The best advice
 

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3.Invoke a personal anecdote story about family, kids, Casey, showing emotion

 

[bluto 4933]

 

[tx 3 putt 77154]

[GhostOfTomJoad 9340]

It's working, Meatball.

[Restless Native 315]

23 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

I'm surprised that suit jacket doesn't have his name embroidered on it.

[Kel Varnsen 8539]

[Pescado_Rojo 19426]

6 minutes ago, Restless Native said:

I'm surprised that suit jacket doesn't have his name embroidered on it.

I found the label..

[4th&Five 41565]

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

37 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

I knew those looked familiar

[mchookem 16338]

i mean wtf is with the stupid cowboy boots anyway... he's from fucking swampass Florida, not Texas or Colorado or even California. 

 

[Born to Run 6569]

"W were boots, maybe if I wear boots people like me." That's probably the full amount of thought applied.

Wait till his tie gets longer and he starts wearing orange makeup

[GhostOfTomJoad 9340]

18 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i mean wtf is with the stupid cowboy boots anyway... he's from fucking swampass Florida, not Texas or Colorado or even California. 

 

But remember, in his book ol' Ron "identifies" as a citizen of Ohio or Pennsylvania...known meccas of authentic western bootwear.

[atomheartbevo 89737]

2 hours ago, mchookem said:

i mean wtf is with the stupid cowboy boots anyway... he's from fucking swampass Florida, not Texas or Colorado or even California. 

It's the only way he can wear high heels and still attack trans people.

And if by some miracle Trump ends up on a debate stage with him, you can bet he'll mock his heels.

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

2 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

But remember, in his book ol' Ron "identifies" as a citizen of Ohio or Pennsylvania...known meccas of authentic western bootwear.

pshaw. I bet they wear beads and Roman sandals up there.

[YGIFS 19452]

Anymore questions, asshat?  

Yeah, does Ted Cruz know that you raided his boot rack? 

YOU JUST BOUGHT YOURSELF ANOTHER TWO WEEKS!  

I mean, Lobo bullshit aside.  Trump is doing to you exactly what he did to beta-cuck Ted Cruz.  Insulting you, debasing nicknames, winding up to insult you on stage in the very soon debate, and telegraphing shit about your wife and physical appearance.  And your move is to go and buy a pair of boots that look exactly like Ted Cruz?  And you're claiming that you're not mentally disabled, Governor?  

Edited August 17, 2023 by YGIFS

[tx 3 putt 77154]

Does desantis realize how stupid he looks wearing the same cowboy boots every fucking day ?

[4th&Five 41565]

[Pescado_Rojo 19426]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

Does desantis realize how stupid he looks wearing the same cowboy boots every fucking day ?

I mean...at least they aren't square toe. 

[WhatTheBuck 28791]

On 8/15/2023 at 11:22 AM, atomheartbevo said:

Russell Wilson's wife, in the moments before she devoured him and the dog

Edit: ex-wife

Damn, it's been a while, didn't realize it was so long ago - they've already been divorced for almost a decade.

[linux 1660]

9 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

and here's the debate prep memo. Fascinating.

The best advice
 

 

It is painfully obvious from this that he is just wasting time until Donald dies, I mean seriously it is also not working because even in the meek state the hardcore crowd hates desantis, it is the first tenets of fascism, only the leader is pure everyone else is impure and must be purged.

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

When it's gotten so bad you push a puff piece about your debate coach

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O’Donnell met Karl Rove when the then-White House adviser gave Liberty’s commencement speech in 2004. “I said to Karl Rove, ‘You know John Kerry has a debate coach, and you need one for President Bush.’ He kind of laughed and I laughed, and I didn’t think anything would happen,” O’Donnell told the Harvard Crimson in 2012. “Then a couple days later, he called and said, ‘Were you serious?’ and I said ‘Sure.’” Rove brought him on to prepare Bush for his 2004 debates. “I saw a chance and I took it,” O’Donnell said during a return visit to Liberty in 2010. “That was truly God’s work.”

 

 

 

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

12 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

 

 

[The Dog 44066]

[6th Street 6432]

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-hammers-desantis-debate-prep-leak-praises-vivek-ramaswamys-campaign-catching-lightening-in-a-bottle/
 

Fox and Friends openly mocking Ronald's campaign strategy 

[Restless Native 315]

41 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-hammers-desantis-debate-prep-leak-praises-vivek-ramaswamys-campaign-catching-lightening-in-a-bottle/
 

Fox and Friends openly mocking Ronald's campaign strategy 

Haha one of the comments says that Ramaswamy is like a cockroach that fully supports Raid.

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

1 hour ago, Restless Native said:

Haha one of the comments says that Ramaswamy is like a cockroach that fully supports Raid.

I like this line and will steal it

[Sawbonz 27580]

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okay, ‘Governor, is that your thought or is that just your super PAC talking?'” Doocy said. 

 

[HenryJames 66133]

 

[cactusflinthead 27601]

 

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