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It has less to do with that and more to do with the breakdown of the nuclear family. It all traces back to fathers staying home and raising their children. Single income families will never escape pov

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I really try to consider every opinion with an open mind, realizing we all have different values, thought processes, cultures, etc. But some of you make this so fucking difficult. I am a school cou

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On 11/28/2022 at 10:15 AM, Chuckie Finster said:

Its gonna be funny death spiral shit when you and the rest of your friends fall in line behind Donald again in March 2024 and pretend that you've never heard of this guy.

March 2024? Great prediction there, Nostradamus. Why'd you have so much faith in Ana, his friends, and Ron DeSantis?

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52 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

FL has 3 more years with the meatball  lulz

Tiny D is America's flacid pen...nisula.

This dude is a dud.

He'll be a footnote in a history book banned by.. checks notes.... him?

If a politician embodied the essence of a 'cuck', this is him.

What a JAG-off.

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2 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Can you imagine how much of a shit sandwich this guy is going to have to eat for the rest of his term from all the Florida power brokers he pissed off now that he no longer has hope of MAGAing his way to higher office?
 
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lot of FL R's turned their back on him. he's going to be out for revenge 

plus he's going to lose the diseny lawsuit

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lot of FL R's turned their back on him. he's going to be out for revenge 

plus he's going to lose the diseny lawsuit

He’s going to take out his frustrations on that poor state and he’s a mightily frustrated dude. We might see shit like the great gatsby and Tom Sawyer banned in Florida soon. Who knows how crazy Desantis can get.

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He’s going to take out his frustrations on that poor state and he’s a mightily frustrated dude. We might see shit like the great gates by and Tom Sawyer banned in Florida soon. Who knows how crazy Desantis can get.

Just like Greg Abbott and Texas.  He's angry, he needs attention, and he's going to lash out at the people closest to him.

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1 minute ago, Voldemort86 said:

He’s going to take out his frustrations on that poor state and he’s a mightily frustrated dude. We might see shit like the great gatsby and Tom Sawyer banned in Florida soon. Who knows how crazy Desantis can get.

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6 hours ago, Voldemort86 said:

He’s going to take out his frustrations on that poor state and he’s a mightily frustrated dude. We might see shit like the great gatsby and Tom Sawyer banned in Florida soon. Who knows how crazy Desantis can get.

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Florida school district pulls dictionaries and encyclopedias as part of "inappropriate" content review

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6 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Uhhhh . . . .

 

 

Dictionaries obviously have picture of dicks in them.

And encyclopedias are for pedophiles.

 

It's right there in the name.

 

Are you guys daft?!

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14 hours ago, Voldemort86 said:

He’s going to take out his frustrations on that poor state and he’s a mightily frustrated dude. We might see shit like the great gatsby and Tom Sawyer banned in Florida soon. Who knows how crazy Desantis can get.

Yeah, I think this is accurate. I get the feeling he's going to go even deeper into the culture war stuff.

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10 hours ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Yeah, I think this is accurate. I get the feeling he's going to go even deeper into the culture war stuff.

Conservatives who celebrate his agenda and accomplishments are idiots. Any governor can ram just about any policy thru with the super majorities he has.  It’s like a varsity team celebrating being able to run the ball all over a team of 7th graders.

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Dictionaries obviously have picture of dicks in them.

"Dictionaries?" Well lah-dee-dah. We call em wordbooks, brother. Wordbooks if you ever decide to talk American, which me and our social club hope you do. Anyway, don't matter none. Wordbooks-- don't need em, don't want em. If I want to learn fancy words I'll just piss on a Frenchman. Mmmmmm... Frenchman...

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I agree.  There's no Senate seat available to him for the next two classes; and no current GOP'er should they win in 2024 or 2028 will put him in their cabinet.  

My curiosity is what the fuck does he do from November 2026 to November 2028?  I mean speaking tours or corporate gigs or non-profits is the usual route for somebody termed out but looking to run again for high office, but the guy is about as entertaining as malaria.  He'd literally have to pay people to come here him speak or be on their board.  Marco Rubio said DeSantis is what Ambien takes when Ambien has trouble falling asleep.  

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In Florida, you need parent permission to attend a book reading of a book written by....checks notes because it sounds absurd....an African American.

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So a fireman, or a doctor, or an artist may be attending?  Could they not have just said man, woman, camera, tv?

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Meatball getting more pushback from all sides.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/desantis-faces-pushback-in-florida-as-voters-tire-of-war-on-woke/ar-BB1jBb8t

 

DeSantis faces pushback in Florida as voters tire of war on woke© 

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The bill banning rainbow flags from public buildings in Florida sounded like a sure bet.

State Rep. David Borrero (R), the legislation’s sponsor, argued that it was needed to prevent schoolchildren from being “subliminally indoctrinated.” That rationale echoed other measures championed by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) as part of his “war on woke.”

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But instead of sailing through the Republican-dominated legislature, the DeSantis-backed bill died a quick legislative death, making it only as far as one subcommittee.

It wasn’t the only culture war proposal from conservative lawmakers to end up in the bill graveyard during the session that ended Friday. One rejected bill would have banned the removal of Confederate monuments. Another would have required transgender people to use their sex assigned at birth on driver's licenses — something the state Department of Motor Vehicles is already mandating. A third proposed forbidding local and state government officials from using transgender people’s pronouns.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) delivers remarks in Lake Buena Vista on Feb. 22.© Joe Burbank/Orlando Sentinel/AP

Some of those ideas have come up in the past and may surface again next year. But the fact that the bills failed, even with public support from DeSantis, marks a change from the days when the GOP supermajority in Tallahassee passed nearly everything the governor asked for.

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Florida has firmly cemented itself in recent years as ground zero for the nation’s culture wars. The Sunshine State is the birthplace of conservative parental rights group Moms for Liberty, the original law restricting LGBTQ+ discussion in classrooms, one of the strictest abortion laws in the country and legislation that has led to the banning of more books than in any other state in America.

But the pushback is growing.

Parents and others have organized and protested schoolbook bans. Abortion rights advocates gathered enough signatures to put the issue on the ballot in Florida in November. A bill that would have established “fetal personhood” stalled before it could reach a full vote.

Judges are also canceling some of DeSantis’s marquee laws, including the “Stop Woke Act.” A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit ruled Monday that the law “exceeds the bounds” of the Constitution’s First Amendment right to freedom of speech and expression.

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Even the governor recently admitted the state might have gone too far in trying to remove certain books from school shelves, suggesting laws on book challenges should be “tweaked” to prevent “bad actors” from having too much influence.

Democrats and other DeSantis critics say the laws that the governor has pushed will continue to shape public life in Florida for years to come, and they don’t expect the Republican supermajority in the state House to suddenly abandon conservative causes. But they do sense a shift.

“When his presidential race ended, I think that a lot of his influence and power died at the same time,” said state Sen. Shevrin Jones, a South Florida Democrat. “And I think that people in Florida and across the country, including Republicans, are starting to see that the culture wars are getting us nowhere.”

Pushback from within

In the past year, the Florida GOP has been rocked by a sex scandal involving the party chairman and infighting between DeSantis and Trump supporters.

GOP voter registration numbers continued to surpass Democrats, but the party lost two local races they were expected to win: the mayor’s office in Jacksonville, and a closely contested special election to replace a Republican state representative near Orlando.

The legislative seat flipped blue in January when Democrat Tom Keen defeated his Republican rival, a conservative school board member who raised more than twice as much money and promised to fight “the woke agenda.” Keen campaigned on lowering property insurance rates and protecting access to abortion.

People prepare for an event Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) held at LaBelle Winery on Wednesday in Derry, N.H.© Matt McClain/The Washington Post

DeSantis, who was largely absent from the state while he campaigned for the GOP presidential nomination, has urged lawmakers to “stay the course.” But his doomed presidential bid changed political calculations in and out of the state.

Many lawmakers credit Republican Senate President Kathleen Passidomo for some of the shift. Passidomo stopped several culture war bills from progressing in the Senate, including one that would have punished local officials who oversaw the removal of Confederate monuments.

DeSantis strongly supported the bill, arguing that it is problematic to apply a “hyper-woke 21st-century test” to historical figures.

“It’s totally appropriate for the legislature to say, ‘You know what? We’re going to stop this madness,’” DeSantis said at a news conference in Jacksonville in February, two months after the city pulled down a controversial Jim Crow-era monument called “Women of the Southland.”

Among the public speakers who supported the monuments bill at a Senate hearing was a man who said he wanted to protect Confederate statues to “push White culture, white supremacy.”

Crews begin the process of removing the “Women of the Southland” monument in Jacksonville, Fla., on Dec. 27.© Bob Self/Florida Times-Union/AP/AP

Democrats walked out of the hearing, while Republicans on the committee — some of whom visibly recoiled at the white-supremacy remarks — approved the bill. But Passidomo refused to bring it to the full Senate.

“I'm not going to bring a bill to the floor that is so abhorrent to everybody,” she said.

The Senate president also rejected most of the 10 bill priorities the state Republican Party outlined in a legislative wish list, saying the party didn’t dictate what lawmakers should do.

DeSantis did not respond to a request for comment but said Friday at an end-of-session news conference that he was satisfied with what was passed by the legislature this year. Sponsors of the bills protecting monuments and outlawing rainbow flags also did not respond to requests for comment.

DeSantis did see some of his priorities pass. The legislature approved a law that the governor pushed prohibiting sleeping in public. And a ban on “woke meat” — food products cultivated in a lab from animal cells — easily got the green light from Republican lawmakers.

“You need meat, okay? Like, we’re going to have fake meat? That doesn’t work,” he said at a news conference in February, rejecting arguments that banning it could stifle innovation.

Demonstrators protest Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s plan to eliminate Advanced Placement courses on African American studies in high schools as they stand outside the Florida Capitol on Feb. 15 in Tallahassee. (Joshua Lott/The Washington Post)

Even DeSantis’s budget requests faced pushback this year. The governor wanted an additional $5 million for his controversial migrant relocation program, but lawmakers only agreed to current spending levels. He also tried to add $57 million toward the recently reestablished Florida State Guard. Legislators signed off on a lower amount — $18.5 million, and added a requirement for detailed spending reports from the agency.

“What we saw this session was that bills that were either DeSantis ideas or retreads from last year really didn’t get anywhere,” said the state House’s minority leader, Fentrice Driskell. “I think in large part it’s because DeSantis has lost steam. He lost on the national stage, and that emboldened the Republicans in the legislature to feel like they don’t have to go along to get along with this guy anymore.”

Tired of woke

Parents in Miami-Dade County founded Moms for Libros last year as an antidote to Moms for Liberty, the Florida-based group promoted by DeSantis.

The founders of Moms for Libros — Moms for Books — say they got together to battle what they see as censorship in schools. Their ranks have grown in the past year, and they say their messages — promoted in English, Spanish and Haitian Creole — are resonating even with parents who initially supported DeSantis’s education bills.

“A lot of the conservative Cuban American parents I talk to say they thought it was just about keeping sex out of schools,” said Vanessa Brito, co-founder of Moms For Libros. “But when they learn what was really happening, like when they heard that a book about Celia Cruz was taken off the shelves, they are very concerned. Having the government come in and tell you that your kids can’t have a book about Celia Cruz, that caused an uproar.”

The book, “Celia Cruz, Queen of Salsa,” was temporarily removed from Duval County schools last year.

Linda Mobley hangs her head in prayer as she holds a book that could be banned under the state's newly adopted curriculum standards on African-American history, during an education town hall regarding the state's newly adopted curriculum standards on African-American history at Antioch Missionary Baptist Church, Thursday, Aug. 10, 2023 in Miami Gardens, Fla. (D.A. Varela/Miami Herald via AP)© D.A. Varela/AP

Brito said she talks to parents who are starting to object to the state’s growing list of rules and laws pertaining to education. In one incident that made international headlines, a Miami-area school required students to get parental permission to attend an “extracurricular activity” that included a talk by Florida historian Marvin Dunn, a Black scholar who has chronicled racist incidents in state history.

“Republican, Democrat, independent, people just don’t want books banned in our country. So it was just a collection of bad ideas that imploded on DeSantis,” Dunn said. “And now he’s actively trying to back off of these policies that have caused so much confusion in the state and in the education system at all levels.”

School officials said they were only following the new laws; DeSantis said they were being “absurd” and told them to “knock it off.”

“The vagueness of the laws have led to full-blown censorship, and people now see that happening in real time,” said Brito, who voted for DeSantis the first time he ran for governor in 2018. “And from what I’ve seen, they’re getting tired of ‘woke this, woke that.’”

The governor has also seen his “anti-woke” agenda challenged in court. In addition to the recent ruling on the “Stop Woke Act,” federal judges have halted enforcement of a law DeSantis signed last year that targeted drag shows. A different court declared that a rule from the state health agency that would ban Medicaid payments for gender-affirming care is unconstitutional.

Marvin Dunn leads a tour discussing race and discrimination in Florida’s history on Jan. 8, 2023, in Rosewood, Fla.© Zack Wittman for The Washington Post

DeSantis did nonetheless score a legal victory when a federal appeals panel sided with him over the Walt Disney Co. in January in regards to the state takeover of the entertainment giant’s special taxing district. But even with that win, the consequences of the feud have been far reaching, with the company canceling plans to build a $1 billion employee campus in Florida.

Pocketbook worries mount

Since his return from the campaign trail, DeSantis has been flying around the state holding news conferences several times a week. He’s talked about congressional term limits, making retail theft a felony and cracking down on rowdy spring breakers. He’s also sent more state law enforcement officers to the southern border in Texas and ordered the release of grand jury records from the Jeffrey Epstein case.

Political analyst Susan MacManus said voters in Florida are paying more attention to pocketbook issues than culture war laws, and state lawmakers — most of whom are up for reelection this year — need to pay attention. Republicans who may have been following DeSantis’s lead on laws that target the LGBTQ+ community and Black history are hearing different concerns when they return to their districts.

“There’s a concern I’m hearing more and more from people, and in the media, that Florida is becoming too expensive,” said MacManus, professor emeritus at the University of South Florida. “We’re seeing stories on the nightly news about people moving out of the state because the cost of living is too high here.”

With homeowners and auto insurance costs that are more than triple that of other states, MacManus said Republican and Democratic voters have more pressing concerns than culture wars.

A new housing development in Zephyrhills, Fla., on June 23.© Tina Russell for The Washington Post

“These legislators are coming back and, and their families and friends are saying they should be doing something that is going help us,” MacManus said. “The woke things may be interesting to some Republicans, but there are bigger issues.”

Mike Fasano, a lifelong Republican who served in the House and Senate for 18 years and is now the Pasco County tax collector, said most culture war issues are not on the minds of families struggling to pay rising property and auto insurance costs.

“I don’t think families, whether they’re Republican or Democratic or independent, are sitting at the breakfast table talking about which books should be banned,” Fasano said. “They’re talking about how they’re going to pay their rent or mortgage and the electric bill and the premium on their homeowners insurance.”

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20 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

1) No matter what the facts are, the allegations will not even slightly dent Trump, but WILL make MAGA enraged at DeSantis. 

2) It also pisses off the accommodationist wing of the Republican party. 

Net result, all his potential supporters furious for zero possibility of any gain. 

Classic Ron. 

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