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It has less to do with that and more to do with the breakdown of the nuclear family. It all traces back to fathers staying home and raising their children. Single income families will never escape pov

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I really try to consider every opinion with an open mind, realizing we all have different values, thought processes, cultures, etc. But some of you make this so fucking difficult. I am a school cou

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4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The strategy of tracking planes for coaching hires is now being utilized to foil legal immigrant trafficking. These pilots are going to find police waiting for them in many jurisdictions.


I hope this doesn’t turn into a 2 year faa investigation 

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44 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

None of it literally stresses me out.

Only so much an individual can do.  Letting politics, the other, people on the internet in general stress you out is pretty pointless.

You know we've read your posts that you've made here over the past few years, right?

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15 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You know we've read your posts that you've made here over the past few years, right?

Crap  - were we supposed to be actually reading his posts all this time??

My approach to Incredulity posts was always:

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12 hours ago, YGIFS said:

How they’re doing this without tail numbers and filed ATC is beyond me.  This isn’t some four seat Cessna that can go off instrument/VFR within the state.   That kinda equipment, weight and huge refuel, somebody’s gonna take note at an FBO if the FAA doesn’t   Plus, all that military traffic back in San Antonio, they frown upon anything but IFR  

also, who the fuck is just walking out the detention/services center with 50 more immigrants AFTER the story last week?   

 

Are airports managed by federal laws or state laws?  What is stopping the FAA or individual states from saying that any planes or buses suspected of interstate human trafficking will not be refueled and will be immediately confiscated pending trial. 

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Are airports managed by federal laws or state laws?  What is stopping the FAA or individual states from saying that any planes or buses suspected of interstate human trafficking will not be refueled and will be immediately confiscated pending trial. 

"It depends."  There are folks more in the know on this here but if you're an FBO departing/arriving private aircraft immediately adjacent to a commercial airport, I believe you are under federal law.  "Immediately" meaning you can taxi out from your apron to their runway.  Smaller non-commercial airports and some air strips that are exclusively for private FBO/VRR-based flights with no ground access to a commercial/international runway network...I think there's some avoidance of federal law.  I do know there's a couple of rinky-dink airstrips just outside 1604 in San Antonio that require their craft to file IFR because of all the air force traffic around that area.  So there's tons of exceptions, including small airstrips near international borders due to potential for smuggling, failure to submit passenger manifest for ICE/Border Patrol purposes (even our border states with Cananda have these rules in effect, and a lot of 'em in Alaska.    

Where I'm left scratching my head is who the fuck walked off that San Antonio parking lot with 50 high-profile Venezuelans all with no luggage and the same fucking pamphlet.  Who at the FBO watched those folks board what has to be a mid-sized/regional jet (even the guys who deal with private jets all day in the groundscrew take note of the bigger birds and didn't think anything of it (groundscrew didn't think it odd almost 60 people with security and crew boarded with no fucking luggage and looking like nobody had showered or popped their collar for the Vineyard?).  How'd they avoid filing IFR with SAT.  Where the fuck are the tail logs?  How'd a bird that big stop and refuel and nobody come inside and inquire about taking every last drop of Jet A? 

And then on Martha's Vineyard.  Yeah, they get commercial traffic and planes bigger than this one, but somebody at the Boston approach desk and then the FCT on the Island........nobody thought to say....."hey that's weird........that's a fair sized bird with no IFR on file and she looks like she's coming from so far south, we can't even pinpoint on our maps what her origin is."  There's no fucking non-stop flights on regional sized jets from Tallahassee or San antonio.  To an FCT with no other intel to go on, would assume a plane that size is commercial and would be another red flag.  This isn't Airplane III:

"Uh, identify yourself!" 

"Oh us?  We're just 50 paying passengers, 3 crew, and 3 armed security...nothing to see here....Requesting 39L"

And then Jacobs says something funny.

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So.....here's my question to old Ken, the literal CHIEF LAWYER for the State of Texas.....how, precisely, is a Sheriff (an office that has criminal investigatory powers, as a matter of law) opening an investigation into alleged criminal activity "unlawful?"  Got a citation for us, Ken?  A statute...a case....something?  Or is this just more GQP "everything I don't like is illegal?" idiocy?  You don't have to answer that last one, Ken.  We all know the answer.

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Here's the full text of the lawsuit.

https://www.scribd.com/document/595752254/DeSantis-Class-Action

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On information and belief, the Defendants procured and paid $615,000 for private chartered planes ($12,300 per passenger), transported class members to the aircrafts, and told them they were flying to Boston or Washington, D.C., which was completely false.Instead, the chartered airplanes dropped Plaintiffs off on Martha’s Vineyard in the evening, with no food, water or shelter. No one on Martha’s Vineyard— or, on information and belief  — anywhere in Massachusetts — knew they were coming. The Doe Defendants disappeared and did not answer alarmed calls from the class members to get information about what had gone wrong after they landed. But nothing had “gone wrong.” Instead, the scheme worked exactly as the Defendants intended.

6. These immigrants, who are pursuing the proper channels for lawful immigration status in the United States, experienced cruelty akin to what they fled in their home country.Defendants manipulated them, stripped them of their dignity, deprived them of their liberty, bodily autonomy, due process, and equal protection under law, and impermissibly interfered with the Federal Government’s exclusive control over immigration in furtherance of an unlawful goal and a personal political agenda.

 

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26 minutes ago, Homercles said:

An IFR what…flight plan?  You can (at least for now) see them publicly:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N411FJ
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N359SK

 

N411FJ flew out of Longview today, through Nashville onto Teterboro in NJ.  Apparently earlier it was set to repeat a flight from San Antonio, through that Destin airport, and onto Delaware…coinciding with another payment made to Vertol:  https://weartv.com/amp/news/local/state-pays-another-950k-to-destin-company-that-flew-migrants-to-marthas-vineyard

But, per FlightAware, that didn’t happen.

Apparently they didn’t comment on it at a press conference today.   Lawsuit gave them cold feet?

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/09/20/desantis-next-move-bidens-delaware-home-could-be-migrant-flight-stop/?outputType=amp

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I like the lawsuit. But I like it the way I like a dominos pizza….it’s tasty enough, it’ll do at a kids birthday party. But fuck that, I want to Home Slice pie with pepperoni, sausage, and mushrooms, with a cold beer. I want the whole fucking thing: charge DeSantis with the slam dunk federal kidnapping charge, including the kidnapping of minors, which has a mandatory minimum sentence of 20 MOTHERFUCKING YEARS.
I’m sick of these lawless, criminal shitbags. FRY THEM. No more tolerance, no getting away with it, no mercy. Fry every. Last. One of them.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I like the lawsuit. But I like it the way I like a dominos pizza….it’s tasty enough, it’ll do at a kids birthday party. But fuck that, I want to Home Slice pie with pepperoni, sausage, and mushrooms, with a cold beer. I want the whole fucking thing: charge DeSantis with the slam dunk federal kidnapping charge, including the kidnapping of minors, which has a mandatory minimum sentence of 20 MOTHERFUCKING YEARS.
I’m sick of these lawless, criminal shitbags. FRY THEM. No more tolerance, no getting away with it, no mercy. Fry every. Last. One of them.

So how do we make this happen?  Excuse my ignorance of the law.  Can we not strongly suggest it to the DOJ somehow?  Do we just have to leave it to them to come up with the charges?

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Lead Counsel: "My God, Desantis is invoking the Billy Joel Defense."

Junior Counsel: "The Billy Joel Defense, sir?"

Lead Counsel: "Correct.  It says, 'I have charted a course to the Vineyard.  But tonight I am Nantucket bound', you understand the people with whom we're dealing.  I read about them in my book 'Astonishing Tales of the Sea'."  

Gotta give FoxNews credit, even KLBJ.  Immediately shifted to a dialogue that if we're so worried about where they go once they're inside our borders, we should pay more attention to how they got in our borders to begin with (because that's apparently never been discussed in the history of our country). 

I'm a logistics guy by trade.  If you show me an illegal way of transporting cargo, in this case humans, to demonstrate how wrong it is to illegally transport cargo...I'm gonna ask questions about how...you know...you illegally transported cargo.  The way those Venezuelans got from San Antonio to Martha's Vineyard is beyond me.  It requires so many people to have either been in on it or silenced, that it cannot have happened.  Not in this day and age.  But it did occur.  I feel like Sam Rothstein in "Casino" when the three slot jackpots get hit in a row and he's looking at the political stooge in the corner, "It cannot happen!"..........."either he was in on it or he's incompetent, either way...I cannot have it."  

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Lead Counsel: "My God, Desantis is invoking the Billy Joel Defense."

Junior Counsel: "The Billy Joel Defense, sir?"

Lead Counsel: "Correct.  It says, 'I have charted a course to the Vineyard.  But tonight I am Nantucket bound', you understand the people with whom we're dealing.  I read about them in my book 'Astonishing Tales of the Sea'."  

Gotta give FoxNews credit, even KLBJ.  Immediately shifted to a dialogue that if we're so worried about where they go once they're inside our borders, we should pay more attention to how they got in our borders to begin with (because that's apparently never been discussed in the history of our country). 

I'm a logistics guy by trade.  If you show me an illegal way of transporting cargo, in this case humans, to demonstrate how wrong it is to illegally transport cargo...I'm gonna ask questions about how...you know...you illegally transported cargo.  The way those Venezuelans got from San Antonio to Martha's Vineyard is beyond me.  It requires so many people to have either been in on it or silenced, that it cannot have happened.  Not in this day and age.  But it did occur.  I feel like Sam Rothstein in "Casino" when the three slot jackpots get hit in a row and he's looking at the political stooge in the corner, "It cannot happen!"..........."either he was in on it or he's incompetent, either way...I cannot have it."  

That's a lot of references, flip flop.

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11 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that once this shit went pear-shaped, Hot Wheels realized it was his chance to knock the fat little elf down a couple of notches in the pecking order.

It also drove reproductive rights off the front page. Got approached by an Abbott staffer when out and about and gave dude an earful when he asked if Abbott had my support. Everything Abbott does is performative nonsense and the two things he did actually do-begin the expansion of rural broadband and devote some effort towards the TXDOT backlog were thanks to the federal infrastructure plan for which the governor took sole credit instead of promoting bipartisanship state/federal inclusiveness, something the GOP was bitching about for the last two years. Poor kid, never approach a Karen in the wild.

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