new Los Angeles Dist. Atty. has some new ideas

[Gil Bang 25,898]

Bunny Colvin approves

 

 

[Foosters 17,733]

Bill Melugin is a walking audition for Fox News Channel and is an odious mouthpiece of Sheriff Villanueva and Chief Moore.

So, it's no surprise that on a day in which new DA George Gascon announces that he will:

-no longer be seeking the death penalty

-no longer be trying juveniles in adult court

-be eliminating cash bail for misdemeanors

-end the filing of enhancements on felony complaints,

Melugin focuses on that.

 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Foosters

[HenryJames 65,890]

 

[Foosters 17,733]

I'm sitting in court right now. Watching DAs dismiss strike priors, gang enhancements, and prison priors. Years being lopped off in real time.

[Sbbruin 21,736]

There are positives, but the unintended consequences will be interesting.

[Foosters 17,733]

3 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

There are positives, but the unintended consequences will be interesting.

I am not confident these changes will be lasting. To truly tackle crime and to reform the system, it must be a multi-faceted approach that seeks to seriously address poverty, childhood education, mental health/substance abuse, and homelessness. I fear that in 3-4 years, people will look at the statistics (crime rates are already increasing) and simply revert back to the before.

Here's a fun real world example though: Today I had a guy accused of spray painting a "gang sign" on two pillars outside a building. Due to his record, and the gang enhancement, he was looking at 15 years in prison. 15 years for some spray paint. Now, his max is 3 years.

[SimonBolivar 10,931]

18 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Bunny Colvin approves

 

 

Only if they're declining to prosecute those crimes in Hamsterdam. Colvin was a peace and order kind of guy outside of there.

[RDCanecutter 26,275]

In my day, Gascons settled everything by dueling.

[Dnaguy 11,775]

4 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

There are positives, but the unintended consequences will be interesting.

Where the fuck am I going to offload my 30 tons of sodium thiopental ?

What a terrible investment!

[workswithseed 2,036]

39 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I am not confident these changes will be lasting. To truly tackle crime and to reform the system, it must be a multi-faceted approach that seeks to seriously address poverty, childhood education, mental health/substance abuse, and homelessness. I fear that in 3-4 years, people will look at the statistics (crime rates are already increasing) and simply revert back to the before.

Here's a fun real world example though: Today I had a guy accused of spray painting a "gang sign" on two pillars outside a building. Due to his record, and the gang enhancement, he was looking at 15 years in prison. 15 years for some spray paint. Now, his max is 3 years.

Holy fuck. That is excessive as shit. 

[Gil Bang 25,898]

41 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I am not confident these changes will be lasting. To truly tackle crime and to reform the system, it must be a multi-faceted approach that seeks to seriously address poverty, childhood education, mental health/substance abuse, and homelessness. I fear that in 3-4 years, people will look at the statistics (crime rates are already increasing) and simply revert back to the before.

Here's a fun real world example though: Today I had a guy accused of spray painting a "gang sign" on two pillars outside a building. Due to his record, and the gang enhancement, he was looking at 15 years in prison. 15 years for some spray paint. Now, his max is 3 years.

are you with the PD's office, or private practice?

[henrygandorf 29,177]

6 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

There are positives, but the unintended consequences will be interesting.

i'll just say what everybody is thinking.  eventually i will fall in love with a prostitute.

[washparkhorn 9,935]

2 hours ago, Foosters said:

15 years for some spray paint. Now, his max is 3 years.

Both are absurd.

2 hours ago, Foosters said:

I am not confident these changes will be lasting. To truly tackle crime and to reform the system, it must be a multi-faceted approach that seeks to seriously address poverty, childhood education, mental health/substance abuse, and homelessness. I fear that in 3-4 years, people will look at the statistics (crime rates are already increasing) and simply revert back to the before.

Agree. It will take a full court press to make a difference. California is edging towards real reform of the system. But the messaging has to be perfect or it will fail under an onslaught of "fear porn" from the loud conservatives and nimby's in the state. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by washparkhorn

[tantric superman 4,667]

6 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

There are positives, but the unintended consequences will be interesting.

Shit could get real.

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

4 hours ago, Foosters said:

I am not confident these changes will be lasting. To truly tackle crime and to reform the system, it must be a multi-faceted approach that seeks to seriously address poverty, childhood education, mental health/substance abuse, and homelessness. I fear that in 3-4 years, people will look at the statistics (crime rates are already increasing) and simply revert back to the before.

Here's a fun real world example though: Today I had a guy accused of spray painting a "gang sign" on two pillars outside a building. Due to his record, and the gang enhancement, he was looking at 15 years in prison. 15 years for some spray paint. Now, his max is 3 years.

It does seem to need to be coordinated like right now with quasilegal arrangements that prevail in LA's Skid Row. Are there places for trespassers to go where they won't be bothering somebody materially? (I don't give too much of a shit about squatters.)

[Foosters 17,733]

Nice remark from a sitting anti-Semitic judge here in LA:

Quote

“I don’t think voters appreciated the impact of his policies nor how they had also left San Francisco in a societal crisis. This lack of appreciation is one of the reasons that Soros has focused on local elections for mayors and district attorneys as those elections simply do not receive the close attention that higher offices do. While he claims that his policies are based on data, science, etc., I have not seen any disclosure of such information and think it is highly likely they are based on the Soros strategy and objective to destabilize the United States city by city. Those policies are also greatly at odds with his oath to uphold the law as a result of his one person flouting of years of policy decisions by the Legislature.”

Unsurprisingly, judges have spent the last week refusing to dismiss enhancements even after the DAs have been moving to dismiss. God forbid we can't continue to lock people up at rates higher than anyone else in the world.

[TwiceHorn 31,280]

Is he anti-Semitic based on some other behavior?  Because first thing I think of when I hear Soros invoked is crazy Trumper.  Anti-Semitic is likely part of that package, but that's down the list a ways.

Nonetheless, I think this is a good illustration of the Flynn problem:  no matter how much you don't like the government's decision to dismiss a case or a count or an enhancement, the judge can't have any say in that.

Edited December 17, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Foosters 17,733]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Is he anti-Semitic based on some other behavior?  Because first thing I think of when I hear Soros invoked is crazy Trumper.  Anti-Semitic is likely part of that package, but that's down the list a ways.

Nonetheless, I think this is a good illustration of the Flynn problem:  no matter how much you don't like the government's decision to dismiss a case or a count or an enhancement, the judge can't have any say in that.

I assume that when people attack wealthy jews for bankrolling marxists to destroy our way of life, that anti-Semitism plays a pretty large role, yes. 

 

[workswithseed 2,036]

54 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Nice remark from a sitting anti-Semitic judge here in LA:

Unsurprisingly, judges have spent the last week refusing to dismiss enhancements even after the DAs have been moving to dismiss. God forbid we can't continue to lock people up at rates higher than anyone else in the world.

He doesn't like one jew, so he must hate all jews. Makes sense in your head.

[Foosters 17,733]

2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

He doesn't like one jew, so he must hate all jews. Makes sense in your head.

Hey! There you are. Haven't seen you in months. Funny you pop up to defend someone spreading George Soros conspiracy theories.

Strange.

[workswithseed 2,036]

Just now, Foosters said:

Hey! There you are. Haven't seen you in months. Funny you pop up to defend someone spreading George Soros conspiracy theories.

Strange.

It's funny that you claim antisemitism on no proof.

Strange, why would you do that?

[hobbes2702 12,844]

12 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

It's funny that you claim antisemitism on no proof.

Strange, why would you do that?

It’s truly amazing the hills you choose...

[workswithseed 2,036]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s truly amazing the hills you choose...

Truly not an answer.

[Foosters 17,733]

14 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

It's funny that you claim antisemitism on no proof.

Strange, why would you do that?

I posted evidence that a judge made anti-semitic remarks. I surmised, based on that, that he/her is anti-semitic. You are . . . . what is it your doing? Defending an anonymous judge you know nothing about. Why? Where's your proof? Do you have conflicting evidence to give me?

If someone said "The Rothschilds are secretly bankrolling the Marxists to destroy Western Civilization," do I need to run through the speaker's history of Jewish relationships before I conclude that person is anti-Semitic? 

If someone says "The holocaust is a hoax" do I need to scan their entire social media history before I can call them anti-Semitic?

But whatever. You exist, at least on this site anyway, to defend the alt-right, Trump, anti-Semitic comments (apparently), and whoever is currently at the vanguard of battling the BLM movement. That's the path you have chosen.  You aren't an outright troll so, kudos, I guess, but @hobbes2702 is right - your actions define you, and all I've seen is someone willing to go to the mattresses for trolls, the alt-right, and racists. 

[workswithseed 2,036]

Just now, Foosters said:

I posted evidence that a judge made anti-semitic remarks. I surmised, based on that, that he/her is anti-semitic. You are . . . . what is it your doing? Defending an anonymous judge you know nothing about. Why? Where's your proof? Do you have conflicting evidence to give me?

If someone said "The Rothschilds are secretly bankrolling the Marxists to destroy Western Civilization," do I need to run through the speaker's history of Jewish relationships before I conclude that person is anti-Semitic? 

If someone says "The holocaust is a hoax" do I need to scan their entire social media history before I can call them anti-Semitic?

But whatever. You exist, at least on this site anyway, to defend the alt-right, Trump, anti-Semitic comments (apparently), and whoever is currently at the vanguard of battling the BLM movement. That's the path you have chosen.  You aren't an outright troll so, kudos, I guess, but @hobbes2702 is right - your actions define you, and all I've seen is someone willing to go to the mattresses for trolls, the alt-right, and racists. 

"Soros strategy and objective to destabilize the United States city by city"

You posted this. Is there more where he dislikes all jews or something? I better not see you hating one person, cause that means you hate the whole ethnicity.

[TwiceHorn 31,280]

There are probably a fair number of morons that do not know or care that Soros is Jewish or the Rothschilds.

They just swallowed a conspiracy theory.

Of course, a lot of the theorists put a lot of stock in their Jewishness.

[Foosters 17,733]

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

"Soros strategy and objective to destabilize the United States city by city"

You posted this. Is there more where he dislikes all jews or something? I better not see you hating one person, cause that means you hate the whole ethnicity.

Would your distaste dissolve if I simply said "the judge - whose motivations cannot be gleaned at this time - peddled a famously tired anti-Semitic trope?"

 

 

[workswithseed 2,036]

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

Would your distaste dissolve if I simply said "the judge - whose motivations cannot be gleaned at this time - peddled a famously tired anti-Semitic trope?"

 

 

Sure, that's better than.

1 hour ago, Foosters said:

I assume 

 

 

[Foosters 17,733]

Just now, workswithseed said:

Sure, that's better than.

 

Let me put it in a way you can understand.

If someone said "Donald Trump is a capitalist pig hell bent on destroying the working class." Is it fair to assume that person is a marxist/socialist? I'd say so. Is it possible your assumption could be wrong? Of course.

So, similarly, when someone parrots an anti-Semitic talking point that has been recycled for years, I assume that person is an anti-Semite. Could I be wrong? Sure.