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10 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Stumblin may gone after tonight's game...

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-an-update-on-kevin-sumlin-arizona/ 

Sources: An update on Kevin Sumlin & Arizona

By John Brice -  December 11, 2020

Where have the halcyon days of the … Rich Rodriguez era gone at Arizona?

It wasn’t too long ago that the Wildcats, a somewhat quiet, on-again, off-again power program in the Pac-12 Conference, went to five bowls in six seasons under Rodriguez, including a Pac-12 South title and a berth in the New Year’s Six Fiesta Bowl.

Rodriguez, however, followed up a 3-9 2016 campaign with a 7-6 ledger a year later, and coupled with other issues in the athletics department, was dismissed in Tucson, Arizona.   Kevin Sumlin slid into the job after a disappointing close to his time at Texas A&M, and now Sumlin has yet to post a winning record or postseason appearance in three challenging years atop the Arizona program. The Wildcats had mustered just a 9-19 mark in Sumlin’s three years going into Friday night’s contest at home against rival Arizona State, which only has played two games thus far in the abbreviated season that has been delayed by COVID-19 but turned in a strong start previously under coach Herm Edwards.

Sumlin, who’s earned an average salary just below $3 million at Arizona would be owed a buyout of around $5 million should Arizona make a change.

Again, however, the Arizona job has some incredibly positive elements. There’s a strong tradition of success and Rodriguez showed an ability to find success in the modern, expanded PAC-12.  The job also has paid consistently in the top half of the PAC-12, there’s good in-state talent and the obviously ability to recruit nearby California, as well as West Texas.

Look for Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian to be perhaps the top candidate for the position. Sarkisian has head coaching experience already at a pair of PAC-12 powers, Southern Cal and Washington, and presently is the engineer of perhaps college football’s most explosive offense for the top-ranked Crimson Tide. He’s turned down other jobs just a year ago, after being closely linked to both Colorado and Mississippi State, but everyone from Nick Saban to Lane Kiffin is championing Sarkisian as ready for his next head coaching opportunity.

Former Colorado, UCLA and Washington coach Rick Neuheisel is another name worth monitoring at Arizona. Sources with direct knowledge tell FootballScoop.com that Neuheisel is interested in making one more run at success with a major-college program.

USC offensive coordinator Graham Harrell, San Jose State coach Brent Brennan, UCF coach Josh Heupel, who’s maintained strong success despite key injuries and opt-outs this season for the Knights program and continues to engineer an exciting, tantalizing offense, and Oregon defensive coordinator Andy Avalos are names to watch, per industry sources, college football coaches and current PAC-12 staffers. Ryan Nielsen, a Southern Cal graduate with Power-5 experience at North Carolina State and presently in charge of the New Orleans Saints’ defensive line, is another name to watch in the mix in Tucson. Nielsen’s considered an excellent developer of talent and understands recruiting and program development.

There will be other candidates with interest in the job. It’s just too attractive a proposition for many coaches to ignore.

Finality of a decision is expected within 24 hours. 

Sumlin to Sarkisian? Is the idea here to drink yourself sober?

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42 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

If Stumblin has any kind of buyout, does Arizona even give a shit enough about football to can him?

https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/kevin-sumlins-contract-includes-10-million-reasons-to-stick-with-arizona-for-at-least-two/article_03b988ae-e36a-5285-882b-c71afd942962.html

 

Article from Jan 2018.

 

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Similarly, the UA will owe Sumlin $10 million if he is fired without cause in Year 1 or Year 2. The buyout shrinks to $7.5 million in Year 3 and $5 million in Year 4. If the UA fires Sumlin in the final year of his contract, he would simply be owed the balance of his deal.

 

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Heard Ariz  alumni have $7.5mill buyout ready.

"But Sumlin has two years left on his contract and a buyout of $7.5 million. Arizona, along with most other universities, will find it hard to scrape that much together. Also, it’s a bad look to pay a departing coach millions when you’ve laid off and furloughed employees."

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2020/12/11/arizona-football-should-move-kevin-sumlin-can-afford-to/6518572002/

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14 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Well you both are our bitch this season.

Bitch?  C'mon.  You won with an assist from phantom lineman downfield calls.  Don't act like you beat our ass.  And how did you only manage 27 points against that sorry-ass team?

And I missed most the game anyway since I was wandering around Shelter Island pulling my wagon with a cooler full of Stone IPA for me and Whiteclaws for you.  Up and down every slip.  Calling your name.  I don't think you sailed down here to be honest.

 

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8 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

This game used to be so good and was hyped. ASU completely pimp slapped Arizona. 

 

6 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said:

If Stumblin has any kind of buyout, does Arizona even give a shit enough about football to can him?

UA was dumb enough to can Rodriguez who was pretty much their ceiling, and ideally suited for making 2* recruit sausage.  So I guess they have some idiot that cares enough to mess up a good thing. 

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2 hours ago, Upgrayedd said:

Bitch?  C'mon.  You won with an assist from phantom lineman downfield calls.  Don't act like you beat our ass.  And how did you only manage 27 points against that sorry-ass team?

And I missed most the game anyway since I was wandering around Shelter Island pulling my wagon with a cooler full of Stone IPA for me and Whiteclaws for you.  Up and down every slip.  Calling your name.  I don't think you sailed down here to be honest.

 

What?  I was blasting my air horn beckoning you.  I felt slighted.

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6 minutes ago, SDG said:

wishful thinking: I said it up thread, Urban comes to Texas and Tom goes to Arizona.  
 

won’t happen but one can hope.  

Arizona has a track record for hiring others mistakes.   Rich Rodriguez, Sumlin.....why not Tom?

Oh and John Mackovic....   

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1 hour ago, Dark Horse said:

Honestly didn't know ol' Stumblin was still coaching.  Thought he was an analyst somewhere.

he is....he is at AU analyzing how to collect a shit tonne of cash being a shitty coach....well was the analytics said lose your ass and take a buyout was the best option

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7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Some good games sometimes but when was this a hyped great series? It's been between 2 ranked teams something like 4 times out of 120+ meetings. 

I think its because for something like the last 40 straight years ASU has won the hottest co-eds per capita at the school... or at least thats what all the porn sites based in Scottsdale tell me.

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What is better than to be a third rate Div 1 football corch?

Get hired for at least a million and up per year...and if you get lucky and get contracts from schools like A&M and Arizona, then you even can really suck at your job, get fired, and still get owed multi-million dollars just to walk away. 

A&M gave him $10 million and Arizona will now give him $7.5 million to not work for them. Fuckin amazing!

How many bottles of top shelf booze can Stumblin buy with that much money? He doesn't have to work another day, unless of course he can sucker yet another school into giving him a big money contract in which he can flunk!

Just pisses me off that A&M kept him so many years. Oh well.  Water under the bridge and all...

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honestly, i laughed at Arizona St for hiring Herm Edwards; I thought for sure Stumblin will do well in the PAC and especially in Arizona going up against ol' Herm. Herm Edwards' first few press events made him seem pretty out of touch with the college game. But dang he proved me wrong, for sure.  Still not good enough for the upper echelon of that conference, but heck,  he outlasted the cool corch Stumblin!

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1 hour ago, PHLaggie said:

What is better than to be a third rate Div 1 football corch?

Get hired for at least a million and up per year...and if you get lucky and get contracts from schools like A&M and Arizona, then you even can really suck at your job, get fired, and still get owed multi-million dollars just to walk away. 

A&M gave him $10 million and Arizona will now give him $7.5 million to not work for them. Fuckin amazing!

How many bottles of top shelf booze can Stumblin buy with that much money? He doesn't have to work another day, unless of course he can sucker yet another school into giving him a big money contract in which he can flunk!

Just pisses me off that A&M kept him so many years. Oh well.  Water under the bridge and all...

And now he can go join some SEC staff as an analyst for $100,000 to look at game tape 20 hours a week over a 14-week season. 

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