China Sucks

[Neonmoon 38,129]

39 minutes ago, Zeus said:

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/chinas-digital-yuan-may-aid-russia-bypass-swift-ban-but-will-it

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-pledges-peaceful-growth-taiwan-ties-opposes-foreign-interference-2022-03-05/

 

Use your words

[Zeus 6,021]

6 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Use your words

Read and use your mind

[Neonmoon 38,129]

China is supporting Russia. No shit.
 

How is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine a distraction from China?

Edited March 6, 2022 by Neonmoon

[Biff Tannen 45,677]

3 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

China is supporting Russia. No shit.
 

How is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine a distraction for Russia?

Because the puppy...was a dog.  But the industry, my friends.  THAT was a revolution.

[Zeus 6,021]

On 3/5/2022 at 6:36 PM, Neonmoon said:

China is supporting Russia. No shit.
 

How is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine a distraction from China?

Taiwan can be taken under the radar if every one is focused on Russia.

 

COVID crazies in China ring around the rosey

 

 

[Horn Dog 9,820]

China isn’t taking Taiwan by force after witnessing the complete Russian shit show unless the world completely backs off Russia, which it won’t.  But if they try, they will also be meet with crushing sanctions and complete isolation from the Western World.  This would solve the problem of a rising China and its fascist  influence real quick.

[Neonmoon 38,129]

10 hours ago, Zeus said:

Taiwan can be taken under the radar if every one is focused on Russia.

COVID crazies in China ring around the rosey

That could happen. A lot of things could happen. North Korea could invade South Korea. Iran could attack Israel. 

Are you arguing that Russia is not as big of a problem as China right now?

[Huckleberry 32,858]

Some people project their inability to pay attention to multiple things at the same time onto the world at large. Hope this helps explain some recent posts on this thread. 

[pacman 7,355]

This seems to be a mistake, but I guess we will have to see how the larger initiative shakes out.

Justice Department ends Trump-era China Initiative following bias concerns - CNNPolitics

 

DoJ announces new strategy for countering nation-state threats - The Record by Recorded Future

[Zeus 6,021]

 

 

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21,194]

Fuck off, China. 

[Neonmoon 38,129]

51 minutes ago, Zeus said:

 

 

 

Please stop posting Russian/Chinese propaganda. 

[B00M 6,415]

On 3/7/2022 at 7:32 AM, Horn Dog said:

China isn’t taking Taiwan by force after witnessing the complete Russian shit show unless the world completely backs off Russia, which it won’t.  But if they try, they will also be meet with crushing sanctions and complete isolation from the Western World.  This would solve the problem of a rising China and its fascist  influence real quick.

I don't know that Western sanctions would be as effective against China, but I do know they can't secretly prepare to invade Taiwan. We are not so fucking distracted by Russia's bullshit that we wouldn't notice a military buildup large enough to invade Taiwan. It will be interesting to see how willing China is to support Russia economically moving forward as they suddenly hold huge leverage over putin. 

[Zeus 6,021]

11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Please stop posting Russian/Chinese propaganda. 

Yeah it's why I'm posting in a thread called China sucks, they suck. 

It's good to know what shit they are spewing though. 

6 minutes ago, B00M said:

I don't know that Western sanctions would be as effective against China, but I do know they can't secretly prepare to invade Taiwan. We are not so fucking distracted by Russia's bullshit that we wouldn't notice a military buildup large enough to invade Taiwan. It will be interesting to see how willing China is to support Russia economically moving forward as they suddenly hold huge leverage over putin. 

Sanctions? lol half the US politicians are paid off by the Chinese they aren't going to do shit.

https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnells-wife-elaine-chao-abused-office-help-family-firm-china-business-watchdog-found-1573653

[Zeus 6,021]

https://www.boldbusiness.com/society/new-art-war-china/

Pretty interesting read from a couple years ago. Exactly as it's happening now, an "undeclared" war.

So interesting how "lock down" used to be a prison term only and after China adopted it against it's own people the West started doing it too.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/chinese-technology-manufacturing-hub-on-lockdown-amid-rising-covid-cases-135322181875

https://abcnews.go.com/International/china-orders-51-million-lockdown-covid-surges/story?id=83431247

No more manufacturing chips for the US. They just steal all the intellectual property and sell to other dictatorships like Russia

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/deep-concerns-about-chinas-alignment-with-russia-says-us-official-326028-2022-03-15

 

[immamac 42,842]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

https://www.boldbusiness.com/society/new-art-war-china/

Pretty interesting read from a couple years ago. Exactly as it's happening now, an "undeclared" war.

So interesting how "lock down" used to be a prison term only and after China adopted it against it's own people the West started doing it too.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/chinese-technology-manufacturing-hub-on-lockdown-amid-rising-covid-cases-135322181875

https://abcnews.go.com/International/china-orders-51-million-lockdown-covid-surges/story?id=83431247

No more manufacturing chips for the US. They just steal all the intellectual property and sell to other dictatorships like Russia

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/deep-concerns-about-chinas-alignment-with-russia-says-us-official-326028-2022-03-15

 

That’s not how any of this works lol. 

[Zeus 6,021]

15 hours ago, immamac said:

That’s not how any of this works lol. 

Huh

Saudi Arabia sucks too, not selling us oil with the dollar anymore 😢

[immamac 42,842]

What? They are doing that for Chinese oil. Are you fucking illiterate? 

[F250 28,768]

Saudi Arabia accepting yuan instead of dollars for oil is a big threat to the petro-dollar.

This could result in MBS getting got.

 

[Zeus 6,021]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

What? They are doing that for Chinese oil. Are you fucking illiterate? 

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/13/22975246/ford-ship-sell-incomplete-vehicles-missing-chips

It's ok stupid fucking rear air conditioning controls suck anyway. 

China is shutting off manufacturing to the West, and supporting all the countries that are enemies with us. You can maybe put some dots together once they take Taiwan?

[immamac 42,842]

36 minutes ago, Zeus said:

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/13/22975246/ford-ship-sell-incomplete-vehicles-missing-chips

It's ok stupid fucking rear air conditioning controls suck anyway. 

China is shutting off manufacturing to the West, and supporting all the countries that are enemies with us. You can maybe put some dots together once they take Taiwan?

Bro Ford literally cancelled their fab orders then when they reordered they got put in the back of the line because that's how fab works. You legit keep posting stupid shit. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2,652]

5 hours ago, immamac said:

What? They are doing that for Chinese oil. Are you fucking illiterate? 

that’s a huge deal. the petrodollar creates a huge amount of soft power for the US. 

if true, i hope we 100% back out of our pledge to defend the saudis 

[workswithseed 2,103]

13 hours ago, ONE YARD said:

that’s a huge deal. the petrodollar creates a huge amount of soft power for the US. 

if true, i hope we 100% back out of our pledge to defend the saudis 

I mean we're working with Russia to make a deal with Iran... Saudis seem pissed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/russia-says-it-has-written-guarantees-iran-nuclear-deal-2022-03-15/

[Horn Dog 9,820]

I am not an economist so take it easy if this is a dumb question, but what the fuck it the big deal with SA taking yuan for payment for Chinese oil sales?   My understanding is the yuan is pegged to the dollar anyway and we have being trying to get the Chinese to stop pegging their currency to the dollar for a while since this artificially devalues their currency and makes their good cheaper to export.   A stronger yuan will make Chinese products more expensive and help with the massive US trade deficit that we have been trying to tackle for decades. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,869]

4 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

I am not an economist so take it easy if this is a dumb question, but what the fuck it the big deal with SA taking yuan for payment for Chinese oil sales?   My understanding is the yuan is pegged to the dollar anyway and we have being trying to get the Chinese to stop pegging their currency to the dollar for a while since this artificially devalues their currency and makes their good cheaper to export.   A stronger yuan will make Chinese products more expensive and help with the massive US trade deficit that we have been trying to tackle for decades. 

but you see, not nearly enough libruhls are being pwned

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,395]

Awesome.
 

 

 

[SydneyCarton 48,081]

53 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Awesome.
 

 

 

I love the fight and triumph of the human spirit, but I feel sorry for the short term consequences for these unfortunate souls. Internment camps await. 

[gsoda3 3,254]

i hope they enjoy being disappeared.

[George Clooney 378]

Anyone interested in better understanding Xi Jinping Thought/Socialism with Chinese Characteristics ought to read Jiang Shigong. I believe China is destined to fracture in our lifetimes, and it's important to read the words of some of their thought leaders to sense their inner fear.

[SydneyCarton 48,081]

Just now, George Clooney said:

Anyone interested in better understanding Xi Jinping Thought/Socialism with Chinese Characteristics ought to read Jiang Shigong. I believe China is destined to fracture in our lifetimes, and it's important to read the words of some of their thought leaders to sense their inner fear.

Or, uh, you could give me some cliff's notes about it fracturing in our lifetime. Because that seems...culturally unlikely to this lay person. But I'd love to learn more without out putting in the actual work, because, you know, 4 year old. 

[F250 28,768]

9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Or, uh, you could give me some cliff's notes about it fracturing in our lifetime. Because that seems...culturally unlikely to this lay person. But I'd love to learn more without out putting in the actual work, because, you know, 4 year old. 

Chinese fascist thought leader. I am curious about how this fracturing will take place too. Xi has been rolling back liberalization in China but it's not like China ever had a bastion of liberalism outside of Hong Kong.

 

[SydneyCarton 48,081]

3 minutes ago, F250 said:

Chinese fascist thought leader. I am curious about how this fracturing will take place too. Xi has been rolling back liberalization in China but it's not like China ever had a bastion of liberalism outside of Hong Kong.

 

And the British aren't rolling back around and claiming ownership of that or any other aspect for a hundred years or two any time soon. 

[UDontKnow 10,444]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

And the British aren't rolling back around and claiming ownership of that or any other aspect for a hundred years or two any time soon. 

That's a good thing though. European colonialism laid the foundation for the proceeding shitshow especially in China.

[George Clooney 378]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Or, uh, you could give me some cliff's notes about it fracturing in our lifetime. Because that seems...culturally unlikely to this lay person. But I'd love to learn more without out putting in the actual work, because, you know, 4 year old. 

Peter Zeihan goes into more depth on their possible fracture due to social strife from a widely imbalanced M:F gender ratio (I believe it's 118:100 in their <40 demographic). The Chinese are militantly loyal to local authority but generally distrustful of federal authority, and they've been this way for centuries. Because of this, their current unified run is something of a miracle. They're far more socially complex and pro-democratic in private than western media would ever portray.

Jiang Shigong is one of their primary thought leaders who knows this and thus is trying to bolster the state through codifying moral transformation into CCP ideals. He is an avid scholar of people such as Deleuze, Nietzsche, Foucault, Marx, and Carl Schmitt (gulp). He knows that the state's current authority is only as strong as its constant economic improvement, so he wants China to continue to reject harmful outside forces. Chinese citizens expect to be better off than their parents, and this has been easy in recent times due to Mao's abhorrent economic policies followed by Deng Xiaoping's successful reforms. Funnily enough, he generally dislikes Deng because he believes China was becoming too submissive to the West under his influence.

[George Clooney 378]

10 minutes ago, F250 said:

Chinese fascist thought leader. I am curious about how this fracturing will take place too. Xi has been rolling back liberalization in China but it's not like China ever had a bastion of liberalism outside of Hong Kong.

 

Xi is rolling back liberalization because he knows that'll doom the CCP's long term legitimacy. Just let the demographic chaos play out and watch it crumble. It won't happen any time soon, but just be patient.

[George Clooney 378]

9 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

That's a good thing though. European colonialism laid the foundation for the proceeding shitshow especially in China.

Yes, China indeed views its rise and hopeful global hegemony as payback for the century of humiliation. Thankfully for us, they simply were never meant to be true leaders.

[George Clooney 378]

Old article, but I’d love to see the reactions of trad Catholics after reading this.

https://catholicherald.co.uk/china-is-the-best-implementer-of-catholic-social-doctrine-says-vatican-bishop/
 

[F250 28,768]

8 minutes ago, George Clooney said:

Old article, but I’d love to see the reactions of trad Catholics after reading this.

https://catholicherald.co.uk/china-is-the-best-implementer-of-catholic-social-doctrine-says-vatican-bishop/
 

Isn't that the encyclical that everyone except Americans appreciated? I am not Catholic but those comments are not unusual considering they were made in 2018.

 

[George Clooney 378]

3 minutes ago, F250 said:

Isn't that the encyclical that everyone except Americans appreciated? I am not Catholic but those comments are not unusual considering they were made in 2018.

 

Yes. I should have clarified that I meant American Catholics. It’s important for everyone to understand that it’s largely just liberal Western democracies who are opposed to China. I think many already understand this and are disappointed by it, but I still see lots of hubris from Western journalists/the general public who can’t believe that non-Western nations don’t really care about human rights abuses in China.

[F250 28,768]

36 minutes ago, George Clooney said:

. It’s important for everyone to understand that it’s largely just liberal Western democracies who are opposed to China. I think many already understand this and are disappointed by it, but I still see lots of hubris from Western journalists/the general public who can’t believe that non-Western nations don’t really care about human rights abuses in China.

I'm not sure that most people understand that it's just western liberal democracies that dislike China. I'm pretty sure that most people don't even understand that there is an alliance of western liberal democracies that are in opposition to China, Russia and other authoritarian countries.

A good portion of Americans don't even understand the importance of the U.S. alliance with Europe.

[George Clooney 378]

Sure, but that’s true of the majority of topics discussed at any given moment. Again, I should have added “who commentate on these issues” after general public.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

Does this affect the Chinese timeline regarding Taiwan? 
 

I think they’re closer to moving than most would think. They greenlit the Ukraine invasion and had to be aware of the turmoil that would result.

 

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by Immaculate Vibes

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,869]

it's wild how you always take the side of the oppressor. makes your motives seem suspect. are they?

[UDontKnow 10,444]

45 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

Does this affect the Chinese timeline regarding Taiwan? 
 

I think they’re closer to moving than most would think. They greenlit the Ukraine invasion and had to be aware of the turmoil that would result.

 

 

I don't know that China greenlit the Ukraine invasion as opposed to it being provided a heads up by Putin. Also, the fact that they have appeared reticent and not overtly supporting Russia in the UN tells you enough about where they stand. Everyone foolishly believed that Ukraine would be roadkill in less than two weeks and clearly that hasn't happened.

 

I am happy to eat my words, but China has enough difficulty domestically for any Taiwan invasion to take place for the next few years. The new wave of COVID is hitting them hard and they have shitty vaccines in addition to their supply chains being disrupted. Their populace is fed up with the CCCP's draconian measures and if the Red Army foolishly leaves the mainland, there will be revolution. China's navy is nowhere sophisticated enough to pull off an invasion AND subsequently maintain an occupation.

 

You're also forgetting the presence of the Quad (which meets next week by the way) consisting of the US, Japan, India, and Australia. While it remains to be seen how this new Aussie administration (that's historically been more liberal with China) will behave, you can bet on the US, Japan, and India doing whatever necessary to thwart and derail China. Keep in mind that Taiwan is crucial for Indo-Pacific shipping lanes that all three of those countries highly value.  Additionally, North Korea might become another thorn in their side as it appears that COVID is finally hitting them hard and Russia can't even help themselves.

 

Another point is the health of Xi Jinping (https://www.newsweek.com/china-xi-jinping-health-aneurysm-rumors-zero-covid-1707184), Is he, like Putin, also trying to have a last hurrah and cement his legacy as the next best thing for Red China since Mao? How long will he last and what type of situation will his successor inherit?

 

To sum it all up, China is still a paper dragon that can only achieve influence through "debt trap" diplomacy. Since we have an actual President that has some semblance of foreign policy experience, autocratic nations are being stifled and will have to pause to consider further pursuing their devious imperialistic campaigns. 

Edited May 23, 2022 by UDontKnow

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

47 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

it's wild how you always take the side of the oppressor. makes your motives seem suspect. are they?

It’s wild that you infer that from me sharing a China update. I am not on the side of China. They are our real adversary for the near to medium term. 

[elfenix 34,234]

guess this goes here

 

 

[pacman 7,355]

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2022/09/15/the-weaponization-of-capital-chinas-private-equity-venture-capital/

 

[Parliament 14,257]

Apple has limited the use of the AirDrop wireless file sharing function on devices in China, just weeks after reports that some protesters had used the popular feature to spread messages critical of the Chinese government.

Users of iPhones in mainland China who updated their iOS software this week can send or receive files from non-contacts for only up to 10 minutes after manually selecting a new “Everyone for 10 minutes” option, according to tests performed by CNN’s Beijing bureau.

Users not in China face no such restriction and are able to receive files wirelessly from anyone, including people who are not contacts.

The change does not appear to affect iPhones in use in China that were purchased outside the country, according to the CNN team. Apple (AAPL) told CNN Business the new feature will be expanded globally in the coming year.

The update comes just weeks after reports in international media, including The New York Times and Vice World News, that some residents in China were using AirDrop, which can be used only between Apple devices, to spread leaflets and images echoing slogans used in a rare protest against Chinese leader Xi Jinping on October 13.

On that day, shortly before Xi secured a precedent-breaking third term, two banners were hung on an overpass 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/business/china-apple-airdrop-function-restricted-hnk-intl

[Post Oak 20,210]

China currently in the finding out stage and not enjoying it.

https://www.politico.eu/article/china-diplomacy-liu-he-europe-beijing-davos-world-economic-forum-xi-jinping/

China turns on the charm

President Xi Jinping seeks break from foreign friction as he wrestles with COVID and a faltering economy

 

Beijing wants to be friends again.

Chinese diplomats are fanning out with a new softer message for international partners and adversaries alike. Gone is the aggressive “wolf warrior” rhetoric. In its place, a warmer tone and a promise of economic cooperation.

 

[YChang 3,443]

Winnie the Pooh can go fuck himself