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So that was crazy. Also can't feel bad considering all points count equally at the end of the season and if this fuckery hadn't happened then Bottas's Hungary fuckery would have decided the championship. 

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IDK jack shit about F-1.  but a couple of my gearhead buddies on FB are chirping back and forth about what did and didn't happen, just like this thread this morning.  hell, one of my cousins who I thought had zero connection with racing has her outrage going pretty strong about it.  I was like, "Damn.  I have no idea what she's talking about, but I love the passion."

Interesting shit, with questionable tactics.  I might be more inclined to watch next season.

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:25 PM, ATLLonghorn said:

Mercedes is going to litigate the shit out of this. It isn't going to lead to anything, but it's going to happen.

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If this had been the 3rd race of the season, I'd bet they'd have a decent chance to overturn the result.

But, yeah, not going to unring that bell now that a new champion has already been declared.

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:02 PM, ATLLonghorn said:
What a farce. I can't believe a bureaucrat would just make up an arbitrary decision on a whim to decide a championship. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to watch college football.

  On 12/12/2021 at 3:06 PM, G650 said:
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At least quote your sources.
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Fuck these cars. The can DIAF. Just terrible for race day. 
 

Checo vs Hamilton and the previous battle between Alonzo and Hamilton (when Ocon won) were the two best racing moments of the the season for me. The back and forth today was as intense as it gets. Sad we don’t get that every weekend. Hopefully that will change. 
 

Helmet Cam is incredible. 
 

First and last lap bullshittery confirmed. Don’t hate the result. 
 

Bad luck for Lando. Should have been able to catch Charles in points. 
 

Fun season. Really hope the changes allow the cars to race on Sundays and add some variety. 
 

Embrace the midfield. Score all the way to P15. Let them have their own points battle that is easy for the fans to follow. 

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:03 PM, Goofyboy said:

In reality - if Merc had made some better decisions earlier in the year, it would not have come down to this.

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Or in the race. They had two chances to pit for fresher tires and elected to stay out when Hamilton was clearly the faster car when on equal footing. 

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:40 PM, G650 said:

And of course Lewis graciously congratulates Max on the win and then Max refuses to acknowledge him on the podium. The beat goes on.

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Lol. That's just a flat lie.

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:45 PM, PittsburghTiger said:
Max has been called to Race Control for the overtaking under the safety car

He was definitely inching up there. I noticed that. Lewis is the safety car at that point. I don’t think anything will or should come of it but I’m not ruling out the Stewards making one last twist.
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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:49 PM, dieucla98 said:

$5k fine or some stupid shit is all that will come of it. 

Manufactured drama, all of it. Stupid.

 

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Shouldn't be that way. If Michael Masi doesn't ignore FIA regulations to make up rules on the fly then Lewis is the race winner. At the very least he has no business being involved in the sport going forward. 

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:40 PM, G650 said:

And of course Lewis graciously congratulates Max on the win and then Max refuses to acknowledge him on the podium. The beat goes on.

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:26 PM, slorch said:
IDK jack shit about F-1.  but a couple of my gearhead buddies on FB are chirping back and forth about what did and didn't happen, just like this thread this morning.  hell, one of my cousins who I thought had zero connection with racing has her outrage going pretty strong about it.  I was like, "Damn.  I have no idea what she's talking about, but I love the passion."
Interesting shit, with questionable tactics.  I might be more inclined to watch next season.

You should watch the Netflix series.
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Another possibility, is that apparently once cars are allowed to unlap, the SC is supposed to come in on the FOLLOWING lap. I admit I have not double checked that rule, though.

If so, that obviously was also not followed.

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:53 PM, G650 said:

Dude I watched the whole sequence.

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Then you saw them bump the bottles and acknowledge each other, after they acknowledged each other and talk before the post-race interviews? I don't understand. 

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:58 PM, Anton Chigurh said:

Another possibility, is that apparently once cars are allowed to unlap, the SC is supposed to come in on the FOLLOWING lap. I admit I have not double checked that rule, though.

If so, that obviously was also not followed.

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Posted it a bit earlier, it's absolutely not a grey area in the regulations. 

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  On 12/12/2021 at 4:00 PM, FirstTimeCaller said:
Then you saw them bump the bottles and acknowledge each other, after they acknowledged each other and talk before the post-race interviews? I don't understand. 

Yeah Max definitely walked over to toast Lewis on the podium. And gave him credit in his post race interview.
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  On 12/12/2021 at 4:00 PM, FirstTimeCaller said:

Then you saw them bump the bottles and acknowledge each other, after they acknowledged each other and talk before the post-race interviews? I don't understand. 

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Horner shakes his hand and Max turns his back. At any rate, it's not a big point that I am trying to debate endlessly, it was a throwaway observation that made me lol at how the personalities never change.

 

Plus I have way more historical antipathy for Horner and Red Bull anyway.

 

 

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:58 PM, Anton Chigurh said:
Another possibility, is that apparently once cars are allowed to unlap, the SC is supposed to come in on the FOLLOWING lap. I admit I have not double checked that rule, though.

If so, that obviously was also not followed.

Here is the regulation:

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  On 12/12/2021 at 3:37 PM, ChickenSandwich said:

Checo vs Hamilton and the previous battle between Alonzo and Hamilton (when Ocon won) were the two best racing moments of the the season for me. The back and forth today was as intense as it gets. Sad we don’t get that every weekend. Hopefully that will change.

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Not only that, it proved you can have a drawn-out, on-the-edge battle between 2 cars switching between inside and and outside lanes....without flagrant divebombs... AND it was between a red bull and mercedes no less.

Anyway, in the end the results will stand.  The money is in the WCC which Mercedes so any jostling now is just ego and reputational battle.

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Based on the regulations, the race should have finished under yellow. Mercedes has a case, as do any other teams that were caught out by not having a proper line up and restart.

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  On 12/12/2021 at 4:07 PM, G650 said:

Horner shakes his hand and Max turns his back. At any rate, it's not a big point that I am trying to debate endlessly, it was a throwaway observation that made me lol at how the personalities never change.

 

Plus I have way more historical antipathy for Horner and Red Bull anyway.

 

 

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I'm not trying to dunk on you man, but if the video you posted is "refusing to acknowledge" then your Max hatred has blinded you. And just 10 minutes earlier was this:

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And after the podium, he was interviewed and praised Hamilton. 

Sorry your guy didn't win, but you're just throwing out lies. Just admit you were mistaken. It happens.

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