Clemson vs Notre Dame in A Conference Clash

[TwiceHorn 31240]

7 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

no way

And Rattler has multiple varieties of bad.

[LTbear 4157]

Rattler in a landslide

[Gut Wagon 8052]

19 minutes ago, Underdog said:

 

He heard us. 

I wouldn't doubt that the booth's conversation about removing Lawrence was coordinated with word from the bench. Heck of a coincidence if not. The timing was just too seamless.  

[Surly Bevo 24692]

Just now, LTbear said:

Rattler in a landslide

He seems like he sucks

[ClubWhatever 12086]

NDs resume is still better than AMs

[Dilligas 664]

16 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

no way

[Jive Turkey 12567]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

NDs resume is still better than AMs

ND tv ratings against Bama will also be better than A&M v. Bama (part 2).

[Wishbone 4731]

2 minutes ago, Dilligas said:

Katfid?

[Sbbruin 21704]

NDs resume is still better than AMs

Yes it is. But SEC.

[Surly Bevo 24692]

I did notice ArCee is on the committee.....one vote for aggy

[Longboard Horn 40102]

3 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

ND tv ratings against Bama will also be better than A&M v. Bama (part 2).

 Bama would beat that ass. Aggy don’t want no smoke!

[Gut Wagon 8052]

2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I did notice ArCee is on the committee.....one vote for aggy

What on earth would he know about post-season worthiness? 

[Tex-19 2869]

20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

This. Aggy's argument is "no Trevor in the first game" but they conveniently ignore the fact that ND's resume is comparable even if you completely ignore that game (which you can't). Plus his backup threw for 400+ yards anyway.

It was interesting that Kirk and Fowler weren't even really debating if ND would make it. They had OSU more on the bubble (which is kind of dumb)

[clapclapclap 9000]

20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by clapclapclap
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[Tex-19 2869]

Also - just wait for Aggy to start busting out the "Alabama was at the beginning of the year and we've gotten better" excuse while conveniently ignoring that Florida was the very next week

[ztejas 43262]

32 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

he's really good when he out talents the other team

That's more than you can say about Herman.

[Scholz 11933]

44 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Well, if Kirk and Chris are right, aggy gonna get fucked. 

That will please me greatly because it would be hilariously funny.

Me too but I really wanted the #4 team to be Cinci 

[cabowabo 4452]

Really can't wait to see Clemson and ND play again on Jan 1. Lol.

[Baconboy 135]

3 minutes ago, Scholz said:

Me too but I really wanted the #4 team to be Cinci 

Me too. In this year of all years, why not?

[Tex-19 2869]

So Brian Kelly's post-game campaigning was "we have 2 top 15 wins, including one over Clemson, and we've played 11 games"

Jimbos was basically "1 loss secsec"

Side note but if they knock ND out, it's a pretty big indictment on CCG's. Basically punish the ACC for having it while rewarding Aggy for missing theirs

[Tex-19 2869]

4 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

Really can't wait to see Clemson and ND play again on Jan 1. Lol.

It'd be Bama-ND and Clemson-OSU

[Longboard Horn 40102]

[Vic Mackey 46927]

7 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

So Brian Kelly's post-game campaigning was "we have 2 top 15 wins, including one over Clemson, and we've played 11 games"

Jimbos was basically "1 loss secsec"

Side note but if they knock ND out, it's a pretty big indictment on CCG's. Basically punish the ACC for having it while rewarding Aggy for missing theirs

I was waiting all week for ND to come down with the covid and just cancel the game and let the committee sort it out. We all knew what was coming today. Clemson was going to roll with Lawrence and their defensive players back. This was their best chance. It was a big spread for a 2 vs 3 game because Clemson is light years ahead of ND in terms of talent and coaching. They proved it a few years ago and did it again today.

The only team who really benefits this weekend from these games is Ohio St. They desperately needed another win and win their conference. ND, Clemson, Bama could all have their games cancelled and they would all be in.

I just hate the committee punishing teams for going to this game and losing and rewarding teams who did not even win their division and did not even put themselves at risk. Bama benefited from this twice in 2011 and 2017.

I do not want to see Clemson buttfuck ND again in a few weeks but I think their resume is better than aggy. Eye test or paper, ND had a better season. It's just ND lost today and it is fresh and people forget aggy got dismantled just like ND did when they played Bama.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Vic Mackey

[Bevo14 8272]

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

I was waiting all week for ND to come down with the covid and just cancel the game and let the committee sort it out. We all knew what was coming today. Clemson was going to roll with Lawrence and their defensive players back.

The only team who really benefits this weekend from these games is Ohio St. They desperately needed another win and win their conference. ND, Clemson, Bama could all have their games cancelled and they would all be in.

I just hate the committee punishing teams for going to this game and losing and rewarding teams who did not even win their division and did not even put themselves at risk. Bama benefited from this twice in 2011 and 2017.

I do not want to see Clemson buttfuck ND again in a few weeks but I think their resume is better than aggy. Eye test or paper, ND had a better season. It's just ND lost today and it is fresh and people forget aggy got dismantled just like ND did when they played Bama.

Yeah the fact that ND has a win over Clemson makes it interesting. I think they could still make it in over aggy because of that and being a bigger name.

[mdmost 42827]

So what happens if Bama just hammers the shit out of Florida? Does that affect the thought that aggy's win is more worthy?

[Tex-19 2869]

2 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Yeah the fact that ND has a win over Clemson makes it interesting. I think they could still make it in over aggy because of that and being a bigger name.

ND also has a win over top 15 UNC which more or less cancels out the Florida win. Assuming the losses cancel out, ND's win over Clemson takes it. 

Then there are the unofficial considerations - do we want a Bama-Aggy blowout rematch in round 1? No. Do we want to reward a team for not making their CCG while punishing another? No.

In short, I think ND gets in. Herbie and Fowler made it sound like they didn't think it's really in question.

[Scholz 11933]

aggy only beat 1 ranked team all year which is about to take their 3rd loss (including 1 to dogshit LSU). Per usual they didn’t beat anyone of note and per usual they brag about who they lost to.

[notre dame joe 172]

1 hour ago, Horn80 said:

Since aggy didn’t win conference, I think they are out no matter what and probably also with selection’s committee because LSU beating Gator should give ND the edge over aggy since Gator will have three losses if Bama wins.  If Gator should pull the upset tonight, then it will be chaos.

Reason #8 Conferences are dumb is that the 'championship game' is often not even the 5th most interesting game of the season.  Seeing Bama crush Missouri or OU crush  . . . Misssouri doesn't tell us who was best in show. 

36 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

So Brian Kelly's post-game campaigning was "we have 2 top 15 wins, including one over Clemson, and we've played 11 games"

Jimbos was basically "1 loss secsec"

Side note but if they knock ND out, it's a pretty big indictment on CCG's. Basically punish the ACC for having it while rewarding Aggy for missing theirs

The PC has consistently picked the 11-1 school with the best helmet.  And that team is usually better than than the G5 or hot 2-loss team.

[DCA_HORN 725]

What on earth would he know about post-season worthiness? 

He knows as well as anyone that aggy is not as good as nd in the post season.

[wildturkey8 24]

Ohio State doesn't belong in the playoff.  They have looked average in a mediocre Big 10.

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by wildturkey8

[mdmost 42827]

They've won games by 35, 13, 22, 7, 40, and 12. That's a 21.5 point margin of victory. They're in. 

Edited December 20, 2020 by mdmost

[Funk Doctor Spock 11918]

Trevor Lawrence might be the most sure thing since Peyton Manning. He's just that good. He really doesn't have many weakness, except maybe speed when he runs, but he still gets it done on the ground anyway. He should convincingly win the Heisman, and I usually don't give a shit about that award. 

[pch 1259]

10 hours ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Trevor Lawrence might be the most sure thing since Peyton Manning. He's just that good. He really doesn't have many weakness, except maybe speed when he runs, but he still gets it done on the ground anyway. He should convincingly win the Heisman, and I usually don't give a shit about that award. 

Lawrence has serious competition for the Heisman but I agree with you.  He is a more than adequate rushing qb and his decision making/ability to make all throws define him as what I consider the best player in CFB this year.  ND had no answer for his ability to avoid the rush, move the chains, and hit the open receiver consistently. Big time player whose record in big games speaks for itself. Who knows what the voters are going to do here-after the decision to award the 2005 trophy to Reggie over Vince the significance factor went down the shitter for me. Loved it when Vince said no thanks in 2010 when offered the vacated 2005 award.

[phdhorn 6224]

11 hours ago, wildturkey8 said:

Ohio State doesn't belong in the playoff.  They have looked average in a mediocre Big 10.

 

You're absolutely, unequivocally correct.  But they're an automatic in because college football has absolute shit for integrity.  There is no way, none, that they're one of the 4 best teams this year.  None.  Nevertheless, all this playoff garbage is now is a money contest.  Well, make it rain, bitches!

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

2 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

You're absolutely, unequivocally correct.  But they're an automatic in because college football has absolute shit for integrity.  There is no way, none, that they're one of the 4 best teams this year.  None.  Nevertheless, all this playoff garbage is now is a money contest.  Well, make it rain, bitches!

Now? That was known from the very first year it was put together. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 11918]

6 hours ago, pch said:

Lawrence has serious competition for the Heisman but I agree with you.  He is a more than adequate rushing qb and his decision making/ability to make all throws define him as what I consider the best player in CFB this year.  ND had no answer for his ability to avoid the rush, move the chains, and hit the open receiver consistently. Big time player whose record in big games speaks for itself. Who knows what the voters are going to do here-after the decision to award the 2005 trophy to Reggie over Vince the significance factor went down the shitter for me. Loved it when Vince said no thanks in 2010 when offered the vacated 2005 award.

Well said. I do agree he has some serious competition in Devonta Smith, tho. I don't believe Mac Jones (lol) or Najee Harris is going to be that close. Smith? Sure. He's a superstar in the making.