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48 minutes ago, General Specific said:


Always root against aggy, OU, Miami and ND. ALWAYS! Even if playing a COVID spreading Satan team. And if any two of those teams play each other, root for meteor strike, tornado or sink holes!

Hell, I root for idle against them as well!

Fuck them all, let God sort them out!

A man after mine own heart. Preach, brother!

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Texaggers are stroking their little micropeens over this column in the prestigious <checks notes> papercitymag.com:

https://www.papercitymag.com/culture/sporting-life/texas-am-robbed-playoff-snub-hurts-college-football-fans-notre-dame/

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CULTURE / SPORTING LIFE

Robbing Texas A&M of Playoff Berth Looks Worse and Worse the Closer It’s Examined — College Football Fans Lose Big Too

Mockery of a Selection Committee Wronged Much More Than Just Jimbo Fisher, the Aggies and Cincinnati

BY CHRIS BALDWIN // 12.20.20
 
 
 
Texas A&M University’s football program is not the only entity robbed by the college football selection committee’s decision to exclude one of the three best teams in the country from the playoffs. College football fans — and the game itself — will also needlessly suffer.s A&M University’s football program is not the only entity robbed by the college football selection committee’s decision to exclude one of the three best teams in the country from the playoffs. College football fans — and the game itself — will also needlessly suffer.

For things have been set up for another beyond predictable four team playoff that will excite no one outside of Alabama and South Carolina. Notre Dame. . . who wants to see the power from another time blown out again in one of college football’s showcase games?

The Fighting Irish already played what should have been a defacto playoff game Saturday. And they were thoroughly dominated by Clemson, which should have cast plenty of doubt on Notre Dame’s signature win — an overtime escape against a Clemson team playing without its best player. Notre Dame already should have been eliminated.

 

Instead, sports fans are subjected to seeing Brian Kelly’s overmatched team try to prove it belongs against No. 1 Alabama.

How you’re playing down the stretch of the season should mean something if the resumes are as close as Texas A&M and Notre Dame’s. And there is no doubt that Jimbo Fisher’s Texas A&M squad is a much more fearsome opponent than Notre Dame at this point in the season.

The Aggies have won seven straight games since getting spanked by Alabama in their second game of this slow-starting COVID-19 season. In its last four games, Texas A&M has outscored its opponents (all SEC schools) by a combined 133-43 margin. Fisher’s team is giving up 10.7 points per game since November 1.

 

No team in the country has put together a better closing kick, including Alabama. In fact, the Crimson Tide were pushed Saturday by same Florida team that is not supposed to be a good enough win for A&M. With quarterback Kellen Mond, the running game and the A&M defense playing at a high level, the Aggies could have given Alabama a very different game in a playoff contest that would have intrigued.

Instead, the selection committee — which really did not select anything but the status quo — has everyone yawning towards yet another Clemson-Alabama national championship game.

It’s as if the NFL decided that the Baltimore Ravens should still advance in the playoffs despite losing to the Titans last January because their early season wins were more impressive.

“They’ve played similar schedules, coming into this weekend, Notre Dame was undefeated,” playoff committee chairman Gary Barta says in his ESPN rationalization. “(Notre Dame) had beaten the No. 2 team, now, in Clemson, and on the road against the No. 13 team in North Carolina, and Texas A&M’s top win was against a very good Florida team.

“So very similar resumes, but in the end the committee felt that Notre Dame had earned its way there based on the complete analysis of the resume, and it probably came down to have an additional win against a ranked team.”

If that sounds like an excuse to get the TV-beloved Irish into the playoffs, well it is.

Week One Dooms Texas A&M? Really?!!

How you’re playing as the playoffs approach should matter for something. Just like playing nine games, largely against the league with the best talent in the country (the SEC’s NFL Draft record is unassailable) instead of just six games against a sometimes suspect Power 5 league should matter.

But to the selection committee, they clearly did not. For Ohio State and Notre Dame seemingly sailed into the playoffs with little second doubt from the people entrusted with casting doubt. Texas A&M’s resume definitely should have given Barta and company more pause.

Instead, the last Saturday of college football’s beyond strange — and often unsettling — 2020 regular season — gets treated like college basketball’s Power 5 conference tournament championship games. As largely meaningless fluff that impact no one’s postseason seeding.

Texas A&M wisely might be asking why it even bothered to play — and throttle — Tennessee.

Fisher and the Aggie faithful — which may be even more devoted than the Notre Dame faithful, but less East Coast connected — lose out. But so do sports fans everywhere. This Texas A&M team is fun to watch. It’s earned the right to play for college football’s biggest prize.

Instead, it’s the same old staid power programs that always seem to play for the national championship. Picking Cincinnati over Texas A&M would have made more sense than Notre Dame. At least then, you’re rewarding excellence on the field. If it truly is about selecting the four best college football teams in America, Fisher’s squad is probably the third best team in the nation at this point.

Ohio State would rightly be very nervous about playing Kellen Mond and Co. at this point.

Texas AM QB Kellen Mond Texas A&M quarterback Kellen Mond and the Aggies played as well as any team in the country going down the stretch of the season. That makes this playoff snub hurt them even more.

If there is any season in which early season games should be weighed against everything going on around college football at that moment, it’s this one. Instead, the Aggies are kept out of the playoffs because they beat hapless Vanderbilt by only five points in Week One and lost to Alabama in Week Two.

Penalizing Texas A&M for a week one struggle after the weirdest buildup to a season ever and not penalizing Notre Dame for getting blown out in a conference championship game makes no competitive sense.

Cincinnati Wronged

This selection committee did not get much of anything right. 9-0 Cincinnati not getting a New Year’s Six bowl is just as ridiculous as Notre Dame over Texas A&M. This is a dominant Cincinnati team. The Bearcats and the American Athletic Conference both deserve much better. Cincinnati being ranked behind a two loss Oklahoma team and a three loss Florida one is an absolute joke.

The much-maligned computers did a much better job than this.

Sub Texas A&M and Cincinnati in for 6-0 Ohio State and Notre Dame and you have a much fairer, much more compelling (and likely much more competitive) four team playoff. Ohio State gets the benefit of the doubt when it blows out an inferior opponent in the Big Ten title game (see 2019). And then, it gets the same benefit a year later when it struggles against an inferior opponent (Northwestern) in the conference championship game.

The committee always finds a reason to put Ohio State in. Oh… just six games… no problem, you’re Ohio State!

Enough. It’s time to reward other programs outside of this snobbish elite of the elite. The committee essentially has told the world (repeatedly) that if there is any possible way to justify getting Ohio State or Notre Dame into the playoffs, they will do it.

Anti-mask “protestors” storming a Target are more open minded than college football’s selection committee. Something is wrong with that.

Texas A&M got robbed. Cincinnati was mocked, discounted and discarded in the most senseless way possible. But college football fans are the real losers of the whole thing.

 

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On 12/20/2020 at 3:22 PM, nnm said:

In 2014, TCU went into the final week ranked 3 in the CFP rankings, beat ISU 55-3, and dropped to 5. tOSU took their place. 
 

In 2020, aggy went into the final week ranked 5 in the CFO rankings, beat UTenn 34-13, and stayed 5. Either 6-0 tOSU or 10-1 ND took their place. 
 

Pooooooooor aggy

I remember watching them select the playoff teams with my TCU roommate and I kept trying to tell him if it’s close, they will always put a blue blood in over a non blue blood because of the dollar signs. This is no different. Sorry aggy. You don’t have the pull ND does and you never will. Ever. Under any circumstances.

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aggy is the only one that “Champions” the SEC, except the office of the SEC. I’ve lived in SEC “country” (LA) and have driven throughout the entire SEC landscape and the only vehicles with a SEC sticker on a vehicle will be one that also includes multiple aggy stickers. The rest of the SEC teams aren’t shedding a tear for aggy, because it’s always been, if not us, then F-Them!!!

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No one has bought into the SEC being amazing just for the being the SEC other than Aggy:  

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Their good is beating the #7 team in the nation, highest with 3 loses, by 3 points at home.

Their bad is getting curb stomped by the #1 team in the country by 28.

Their ugly is winning 7 more games by an average margin of 13 (high 45, low 5) against teams with a combined winning percentage of 37.5%.  

It just means more.

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1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

Ohhhhh, the logic....

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this is more spectacular than terri hatcher's tits.... and needs to be added to the wall-worthy pantheon of looch-canon:

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"My biggest problem is that none of ESPN's collge football guys will say that.  It's like it angers them that we dare to think we should have been considered.  So they double down and put us in our place."

"If they would have held the narrative that these last spots (3-5) were close.  That we deserve to feel left out.  That we have a legit case.  If they would say that about and ND, then i'd be less of the opinion that the fix was in."

"Why do they have to make it like we were asking to be somewhere we had no right to be?  Like WE'RE acting entitled?  That's what is wrong!"

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So, it is as it's always been.  for aggy it's not about actual success, it's about the perception of others.

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9 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Even though the Hitler thing has been done to death, I thought it was pretty inspired myself. If possible I would rep myself just for the Texags drum of lube / PPP money comment.

I found another meme generator to embed. I had to change some shit around but here goes...

 

Perfect

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15 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Yeah that will show ESPN!!

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I guess the ags haven't yet figured out the conference's new television deal with ABC/ESPN contains this little gem:

"And starting next year, the network can broadcast one nonconference football matchup on ESPN+ with each team."

https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/10/sec-espn-abc-tv-contract-leaving-cbs

 

The new S!E!C! television contract will require fans to purchase ESPN+ subscriptions to watch what is now being broadcast on SECN. Part of that subscription revenue will be directed to the conference to make up for the revenue SECN is not generating. SEC schools will get nothing for T3 rights in 2020 or 2021 due to the fact their T3 deal is a profit sharing agreement, as opposed to the LHN deal which is a licensing agreement (UT still gets paid).

So, whine all you want about ESPN+, my dear ags, but every one of you fuckers is going to have a subscription in the very near future. Let's do some quick math - ABC/ESPN is paying $300 mil/yr, which is roughly $20 mil/school. $15 mil is new money, above what CBS was paying. At $10/mo for a ESPN+ subscription, the breakeven for ABC/ESPN is 125,000 new subscriptions per school. 500,000 current aggy alumni, 70,000 current students.

SECN will be the first conference network to go completely behind the ABC/ESPN paywall. Mark my words.

 

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aggy is the only one that “Champions” the SEC, except the office of the SEC. I’ve lived in SEC “country” (LA) and have driven throughout the entire SEC landscape and the only vehicles with a SEC sticker on a vehicle will be one that also includes multiple aggy stickers. The rest of the SEC teams aren’t shedding a tear for aggy, because it’s always been, if not us, then F-Them!!!

That isn’t my experience when I lived in Tennessee.
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12 hours ago, msucolt45 said:

aggy is the only one that “Champions” the SEC, except the office of the SEC. I’ve lived in SEC “country” (LA) and have driven throughout the entire SEC landscape and the only vehicles with a SEC sticker on a vehicle will be one that also includes multiple aggy stickers. The rest of the SEC teams aren’t shedding a tear for aggy, because it’s always been, if not us, then F-Them!!!

You have obviously never entered into a college football conversation in the Deep South. Believe me, they will bring it up. 

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16 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Ohio State gets the benefit of the doubt when it blows out an inferior opponent in the Big Ten title game (see 2019).

Ummmm... what problem did/does anyone have with Ohio State being in the playoff in 2019? Who on Earth would have left them out of the playoff last year?

And the 2019 Big Ten CG wasn't a blowout. 

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17 hours ago, Hurtlocker said:

No one has bought into the SEC being amazing just for the being the SEC other than Aggy:  

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I fully buy into the SEC is overrated angle, but maybe use a year where the SEC isn't guaranteed to be at .500 before the season even starts to make your point.

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20 minutes ago, Blotto said:

I fully buy into the SEC is overrated angle, but maybe use a year where the SEC isn't guaranteed to be at .500 before the season even starts to make your point.

SEC didn't play any OOC games and their usual 2 cupcakes each. Ya gotta compare head-to-head P5 vs P5 to get a better picture. 2020 was a covid shitshow.

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1 hour ago, SwanderedTalent said:

Ummmm... what problem did/does anyone have with Ohio State being in the playoff in 2019? Who on Earth would have left them out of the playoff last year?

And the 2019 Big Ten CG wasn't a blowout. 

That 2019 reference may have been a typo, since the link was to the 2014 BigTen CG, which was a blowout.  Of course, that 59-point beatdown was over a #14 ranked Wisconsin team that came in with a 10-2 record.  Not very comparable to Aggy's 21-point win over a hapless 3-6 Tennessee.

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1 hour ago, SwanderedTalent said:

Ummmm... what problem did/does anyone have with Ohio State being in the playoff in 2019? Who on Earth would have left them out of the playoff last year?

And the 2019 Big Ten CG wasn't a blowout. 

 

13 minutes ago, Glabhander said:

That 2019 reference may have been a typo, since the link was to the 2014 BigTen CG, which was a blowout.  Of course, that 59-point beatdown was over a #14 ranked Wisconsin team that came in with a 10-2 record.  Not very comparable to Aggy's 21-point win over a hapless 3-6 Tennessee.

Never mind, it wasn't a typo, since the next sentence says, "And then, [OSU] gets the same benefit a year later when it struggles against an inferior opponent (Northwestern) in the conference championship game."  I guess Chris Baldwin is just a doofus who is arguing that a 13-0 BigTen champ got "the benefit of the doubt" in 2019 by being included in the playoff.

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1 hour ago, Glabhander said:

I guess Chris Baldwin is just a doofus who is arguing that a 13-0 BigTen champ got "the benefit of the doubt" in 2019 by being included in the playoff.

in other words, "all 2019 Ohio State did was go unbeaten and beat 5 ranked teams including three consecutive Top Ten wins by double digits to close the regular season, why couldn't they do something like lose a game by 28 points and finish 2nd in their division the way a truly deserving A&M team did this year?"

this smells of someone taking the Colin Cowherd/Clay Travis angle of "just be colorful and controversial and sound like you mean it, and the clicks will come". 

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2 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

SEC didn't play any OOC games and their usual 2 cupcakes each. Ya gotta compare head-to-head P5 vs P5 to get a better picture. 2020 was a covid shitshow.

That's the point.  If you don't play any OOC games then no matter how good or bad the conference is the end result will be 0.500 on the dot.  Not 0.499, not 0.501... 0.500.

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2 hours ago, Blotto said:

I fully buy into the SEC is overrated angle, but maybe use a year where the SEC isn't guaranteed to be at .500 before the season even starts to make your point.

That’s not how it works though.  Yes, wins/losses does equal .500 but teams that finish above .500 is a different thing altogether.   Just take a 10 team conference for example, if say Kansas goes winless, it’s possible that 90% of the conference can finish above .500 in round robin play.   All 9 other teams split games and go 4-4 with their 5th win being Kansas.  
 

The SEC outside Bama was very mediocre this year.   UF, UGA and aggy did ok against an atrocious rest of the conference.  

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18 minutes ago, Treefidy said:


 

The SEC outside Bama was very mediocre this year.   

That’s all you need to say. Every year.

It’s always Bama and one other team (last year LSU) that are clearly championship contenders.  Then you have some strong teams (UGA most years, UF and aggy this year), some mediocre teams, and a bunch of bad teams. 
Wow. You know what that sounds like?  Every other conference.
Because of the strength of Bama, SECX3 has that myth that every SECX3 team could sweep any other conference. 
That’s crap. Bama would dominate every other conference, and match up well against Clemson in the ACC. Every other SECX3 team would have the same up and down years in any other conference, that they have in the SECX3.
aggy is the perfect proof of that. They were mediocre in B12, they’re mediocre in SECX3. They’re having a good year this year, lightning in a bottle. The same as they had in SWC when they cheated. 

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23 hours ago, msucolt45 said:

aggy is the only one that “Champions” the SEC, except the office of the SEC. I’ve lived in SEC “country” (LA) and have driven throughout the entire SEC landscape and the only vehicles with a SEC sticker on a vehicle will be one that also includes multiple aggy stickers. The rest of the SEC teams aren’t shedding a tear for aggy, because it’s always been, if not us, then F-Them!!!

I almost never see an SEC logo on anything, and I live surrounded by SEC fans.

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3 hours ago, jinx said:

I almost never see an SEC logo on anything, and I live surrounded by SEC fans.

I'll take "Things you hear in prison" for $500, Alex...

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On 12/22/2020 at 12:26 PM, General Specific said:


Always root against aggy, OU, Miami and ND. ALWAYS! Even if playing a COVID spreading Satan team. And if any two of those teams play each other, root for meteor strike, tornado or sink holes!

Hell, I root for idle against them as well!

Fuck them all, let God sort them out!

Highway 6 - Aggies 0

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22 hours ago, Treefidy said:

That’s not how it works though.  Yes, wins/losses does equal .500 but teams that finish above .500 is a different thing altogether.   Just take a 10 team conference for example, if say Kansas goes winless, it’s possible that 90% of the conference can finish above .500 in round robin play.   All 9 other teams split games and go 4-4 with their 5th win being Kansas.  
 

The SEC outside Bama was very mediocre this year.   UF, UGA and aggy did ok against an atrocious rest of the conference.  

What helps the SEC's image (in addition to the blatant pimping by ESPN and others) is that the drive-by fan looks at the apparent size and speed of the teams and is convinced they must be awesome...even if they don't play good football. People rationalize that what makes those teams play lackluster ball isn't their lack of awesomeness but the fact they're matched up with such salty conference foes. So bad plays and games and teams are forgiven, because they're facing such a rough road. It's all a bottomless cauldron of pus. 

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