2018 San Antonio Spurs Offseason Thread -- Into the Great Unknown

[C-Man 27248]

I never thought I would use “bitchass” and “Kawhi Leonard” in the same sentence.

Can we start giving him shit for missing the FT at the end of Game 6 in Miami in 2013?

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

If we're in full pile on mode, I mean the dude couldn't even beat out Richard Jefferson his rookie year. 

[aggie08 21514]

One of the biggest bummers from shaggy's implosion: we may never know if that lamarcusoldridge fellow still thinks Kawhi is the best basketball player evar.

It seems like just yesterday that he was telling everyone to relax, and the reporting by Woj and Lowe was just throwing shit against a wall.

Edited July 3, 2018 by aggie08

[BigOrange1 6466]

10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

One of the biggest bummers from shaggy's implosion: we may never know if that lamarcusoldridge fellow still thinks Kawhi is the best basketball player evar.

It seems like just yesterday that he was telling everyone to relax, and the reporting by Woj and Lowe was just throwing shit against a wall.

oh man, that guy is probably damn near suicidal right now.

[Michael Knight 12990]

The Lakers renounced Randle which is probably to clear up space for Kawhi

[thepop 4409]

Boogie to the bay. Time to tank.

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

10 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

The Lakers renounced Randle which is probably to clear up space for Kawhi

We can hope as they’re still operating below cap line but I think they wanted the full mle for a couple of guys including Cousins.... warriors said, Fuck you, Lebron.

[Radical Larry 28659]

Lakers may hold of on trading for Kawhi and sign him next summer.

[kingkoopa6 8377]

lonnie walker time 

 

nba tv

[kingkoopa6 8377]

lol grayson allen

[cactusflinthead 27601]

6 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Does anyone think maybe there's a woman at the bottom of all of this?

I didn't think it was possible for him to lose more respect, but this would do it.

This whole mess is an object lesson in not listening to family when they don't know what the hell they are talking about. 

Uncle Dennis. Super genius 

[chainsaw 9873]

If so, undefeated.

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

36 minutes ago, thepop said:

Boogie to the bay. Time to tank.

5 mil a year.  What an idiot!

[aggie08 21514]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

One of the biggest bummers from shaggy's implosion: we may never know if that lamarcusoldridge fellow still thinks Kawhi is the best basketball player evar.

It seems like just yesterday that he was telling everyone to relax, and the reporting by Woj and Lowe was just throwing shit against a wall.

I got a neg rep from some got named walte646 for this...did oldridge make the jump!? Please say yes.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Championship window is at least 2-4 years away for everybody. 

I'm getting close to trade LMA and get young assets/draft picks. Then tank. 

Edited July 3, 2018 by texasstrong12

[Eskimohorn 5642]

5 mil a year.  What an idiot!

He’ll have to live in Oakland

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

55 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I didn't think it was possible for him to lose more respect, but this would do it.

This whole mess is an object lesson in not listening to family when they don't know what the hell they are talking about. 

Uncle Dennis. Super genius 

I mean, not really. From Kawhis  perspective everything is turning out fine.  He got to rest and rehab for a year while making 20 million.   Got to spend a few months in NYC  farting around.  Didn't have to do any post game interviews or press conferences.  He might get to Los Angeles year sooner, and he's still in line for a max deal in 2019.  The only downside  for him is he pissed off and alienated an entire city, and will hear a flood of boos twice a year for the rest of his career.

[NoRagrets 1125]

This Silver douche is asleep at the wheel. The East is now complete garbage, so the finals will completely suck. The warriors have a legit all-star team now at every position. Kawhi is going to chase a sneaker deal while helping Lebron lose to GSW in the first round every year. And the Spurs and every other small market team in the league is going to suck forever now bc every budding star is going to go chase their "brand" after their first contract is up in either LA, Chicago, or NY.

[immortal13 4059]

I blame Lavar Ball

[C-Man 27248]

33 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

This Silver douche is asleep at the wheel. The East is now complete garbage, so the finals will completely suck. The warriors have a legit all-star team now at every position. Kawhi is going to chase a sneaker deal while helping Lebron lose to GSW in the first round every year. And the Spurs and every other small market team in the league is going to suck forever now bc every budding star is going to go chase their "brand" after their first contract is up in either LA, Chicago, or NY.

For quite awhile now, the NBA has held little of my interest outside of the Spurs. I wasn't even seeing many of their games until the playoffs. The Kawhi thing and the constant making of superteams is just killing it for me. College basketball barely been on my radar in many years. Silver needs to do something. This is like AAU-level shit -- let's create as good a team as we can and go win a title.

[Dutchrudder 11150]

6 hours ago, texasstrong12 said:

Championship window is at least 2-4 years away for everybody. 

I'm getting close to trade LMA and get young assets/draft picks. Then tank. 

I was kind of wondering if this would eventually happen. The Spurs could send Kawhi to the Lakers for a good package, and maybe send LMA to Philly for a good package of picks and young players too. LMA only makes a little more than Kawhi, so the money probably works out, but Fultz, Saric, Kuzma, Ingram and 3-5 picks would be a hell of a starter kit for any team. 

[Fug 541]

2 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

I was kind of wondering if this would eventually happen. The Spurs could send Kawhi to the Lakers for a good package, and maybe send LMA to Philly for a good package of picks and young players too. LMA only makes a little more than Kawhi, so the money probably works out, but Fultz, Saric, Kuzma, Ingram and 3-5 picks would be a hell of a starter kit for any team. 

Lmfao, this is delusional as hell if you think this even remotely happens. 

[HookEm 2467]

You couldn't even get Saric for LMA much less get Fultz and picks thrown into the deal.

LMA trade value is not very high.

[ZanTheFan 49]

What's this great culture you are referring to here? Isn't Philly the team whose gm or president just got fired for talking shit about his own players on fake twitter accounts? I mean Philly with Kawhi could make the finals so that in itself might be enough to get him to resign but is the culture reference to the team, the city or what?

Brett Brown is basically a Pop starter kit

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23216496/nba-how-philadelphia-76ers-formed-culture-built-win

[ZanTheFan 49]

I was kind of wondering if this would eventually happen. The Spurs could send Kawhi to the Lakers for a good package, and maybe send LMA to Philly for a good package of picks and young players too. LMA only makes a little more than Kawhi, so the money probably works out, but Fultz, Saric, Kuzma, Ingram and 3-5 picks would be a hell of a starter kit for any team. 

I want whatever the hell this guy is smoking

[texasstrong12 4668]

19 minutes ago, HookEm said:

LMA trade value is not very high.

I don't know what the Spurs could get for LMA in return but I find this hard to believe after the season LMA had last year. LMA was one of the best bigs in the league last year. 

LMA's age (32) probably hurts his value but I guarantee there would be a line of teams interested. 

Edited July 3, 2018 by texasstrong12

[Eastwood 4394]

Pop only has a couple of years left, if not one. He burned the last remaining years he could have had with his wife chasing a title with Kawhi. We aren't clearing out the roster and tanking while Pop is at the helm. Pop wants, no, needs one more title to make everything that has happened since 2014 worth it.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Something to keep in mind. Ingram and picks isn't substantially better if at all than some of the packages being thrown out there in reference to the Clippers. Tobias Harris is a good young player. 

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

8 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

This Silver douche is asleep at the wheel. The East is now complete garbage, so the finals will completely suck. The warriors have a legit all-star team now at every position. Kawhi is going to chase a sneaker deal while helping Lebron lose to GSW in the first round every year. And the Spurs and every other small market team in the league is going to suck forever now bc every budding star is going to go chase their "brand" after their first contract is up in either LA, Chicago, or NY.

It's almost as if they should limit one max contract per team.  

Also, Kyrie just starred in a movie while playing in Boston.  Im not sure market had as much of an impact anymore.  

[chainsaw 9873]

Kawhi and Patty for Melo.

[Gut Wagon 8086]

1 hour ago, texasstrong12 said:

Something to keep in mind. Ingram and picks isn't substantially better if at all than some of the packages being thrown out there in reference to the Clippers. Tobias Harris is a good young player. 

I like Harris. He plays hard and has talent. We need more of that combination. 

As for Leonard ending up a Clipper, that's fine with me, assuming the total package sent to SA is good enough. I don't mind Los Angeles the city getting a star player from us...but I do mind the Lakers getting one. 

Edited July 3, 2018 by Gut Wagon

[C-Man 27248]

I don't know what the Spurs could get for LMA in return but I find this hard to believe after the season LMA had last year. LMA was one of the best bigs in the league last year. 
LMA's age (32) probably hurts his value but I guarantee there would be a line of teams interested. 

What this guy said.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

Well Lenny sucks.  Trade his ass.

http://www.nba.com/games/20180702/SASUTA#/boxscore

 

[Gut Wagon 8086]

12 minutes ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

Well Lenny sucks.  Trade his ass.

http://www.nba.com/games/20180702/SASUTA#/boxscore

 

Dominated by Grayson Allen, among others. Oh, the humanity. 

[texasstrong12 4668]

 

Edited July 3, 2018 by texasstrong12

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

Metu had a nice debut in summer league.  10 and 7, I think.  Very intrigued by him as I think he can step in and give us 10 minutes a night.... he might have to.  Lonnie had a night to forget but he'll get better.... he's young with lousy shot selection, it's going to take him some time.  Probably a full year before he resembles anything near his upside potential.  And then another year before he really gets a lot of the pro style PNR and passing.  Should be able to give effort on D right away.

Absolutely expect White to be a bench rotational player for us this season.  I was taken a little off guard by the Marco signing b/c of this.  I love Marco but 3 seasons was a long time ago and his defense was horrendous last year.  I'm sure he'll be put in better positions to succeed by our staff than Atlanta but no longer a young guy anymore....

 

 

[Gut Wagon 8086]

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I love Marco but 3 seasons was a long time ago and his defense was horrendous last year. 

 

If we aren't going to get D out of our backup shooting guard anyway, I have a feeling I'm going to be happier with Marco than with Patty. The latter puts forth defensive effort but is constantly abused by any counterpart with size and/or athleticism. And many nights Mills doesn't offset it with the offense our second unit needs. Besides, Marco seems to have been a popular teammate. Unlike a certain guy I'll not mention here. 

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

5 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

If we aren't going to get D out of our backup shooting guard anyway, I have a feeling I'm going to be happier with Marco than with Patty. The latter puts forth defensive effort but is constantly abused by any counterpart with size and/or athleticism. And many nights Mills doesn't offset it with the offense our second unit needs. Besides, Marco seems to have been a popular teammate. Unlike a certain guy I'll not mention here. 

Mills hasn't gone anywhere..... I'm going to guess they have Marco playing the wing on the 2nd unit with Patty as the "lead guard".  It's a strange signing b/c Marco gets pushed around on defense at the 3 and if White or Lonnie are going to get minutes it's on the 2nd unit.  Again, really like Marco but he's really an off guard.  At least he can shoot....

 

[XYZ 2154]

15 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

Besides, Marco seems to have been a popular teammate. Unlike a certain guy I'll not mention here. 

Is it Kawhi? I bet it’s Kawhi.

[Gut Wagon 8086]

10 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Mills hasn't gone anywhere..... I'm going to guess they have Marco playing the wing on the 2nd unit with Patty as the "lead guard".  It's a strange signing b/c Marco gets pushed around on defense at the 3 and if White or Lonnie are going to get minutes it's on the 2nd unit.  Again, really like Marco but he's really an off guard.  At least he can shoot....

 

If Patty's playing "lead," I guess that really does mean they aren't holding onto TP? I haven't kept up with his situation in all this mess.

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

10 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

If Patty's playing "lead," I guess that really does mean they aren't holding onto TP? I haven't kept up with his situation in all this mess.

Yea, I almost put him back in...... If they re-sign TP then I have no idea what they're thinking with their roster construction.  They know what's going on with Kawhi and possibly pieces which may be going in and out but bringing Tony back would basically take minutes away from developing our young guys like White and Lonnie.  It also hurts are defense on the 2nd unit.

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

A day or so ago in this thread, I saw some shit about Tony's interview last season which supposedly got Kawhi's panties in a bunch......  Here's said interview.  First, I don't really believe he was that upset about the interview, seems like a BS excuse to try and build a narrative that the Spurs were mean to him.  Second, if he really was upset, he's a total pansy.  He also has Tony's phone number, he could have picked up the phone.... 

This is more like the reality of the situation.... 

Could the Spurs played this better?  Yes.  Do they need to rigorously review their medical staff?  Seems so.  But they're not the big bad guy here.....

[Lurker 0]

A day or so ago in this thread, I saw some shit about Tony's interview last season which supposedly got Kawhi's panties in a bunch......  Here's said interview.  First, I don't really believe he was that upset about the interview, seems like a BS excuse to try and build a narrative that the Spurs were mean to him.  Second, if he really was upset, he's a total pansy.  He also has Tony's phone number, he could have picked up the phone.... 
[/url] This is more like the reality of the situation.... 
Could the Spurs played this better?  Yes.  Do they need to rigorously review their medical staff?  Seems so.  But they're not the big bad guy here.....

I said it back then and now after watching again feel the same way...I think Parker was being sarcastic when he made the "100% worse" comment. He smirked as he said it. Seems like much ado about nothing.



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[Horn of Gabriel 1668]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

A day or so ago in this thread, I saw some shit about Tony's interview last season which supposedly got Kawhi's panties in a bunch......  Here's said interview.  First, I don't really believe he was that upset about the interview, seems like a BS excuse to try and build a narrative that the Spurs were mean to him.  Second, if he really was upset, he's a total pansy.  He also has Tony's phone number, he could have picked up the phone.... 

This is more like the reality of the situation.... 

Could the Spurs played this better?  Yes.  Do they need to rigorously review their medical staff?  Seems so.  But they're not the big bad guy here.....

So fucking this.

[Welch 635]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

A day or so ago in this thread, I saw some shit about Tony's interview last season which supposedly got Kawhi's panties in a bunch......  Here's said interview.  First, I don't really believe he was that upset about the interview, seems like a BS excuse to try and build a narrative that the Spurs were mean to him.  Second, if he really was upset, he's a total pansy.  He also has Tony's phone number, he could have picked up the phone.... 

This is more like the reality of the situation.... 

Could the Spurs played this better?  Yes.  Do they need to rigorously review their medical staff?  Seems so.  But they're not the big bad guy here.....

 

How do you quote those three tweets and then conclude that the Spurs could have played it better and need to review their medical staff?

[texasstrong12 4668]

Uh oh Magic. 

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

1 minute ago, Welch said:

 

How do you quote those three tweets and then conclude that the Spurs could have played it better and need to review their medical staff?

I believe Mitch had a nice post a few days ago on rumblings of some other "issues" we've had with misdiagnosis for our players.  It matches up with some things I've read.  Nothing totally concrete but often times, where there's smoke there's fire.  A robust review doesn't mean they necessarily did anything wrong, but it certainly seems in order.

[Patrick Bateman 3918]

4 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Uh oh Magic. 

The dichotomy between what ESPN trumpets (obviously getting a lot of sourcing from Klutch and/or the Lakers) vs other outlets have put out is interesting..... We already have seen what Jabari (Uncle Dennis) has put out about signing L-T in a place like Philly.

 

[Gut Wagon 8086]

58 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I believe Mitch had a nice post a few days ago on rumblings of some other "issues" we've had with misdiagnosis for our players.  It matches up with some things I've read.  Nothing totally concrete but often times, where there's smoke there's fire.  A robust review doesn't mean they necessarily did anything wrong, but it certainly seems in order.

I think that earlier “misdiagnosis” was in regard to Mills coming off the 2014 title, or thereabouts. Someone will hop in here if I’m misstating it. 

[texasstrong12 4668]

Derrick White is good and will get some minutes for us next year. These summer league games are a waste of time for him. The Spurs robably just need to shut him down.