The Beatles - Get Back (by Peter Jackson)

[Blutarski 21]

A follow up to his first take on the documentary. About 30 minutes long, and he goes more in depth about how prolific these guys were before the age of 30.

 

[tigol 2395]

I missed this nugget on first viewing.  While they're working on "Get Back" Paul rubs his eyes and says, "I think I'm getting Hong Kong Flu."  I learned something new today.  https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1968-pandemic.html

[AnotherUTFan 9727]

I caught that. I mentioned upthread that this was shot a few weeks after I was born. My Mom's always told me that when i was born few came to the hospital because everybody was home with the Hong Kong Flu. It was a big pandemic at that time.

[Neonmoon 38129]

Through 1.5 episodes so far. 

Paul just oozes great music. I know it’s says Lennon/McCartney on every song but shit, seemed like it was more McCartney than Lennon in the Get Back sessions. Paul fucking around on the piano just plucking diamonds out of thin air. John would write at home and come in with a couple songs, but Paul was just oozing them. 

The Beatles were going to break up regardless of Yoko, but her sitting next to John 24/7 even during rehearsals and recording didn’t help them stay together. They discussed it. They said Yoko talks for John now. They all were tired of the circus. George was tired of being pushed around by Paul or John. Ringo was checked out mentally. 

John and Paul loved to play together and you could see it in their faces when they did.

 

[DougO 5243]

After seeing the whole thing I reiterate that they definitely edit a version down to 2 1/2-ish hours. Some of the goofing around can be a bit of a slog, even for a hardcore Beatles fan. There's plenty they could cut out and still keep the same basic narrative. I'd like to have a shorter version that I could watch repeatedly when I need a lift rather than dedicate a days for a marathon. I think it could be done fairly easily. It would reach a lot more viewers and get more people interested in the whole Beatles thing that maybe weren't as much before. 

[dcbc 14465]

9 minutes ago, DougO said:

After seeing the whole thing I reiterate that they definitely edit a version down to 2 1/2-ish hours. Some of the goofing around can be a bit of a slog, even for a hardcore Beatles fan. There's plenty they could cut out and still keep the same basic narrative. I'd like to have a shorter version that I could watch repeatedly when I need a lift rather than dedicate a days for a marathon. I think it could be done fairly easily. It would reach a lot more viewers and get more people interested in the whole Beatles thing that maybe weren't as much before. 

I was thinking that during part 1, but during the second two parts, I was wondering how much gold wasn't mined.  The slow burn on some of the songs' evolutions was the best part for me.  But damn, that rooftop performance.  For all the slop, when they got together for that, it was so tight.

 

At the end of it all, I really wondered what the Beatles would have evolved to, had they been able to tour in a practical sense.

[DougO 5243]

28 minutes ago, dcbc said:

I was thinking that during part 1, but during the second two parts, I was wondering how much gold wasn't mined.  The slow burn on some of the songs' evolutions was the best part for me.  But damn, that rooftop performance.  For all the slop, when they got together for that, it was so tight.

 

At the end of it all, I really wondered what the Beatles would have evolved to, had they been able to tour in a practical sense.

Yes, they should offer both less and more. A feature length film, and more extras.

[Chad Fuck 17658]

Yes, they should offer both less and more. A feature length film, and more extras.

That’ll be in the ultimate boxed set which will come out in about ten years. Reserve yours today!

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

22 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Thought this was one of the cool parts of the doc but didn’t they start working on Abbey Road like weeks or a month or so after the Get Back sessions?  If so, it makes sense they had those song’s percolating in their heads at the time.  

Once they stopped touring (August 1966)  and focus on albums, they kicked them out with amazing speed. 

In 4 years they released:

• Sgt Pepper's
• Magical Mystery Tour
• White Album
• Yellow Submarine
• Abbey Road
• Let It Be

That's a hell of a run.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6559]

8 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Once they stopped touring (August 1966)  and focus on albums, they kicked them out with amazing speed. 

In 4 years they released:

• Sgt Pepper's
• Magical Mystery Tour
• White Album
• Yellow Submarine
• Abbey Road
• Let It Be

That's a hell of a run.

Agreed.  Rick Beato mentioned that in a 365 day period they put out Help, Rubber Soul and Revolver which is pretty remarkable also.

[UTCzech III 2907]

18 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Once they stopped touring (August 1966)  and focus on albums, they kicked them out with amazing speed. 

In 4 years they released:

• Sgt Pepper's
• Magical Mystery Tour
• White Album
• Yellow Submarine
• Abbey Road
• Let It Be

That's a hell of a run.

Plus, due to pressure from the record companies, they basically gave away an albums worth of singles and non-album tracks

Strawberry Fields Forever
Penny Lane
It's All Too Much (recorded during the Pepper sessions but held until put on Yellow Submarine soundtrack)
All You Need is Love
Baby You're a Rich Man
Hello Goodbye
Lady Madonna
The Inner Light
Hey Jude (written and recorded during the chaos of the White Album)
Revolution
Hey Bulldog (written and recorded in one afternoon while shooting a promo film for Lady Madonna)
Only a Northern Song
All Together Now
The Ballad of John and Yoko
Old Brown Shoe

[oSuJeff97 3435]

Yeah and as Beato pointed out... ALL of that was before any of them were 30. That's completely and utterly insane.

[Sbbruin 21828]

On 12/3/2021 at 3:23 PM, atomheartbevo said:

John noticeably perked up when Billy started playing, and the others seemed to as well, but John seemed to particularly perk up, especially when Billy was improvising on music he hadn't heard before.

That was amazing how he'd never heard these songs before, but jumped in and started playing like he'd been rehearsing with them for a month.

[yoladu 4090]

On 12/1/2021 at 9:18 PM, DougO said:

Trying to fix a line in "Get Back."

Paul - "Tucson, Arizona. That's where they make High Chaparral."

i am imagining all the viewers, while Paul is trying to work that out, saying to the screen... "Jo Jo doesn't need a last name, Paul" - "Make it "Tucson, Arizona, Paul, TUCSON!"

i know i did

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by yoladu

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

26 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

That was amazing how he'd never heard these songs before, but jumped in and started playing like he'd been rehearsing with them for a month.

Fucking legend. The electric piano makes "Get Back". 

[0xdeadbeef 1645]

17 minutes ago, yoladu said:

i am imagining all the viewers, while Paul is trying to work that out, saying to the screen... "Jo Jo doesn't need a last name, Paul" - "Make it "Tucson, Arizona, Paul, TUCSON!"

i know i did

 

When George was stuck on the 2nd line of Something, he had   "Something in the way she moves / Attracts me like... ".  I'm talking to the TV...  Come on George, you can get it. Come one. Think, man, think.  Dude, it's not hard. It obvious....It's the only thing that fits.        

The difference between great lyrics and ok lyrics is a timeless song vs a throwaway song. The Beatles got it right more often than not.   

[Deej 76750]

57 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Yeah and as Beato pointed out... ALL of that was before any of them were 30. That's completely and utterly insane.

That doesn't seem that insane. Keith and Mick were 29 when the Stones released Exile, which was preceded by Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, and Sticky Fingers. Rock and roll is a young person's game. It'd be more insane if the Beatles had that output between 30 and 40.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Deej

[oSuJeff97 3435]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

That doesn't seem that insane. Keith and Mick were 29 when the Stones released Exile, which was preceded by Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, and Sticky Fingers. Rock and roll is a young person's game. It'd be more insane if the Beatles had that output between 30 and 40.

I get that, but even by the standards of the 60s and 70s, the Beatles put out an amazing amount of content in a relatively short period of time and at a very young age.

In the Stones example, yeah they released those four albums from 1968-1972.

In roughly the same amount of time, from late 1965 to late 1969/early 1970, the Beatles released:

• Rubber Soul
• Revolver
• Sgt. Peppers
• Magical Mystery Tour
• The White Album
• Abbey Road
• Let it Be
• Plus at least another album or two worth of singles.

When you consider the White Album was a double album, plus all of the singles, they basically released ~9 albums worth of material in just over 4 years. That seems pretty insane to me.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

By the way, I did finally finish the doc last night.

The concert stuff at the end was worth the wait.

It was all just so great, from the concert itself to all of the "on-the-street" reactions to the two Bobbies who come in to Apple Corp to try and shut the concert down.... those two...   First off, they both looked like they were about 20 years old. Secondly, they seemed like characters in an Armando Iaanucci show, lol.

[jimmyjazz 45878]

40 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

When you consider the White Album was a double album, plus all of the singles, they basically released ~9 albums worth of material in just over 4 years. That seems pretty insane to me.

Yeah, I've already copped to not being the world's biggest Beatles fan, but in terms of sheer output PLUS the quality of that output over little more than half a decade . . . sorry, there's no other artist of the rock era that has come close.  

[DougO 5243]

When Paul started ad-libbing during the last song when the cops arrived upstairs, about naughty bad Loretta trying to sing on rooftops and such, that was the climax of the whole fn' thing right there.

[DougO 5243]

52 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, I've already copped to not being the world's biggest Beatles fan, but in terms of sheer output PLUS the quality of that output over little more than half a decade . . . sorry, there's no other artist of the rock era that has come close.  

And non-skippable album tracks. They have that all over the Stones.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 hour ago, oSuJeff97 said:

By the way, I did finally finish the doc last night.

The concert stuff at the end was worth the wait.

It was all just so great, from the concert itself to all of the "on-the-street" reactions to the two Bobbies who come in to Apple Corp to try and shut the concert down.... those two...   First off, they both looked like they were about 20 years old. Secondly, they seemed like characters in an Armando Iaanucci show, lol.

I kept thinking "These two guys have to live with the fact that they shut down the last Beatles concert". Bloody 'ell

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

38 minutes ago, DougO said:

And non-skippable album tracks. They have that all over the Stones.

The Stones are my favorite band. The Beatles are better in every way though.

[tbone_ 14106]

The Stones are my favorite band. The Beatles are better in every way though.

Not better in every way. Stones laid down a groove that the Beatles could not do.

[Chad Fuck 17658]

46 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Not better in every way. Stones laid down a groove that the Beatles could not do.

This is true.  They also get the longevity trophy, for whatever that's worth.

But let's not go off on that tangent.  They're both great bands in their own ways.

[Deej 76750]

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

Not better in every way. Stones laid down a groove that the Beatles could not do.

They also got out on the road and played.

Anyway, my comment was meant to convey that after 30, most artists magic seems to fade. Rock and roll is a young man's game. It's impressive the quality of their output for being pretty young. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

They also got out on the road and played.

Anyway, my comment was meant to convey that after 30, most artists magic seems to fade. Rock and roll is a young man's game. It's impressive the quality of their output for being pretty young. 

Yeah and as impressive as I think it is, I will say that one reason for The Beatles’ crazy productivity was they stopped touring in 1966.  It’s definitely easier to just crank out one album after another when you aren’t spending 6-8 months out of the year touring the world and playing shows.

But of course it’s the combination of quantity AND quality that really makes them special.

[Deej 76750]

Also, being on the road together can really make or break a band. Would the Beatles have come together more in that situation, or would it have ended even sooner?

[atomheartbevo 89619]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

Anyway, my comment was meant to convey that after 30, most artists magic seems to fade. Rock and roll is a young man's game. It's impressive the quality of their output for being pretty young. 

Yeah, you get some stuff like Pink Floyd and the Wall (all the members were mid/upper 30s), Led Zeppelin were hitting their peak at around 30/early 30s, but it's rare.

And looking at all of those guys - Beatles, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Zeppelin - man, 1940-1947 was a helluva stretch for English musicians being born.

[Deej 76750]

Plant and Bonham were 19 in 1968 They hit 30 as the band was almost done? Page was six years older. The first four Zep albums were out by the time half the band was 22/23.

[atomheartbevo 89619]

21 minutes ago, Deej said:

Also, being on the road together can really make or break a band. Would the Beatles have come together more in that situation, or would it have ended even sooner?

Tough call.  They wall had/wanted families after being together with each other almost 24/7 at times in that early 5 years or so of the Beatles, and to settle down/get out of the spotlight. And it's hard to compare the Beatles' experience with somebody like the Stones, because the Beatles were on another level of fan obsession/dynamics in the early 60s (and audio systems couldn't keep up with the crowds screaming/etc.).

Although if the Beatles stay together and go on tour in say '71, I feel like their fans are are going to be different, at least in behavior (they'll be older and probably more mellow), and the tours would be different. By that time you had all of these other rock bands who built upon what the Beatles did and tours had been changing, and audio equipment was far, far ahead of the early 1960s.

Would have been awesome - I feel like they would have stayed on the top of their game, because their music had been getting so much better/more complex/refined, and sophisticated in general, and the audio equipment would have finally kept up.

Edit: They would have had to work out the dynamics with George and treat him as an equal.  And they'd have had to bring in Billy.

Edited December 7, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89619]

5 minutes ago, Deej said:

Plant and Bonham were 19 in 1968 They hit 30 as the band was almost done? Page was six years older. The first four Zep albums were out by the time half the band was 22/23.

You're right, I was thinking they were closer to Page's age, but Page had an eye for....younger people.

[jimmyjazz 45878]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Also, being on the road together can really make or break a band. Would the Beatles have come together more in that situation, or would it have ended even sooner?

ISWYDT

[honolulu horn 6158]

If they had stayed together until 1972, an album could have had this track listing (US chart listing in parentheses): 

What Is Life (10)

Maybe I'm Amazed (10)

Working Class Hero

Give Peace a Chance (14)

Another Day (5)

Instant Karma! (3)

Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey (1)

All Things Must Pass

Imagine (1)

My Sweet Lord (1)

 

Followed in 1973 with songs like Photograph (1), Give me Love (Give me Peace on Earth) (1), Mind Games (18), My Love (1), Band on the Run (1), Jet (7), Live and Let Die (2)...I mean, that's ridiculous. 

[Burt 4080]

5 hours ago, Deej said:

Also, being on the road together can really make or break a band. Would the Beatles have come together more in that situation, or would it have ended even sooner?

Yes they would have. Right now. Over me.

[Burt 4080]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

ISWYDT

Well, fuck. Beat me to it.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

10 hours ago, Deej said:

Would the Beatles have come together more in that situation, or would it have ended even sooner?

Is Yoko on the road with them? If so, I know the answer...

[Wally Pryor 5261]

On 12/5/2021 at 9:43 PM, dcbc said:

But damn, that rooftop performance.  For all the slop, when they got together for that, it was so tight.

That performance "for an audience of chimneys" has always fascinated me in many respects:

- No real definition on exactly whose idea is was - Preston said it was Lennon's, Johns said he came up with the concept. 

- Up until the last minute, according to Lindsay-Hogg, the Beatles were still undecided about performing the concert. He recalled that they had discussed it and then gone silent, until "John said in the silence, 'Fuck it – let's go do it."

- Starr was initially determined not to play, and Harrison was reluctant. Both obviously went forward. Harrison refused to allow any of his songs in the set.

- Johns and assistant engineer Alan Parsons purchased women's stockings from a local store to protect the microphones from the winter wind.

- Plans to hire a helicopter to capture aerial footage were abandoned.

- Instruments used during the performance: Lennon's stripped-back Epiphone Casino, McCartney's signature Höfner "violin" bass, Harrison's new, custom-made rosewood Fender Telecaster, Starr's recently acquired Ludwig drum kit and the electric piano for Preston.

- Six cameras: In addition to cameras located on the rooftop with the band, one camera was placed, without permission, on the roof of a building across the street;  a camera was hidden behind a two-way mirror in the reception area of the building, ready to capture any disruption caused by the loud music; and two cameras were on the street to film interviews and reactions from passers-by.

- As police pressure mounted, the concert came to an end with the conclusion of "Get Back". McCartney said "Thanks Mo", in response to applause and cheers from Maureen Starkey, Starr's wife. Lennon then uttered the famous: "I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we've passed the audition."

- (On the subject of Lennon, his dentist must have been a busy man.) 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles'_rooftop_concert

 

[Chad Fuck 17658]

Watching it a second time and I'm about half way through the second episode.  It's really astounding how much the mood lightens upon the move from Twickenham to Saville Row.  Then again how much it improves once Billy shows up.  You go from being down in the dumps about having not much to work with (which isn't really true - the amount of new material that they were actually working with once you count it up was pretty amazing - but apparently that's not how they saw it), to "hey, there's something to these tunes" to "my God, we're on fire!"  There's just a lot more smiling and joking around and productivity at Apple than at Twickenham.  Yet it's like the Beatles themselves only remember those brief two weeks at Twickenham in recounting the story, yet that's only half.  

George Martin recognizes this as well, complementing them on how well they're working together.  The White Album seems like where "the rot set in" as Harrison said, but from Martin's reactions, it looks like at least he believes that may be going away.  Unfortunately don't have the fly-on-the-wall look back at the White Album sessions, however, we can see the fallout from the difficulties of the White Album sessions all over the first episode of "Get Back."   But from this presentation of the process, it really seems as though the Lindsay-Hogg film created a myth (and we can't blame him - he had to tell the story of the end of the Beatles if he was going to get eyeballs at the time) and that the Beatles themselves bought into it.  Nevertheless, the fissures must've been deeper than we can glimpse here.  LH's version of the Beatles is incredibly fraught, while Jackson's version of the Beatles appears to be a band on the upswing, rather than on the way out.  Yet the fact remains that a year later (and maybe less depending on how you count it) - after finishing up a ton of songs is amazing fashion - they were done.  The truth lies somewhere in the shadowy in between it would seem.  

 

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

56 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

assistant engineer Alan Parsons 

Wonder what ever happened to that guy. Seems like a guy who could do a project on his own. 

[UTCzech III 2907]

Just now, Cheeseweasel said:

Wonder what ever happened to that guy. Seems like a guy who could do a project on his own. 

Heard he got a great gig with some pseudo-blues outfit, relegated to recording chiming clocks and airplanes and such...

[Go Pokes 979]

On 12/4/2021 at 6:30 PM, veritas aequitas said:

Revolver is the beginning for me. Prior to that I just don't get the love.

I get the love because it was ground breaking and different.  I just don't have much desire to listen to it.  

[oSuJeff97 3435]

56 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Watching it a second time and I'm about half way through the second episode.  It's really astounding how much the mood lightens upon the move from Twickenham to Saville Row.  Then again how much it improves once Billy shows up.  You go from being down in the dumps about having not much to work with (which isn't really true - the amount of new material that they were actually working with once you count it up was pretty amazing - but apparently that's not how they saw it), to "hey, there's something to these tunes" to "my God, we're on fire!"  There's just a lot more smiling and joking around and productivity at Apple than at Twickenham.  Yet it's like the Beatles themselves only remember those brief two weeks at Twickenham in recounting the story, yet that's only half.  

George Martin recognizes this as well, complementing them on how well they're working together.  The White Album seems like where "the rot set in" as Harrison said, but from Martin's reactions, it looks like at least he believes that may be going away.  Unfortunately don't have the fly-on-the-wall look back at the White Album sessions, however, we can see the fallout from the difficulties of the White Album sessions all over the first episode of "Get Back."   But from this presentation of the process, it really seems as though the Lindsay-Hogg film created a myth (and we can't blame him - he had to tell the story of the end of the Beatles if he was going to get eyeballs at the time) and that the Beatles themselves bought into it.  Nevertheless, the fissures must've been deeper than we can glimpse here.  LH's version of the Beatles is incredibly fraught, while Jackson's version of the Beatles appears to be a band on the upswing, rather than on the way out.  Yet the fact remains that a year later (and maybe less depending on how you count it) - after finishing up a ton of songs is amazing fashion - they were done.  The truth lies somewhere in the shadowy in between it would seem.  

Yeah I've thought about this a lot because this thing really changed my perception about this era of the band. I just feel like the narrative out there (at least in my perception) was that the Get Back sessions were a miserable slog that "broke" the band.  I didn't see that AT ALL.

I get that some people will say they may have been hamming it up for the cameras, but over THIS MANY hours of footage, I just don't buy the "they all hated each other" narrative at all.  There was obviously tension at Twickenham because (a) it was almost totally unstructured and (b) George was feeling disrespected. 

But once George came back and they were at Apple with George Martin being a more consistent presence to keep things moving, this was undoubtedly a bunch of guys mostly having a great time.  

And yeah, in later years John specifically talked shit about these sessions, but that was probably selective memory based on other issues. I don't care what he said later, John was having as much fun as the rest of them. 

I just feel like the band ended probably because of some internal tension but also just because these guys had been together for a LONG TIME and done a TON of stuff at this point.  Paul probably would have kept it going because he seems like he's the one who is most into "the band" aspect of it, but clearly George was ready to do his own thing, as was John.  It doesn't mean they hated each other it just means they were ready for something new, IMO.

[Go Pokes 979]

10 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Yeah I've thought about this a lot because this thing really changed my perception about this era of the band. I just feel like the narrative out there (at least in my perception) was that the Get Back sessions were a miserable slog that "broke" the band.  I didn't see that AT ALL.

I get that some people will say they may have been hamming it up for the cameras, but over THIS MANY hours of footage, I just don't buy the "they all hated each other" narrative at all.  There was obviously tension at Twickenham because (a) it was almost totally unstructured and (b) George was feeling disrespected. 

But once George came back and they were at Apple with George Martin being a more consistent presence to keep things moving, this was undoubtedly a bunch of guys mostly having a great time.  

And yeah, in later years John specifically talked shit about these sessions, but that was probably selective memory based on other issues. I don't care what he said later, John was having as much fun as the rest of them. 

I just feel like the band ended probably because of some internal tension but also just because these guys had been together for a LONG TIME and done a TON of stuff at this point.  Paul probably would have kept it going because he seems like he's the one who is most into "the band" aspect of it, but clearly George was ready to do his own thing, as was John.  It doesn't mean they hated each other it just means they were ready for something new, IMO.

It was interesting when George brought up releasing a solo album while the band was still together.  I get his point.  He had an avalanche of music and the guys would only let him trickle it out two songs at a time.  I wish they had gone with George's idea.  They could have all taken a break, released a solo album, and then got back together to release an occasional album and maybe more shows like the rooftop or even a full blown tour.  Ah, what could have been.  

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

2 minutes ago, Go Pokes said:

They could have all taken a break, released a solo album, and then got back together to release an occasional album and maybe more shows like the rooftop or even a full blown tour.  Ah, what could have been.  

Yeah, as crappy as it was the KISS concept of each guy putting out there own album and then coming back together would have been cool for the Beatles. 

Or maybe they were just done. It happens. Regardless, I blame Yoko.

[DougO 5243]

The rooftop concert idea was not even an idea, but just a last resort to not being able to get a proper venue or someone's grand over-the-top scheme to put on a big show for the world. It was an admission to failure that they couldn't work out anything else to do. It wasn't a really popular option once considered. They punted and thought "let's just get this shit overwith." In the end it turned out to be the best possible idea and a perfect way to present that era to the world with something that would be memorable and iconic. The cops just put the icing on the cake. 

[DougO 5243]

I don't doubt that the Beatles would have gotten back together a few years later to make another album if Rolling Stone and the rest of the pop culture media didn't start taking sides and blowing a lot of stuff out of proportion, encouraging rifts between the individuals, and just reporting things that were false.

Edited December 7, 2021 by DougO

[dcbc 14465]

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Wonder what ever happened to that guy. Seems like a guy who could do a project on his own. 

I think it was some sort of hovercraft.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

5 minutes ago, DougO said:

I don't doubt that the Beatles would have gotten back together a few years later to make another album if Rolling Stone and the rest of the pop culture media didn't start taking sides and blowing a lot of stuff out of proportion, encouraging rifts between the individuals, and just reporting things that were false. it weren't for Yoko

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