2020-2021 NBA Thread of Insanity

[shadow_operative 15,932]

Steph and Luka are insane. 

[conVINCEd 21,469]

Curry is fucking unreal.  They doubled him off the inbounds pass and he managed to create enough space to make a contested three over a 7 footer who contested the shot well.

[ztejas 43,419]

The most insane part of this game is that Andrew Wiggins has 22 points on 9/12 from the floor.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

and Luka defers to Max Kleber with the game on the line and Kleber nails the three. just as we all predicted. 

[conVINCEd 21,469]

22 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

and Luka defers to Max Kleber with the game on the line and Kleber nails the three. just as we all predicted. 

Kleber shooting an uncontested corner 3 is a better choice than Luka playing hero ball while double teamed.  Kleber is actually pretty good at that particular shot.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

Kleber shooting an uncontested corner 3 is a better choice than Luka playing hero ball while double teamed.  Kleber is actually pretty good at that particular shot.

i don't disagree at all, and in fact it points to Luka's maturity at such a young age. he's 21 and the game is essentially playing out as Luka vs Steph, the two of them going shot for shot, and yet with time winding down and the ball in his hands, as soon Luka gets the double team he makes the perfect pass to set up his teammate. there are five-time all stars in this league who've been in the league ten years who don't make that pass. Luka is the man. 

[hobbes2702 13,032]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

The most insane part of this game is that Andrew Wiggins has 22 points on 9/12 from the floor.

He’s good for that once a year... which is why he’s Andrew Wiggins 

Edited February 7, 2021 by hobbes2702

[shadow_operative 15,932]

he's been shooting the ball well lately.

 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

7 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

he's been shooting the ball well lately.

 

Oof on taking 2 FT’s a game. 
I think it’s damn near impossible to be special in this league without taking a shitload of FT’s. 

[ztejas 43,419]

3 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Oof on taking 2 FT’s a game. 
I think it’s damn near impossible to be special in this league without taking a shitload of FT’s. 

Well he's shooting like 61% from the stripe so maybe it's for the better.

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Well he's shooting like 61% from the stripe so maybe it's for the better.

It’s not really about the percentage from the stripe (maybe like 30 or 40%) it’s more about being the kind of guy who has the other team bothered enough they have to foul you and that kind of athleticism. The “free” points don’t hurt either. 

[BradInATX 9,208]

He’s good for that once a year... which is why he’s Andrew Wiggins 

To be fair he's had two good games this year

2 out of 25.. not bad

[ztejas 43,419]

2 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

It’s not really about the percentage from the stripe (maybe like 30 or 40%) it’s more about being the kind of guy who has the other team bothered enough they have to foul you and that kind of athleticism. The “free” points don’t hurt either. 

He isn't physical and he isn't aggressive. Two big reasons why he's never been a special player. The FTA rate is just a symptom of the underlying issue. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

Just now, ztejas said:

He isn't physical and he isn't aggressive. Two big reasons why he's never been a special player. The FTA rate is just a symptom of the underlying issue. 

Yeah. That’s my point. The shittastic FT rate says he hasn’t made any kind of jump, just had some extra shots go in. 

[ztejas 43,419]

Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

Yeah. That’s my point. The shittastic FT rate says he hasn’t made any kind of jump, just had some extra shots go in. 

He's never been a terrible player. Just kind of meh. He's still meh on the Warriors.

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

[SilasCoade 2,622]

Can we talk about how poorly Kemba Walker is playing? Is it just rust coming off the injury or is he washed? He didn't really have a great year last year either. He will have to shoot better for the Celtics to go anywhere in the playoffs.

[d2o 1,602]

5 minutes ago, Llogg said:

Can we talk about how poorly Kemba Walker is playing? Is it just rust coming off the injury or is he washed? He didn't really have a great year last year either. He will have to shoot better for the Celtics to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Yeah, and for some reason Stevens keeps having him in there during crunch time when he cant make a fucking shot.    It really makes no sense

 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

4 hours ago, d2o said:

Yeah, and for some reason Stevens keeps having him in there during crunch time when he cant make a fucking shot.    It really makes no sense

 

Eh. If he sucks they have a low ceiling. Trying to work it out while the games don’t really matter. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,912]

4 hours ago, Llogg said:

Can we talk about how poorly Kemba Walker is playing? Is it just rust coming off the injury or is he washed? He didn't really have a great year last year either. He will have to shoot better for the Celtics to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Always the risk when you buy the best player (especially a volume small guy) on a bad team.  They sort of are who they are if they can't really pass.  I'm going to guess this is a slow start but he really hasn't changed as a player much and he's never been great, just sort of good.

[Juicy 727]

I think the pistons could have gotten more for D Rose. That is a mind bottling trade. 

I guess the tankathon is 100% on. Just need someone to take Blake and it will be complete. 

[Vic Mackey 47,027]

[ztejas 43,419]

6 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

A fuller quote would be nice.

[Kermit 3,156]

45 minutes ago, ztejas said:

A fuller quote would be nice.

“I don’t think guys from 20 years ago could play in this game, motherfucker.” - Kevin Garnett

[aggie08 21,498]

Ya know, I was just thinking that we were about due for our annual old school vs. new school debate. This year, I really want to focus on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and the impact of team sleep advisors. After that, I'll transition to punching myself repeatedly in the testicles.

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Ya know, I was just thinking that we were about due for our annual old school vs. new school debate. This year, I really want to focus on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and the impact of team sleep advisors. After that, I'll transition to punching myself repeatedly in the testicles.

We like to call that Wednesday at my house. 

[Machinator 32,099]

KG's full quote was a lot more nuanced, but leave it to Vic to post the snippet most likely to generate controversy and talking head pablum.

 

[ztejas 43,419]

4 minutes ago, Machinator said:

KG's full quote was a lot more nuanced, but leave it to Vic to post the snippet most likely to generate controversy and talking head pablum.

 

Thanks. So basically it was a humble compliment to today's players. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

6 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Thanks. So basically it was a humble compliment to today's players. 

Or, you know, reality and the acknowledgement that the game changes and evolves. Which is rare from a past great. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Dray with the play of the year

[Kermit 3,156]

One of their worst losses of the season?

Edited February 9, 2021 by Kermit

[Mole 4,330]

“What’d he do that for?”

[Radical Larry 28,588]

43 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Dray with the play of the year
 

 

 

[Machinator 32,099]

 

[UpperWestside 6,163]

The Rockets had 87 points at the end of the 3rd quarter against Charlotte. They put up a touchdown in the entire 4th. I am not even sure how that is possible to pull off in the modern NBA, but they did it. 

[d2o 1,602]

7 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

The Rockets had 87 points at the end of the 3rd quarter against Charlotte. They put up a touchdown in the entire 4th. I am not even sure how that is possible to pull off in the modern NBA, but they did it. 

CHA played a GREAT 4Q on both ends of the court.    Biyombo was a huge presence in the lane.   It helped that Wall wasnt playing so HOU couldnt really get into any sort of offense but this was CHA really turning it on.  Lamelo to Miles Bridges is everything that Lonzo to Zion was supposed to be and then some.   They have a great connection.

[d2o 1,602]

15 hours ago, Juicy said:

I think the pistons could have gotten more for D Rose. That is a mind bottling trade. 

I guess the tankathon is 100% on. Just need someone to take Blake and it will be complete. 

I really dont get that traded for either side.   Not sure why the Knicks want him with their young guards playing pretty well. and not sure why Rose wouldnt want to get to a team with a better chance to win.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

56 minutes ago, d2o said:

I really dont get that traded for either side.   Not sure why the Knicks want him with their young guards playing pretty well. and not sure why Rose wouldnt want to get to a team with a better chance to win.

Rose and Thibs reuniting. 

[shadow_operative 15,932]

although I will say that Randle is having a career year playing as a point forward, and it seems like acquiring Rose will take the ball out of Randle's hands some, which doesn't really make much sense, along with taking away minutes/touches from NYK's young guards. 

[d2o 1,602]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

Rose and Thibs reuniting. 

I get that part but it makes no sense for either of them

[aggie08 21,498]

24 minutes ago, d2o said:

I get that part but it makes no sense for either of them

It's This. He got Rose because he already has Taj Gibson, and Joakhim Noah isn't available.

[conVINCEd 21,469]

26 minutes ago, d2o said:

I get that part but it makes no sense for either of them

Thibs needs to establish his culture.  He needs a washed vet who completely understands how to be miserable playing for him to teach the kids how to be miserable.  

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

It's This. He got Rose because he already has Taj Gibson, and Joakhim Noah isn't available.

Kirk Heinrich rumored to come back for the vet minimum too

[Vic Mackey 47,027]

KG's full quote was a lot more nuanced, but leave it to Vic to post the snippet most likely to generate controversy and talking head pablum.
 

The quote I posted said the exact same thing, just in much less words. Less nuanced or not, his views were not taken out of context. I don't care about reading a whole article from KG.

[Brothahorn 10,087]

Apparently I was a little hasty in judging Lil'Ball. He seems to be living up to his hype. Charlotte actually made a smart decision it seems. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

59 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Apparently I was a little hasty in judging Lil'Ball. He seems to be living up to his hype. Charlotte actually made a smart decision it seems. 

Eh. It depends on if he gets better or not. I mean- that's the case for everyone but his playmaking is as advertised. If he doesn't add a reliable jumper and scoring there is a ceiling that is lower than all star on him.  He went 3rd.  So the expectation should be regular all star at that spot in the draft.  

I'd be worried about if he's going to get better just b/c of how much of a clown his dad is.  It's about work ethic from here out on him (as it is on almost everyone in the league- obviously). Hope he does what he has to in order to get better b/c he is fun. 

[d2o 1,602]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Eh. It depends on if he gets better or not. I mean- that's the case for everyone but his playmaking is as advertised. If he doesn't add a reliable jumper and scoring there is a ceiling that is lower than all star on him.  He went 3rd.  So the expectation should be regular all star at that spot in the draft.  

I'd be worried about if he's going to get better just b/c of how much of a clown his dad is.  It's about work ethic from here out on him (as it is on almost everyone in the league- obviously). Hope he does what he has to in order to get better b/c he is fun. 

He's already proven to be a better shooter/scorer than his brother.    That said, its only been 20 gms.    I'd lean toward giving him the benefit of the doubt at this point.   I was hugely doubtful of him being good but he's shown me enough to say it was a good pick.   Especially if you compare it to CHA's history of picks.

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

52 minutes ago, d2o said:

He's already proven to be a better shooter/scorer than his brother.    That said, its only been 20 gms.    I'd lean toward giving him the benefit of the doubt at this point.   I was hugely doubtful of him being good but he's shown me enough to say it was a good pick.   Especially if you compare it to CHA's history of picks.

Yep. Looks good so far. If they did a redraft today does he still go 3?  I assume Wiseman would be 1. Haliburton jump him?  Ball has more upside. These 20 games show for sure his floor is higher than I thought. 

[Brothahorn 10,087]

7 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Yep. Looks good so far. If they did a redraft today does he still go 3?  I assume Wiseman would be 1. Haliburton jump him?  Ball has more upside. These 20 games show for sure his floor is higher than I thought. 

I watched most of the game last night and he had his shot going. Make 7 3's I think. Said they tried to change it, but that's who he is. Already looks better than his brother to me. Plus he's only started 5 games yet leads in assist and steals.

 

Along with Heyward, he's got Charlotte 6th in the East. Gerald Wallace was probably an All Star last time that happened after 20 games.

 

 

[ztejas 43,419]

Joakim* Hinrich* Hayward*

Carry on.