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  On 5/14/2021 at 3:48 AM, Llogg said:

Would be if the refs could either call it both ways or get out of the game. Blazers getting screwed a little bit.

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Yeah it's been a little fouly. 

On another note - It's stupid how good Chris Paul still is.

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  On 5/9/2021 at 7:51 PM, Patrick Bateman said:

One of the more interesting questions in the offseason.  What happens if the Clippers can't get past Phoenix?  Fucking Phoenix or worse even, Playoff P(retender) goes 0-37 from the 3 and they get taken out by Portland?

But where the fuck could the Wanderer go?  He's where he always wanted to be, he's just not good enough.

 

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This would be the actual answer that has been staring many in the face for yrs and no one seems to want to see it.

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  On 5/14/2021 at 12:56 AM, Machinator said:

Will not miss him.

 

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Hallelujah! What a great day to be a basketball fan. No more bubbles, the play-in starts soon, the CDC lifting mask requirements may allow some home arenas to let more fans in by the end of the playoffs, this thread doesn't comprise of half of its posts bemoaning players for wearing "Say Her Name" on their jerseys from people who would otherwise never post here, LeBron is back, KD is back, Steph is back and the Warriors have returned to their upstart underdog role from the early 2010's, the quality and quantity of young and international talent is as good as it's ever been, and the only announcer in any sport to ever truly annoy me just got shit-canned. What a world.

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Webber is the worst. Grant Hill on the other hand was great last night on the blazers suns game. Why isn't he the top guy for TNT? If they can somehow remove Richard Jefferson from live television entirely I won't have any commentators left to hate.

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... I forgot that Zach Lowe's content is still hidden behind a paywall as ESPN tries to milk every dime out of its viewers to salvage a sinking ship. That shit's annoying.

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Is All NBA First Team pretty much set in stone with Jokic, Giannis, Kawai, Luka and Steph? I guess some might argue for LeBron on principle, but feels like missing 1/3 of the season is disqualifying. I think the only open point is whether enough people will vote for Embiid and Jokic on first team, since the NBA changed the rule to allow first team votes for both. They are clearly the top two MVP candidates. If that happens, I think Kawai would get the bump.

 

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I'd say Jokic, Giannis and Steph are pretty much certainties. And then it's a bit difficult to determine what will happen with the positional flexibility that is being allowed. I'd predict the 5 you name, but my confidence in Luka being 1st team is ~70% and Kawhi lower than that. I think LeBron missed too much time for 1st team consideration

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(Zach Lowe) Nikola Jokic or Joel Embiid? Rudy Gobert or Draymond Green? Lowe selects his 2021 NBA award winners

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  On 5/14/2021 at 3:49 PM, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Is All NBA First Team pretty much set in stone with Jokic, Giannis, Kawai, Luka and Steph? I guess some might argue for LeBron on principle, but feels like missing 1/3 of the season is disqualifying. I think the only open point is whether enough people will vote for Embiid and Jokic on first team, since the NBA changed the rule to allow first team votes for both. They are clearly the top two MVP candidates. If that happens, I think Kawai would get the bump.

 

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I end up watching a lot of Portland games because of time zone so I admit to some possible familiarity bias. That said Dame has been fucking phenomenal this year and definitely deserves first team consideration. I'd put him in over Kawhi for sure.

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I just watched 7 1/2 minutes of Michael Adams highlights against Boston. The score was 148-140. Adams had 31 and 17 that night. In addition to his funky one arm push shot and shooting free throws from that weird angle, I forgot that he also finished third in assists that year to Stockton and Magic. What a bunch of bullshit. 

 

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So 1st team all NBA is positionless now?

The 5 best players this season have been some combo of:

Jokic, Embiid, Steph without a fucking doubt - those 3 are absolute locks

Luka, Kawhi, Dame, Giannis to fill the next 2

 

If LeBron didn't play enough at least. And not sure he was really even better than any of those guys when he did. 

What's nuts is Brooklyn has 3 guys that have put up 1st team numbers when they've played - just none of them have played enough. KD and Kyrie's lines on the season especially are obscene. I guess LAL has 2 of those guys too. 

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  On 5/14/2021 at 8:52 PM, ztejas said:

So 1st team all NBA is positionless now?

The 5 best players this season have been some combo of:

Jokic, Embiid, Steph without a fucking doubt - those 3 are absolute locks

Luka, Kawhi, Dame, Giannis to fill the next 2

 

If LeBron didn't play enough at least. And not sure he was really even better than any of those guys when he did. 

What's nuts is Brooklyn has 3 guys that have put up 1st team numbers when they've played - just none of them have played enough. KD and Kyrie's lines on the season especially are obscene. I guess LAL has 2 of those guys too. 

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No. But players have been given multi-position eligibility *very* generously. eg Embiid is C/F

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Clippers tank to Houston, moving Denver up to 3 (Denver owns the tiebreaker against the Clips).

That forces Denver to tank on Sunday to Portland to keep LAL in the Play-In tourney or probably face the Lakers in the 3/6 matchup. 

Clips tanking ensures the Clips would not play LAL until the WCF (if both survive). 

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  On 5/15/2021 at 3:57 AM, washparkhorn said:

Clippers tank to Houston, moving Denver up to 3 (Denver owns the tiebreaker against the Clips).

That forces Denver to tank on Sunday to Portland to keep LAL in the Play-In tourney or probably face the Lakers in the 3/6 matchup. 

Clips tanking ensures the Clips would not play LAL until the WCF (if both survive). 

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The Lakers have 2 games left. Why don't we start there.

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But if Denver has the smarts they probably rest everyone against POR meaning the Lakers are in the play in no matter what. I guess the Clips could take their last game and grab the 3 seed instead but forcing LA into a play-in might be more beneficial than the 3 vs the 4 seed which is largely meaningless outside matchups. 

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  On 5/15/2021 at 5:26 AM, billfromlaketravis said:

I’m rooting for the Wiz to take a big ole s*** on the Nets in the playoffs. I wish the first round was still best of 5. 

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Nets Big3 are all probably healthy at this point. At least they're all playing tomorrow. 

Nets will either sweep them or drop some weird game. This shitass Wiz team isn't beating Kevin Durant in the first round. 

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  On 5/15/2021 at 5:47 AM, ztejas said:

Nets Big3 are all probably healthy at this point. At least they're all playing tomorrow. 

Nets will either sweep them or drop some wierd game. This shitass Wiz team isn't beating Kevin Durant in the first round. 

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I love Kevin, but there are enough dislikable players on the Nets to hate them. Griffin, Harden, Flat Earther Kylie to name a few. 
 

That said, I acknowledge it’s wishful thinking. 

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  On 5/15/2021 at 6:00 AM, billfromlaketravis said:

I love Kevin, but there are enough dislikable players on the Nets to hate them. Griffin, Harden, Flat Earther Kylie to name a few. 
 

That said, I acknowledge it’s wishful thinking. 

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I don't care who you're a fan of I'm telling you that a healthy Durant sans Kyrie and Harden would beat that Wiz team in 5 games. 

If you love Kevin I might have good news because I don't think you understand how good he is right now. If he's healthy whoever their 1st round opponent is is done and is likely done quickly. 

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What an insane class.  Kobe, TD, and Garnett.  I would rank them the way I listed them.  I know a lot of Texans would rank Duncan over Kobe.  I think Kobe was a top 5 all time player.  Watch his highlight reel.  He was sooooo close to MJ.  Not MJ, but so close.

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  On 5/15/2021 at 5:08 PM, Sbbruin said:

What an insane class.  Kobe, TD, and Garnett.  I would rank them the way I listed them.  I know a lot of Texans would rank Duncan over Kobe.  I think Kobe was a top 5 all time player.  Watch his highlight reel.  He was sooooo close to MJ.  Not MJ, but so close.

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I could make an argument that he’s not a top 5 Laker.  I wouldn’t believe it, but I could do it with a straight face.  Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Jerry West, Lebron.

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  On 5/15/2021 at 5:15 PM, conVINCEd said:

I could make an argument that he’s not a top 5 Laker.  I wouldn’t believe it, but I could do it with a straight face.  Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Jerry West, Lebron.

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Just don't think LeBron should be included in this list -- not enough years as a Laker

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  On 5/15/2021 at 5:18 PM, LTtxfan said:

Just don't think LeBron should be included in this list -- not enough years as a Laker

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If you are a Laker fan that absolutely matters.  As a neutral observer, it matters less to me.  Shaq and Wilt weren’t there for long in the grand scheme of things either.  Most beloved Laker is a different thing to me, and Kobe is 3rd at worst on that list.

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  On 5/15/2021 at 5:08 PM, Sbbruin said:

What an insane class.  Kobe, TD, and Garnett.  I would rank them the way I listed them.  I know a lot of Texans would rank Duncan over Kobe.  I think Kobe was a top 5 all time player.  Watch his highlight reel.  He was sooooo close to MJ.  Not MJ, but so close.

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Yeah because you're so fucking unbiased. 

Kobe was nowhere near MJ. I feel like I'm a parent telling my kid that Santa isn't real. 

And I was getting off to some Kobe highlights last night. He was amazing. But MJ belongs to a completely different tier.

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Lakers (+ 3 refs) get the win against Pacers. 

LAL + 3/4 spots in the West come down to 3 games all starting at the same time tomorrow: 

  • LAL (+3 refs) against the NOP
  • DEN v. POR
  • LAC attempting to out-tank OKC to keep the 4 spot

 

 

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Lakers television is god awful.
Posted (edited)
  On 5/15/2021 at 5:08 PM, Sbbruin said:

What an insane class.  Kobe, TD, and Garnett.  I would rank them the way I listed them.  I know a lot of Texans would rank Duncan over Kobe.  I think Kobe was a top 5 all time player.  Watch his highlight reel.  He was sooooo close to MJ.  Not MJ, but so close.

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Kobe was a great, great player.  Not as good as TD by almost any measure (not including TD was a far better leader and teammate) and nowhere near Jordan.  I don't get the fascination with being a close imitation of another player.  Let Kobe be appreciated on his talents and accomplishments, they were considerable.  Fantastic player especially when he was in the right mindset.

  On 5/15/2021 at 5:15 PM, conVINCEd said:

I could make an argument that he’s not a top 5 Laker.  I wouldn’t believe it, but I could do it with a straight face.  Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Jerry West, Lebron.

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Baylor who was probably better player, just in a difficult situation of being there when the Celtics had their run.

 

  On 5/15/2021 at 5:18 PM, LTtxfan said:

Just don't think LeBron should be included in this list -- not enough years as a Laker

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Agreed.  Certainly not over Kobe, who accomplished everything as a Laker.  If we're just going to consider players who wore the purple and gold then Karl Malone would be a choice, as he was a better player, but simply played at the end of his career.

 

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