Brian Kelly or Bust

[Hiphopopotamos 21191]

4 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/brian-kelly-2.html shows him as 7-5

2 of the 5 losses are the title game loss to Alabama and the playoff loss last year.

 

 

Only once has Kelly lost a bowl game as the higher ranked team (2008 Orange Bowl when he was at Cincinnati).

 

*was supposed to be an edit to my earlier post but I fucked it up

Edited December 28, 2020 by Hiphopopotamos

[Sbbruin 22143]

We’ll give you Chip Kelly if Brian Kelly doesn’t work out.

[clapclapclap 9000]

11 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I can’t hold that against Kelly.  Now if notre dame were in a conference I’d definitely have an issue with that

Pretty sure that was the joke, Rainman.

[Henry Hill 3156]

All in for this Kelly.

[The Dog 44861]

1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

We’ll give you Chip Kelly if Brian Kelly doesn’t work out.

[ztejas 44227]

2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

We’ll give you Chip Kelly if Brian Kelly doesn’t work out.

What about Minka Kelly?

[closetohumping 17817]

3 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Pretty sure that was the joke, Rainman.

Really?  Thanks for the much needed clarity.  Call me when Brian Kelly wins a conference title. 

[RGBIII 23014]

Brian Kelly has won 10 games in 5 out of the last 6 years and people here would be upset about this hire....please present a better realistic candidate outside of Urban. Needy bitches

[BabaYaga 15625]

8 minutes ago, ztejas said:

What about Minka Kelly?

Yes please

With Kelly Brook as a solid backup

[closetohumping 17817]

6 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Brian Kelly has won 10 games in 5 out of the last 6 years and people here would be upset about this hire....please present a better realistic candidate outside of Urban. Needy bitches

Mack brown. He’s won conference titles and is 14-5 in bowl games.  Wait 14-8 but you get the point.  The main key is Mack has 14 bowl wins

Edited December 28, 2020 by closetohumping

[Sgt Hulk 14441]

ADE   Average dick energy, 

 

wouldnt be the worst back up plan at 2am after urban meyer gives us the finger

[The Beast 585]

13 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Kelly isn't mediocre. 

10-3 (11th)

12-1 (5th)

11-2 (12th)

10-1 (currently 4th) 

If that's mediocre please show me coaches that aren't mediocre. 

 

This seems good.

[BabaYaga 15625]

How I'm predicting this shit show of a search to work itself out....

[closetohumping 17817]

1 minute ago, The Beast said:

This seems good.

No conference title

[Landomatic 3813]

Is it possible BK makes more money from some other sources (direct from boosters, etc) given ND is private so that $1.665 million per year number is severely inaccurate? Not sure how all that works, but I seem to remember discussions like that with regard to Patterson at TCU...that what the private schools report and what their coaches really make are two totally different things.

If not, is it even feasible for ND to step up and match anything UT could offer? I mean, with fucking mensa making $5.2 million, if I'm Brian Kelly, the conversation has to at least start at, what $8 million? That's a really long way for ND to come up. Not to mention the raise for assistants that would have to be included.

Hell, the more I think about this, it might just make too much sense. Shit, BK may even be a better fit than Urban (ducks)...what with academics being a priority and Urban having some controversies and whatnot. Note, I didn't say a better hire, I said a better fit.

[The Beast 585]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

No conference title

Weren't they independent until this year?

[RGBIII 23014]

Just now, Landomatic said:

Is it possible BK makes more money from some other sources (direct from boosters, etc) given ND is private so that $1.665 million per year number is severely inaccurate? Not sure how all that works, but I seem to remember discussions like that with regard to Patterson at TCU...that what the private schools report and what their coaches really make are two totally different things.

If not, is it even feasible for ND to step up and match anything UT could offer? I mean, with fucking mensa making $5.2 million, if I'm Brian Kelly, the conversation has to at least start at, what $8 million? That's a really long way for ND to come up. Not to mention the raise for assistants that would have to be included.

Hell, the more I think about this, it might just make too much sense. Shit, BK may even be a better fit than Urban (ducks)...what with academics being a priority and Urban having some controversies and whatnot. Note, I didn't say a better hire, I said a better fit.

yes, that is why that is not disclosed. He makes Herman money or more. Bet we offer him 8

[closetohumping 17817]

1 minute ago, The Beast said:

Weren't they independent until this year?

Relevance?  No excuses.  

[WinningIsHard 4171]

I can't tell anymore if the reactions on here are what people really think or just that stupid bastard futureman creating a bunch of socks so he can spread his voluminous horse shit knowing people won't have all these accounts blocked. Urban Meyer isn't attainable, brian kelly isn't attainable...Would you please, for the love of god, and your own body stop the god damn hammering? Some of you poor bastards need to step back and remember that money makes the world go round lol. 

Edited December 28, 2020 by WinningIsHard
fixed around to round, fuckin english language

[Gene Parmesan 4064]

3 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Is it possible BK makes more money from some other sources (direct from boosters, etc) given ND is private so that $1.665 million per year number is severely inaccurate? Not sure how all that works, but I seem to remember discussions like that with regard to Patterson at TCU...that what the private schools report and what their coaches really make are two totally different things.

If not, is it even feasible for ND to step up and match anything UT could offer? I mean, with fucking mensa making $5.2 million, if I'm Brian Kelly, the conversation has to at least start at, what $8 million? That's a really long way for ND to come up. Not to mention the raise for assistants that would have to be included.

Hell, the more I think about this, it might just make too much sense. Shit, BK may even be a better fit than Urban (ducks)...what with academics being a priority and Urban having some controversies and whatnot. Note, I didn't say a better hire, I said a better fit.

You do know BK killed a kid, right?

[Landomatic 3813]

1 minute ago, RGBIII said:

yes, that is why that is not disclosed. He makes Herman money or more. Bet we offer him 8

Well, google has Patterson at $5.1 and Helton at $3.8 (both at private schools), which seems in line with the market. Why would it be so off the mark for Kelly?

[Bill Lumbergh 7351]

The reaction in this thread is why you need to be certain Meyer will say yes before anything becomes public knowledge.

Kelly is a fine coach and a clear upgrade from Herman, but once everyone is anchored on urban meyer, your only options are to land him or disappoint a lot of people.

If the search news started with Fickell or Harsin and suddenly Kelly's name entered the mix, I imagine the reaction would be a bit different.

[Landomatic 3813]

2 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

You do know a kid died in an accident, right?

fixed

[Tex Pete 21488]

4 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

I can't tell anymore if the reactions on here are what people really think or just that stupid bastard futureman creating a bunch of socks so he can spread his voluminous horse shit knowing people won't have all these accounts blocked. Urban Meyer isn't attainable, brian kelly isn't attainable...Would you please, for the love of god, and your own body stop the god damn hammering? Some of you poor bastards need to step back and remember that money makes the world go round lol. 

Everyone has a price, and you don’t know any more than anyone else here. 

[Hiphopopotamos 21191]

2 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Well, google has Patterson at $5.1 and Helton at $3.8 (both at private schools), which seems in line with the market. Why would it be so off the mark for Kelly?

Because that is all ND chooses to disclose.  I'm guessing there are more people willing to talk at TCU and USC then are willing to talk at the top levels of Notre Dame.  Its also possible that Patterson/Helton's salaries have been leaked by their agents in order to get raises. 

[Redneck Mutha 8178]

14 hours ago, cashman said:

I would make Urban turn down a 5/125 contract before going after Brian Kelly

Username checks out. 

[Vertigo 20496]

20 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Is it possible BK makes more money from some other sources (direct from boosters, etc) given ND is private so that $1.665 million per year number is severely inaccurate? Not sure how all that works, but I seem to remember discussions like that with regard to Patterson at TCU...that what the private schools report and what their coaches really make are two totally different things.

If not, is it even feasible for ND to step up and match anything UT could offer? I mean, with fucking mensa making $5.2 million, if I'm Brian Kelly, the conversation has to at least start at, what $8 million? That's a really long way for ND to come up. Not to mention the raise for assistants that would have to be included.

Hell, the more I think about this, it might just make too much sense. Shit, BK may even be a better fit than Urban (ducks)...what with academics being a priority and Urban having some controversies and whatnot. Note, I didn't say a better hire, I said a better fit.

The thing that makes me think this could truly be a good match if we do not land Urban is that Kelly seems to be very good at the CEO portion of the job. This is the part that proved too much for Strong and Herman. My main questions around Kelly center around his offensive system more so than him as a coach. If he is willing to adapt and open it up a bit then I could see him being a great long term answer. If he is not willing to adapt, then this could be Shawn Watson 2.0 until he gets his doors blown off by Lincoln Riley a couple of times. 

[Not a Sock 2366]

23 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

The reaction in this thread is why you need to be certain Meyer will say yes before anything becomes public knowledge.

Kelly is a fine coach and a clear upgrade from Herman, but once everyone is anchored on urban meyer, your only options are to land him or disappoint a lot of people.

If the search news started with Fickell or Harsin and suddenly Kelly's name entered the mix, I imagine the reaction would be a bit different.

No anyone with a fucking brain can see that Kelly is a solid hire, any one upset with it are simply fucking troglodytes and can bitch like children.   

[DFW Horn 6653]

This thread and prospect of BK as Texas Football corch has me feeling like

[Augustus 3061]

Kelly would be the biggest splash hire UT has ever made for football, by far.

Where is this speculation coming from, just Jesus Shuttlesworth or other 9.95ers, as well?

I'm trying to remember but I can't recall such a public "coaching search" while the position had yet to be open.  It's possible it's happened and I just don't remember.  I killed a fuckton of brain cells over the years, and despite what Cliff Clavin says, they weren't just the weak/sick ones.

$9.95 sites are probably the worst thing to happen to college programs, and Geoff "I watch the games from Pluckers because they won't let me anywhere near that program" Ketchum is prolly the greatest example.  "Tom Herman is 100% getting fired" on top of the fold with "Tom Herman's recruiting class stinks" beneath.

 

[Errestaurants 2570]

51 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Brian Kelly has won 10 games in 5 out of the last 6 years and people here would be upset about this hire....please present a better realistic candidate outside of Urban. Needy bitches

These assholes wood rather keep Herman or hire Kubiak it seems. If CUM is a no go its obvious Kelly would be the next best choice.

[RGBIII 23014]

2 minutes ago, Augustus said:

Kelly would be the biggest splash hire UT has ever made for football, by far.

Where is this speculation coming from, just Jesus Shuttlesworth or other 9.95ers, as well?

I'm trying to remember but I can't recall such a public "coaching search" while the position had yet to be open.  It's possible it's happened and I just don't remember.  I killed a fuckton of brain cells over the years, and despite what Cliff Clavin says, they weren't just the weak/sick ones.

$9.95 sites are probably the worst thing to happen to college programs, and Geoff "I watch the games from Pluckers because they won't let me anywhere near that program" Ketchum is prolly the greatest example.  "Tom Herman is 100% getting fired" on top of the fold with "Tom Herman's recruiting class stinks" beneath.

 

Its coming from IT as well as @closetojumping

[Augustus 3061]

2 minutes ago, Errestaurants said:

These assholes wood rather keep Herman or hire Kubiak it seems. If CUM is a no go its obvious Kelly would be the next best choice.

Flat earthers are more reasonable than message board fans.

Unless you're undefeated every year, winning each game by blowout, you're a fraud.

If your team beats a highly ranked opponent, it's a great win.  If any other team, especially one you hate, beats a highly ranked opponent, the highly ranked team was overrated.  

This list could go on for miles.

The main reason I enjoy cfb msg boards is the mental gymnastics.  It's astounding.

Anybody at UT who would be disappointed with hiring Brian Kelly is so far beyond delusional I don't know how they navigate the real world.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5908]

43 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Well, google has Patterson at $5.1 and Helton at $3.8 (both at private schools), which seems in line with the market. Why would it be so off the mark for Kelly?

Wait do you really think Kelly only makes 1.6 million a year? 

[Longhornlove 5209]

2 minutes ago, Augustus said:

Flat earthers are more reasonable than message board fans.

Unless you're undefeated every year, winning each game by blowout, you're a fraud.

If your team beats a highly ranked opponent, it's a great win.  If any other team, especially one you hate, beats a highly ranked opponent, the highly ranked team was overrated.  

This list could go on for miles.

The main reason I enjoy cfb msg boards is the mental gymnastics.  It's astounding.

Anybody at UT who would be disappointed with hiring Brian Kelly is so far beyond delusional I don't know how they navigate the real world.

Correct, if Texas hires BK, it will be the most qualified head football coach they have EVER hired. Period. You won't have to worry about BK hiring his buddies, he will be out looking for the best coaches available and will have the money to keep them unless they get head gigs of course. Wouldn't that be a nice problem to have. BK is a far better coach than Mack ever was IMHO. Better recruiter, administrator who knows but a pure coach, I have no doubt.

[BabaYaga 15625]

7 minutes ago, Augustus said:

Flat earthers are more reasonable than message board fans.

[Longhornlove 5209]

I think Herman learned to step on his own dick from Mack too. Seen plenty of that. Irritates the hell out of me.

[WinningIsHard 4171]

46 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Everyone has a price, and you don’t know any more than anyone else here. 

I think we are saying the same thing but you seem to be implying I’m an asshole for some reason lol. BK isn’t worth urban money but he’s worth more than herman without a doubt. Pay the man, assemble a strong staff and let’s move on. 

[closetohumping 17817]

9 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

I think we are saying the same thing but you seem to be implying I’m an asshole for some reason lol. BK isn’t worth urban money but he’s worth more than herman without a doubt. Pay the man, assemble a strong staff and let’s move on. 

Yep.  If urban is a hard no let’s move on

[Landomatic 3813]

23 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Wait do you really think Kelly only makes 1.6 million a year? 

I imagine he makes more than that.  How much more, is the question.  Since you seem to know...what does he make?

[Rimbo 27019]

1 hour ago, WinningIsHard said:

I can't tell anymore if the reactions on here are what people really think or just that stupid bastard futureman creating a bunch of socks so he can spread his voluminous horse shit knowing people won't have all these accounts blocked. Urban Meyer isn't attainable, brian kelly isn't attainable...Would you please, for the love of god, and your own body stop the god damn hammering? Some of you poor bastards need to step back and remember that money makes the world go round lol. 

get the fuck outta here with that shit

 

[Dbeasy 15595]

Kelly would be one of the strongest non-Meyer choices available, but people are leery about him because of a fear that there’s another Lincoln Riley out there that we haven’t uncovered, or that his success at Notre Dame is due to a fairly weak schedule, or that he won’t know how to deal with OU and other advanced offenses.

Those are valid concerns, but who else do you get instead that would have less risk? Campbell, Fickell, Kubiak, Sark all have more risk. I could see Campbell backfilling ND and being more successful than Kelly because of the easier schedules they typically have, but I’m not sure he would do better at Texas than Kelly.

If Meyer can’t be hired, Kelly is an interesting option.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5908]

3 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

I imagine he makes more than that.  How much more, is the question.  Since you seem to know...what does he make?

I don't know, but I know he makes more than a well paid coordinator at a top program. He's almost assuredly top 15 and likely top 10. I'm guessing 6-8 million a year range. I also don't think it matters, if Texas wants him, Notre Dame can't stop it. 

[clapclapclap 9000]

1 hour ago, Gene Parmesan said:

You do know BK killed a kid, right?

I just knew there was something off with that guy

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Yes and Tom is undefeated in bowls.  
 

what random arbitrary stat should we do next?  Win percentage vs FSU and ou?

It’s not arbitrary. Your bowl record is your bowl record. On top of that, they are one of the few times teams get extended prep time, usually matched against similar talent, and something is on the line. It is a good indicator of a programs ability to meet the challenge. Some coaches seem to be much better at doing this then others.

The who, what, why, etc bullshit don’t mean much. Just did you win, or not. That is not arbitrary.

[Landomatic 3813]

3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

if Texas wants him, Notre Dame can't stop it. 

How so?  If the money's the same, it becomes somewhat of a lateral move.  Slight recruiting advantage for Texas, but Kelly's been pulling down top classes at ND pretty consistently.  ND's average recruiting class ranking over the last 5 years is 13.8...Texas' is 10.8 so not that far apart.  Although I have to believe Kelly would raise that without the limitations ND has on him. But then there's the downside of starting over and no guarantees at a new program, etc. UT may be an easier path to a national championship, then again it may not. No, I think we'd all have to be pretty damn hopeful UT could money whip ND for this to actually happen.

[ChiTownDoc 21345]

3 hours ago, Not a Sock said:

The amount of people raging on hiring Kelly is fucking stupid. Half the posters this board are made up of the guys who spend the entire night at the bar simping on the 11/10 chick who isn’t in to them and then goes home and jerks it to her Facebook. Instead of going home with 8/10 girls and actually getting laid.

Only half?   Come on, man...

[BradInATX 9208]

Imagine looking at Texas football for the past decade and thinking we're too good for a guy who finished top 10 six out of the last seven years and top 3 three out of the last four and actually thinking "nope not our standard"

This has to be "Urban or nobody" tantrum throwing because it's so absurd it reads like parody.

I've been a Campbell guy because I think he's the best available but if Kelly picks up the phone you write him a blank check and start figuring out how we fairly allocate CFP tickets to fans in 2023 and beyond. I don't think some of you understand how difficult it is to build an athletic football team with ND's academic requirements. The teams he'd build here would run circles around his ND squads.

[ChiTownDoc 21345]

1 hour ago, BabaYaga said:

How I'm predicting this shit show of a search to work itself out....

Keeping Herman?  Makes sense.  

[clapclapclap 9000]

54 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Wait do you really think Kelly only makes 1.6 million a year? 

He also thought Chip Kelly was the answer. 

From the Ghost of Coaching Searches Past:

 http://www.shaggytexas.com/board/showthread.php/163489-If-Chip-Kelly-s-available-what-do-you-do?s=d8989a7ae70e6d909c7df66b222c05ca

 

And @TexArcher + rep yourself for the 3rd post:

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