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To be fair, President Trump’s four years in office weren’t so bad, except when when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

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Y’all about to get a great visual representation of Cullman, Alabama. Only good things to come out of Cullman are the Britt brothers (Roll Tide!) and orange rolls from All Steak restaurant. That pla

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You seem really pissed off for a nontrumper.  Just laugh at the trumpers, bro.  They’re really gullible dumbfucks who worship this orange blob…you know, people completely unlike yourself.  

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Of course he's doing this. He loves force and he loves cruelty--he was over the moon about yesterday's outcome--well not the Congress and Biden part, but he's not too worried about that which is why he is doing what FASCIST DICTATORS DO: act like everything is normal.

His followers will eat it up: 'SEE, THERE WASN'T A COUP, IT'S THOSE *ANTIFA LIBTARDS DIMS AND THEY STOLE THE ELECTION...' and so on.

This is why we need to be very much head on a swivel. The coordination nationwide--that has taken some planning, and assistance and it's going to get worse. The urban and capitol cities right now are very very vulnerable.

And he just sits back and plays with himself while watching it on television.

 

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19 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Fuzzy, John Daly and Jack Nicklaus would be my guesses.  Maybe Tiger, because he loves raw-dogging pornstars, too.

Tiger already has one.

 

Also, Facebook banned Trump indefinitely.  

 

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After DOtarD, Fuckerberg should be the next head to roll. The last thing posted on facebook before their servers are melted into slag is a closeup of the look of surprise on his face as his head is held up on the capitol steps.

Cruz goes last. I want him to watch all the others get the guillotine first.

 

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Just now, Buzzrock said:

Still glad he did it. Agree on Twitter.

There are more than a dozen Trump linked accounts, did FB ban them too? Like their War Room account which sends stuff out constantly, and I believe helped with the rally yesterday. They tweet/post things like the rumor that was spreading the rumor that non Trump protestors were the ones storming the Capitol.

Zuckerburg is a Gorgon, he's only going to sacrifice one of the snakes.

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Everything about yesterday in this country just screams out, "Let's go Golfing!!!"  

I bet everything I have, and everything I can beg, borrow, or steal that Trump is on some course (not necessarily his own, but likely) by Saturday afternoon.  

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55 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Interesting 

 

This isn't good. I think he's got plans, or the intell is saying that something from overseas is going to come stateside (and he welcomes it) or who else knows but this seems not good. I don't think he's going golfing in the NE with the weather being around 40 and him being a weather wuss. He's bunkering up.

 

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5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

explain this.  so they want the lawyer to go ask dotard if he can stop being the campaign lawyer?  I am clearly not a lawyer.

Yes, once you file a lawsuit for a client, you have to ask permission from the court to withdraw, and the client must be notified to ensure that their interests are not left unprotected. It usually involves failure to pay a legal bill. Here, they obviously cited that they were asked to "perpetrate a crime" but I hope the judge digs in as to why they didn't realize it at the time of filing. 

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7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

explain this.  so they want the lawyer to go ask dotard if he can stop being the campaign lawyer?  I am clearly not a lawyer.

you always have to give proper notice to the client of your intent to withdraw, either by serving them or sending a CM/RRR letter and inform them of their right to object to your motion.

but in addition, here it's kind of an interesting scenario due to the reasons stated for the withdrawal.  if they don't object, it's an implied admission that the reasons are valid, that they did indeed foment yesterday's coup.  

iow, the judge isn't happy about yesterday either in addition to reminding the lawyer to cover his ass by serving them.

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10 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

She is right. 

 

 

This has been our concern, dude.  From the very.  fucking.  beginning.  Every bit of this, every last fucking shred of it, was 100% predictable and by some of us, ACTUALLY PREDICTED.  And it didn't take a crystal ball -- it took 5 minutes of watching and listening to the man, realizing what he was, and understanding what that kind of person does when in a position of power.  Donald Trump isn't a man -- he's a walking mental disease, and that disease behaves in exactly this way.

And I'm telling you this -- he must be removed from office, immediately, or he may well -- in a fit of petulant rage -- take action that costs not another few people their lives, but another few million people their lives.  With access to the weaponry that he has, he is a clear and present danger to all human life.

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Impeachment means nothing at this point. It was used politically against Clinton for nonsense, and against Trump for something serious, and neither time was the president removed. Another impeachment will be considered historically as just another simple blip of politics. Section 4 of the 25th for incompetence, however, would be the first time it will have been invoked against any president (other invocations of the 25th were under other sections and with the President's consent during illness or anesthesia). It would be a final and permanent scar on his already tarnished legacy and one that could not be brushed off as politics. It would be his own VP and designees saying he is not competent to be president even for a few more days or hours. Any library trump builds would be unable to avoid that fact in the long term. Absent an unprecedented takedown by his own people, his legacy will be the same as it is now.

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7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Impeachment means nothing at this point. It was used politically against Clinton for nonsense, and against Trump for something serious, and neither time was the president removed. Another impeachment will be considered historically as just another simple blip of politics. Section 4 of the 25th for incompetence, however, would be the first time it will have been invoked against any president (other invocations of the 25th were under other sections and with the President's consent during illness or anesthesia). It would be a final and permanent scar on his already tarnished legacy and one that could not be brushed off as politics. It would be his own VP and designees saying he is not competent to be president even for a few more days or hours. Any library trump builds would be unable to avoid that fact in the long term. Absent an unprecedented takedown by his own people, his legacy will be the same as it is now.

Agree, but it is the correct move.  It has to be done.

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7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Impeachment means nothing at this point. It was used politically against Clinton for nonsense, and against Trump for something serious, and neither time was the president removed. Another impeachment will be considered historically as just another simple blip of politics. Section 4 of the 25th for incompetence, however, would be the first time it will have been invoked against any president (other invocations of the 25th were under other sections and with the President's consent during illness or anesthesia). It would be a final and permanent scar on his already tarnished legacy and one that could not be brushed off as politics. It would be his own VP and designees saying he is not competent to be president even for a few more days or hours. Any library trump builds would be unable to avoid that fact in the long term. Absent an unprecedented takedown by his own people, his legacy will be the same as it is now.

Agree, but it is the correct move.  It has to be done.

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No shit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/politics/trump-self-pardon.html?action=click&module=Alert&pgtype=Homepage

 

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President Trump has suggested to aides he wants to pardon himself in the final days of his presidency, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions, a move that would mark one of the most extraordinary and untested uses of presidential power in American history.

In several conversations since Election Day, Mr. Trump has told advisers that he is considering giving himself a pardon and, in other instances, asked whether he should and what the impact would be on him legally and politically, according to the two people. It was not clear whether he has broached the topic since he incited his supporters on Wednesday to storm the Capitol in a mob attack.

 

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Mr. Trump has shown signs that his level of interest in pardoning himself goes beyond idle musings. He has long maintained he has the power to pardon himself and his polling of aides’ views is typically a sign that he is preparing to follow through on his aims. He has also become increasingly convinced that his perceived enemies will use the levers of law enforcement to target him after he leaves office.

No president has pardoned himself, so the legitimacy of prospective self-clemency has never been tested in the justice system and legal scholars are divided about whether the courts would recognize it. But they agree a presidential self-pardon could create a dangerous new precedent for presidents to unilaterally declare they are above the law and to insulate themselves from being held accountable for any crimes they committed in office.

 

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Mr. Trump has considered a range of pre-emptive pardons for family, including his three oldest children — Donald Jr., Eric Trump and Ivanka Trump — Ms. Trump’s husband, the senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, and for close associates like the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani. Mr. Trump has expressed concerns to advisers that a Biden Justice Department might investigate all of them.

Mr. Trump, who has told advisers how much he likes having the power to issue clemency, has for weeks solicited aides and allies for suggestions on whom to pardon. He has also offered pre-emptive pardons to advisers and administration officials. Many were taken them aback because they did not believe they were in legal jeopardy and that accepting his offer would be seen as an admission of guilt, according to the two people.

Presidential pardons apply only to federal law and provide no protection against state crimes. They would not apply to charges that could be brought by prosecutors in Manhattan investigating the Trump Organization’s finances.

The discussions between Mr. Trump and his aides about a self-pardon came before his pressure over the weekend on Georgia officials to help him try to overturn the elections results or his incitement of the riots at the Capitol. Trump allies believe that both episodes increased Mr. Trump’s criminal exposure.

As aides urged Mr. Trump to issue a strong condemnation on Wednesday and he rejected that advice, the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, warned Mr. Trump that he could face legal exposure for the riot given that he had urged his supporters to march to the Capitol and “fight” beforehand, according to people briefed on the discussion. Mr. Trump had appeared to White House aides to be enjoying watching the scenes play out on television.

Beyond that, the extent of Mr. Trump’s criminal exposure is unclear. The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, outlined 10 instances in which Mr. Trump may have obstructed justice but declined to say whether Mr. Trump broke the law, citing legal and factual constraints of prosecuting a sitting president. Former Justice Department officials and legal experts said that several of the acts should be prosecuted.

 

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