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I'd agree - just pointing out the madness about Muslims was blown out of proportion and lone wolf attacks will always occur.  A large coordinated bloody attack?  I don't see it.  Again, I'm sure Brisket hopes I'm right too but these people love talking shit and making noise.  They have had PLENTY of chances to kill lots of people and have done close to zero.  Let's be honest...the way cops treat Trumptards they can get away with a fuckload more than the rest of the general public. 
I agree with that up until Wed. Y'all Queda take control of state houses and FFS Congress during one of our most symbolic days. And largely walk away under partial police escort.
Violence is coming.

Most will shrink away from said violence but others will be emboldened.
A few will seek awful revenge.
It's a matter of how many get stopped.
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To be fair, President Trump’s four years in office weren’t so bad, except when when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

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You seem really pissed off for a nontrumper.  Just laugh at the trumpers, bro.  They’re really gullible dumbfucks who worship this orange blob…you know, people completely unlike yourself.  

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13 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

Fair, they are a fake militia playing dress-up and I could believe this. I hope it’s the case. 

The morons do not really scare me that much. That the Capitol Police knowingly parted like the Red Sea to let people in with lethal weapons, when pretty much every elected federal official (but DJT) was there, does scare me. That is not good. At all.

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Yeah....that’s actually my other worry. As complicit and compromised that law enforcement is, the next putsch may well work. So, no murderous spree - just a simple destruction/seizure of control of our government.
Corporations run the government via influence and money. I don't see them ceding. Can they stop facism ala smart Trump 2.0? No. And that's shows how broken we are.

Will they stop Communism?- sure that's a dumb boogeyman.
Democratic Socialism ala Berney? Easy- sow division or let fascism only go so far.
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39 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

I understand what you are getting at but more than 74 million people voted for Donald Trump in this election. 74 million fucking people lived through the last 4 years (not to mention Trump’s pre-president life) and decided he was the right choice to be the most powerful person in the world. There are probably less than 4 million American Muslims. 

Of course 99% of those people are not interested in inciting violence. Some just would never vote for a Democrat and some will mostly lose interest in politics if their orange god isn’t in the spotlight.

Still, there is something going on here, he’s somehow really resonated with a massive number of our populous and he seems intent on fanning the flames. It’s not crazy to be worried about large scale violence  

 

His appeal is very easy to understand, and frankly I’m shocked he didn’t win re-election. Outside of the forever Republicans/wallet voters, he has a huge and fanatical fan base the likes of which I’ve never seen. But I understand why those fanatics love him. Almost everyone alive has ugliness in their heart somewhere. Some people have a lot of it, some people very little, but it’s there in almost everyone. And my god does it feel good to feed it and bring it out. 
He found a way to do that for millions and millions of people. For some people it was the racism, others the narcissism, others the bullying, others the victimhood. Whatever ugliness they had inside, they could project it onto the then most powerful man in the world and feel validated in those feelings.

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8 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Look how tough the trumptards are.  60 yr old attorney telling them to GTFO and a whole lot of nothing burger in response.  Pussies to the core.  
I know it was posted but we need some context with all the fear mongering.  

 

I love these two so much. The description doesn't give much detail, so you see an old, white guy yelling at a black woman, and you immediately think, "Oh, no." Then he totally redeems himself!

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

His appeal is very easy to understand, and frankly I’m shocked he didn’t win re-election. Outside of the forever Republicans/wallet voters, he has a huge and fanatical fan base the likes of which I’ve never seen. But I understand why those fanatics love him. Almost everyone alive has ugliness in their heart somewhere. Some people have a lot of it, some people very little, but it’s there in almost everyone. And my god does it feel good to feed it and bring it out. 
He found a way to do that for millions and millions of people. For some people it was the racism, others the narcissism, others the bullying, others the victimhood. Whatever ugliness they had inside, they could project it onto the then most powerful man in the world and feel validated in those feelings.

That is just so inspiring...

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1 hour ago, Macklemore said:

ISIS openly recruited and had several Twitter accounts glorifying their atrocities. Twitter was never de-platformed. 75 million of our fellow citizens voted for this asshole. Lumping them all in with the schmucks who stormed the Capitol and further inflaming the “Big Tech is out to silence us” critique amongst them is not the way to deal with right wing expression. Apple has given those that feel way tons of ammunition by their very real and not imagined action. Again, deal with terrorists and would he rebels planning violence as swiftly as possible no matter the platform being used. The fact is that millions of our fellow right wing citizens migrated to Parler because of they felt there was greater freedom of expression. Just like we all are here as opposed to orange bloods or hornfans back in the day. Doesn’t make them Nazis or sympathetic to the thugs who desecrated our Capitol

Associate with Assholes and your an asshole too. Look at this place we're all assholes.

If you go to a Methodist church every week aren't you Methodist?  If you visit chat rooms that promote overthrowing the government or continue to support the man who incited it you are casting your lot with the terrorists.

You can still hold to the values you hold dear but the actions you take (in this case driven by lies and fear) matter.

Remember the Pedobear ridicule for Paterno supporters after the Sandusky stuff came out?  Remember calling Baylor Rapelor for the institutional defense of rape and Briles?

Yeah, if you don't disown Trump he owns you.  Stay a Penn ST fan but don't idolize Paterno, Stay a Baptist but condemn the rapes, stay conservative but call a traitor a traitor and stop wearing your MAGA gear or be lumped in as a traitor.  It's like people think they can wave a confederate flag and say they aren't racist.

 

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11 minutes ago, Helobious said:

His appeal is very easy to understand, and frankly I’m shocked he didn’t win re-election. Outside of the forever Republicans/wallet voters, he has a huge and fanatical fan base the likes of which I’ve never seen. But I understand why those fanatics love him. Almost everyone alive has ugliness in their heart somewhere. Some people have a lot of it, some people very little, but it’s there in almost everyone. And my god does it feel good to feed it and bring it out. 
He found a way to do that for millions and millions of people. For some people it was the racism, others the narcissism, others the bullying, others the victimhood. Whatever ugliness they had inside, they could project it onto the then most powerful man in the world and feel validated in those feelings.

You are probably right, but fuck me is that bleak. Literally tens of millions of people decided to vote according to baseless fear and ugliness in their heart. How are we not fucked?

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36 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

You are probably right, but fuck me is that bleak. Literally tens of millions of people decided to vote according to baseless fear and ugliness in their heart. How are we not fucked?

I will say I think my hypothesis only applies to maybe 30-35% of his voters. The rabid ones (bumper stickers, flags, rally-goers, etc). But yeah that’s still millions of people.

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I was walking up 6th Avenue with a friend on Thursday and a truck with Trump flags in the back of it goes rolling past. I just looked at the four flags and felt a bit sad for the driver. The mental damage and illness going on inside the mind of that person is real and there are thousands upon thousands of others just like them who need to get help. 
 

I do not believe there will be a full scale insurrection that millions of people will take part in. That is just pure folly and makes for good doomsday stories for the corner preachers. I do believe the possibility is there for people like the person driving that truck to go off the rails and do something violent though. As a society we need to be getting to these people and stopping them before they ever have the opportunity to follow through with inflicting harm on those they have hatred for. Mental illness is right there in front of us all across this country and we should be learning to recognize it better so we can get people the help they need so we can avoid more senseless violence.

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2 hours ago, UncleSonny said:

I understand what you are getting at but more than 74 million people voted for Donald Trump in this election. 74 million fucking people lived through the last 4 years (not to mention Trump’s pre-president life) and decided he was the right choice to be the most powerful person in the world. There are probably less than 4 million American Muslims. 

Of course 99% of those people are not interested in inciting violence. Some just would never vote for a Democrat and some will mostly lose interest in politics if their orange god isn’t in the spotlight.

Still, there is something going on here, he’s somehow really resonated with a massive number of our populous and he seems intent on fanning the flames. It’s not crazy to be worried about large scale violence  

 

Selling fear works better than selling hope. That is why Christians invented hell, and boy was it a great recruiting tool. Fear of hell was better at getting people to join and follow than the hope of heaven.  As an atheist, when Christians question why I don't believe in God, they almost never ask, "Don't you want to go to heaven?" Instead they ask, "Aren't you afraid of burning in hell forever?"   Fear > hope to most people, sadly.

It's why the GOP's messaging as been more successful than the Democrat's messaging for decades. They sell fear. Fear of immigrants, socialism, non-Christians, non-Whites, etc. and it works with a lot of people. Basically I heard this many times before the election from family when I asked why they were voting for Trump: "I do not like Trump, but if that son of a bitch, Joe Biden, is elected communism and open borders will follow. Plus, he will kill all the unborn babies, even after they are born. And if his old ass dies, that evil black woman Kamala Harris will take over. She will take our guns!" I never once heard something positive that Trump would do if elected, only the negative things they feared the Democrats would do.

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3 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

 

Boo hoo. Conservatives wanted private companies to run everything. That's what's happening. Personally, I'd love for Twitter to be heavily regulated and controlled.  But the "freedom" people don't want that and they got what they wanted. Twitter, a private company, is doing what it wants to do. 

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I envision trump calling people (Kellyanne Conway, ronna McDaniel, senators, maybe even Kayleigh mcenany) begging them to tweet his message out. All of them would turn trump down immediately so Twitter does not ban their account. If I were any of the right “leaders” I would be worried about any tweet that might look like it came from trump as that could be enough for Twitter to act.

It is silly that a private tech company has become such an important comm tool for some leaders especially on the right. However it’s also their fault that they have burned all relationships with the media. Trump can still go on any cnn show at a moments notice but I don’t think they would give him a free microphone to say whatever he wants. They would interview him which he can’t allow. 

The Twitter ban of Trump and apparently anyone involved in discussing potential violence will stoke the fears of MAGA. As they like to say, fuck their feelings, but it doesn’t mean these people are done with their violence.

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9 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Trump is such a loser. 
 

 

This exposes yet another reason why trump was the worse president. If trump was not a child, he could speak to Biden himself. Think about this, trump cannot bring himself to call Biden. Trump’s feelings are more important than helping America.

Trump always wants other people to take the high road and make trumps problems go away. The Dems seeking impeachment want 2 things: trump to resign/face punishment and not run again in 2024. Both of those are in trumps power to grant. He can resign today and state that he’s done with politics but that shows weakness.  So he wants the Dems to back down so trump gets everything he wants.

My view? Impeach him now, and set the senate trial for the second half of. 2021. Allow Biden to get his his 9 months out of the way.  Schumer can always just forget about the trial if desired.

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6 hours ago, Helobious said:

His appeal is very easy to understand, and frankly I’m shocked he didn’t win re-election. Outside of the forever Republicans/wallet voters, he has a huge and fanatical fan base the likes of which I’ve never seen. But I understand why those fanatics love him. Almost everyone alive has ugliness in their heart somewhere. Some people have a lot of it, some people very little, but it’s there in almost everyone. And my god does it feel good to feed it and bring it out. 
He found a way to do that for millions and millions of people. For some people it was the racism, others the narcissism, others the bullying, others the victimhood. Whatever ugliness they had inside, they could project it onto the then most powerful man in the world and feel validated in those feelings.

Phrasing...

You know how there are certain phrases that will always be associated with specific people? For example, "the mother of all ______" will always make me think of Sadam.

So, can we never use "the likes of which" ever again? That shit will forever make my blood boil until the day I die.

Please and thank you.

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8 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

You have a strange boner for a platform that’s nothing but nazis and pedophiles.

I believe Google and Apple have been fairly consistent, if slow, on removing content-neutral apps from their stores once unlawful content starts to permeate them.  I believe Tumblr was banned for a bit because of excessive child and revenge porn until they upped their moderation.  There are other examples, but the specifics escape me at the moment.

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Boo hoo. Conservatives wanted private companies to run everything. That's what's happening. Personally, I'd love for Twitter to be heavily regulated and controlled.  But the "freedom" people don't want that and they got what they wanted. Twitter, a private company, is doing what it wants to do. 

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First of all, declining to provide a platform for a politician is hardly "influence."  But the more staggering part of this post is the failure to recognize the corporations nakedly influence politicians daily with our blessing.

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Donald Trump was meeting then-campaign manager Brad Parscale and other political aides in the White House Cabinet Room early last year when the president made a demand: Find me a social media platform to use other than Twitter.

Someone in the meeting had piped up with concern that Twitter — Trump’s primary outlet for communicating with his supporters and the outside world — might eventually ban him over controversial posts. The Trump team mobilized after the meeting, with Parscale starting discussions about whether to have the president take up a major presence on the Trump-friendly platform Parler, posting messages there first in order to drive more users to the platform.

 

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Trump never went for the idea, according to two people familiar with the deliberations. He was too fond of Twitter, especially his enormous audience on the platform. But now, after Twitter’s Friday evening decision to permanently ban him, the president will have no choice but to start from scratch somewhere else. And Trump is losing his online bully pulpit as he confronts an enormous political challenge: How to keep the Republican Party in lockstep behind him as a defeated ex-president, in the wake of a deadly riot at the Capitol that he stoked, and as he confronts likely impeachment proceedings.

 

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“No question that Twitter was the president’s megaphone to his supporters and the media. In fact, without Twitter, he may not have been elected in 2016,” said Trump pollster Tony Fabrizio, who worked on the president’s 2016 and 2020 campaigns. “While I am sure he will find other means to communicate with his core loyalists, losing the ability to communicate to 88 million people all at once will definitely diminish his reach post-Jan. 20.”

 

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Trump’s advisers have been preparing a post-presidency political apparatusthat could be used to target Republicans he has declared disloyal, such as Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, South Dakota Sen. John Thune, and Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski. Trump will have a massive financial arsenal at his disposal, having raised hundreds of millions of dollars since the election — much of it for a new political action committee he’s formed.

But Trump’s most potent political weapon was always likely to be his Twitter account, which he has long used to rally supporters against those he feels have wronged him. He went after Kemp and Thune repeatedly on Twitter over the last few months, accusing them of undermining his quest to overturn the election.

The mechanics of the social media platform meshed well with Trump’s overall goal of bending Republicans to his will, allowing him to post one attack after another in bursts. The postings drew widespread coverage from media outlets, further amplifying their power.

Trump used his Twitter feed during the 2018 midterm elections to turn his supporters against once-popular Republicans like former South Carolina Rep. Mark Sanford, former Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake and former Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker, who either lost reelection or chose to retire. During the 2020 election cycle, he went after former Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, who left the Republican Party and ultimately didn’t seek reelection.

“Trump just lost his favorite end-around play and is sidelined,” said Scott Reed, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s former senior political adviser.

As they laid the groundwork for the reelection campaign in 2020, Trump advisers recognized that being banned from Twitter could prove devastating. There were ongoing conversations with the president last year about making Facebook his primary social media outlet instead, with aides regarding it as a more conservative-friendly platform. Conversations about Parler continued into the summer. But Trump always fell back onto Twitter.

Current and former Trump advisers were taken aback by Twitter’s announcement of the ban, with some conceding that it could severely hamper his ability to communicate as he approaches post-White House life. One former top adviser to the president remarked: “Without Twitter, he is just a guy talking to himself.”

What platform Trump turns to next is unclear. After Wednesday’s deadly storming of the Capitol, Facebook and Instagram announced that Trump would be banned “indefinitely,” at least through President-elect Joe Biden’s Jan. 20. inauguration. YouTube has yet to ban Trump, but announced earlier in the week that it would suspend any channel echoing baseless claims of voter fraud, something Trump has given voice to.

There has long been talk that Trump could start his own news outlet once he leaves the White House, but people in his orbit have long been skeptical of that idea, reasoning that launching a new platform would be a major enterprise.

Shortly after his account was suspended, Trump turned to his official government Twitter feed to declare that he and his supporters would “look at the possibilities of building out our own platform in the near future.”

“We will not be silenced,” Trump wrote. “Stay tuned.”

The post appears to have been deleted by Twitter shortly after it was published. Twitter also suspended the Trump campaign account.

Many believe that Trump will find another means of getting his message out.

“I always knew that social media platforms were trigger-happy to ban the president. They just were waiting for the right moment. However, it will not stop the president’s ability to communicate. He’ll just post in another place,” said Parscale, who served as digital director on Trump’s 2016 campaign before becoming his 2020 campaign manager.

Others argue that Trump will have numerous other ways of reaching the news media, which is certain to cover post-White House life obsessively.

“It shuts down a major platform, yes, but he has other platforms,” said Kevin Madden, a top spokesperson on Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign. “He can get on the air via talk radio or call into cable news whenever he wants. Any message or content he wants promoted still has a legion of supporters ready to push it.”

There is also the prospect that Trump’s absence from Twitter could leave a vacuum for one of his children to fill. Donald Trump Jr., who has used social media to establish a following of his own, is widely expected to remain visible and take on a kingmaker-type role in the Republican Party in the months to come.

The younger Trump, who has frequently accused technology companies of being biased against conservatives, took to Twitter after Friday evening’s announcement to castigate the move.

“Censorship is happening like NEVER before!” he posted.

 

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Does Shaun even read what he types?

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First of all, declining to provide a platform for a politician is hardly "influence."  But the more staggering part of this post is the failure to recognize the corporations nakedly influence politicians daily with our blessing.

Please see the post directly below you

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8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

How would the President...of the fucking United States...alert the nation of an impending attack if he didn't have a Twitter account? That's their actual argument? The actual fuck?

These people are morons. Common clay 

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12 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

So how soon before he calls an emergency press conference or tries to broadcast a statement on TV

Yeah, you know he’s been binge watching, while ranting and raving to anyone unfortunate enough to be in his vicinity.

I imagine he’ll have a couple/day for the next 10 days.

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