A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[Bozo_Casanova 25573]

2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

Arresting an ex-President for treasonous activities is a bad precedent but we should do it. My guess is that Biden and Garland don't want to split the country even more than it is, since the RW media wouldn't buy the explanation.

Attempting to overthrow the government is a bad precedent. We should set a good precedent by holding people responsible. 

[Vito Andolini 9036]

Sorry, nothing new or original to add, just back here for (probably) the first time in months because I really fucking hate this guy. One of the literal worst people to inhabit this planet. Today’s headlines just a reminder. 

Please carry on.

[WhatTheBuck 28575]

14 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Attempting to overthrow the government is a bad precedent. We should set a good precedent by holding people responsible. 

Throwing Nixon in jail would’ve set a good precedent. 

[atomheartbevo 88765]

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As Rosen and Donoghue repeatedly told the president that specific claims of voter fraud he had heard were false, Trump said, “You guys may not be following the Internet the way I do,” according to the notes. He also said people are angry and “blaming DOJ + for inaction.”

You know who else says that?  My qanon in-law.

[washparkhorn 9894]

4 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Throwing Nixon in jail would’ve set a good precedent. 

Don't forget Kissinger. 

[Red Five 40142]

12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You know who else says that?  My qanon in-law.

"You may not be following the internet like I do."

Said the sitting President of the United States. During a pandemic.

[atomheartbevo 88765]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"You may not be following the internet like I do."

Said the sitting President of the United States. During a pandemic.

And millions of guys around the world as a bottle of lotion and a box of tissues sit next to their computer.

[NAVY 6615]

Navel Station Guantanamo Bay would be a good destination for him.

* uniforms are his favorite color

* every week is shark week 

* lots of other terrorists to compare notes with 

* he might dig the parallel with Bonaparte  

I’d love to see the MAGA flotilla in Guantanamo Bay to support their PoS. Certainly none of them will be eaten given their history of seamanship 

[Chooky 13278]

This is a tough day for both Baylor and Trump.  And that's a pretty good day.

[Brisketexan 103230]

Throw trump’s stupid fat orange ass in jail. And when the trumpkins storm the capitol again in protest, shoot them. 
 
Traitors. All of them. 

Attempting to overthrow the government is a bad precedent. We should set a good precedent by holding people responsible. 

I’ll take “people who get it” for $500, Alex.

[AnTiM 1629]

And while they are at it, please tell all these crazy sons of bitches that keep griping about the election being rigged to shut the fuck up or else prosecute them for their libelous statements.  And do not forget to include members of congress who should know better in the first place.  This lying bullshit has gone on for far too long.

[Fudge Nuggets 18828]

37 minutes ago, Chooky said:

This is a tough day for both Baylor and Trump.  And that's a pretty good day.

Didn’t the god damn Supreme Court say this a year ago?  

[Biff Tannen 44938]

5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

arresting him shouldn't set a bad precedent, but hanging him would ruffle the snowflakes 

Fuck their feelings I think?  Yes, that’s the one. 

[Fudge Nuggets 18828]

47 minutes ago, Chooky said:

This is a tough day for both Baylor and Trump.  And that's a pretty good day.

What happened to Baylor?

[Guest Lobo]

they grabbed some women by the pussy and then talked about it on a bus.  And it was an athletics dept. bus.  But Ken Starr felt it was locker room talk.  

And if there is a God, Ken Starr, Art Briles, and Donald Trump will all human centipede one another in hell for eternity.  But not before people keep writing checks to whatever those three are involved with on any given Friday.  

[Born to Run 6208]

Didn’t the god damn Supreme Court say this a year ago?  

The millstone of justice turns slow (for white males) but grinds exceedingly fine?

[TwiceHorn 30753]

32 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Didn’t the god damn Supreme Court say this a year ago?  

Different cases.  Manhattan DA grand jury subpoena to Trump.  Also another case where accountants Mazars subpoena'ed by House.

This was a third on different grounds:  whether the IRS is authorized by the tax code to turn presidential tax information over to Congress.

Edited July 30, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Fudge Nuggets 18828]

Cool.  So we get to wait another ten years for this one to work its way through the system only to have the decision ignored again.  Can’t fucking wait.

[TwiceHorn 30753]

7 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Cool.  So we get to wait another ten years for this one to work its way through the system only to have the decision ignored again.  Can’t fucking wait.

Uh, no.  The Supreme Court is kind of the end of the line.

It was also the end of the line in Vance, pretty much.

A little less so in Mazars because information other than tax returns sought, and because House subpoenas are a bit less "powerful" than criminal subpoenas as in the Vance case.

This particular one was delayed by the change of administration while Biden's IRS figured out how it wanted to respond.

Edited July 30, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[Biff Tannen 44938]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Uh, no.  The Supreme Court is kind of the end of the line.

It was also the end of the line in Vance, pretty much.

A little less so in Mazars because information other than tax returns sought, and because House subpoenas are a bit less "powerful" than criminal subpoenas as in the Vance case.

This particular one was delayed by the change of administration while Biden's IRS figured out how it wanted to respond.

So how long until the actual returns are released?  Tomorrow?  10 years?

[Guest Lobo]

Next year.  Then a year.  

So two years?  

[henrygandorf 28650]

34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Uh, no.  The Supreme Court is kind of the end of the line.

It was also the end of the line in Vance, pretty much.

A little less so in Mazars because information other than tax returns sought, and because House subpoenas are a bit less "powerful" than criminal subpoenas as in the Vance case.

This particular one was delayed by the change of administration while Biden's IRS figured out how it wanted to respond.

i can't wait til this fat fuck is dead, then we're gonna find out....all the crazy shit...that we all already assumed was going on with him.

absolutely zero bombshells in these tell-all books and interviews have raised an eyebrow since 2018.  yeah, his financials are all really fraudy, but if that doesn't result in indictments, then who gives a shit.

[C-Man 26548]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

arresting him shouldn't set a bad precedent, but hanging him would ruffle the snowflakes 

I would also need to seek medical help for an erection that lasts longer than four hours -- much longer than four hours!

[washparkhorn 9894]

31 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So how long until the actual returns are released?  Tomorrow?  10 years?

Trump has 72 hours before the IRS will release the information to Congress. 

But . . . lawyers for Trump, who have intervened in the suit filed by lawmakers, said in January that they’d almost certainly seek to block a handover in court, making it unlikely that Democrats will get access to the documents anytime soon.

https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2021/07/30/trumps-tax-returns-can-be-released-to-congress-doj-tells-irs/ (Bloomberg reporting)

[Biff Tannen 44938]

1 minute ago, washparkhorn said:

Trump has 72 hours before the IRS will release the information to Congress. 

But . . . lawyers for Trump, who have intervened in the suit filed by lawmakers, said in January that they’d almost certainly seek to block a handover in court, making it unlikely that Democrats will get access to the documents anytime soon.

https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2021/07/30/trumps-tax-returns-can-be-released-to-congress-doj-tells-irs/ (Bloomberg reporting)

And herein lies the problem, @TwiceHorn  this just seemingly goes on forever. 

[henrygandorf 28650]

7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

And herein lies the problem, @TwiceHorn  this just seemingly goes on forever. 

and after 40 years of being in "business", this has shown to be one of trump's only strengths - evasion.

[washparkhorn 9894]

Here is the opinion by the DOJ (note - this a direct download link from the DOJ):

https://www.justice.gov/olc/file/1419111/download

 

[Biff Tannen 44938]

8 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

and after 40 years of being in "business", this has shown to be one of trump's only strengths - evasion.

Which seems to me to be a massive flaw in our system of “justice”. Perhaps it is by design. 

[henrygandorf 28650]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Which seems to me to be a massive flaw in our system of “justice”. Perhaps it is by design. 

that doesn't seem right.  

pretty sure the architects of our justice system were (checks notes) wealthy white landowning men, but they seem like pretty fair guys.

[TwiceHorn 30753]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

So how long until the actual returns are released?  Tomorrow?  10 years?

To the public?  Absent a leak, never.

Vance already has them and has had for months.

[Biff Tannen 44938]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

To the public?  Absent a leak, never.

Vance already has them and has had for months.

No, to Congress. The way that the Supreme Court just said. 

[Willfully Horn 7820]

42 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

And herein lies the problem, @TwiceHorn  this just seemingly goes on forever. 

Certainly, it takes so long that the court is of slim defense against a committed fascist takeover.

How many court cases involving Trump’s tenure were dismissed because he was not re-elected?

Executive branch cases should go direct to SCotUS, and the justices locked in a room until a decision is rendered.

 

Edited July 31, 2021 by Willfully Horn
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[TwiceHorn 30753]

First off, even for wealthy white dudes and their corporations, resolution of a major civil or criminal matter takes a year or two, at least, even at the trial court level.  Factor in appeals, and you're talking four or five years, almost at a minimum.

The Trump subpoenas that kicked this off were issued in 2019.  Getting rulings from the trial court, the court of appeals, and the Supreme Court is about as swift as one could possibly hope for, especially considering Trump's no doubt dilatory tactics.

I misread something about the IRS case.  I thought someone said the Supreme Court had ruled, but apparently not.  As mentioned, the government had asked for a stay of proceedings during the change of administration so that the Biden IRS and DOJ could formulate their response.  That was supposed to be done back in like March.  But apparently it is just now happening.

So, there is already a case pending between Trump and the IRS, and it will pick back up without government opposition, apparently, to the subpoenas.  Trump is already a party and can continue to make whatever objections he has, and onward it will go. 

[TwiceHorn 30753]

Finally, I submit that Congress is the least likely entity to do anything meaningful with Trump's tax returns.

They probably can't hold a public hearing where the whole mess gets exposed, anything involving his tax data would be closed to the public.

And, in any event, they're not great investigators and have no ability to bring criminal charges or even a civil suit.

Also, it appears from the DOJ/OLC opinion that the House kind of bungled this or did it in such a way that it slowed down the case signficantly, delaying its filing until months after the other tax return cases.

Edited July 31, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[henrygandorf 28650]

7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Finally, I submit that Congress is the least likely entity to do anything meaningful with Trump's tax returns.

They probably can't hold a public hearing where the whole mess gets exposed, anything involving his tax data would be closed to the public.

And, in any event, they're not great investigators and have no ability to bring criminal charges or even a civil suit.

Also, it appears from the DOJ/OLC opinion that the House kind of bungled this or did it in such a way that it slowed down the case signficantly, delaying its filing until months after the other tax return cases.

my understanding is that as president, he was protected against being charged with crimes.  but as a private citizen, he is also protected against being charged with crimes.  the system works, man.

[Sawbonz 26742]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

And millions of guys around the world as a bottle of lotion and a box of tissues sit next to their computer.

[Satchel 6891]

 

[Bullneck 18619]

 

 

[henrygandorf 28650]

trump and oj should play golf on ppv. lots of cameras so no cheating.

loser goes to jail, winner gets a lifetime blanket pardon. 

 

[HenryJames 64988]

@Bama Chick

[Willfully Horn 7820]

Anti-fungals in cow feed doomed this country.

[Bama Chick 28595]

lol a fucking field in Cullman.

Sounds about white.

That’s the last town in Alabama that had a “sundown sign”. That was in the mid 90s.

[Neonmoon 38126]

6 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

lol a fucking field in Cullman.

Sounds about white.

That’s the last town in Alabama that had a “sundown sign”. That was in the mid 90s.

Looks like Vidor is the next stop then?

[Chewy's Hairy Horn 867]

53 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

lol a fucking field in Cullman.

Sounds about white.

That’s the last town in Alabama that had a “sundown sign”. That was in the mid 90s.

Holy shit. My aunt, uncle, and cousins all live in West Point, not far from Cullman.

The Texas equivalent would be Vidor to Beaumont.  The comparison works on every conceivable level.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Chewy's Hairy Horn

[DigglerontheHoof 20459]

38 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

lol a fucking field in Cullman.

Sounds about white.

That’s the last town in Alabama that had a “sundown sign”. That was in the mid 90s.

You've got to be shitting us.  How in the fuck did that not make national news in the fucking 1970s?

Fuck the South, fuck the SEC, fuck everything southern.  Ready to start beating the shit out of rednecks for shits and giggles. 

Fucking cunts. 

[Aqua Buddha 13924]

4 hours ago, HenryJames said:

@Bama Chick

Over/under on the percent of attendees who have called into Finebaum?

[Leeroy Jenkins 2338]

Over/under on the percent of attendees who have jerked off to Finebaum?

FIFY

[Francisco 2.0 31626]

5 hours ago, HenryJames said:

@Bama Chick

 

 

What could possibly go wrong.  

 

MAGA Woodstock in rural Alabama.   There might be running water.

[Born to Run 6208]

 
 
What could possibly go wrong.  
 
MAGA Woodstock in rural Alabama.   There might be running water.

Can't be too choosy on venues when you plan on not paying anyone ever unless you have exhausted all other option and the lawyers you hire are also not paying and just give up.

[SizzleChest 8036]

5 hours ago, HenryJames said:

@Bama Chick

The only people left for him to fundraise are the exorbitantly stupid and abject poor?  Rhetorical question.