A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[RDCanecutter 26457]

Do we believe he had to have a reason to take top secret docs? I think it was most likely that he had no idea or interest in which documents his flunkies were slinging in the boxes, and all they wanted to do was fill the boxes so they could go get a drink.

[TwiceHorn 31511]

6 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Do we believe he had to have a reason to take top secret docs? I think it was most likely that he had no idea or interest in which documents his flunkies were slinging in the boxes, and all they wanted to do was fill the boxes so they could go get a drink.

Possible.  He managed to keep some fairly competent civil servants around that probably would have insured they made it to the Archives.  But toward the end he had dismissed them all or they quit, it seems.

[RDCanecutter 26457]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Possible.  He managed to keep some fairly competent civil servants around that probably would have insured they made it to the Archives.  But toward the end he had dismissed them all or they quit, it seems.

I bet they were shoveling shit into boxes like a broke college student who found out he could get his deposit back if the place was empty by noon.

[henrygandorf 29194]

10 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Do we believe he had to have a reason to take top secret docs? I think it was most likely that he had no idea or interest in which documents his flunkies were slinging in the boxes, and all they wanted to do was fill the boxes so they could go get a drink.

my assumption was that he would take everything not nailed down, if for no other reason than it might make things harder on the next guy.

to think he had some complicated scheme he was laying tracks for is overestimating his strategic mind by about 10x.

[RDCanecutter 26457]

Just now, henrygandorf said:

my assumption was that he would take everything not nailed down, if for no other reason than it might make things harder on the next guy.

to think he had some complicated scheme he was laying tracks for is overestimating his strategic mind by about 10x.

It reminds me of the scene in Godzilla where all the generals are strategizing to fight a war, and Matthew Broderick points out "you're thinking of it as an enemy. It's just an animal."

[Neonmoon 38129]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

He doesn’t know the rules, he doesn’t care, he has no respect for the office or anything else and fuck you he’ll do what he wants.

He actually kept the hurricane map he altered with a Sharpie. That should probably hang in the Smithsonian someday.

This is probably the best Trump artifact. He literally used a sharpie marker to extend a hurricane graphic to explains his stupidity, and thought no one would notice, or if they did, they would believe it was created by the NOAA. The amount of narcissism involved in this graphic is impressive 

[WhatTheBuck 28793]

9 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

to think he had some complicated scheme he was laying tracks for is overestimating his strategic mind by about 10x.

Yeah, he’s not a complex thinker. Whatever satisfies him right now, that’s what he does. I doubt his instructions went beyond, “Box everything up and take it with us.” Then he probably forgot about it. 

[Eskimohorn 5642]

Negged for verbing workshop.

Verbing? I had to google that because it sounded like a bullshit word. It is a word and you used it correctly.

[lemonlime 5503]

16 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

my assumption was that he would take everything not nailed down, if for no other reason than it might make things harder on the next guy.

to think he had some complicated scheme he was laying tracks for is overestimating his strategic mind by about 10x.

God.  i hope you're right.  And it's not that I think he had a complicated scheme.  I think he had a lot of debt and wanted to sell shit from the White House, up to and including state secrets.  He also had members of his own family who he forced through security clearances for who could have boxed up the documents.

[Biff Tannen 45694]

20 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I bet they were shoveling shit into boxes like a broke college student who found out he could get his deposit back if the place was empty by noon.

I never once got a deposit back.  Not once.

[WhatTheBuck 28793]

11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

This is probably the best Trump artifact. He literally used a sharpie marker to extend a hurricane graphic to explains his stupidity, and thought no one would notice, or if they did, they would believe it was created by the NOAA. The amount of narcissism involved in this graphic is impressive 

He actually made the weather service go back and revise their prediction in order to support his mistake. And then he sold Trump-branded Sharpies in the online grift shop.

[henrygandorf 29194]

for anyone wondering, like i was, about "classified" documents (and it may very well say this in one of the linked articles) - though a president can technically declassify anything he wants whenever he wants - he has to do it while president and it must be documented.  which is to say, he can't just up and claim these documents were declassified by him a couple years ago and have it mean anything legally.  not that anything means anything legally, but i thought it was an interesting clarification i heard yesterday in an interview.

[TwiceHorn 31511]

25 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Verbing? I had to google that because it sounded like a bullshit word. It is a word and you used it correctly.

He verbed verb!  But I think doing so for the purpose of criticizing the practice of verbing nouns is the most legitimate form of verbing.

[TwiceHorn 31511]

18 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

for anyone wondering, like i was, about "classified" documents (and it may very well say this in one of the linked articles) - though a president can technically declassify anything he wants whenever he wants - he has to do it while president and it must be documented.  which is to say, he can't just up and claim these documents were declassified by him a couple years ago and have it mean anything legally.  not that anything means anything legally, but i thought it was an interesting clarification i heard yesterday in an interview.

Still, if he gets called on the carpet for it, he's going to do his best Michael Scott "I declare these declassified!"

And probably go on some insane rant about how he's still Presdent and it's "his right" to do so.

And Sidney Powell or some similar dipshit will file a civil suit to try to declassify them, or have them declassified.

Edited February 11, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

I swear, we should have known the moment he started his rant on low flow toilets.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZ0ZB6DFwnp/?utm_medium=copy_link

[atomheartbevo 89752]

51 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Do we believe he had to have a reason to take top secret docs? I think it was most likely that he had no idea or interest in which documents his flunkies were slinging in the boxes, and all they wanted to do was fill the boxes so they could go get a drink.

44 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Possible.  He managed to keep some fairly competent civil servants around that probably would have insured they made it to the Archives.  But toward the end he had dismissed them all or they quit, it seems.

I do not think he's above keeping trophies to show off how important he was, and he knew he'd be losing the classified briefings that other Presidents received after they left.

39 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I bet they were shoveling shit into boxes like a broke college student who found out he could get his deposit back if the place was empty by noon.

39 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

my assumption was that he would take everything not nailed down, if for no other reason than it might make things harder on the next guy.

to think he had some complicated scheme he was laying tracks for is overestimating his strategic mind by about 10x.

Flip side: Leaving a bunch of classified documents laying around the WH would make it hard on the incoming administration, as they freaked out trying to figure out who had access to them and whether or not any were stolen during the transition.  I've managed apartments and dealt with people who moved out/were evicted, who gave no shits about incoming residents, and they'd leave all kinds of stuff around.

Plus, taking such documents creates a literal paper trail to Mar-a-Lago as well.

It could go either way, but I don't think it was accidental - his flunkies/etc. would have only been boxing up stuff if they thought it would make him look bad, or they would profit off of it (say a fancy chair or other piece of furniture).  But I don't doubt that he might want copies of certain classified things that he thinks could benefit him, particularly election stuff, or Hunter Biden's laptop or Hillary's emails.

[henrygandorf 29194]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Flip side: Leaving a bunch of classified documents laying around the WH would make it hard on the incoming administration, as they freaked out trying to figure out who had access to them and whether or not any were stolen during the transition.  I've managed apartments and dealt with people who moved out/were evicted, who gave no shits about incoming residents, and they'd leave all kinds of stuff around.

yeah, these two situations are not similar.

[atomheartbevo 89752]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

yeah, these two situations are not similar.

I still think he is not above collecting trophies to show off to people.

Or it was some kind of "insurance", either election related, or blackmail material - stuff that he could use to take other people down.

Edit: Before anybody says he wouldn't care about such things, I could easily see him keeping around various classified info that implicated others, printouts of emails from various people or CC'ed to various people, etc.

Edited February 11, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[Sawbonz 27580]

1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

Do we believe he had to have a reason to take top secret docs? I think it was most likely that he had no idea or interest in which documents his flunkies were slinging in the boxes, and all they wanted to do was fill the boxes so they could go get a drink.

He considers them his and doesn’t gaf 

 

[tokamak 6432]

Once again, the Trump administration has us debating whether they’re dangerously malevolent or mind-numbingly incompetent. 

[henrygandorf 29194]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I still think he is not above collecting trophies to show off to people.

i definitely agree with this part.

as for the other shit, i would assume it's more like he (or his stooges) were taking everything and if anyone was like, "wait, biden's people will probably need that binder" then it made them want to take it more.

[mchookem 16338]

8 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Once again, the Trump administration has us debating whether they’re dangerously malevolent or mind-numbingly incompetent. 

thank god the latter trait mostly neutered the former.

[lemonlime 5503]

Y’all think trump stole documents worth millions of dollars and didn’t try to collect on them?

[Horndog 2228]

7 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

If he's eating WH documents, maybe they don't fully digest. Would account for his standing posture and gingerly walking down a ramp like he shat a binder that morning. 

He has never been able to digest anything above a third grade reading level. 

[Beau Vine 54301]

3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The perfect blend of malignance and incompetence.

New Surly motto?

[Biff Tannen 45694]

2 hours ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

I swear, we should have known the moment he started his rant on low flow toilets.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZ0ZB6DFwnp/?utm_medium=copy_link

I have zero doubt, ZERO, that this is the explanation.  It's just so perfectly stupid.

[Mole 4333]

4 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Negged for verbing workshop.

 Denominalization.

[Born to Run 6569]

[raises hand] Once, long ago, I got hold of a klan-type newspaper, cut it into 4" wide strips, and taped them together so I could put them on the toilet paper roll in a bathroom I thought they might use.

Man, remember when it took real effort to be subversive?

[Underdog 28753]

Would it really surprise anyone if those “classified” or “Top Secret” docs that Trump took were just a bunch of FF receipts? 

[HenryJames 66134]

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I find it unfathomable that anyone with a brain cannot see why the former president departed with a truck full of government documents.

He has always been such an eco-minded person, concerned with how earth's resources are used and abused. Every single sided classified document has now been flipped over and the back side used at Mar-a-Lago because the former president first and foremost is a champion for trees!

[Underdog 28753]

Seen near Mar-A-Lago…

 

[Mole 4333]

W took up painting; I assume that Trump was taking up Papier-mâché sculpture.

[WhatTheBuck 28793]

2 minutes ago, Mole said:

W took up painting;

[Beau Vine 54301]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I find it unfathomable that anyone with a brain cannot see why the former president departed with a truck full of government documents.

He has always been such an eco-minded person, concerned with how earth's resources are used and abused. Every single sided classified document has now been flipped over and the back side used at Mar-a-Lago because the former president first and foremost is a champion for trees!

"No one loves trees more than Trump."

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20460]

SIAP. While criticizing Biden's mental competence, Trump misspelled "incompetent."

 

 

 

[AnTiM 1669]

13 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

SIAP. While criticizing Biden's mental competence, Trump misspelled "incompetent."

 

 

 

Somehow I always knew that a person could be an expert con artist and an idiot at everything else simultaneously.

[HenryJames 66134]

[Guest Lobo]

1 hour ago, AnTiM said:

Somehow I always knew that a person could be an expert con artist and an idiot at everything else simultaneously.

All the con men I’ve ever met have actually been extremely intelligent in both “book smarts” and “street smarts.”   They just hate the grind, structure, bosses, taxes, the system, etc.  but most of them could have had very prestigious jobs had they gone the straight route.  What cracks me about Trump is he’s a fantastic confidence man but also of average, to quite possibly slightly below average, intelligence.  
 

he reminds me more of the Italian mob guys I knew in Chicago.  Somewhat bright, somewhat chArming, somewhat intimidating, somewhat effective, and somehow usually gets his way after basically pissing away what others have already setup for him beforehand.  

[RDCanecutter 26457]

11 hours ago, Born to Run said:

16 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

[raises hand] Once, long ago, I got hold of a klan-type newspaper, cut it into 4" wide strips, and taped them together so I could put them on the toilet paper roll in a bathroom I thought they might use.

Man, remember when it took real effort to be subversive?

Well, it's a long-ass story for another day, but it involved me as the protagonist so I can assure you there was little actual effort involved.

[RDCanecutter 26457]

15 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

Verbing? I had to google that because it sounded like a bullshit word. It is a word and you used it correctly.

Verbing and workshopping may be words, but they are abominations and it's a big ask to get me to onboard them into my 24/7 information generation.

[Horndog 2228]

4 hours ago, Underdog said:

Seen near Mar-A-Lago…

 

Calling them up. I know a few "patriots" I'd like shredded. 

[NAVY 6747]

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[Longhorn_Fan68 33879]

[RDCanecutter 26457]

4 hours ago, Mole said:

W took up painting; I assume that Trump was taking up Papier-mâché sculpture.

Huzzah for the circumflex. Also I imagine that Trump does it in the original meaning of the phrase; chewed paper.

[henrygandorf 29194]

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

"No one loves trees more than Trump."

 

A lot of people are saying that nobody loves trees more than turmp. A lot of people didn't know that.

 

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

 

Also, can we table the discussion on verbing please?

 

[Guest Lobo]

3 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

A lot of people are saying that nobody loves trees more than turmp. A lot of people didn't know that.

 

He actually does really celebrate trees more than any other President since Teddy Roosevelt.  On Arbor Day, each year, he allows Tiffany Trump to eat with the family.  

[RDCanecutter 26457]

2 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Also, can we table the discussion on verbing please?

 

Agreed. Let's synthesize process-based conversation in data-driven replies, and leverage open-ended synergies through the use of centers.