A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[chainsaw 9867]

1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

You laugh but have you been watching BET? They are absolutely beside themselves with grief over this raid.

[Ted Lange 16085]

Yes, because the cops didnt shoot everyone

[BrickHorn 18230]

32 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

They talk a lot of shit, but at the end of the day, they go home to their double-wides or the poorly-constructed McMansions that still have many years to be paid off because they are living paycheck-to-paychekc

This continues to be the worst take by a non-right wing poster on this board. I mean, I hope you’re correct. But your view is clouded by the American 20th Century bubble of prosperity and stability, and is inconsistent with history, human nature, and recent circumstances. 

People don’t just fucking randomly riot. Not even people who are generally angry and disgruntled. They need a catalyst. Some event to bring them together at the same time and place. 

There’s a reason the insurrection happened on January 6, specifically. And it’s not surprising at all that no major populist political violence has happened since, despite rising anger and divisiveness. But that doesn’t mean it won’t happen in the future or that potential catalyzing events like an indictment or trial of Trump or an election will trigger a new wave of violence.

Dismissing the right wing as harmless because they’re fat and lazy might feel good, but you’re whistling past the graveyard. 

[Pig Bellmont 8717]

 

[chainsaw 9867]

1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

Yes, because the cops didnt shoot everyone

Black America speaks with one voice, and that voice belongs to the Dilbert guy.

[aggie08 21501]

Azbadlands, serious question: do you frequent the Gateway Pundit? If so, please stop. I'm begging you. I'm not saying that you need to binge MSNBC or anything like that. Just drop that bookmark from your life. For your sanity and your health.

 

[Js1 85321]

STOP RE-LITIGATING 2020. TRUMP FUCKING LOST AND IT WILL NEVER CHANGE

[Bullneck 19084]

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POLITICS

Judge Orders Giuliani To Testify In Atlanta Election Probe

A judge said that Giuliani must appear in person to testify before a special grand jury that’s investigating whether President Trump and others illegally tried to influence the 2020 election in Georgia.

 

 

 

[wildcat09 29354]

2 hours ago, Azbadlands said:

Well I guess we should just turn it into a 3rd world country with a Dictator and none of us will be able to question major statistical anomolies in elections at all?  And, you are right, this country is going into the shitter quickly....

Were you born this stupid or did you suffer a traumatic brain injury?

[chainsaw 9867]

Just now, Bullneck said:

 

 

 

Hope nobody is in his blast zone when he does

[Pig Bellmont 8717]

6 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This continues to be the worst take by a non-right wing poster on this board. I mean, I hope you’re correct. But your view is clouded by the American 20th Century bubble of prosperity and stability, and is inconsistent with history, human nature, and recent circumstances. 

People don’t just fucking randomly riot. Not even people who are generally angry and disgruntled. They need a catalyst. Some event to bring them together at the same time and place. 

There’s a reason the insurrection happened on January 6, specifically. And it’s not surprising at all that no major populist political violence has happened since, despite rising anger and divisiveness. But that doesn’t mean it won’t happen in the future or that potential catalyzing events like an indictment or trial of Trump or an election will trigger a new wave of violence.

Dismissing the right wing as harmless because they’re fat and lazy might feel good, but you’re whistling past the graveyard. 

Yeah - the threat for violence is super real. 

For example, I’d take all these users seriously:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mar-lago-search-users-trump-forums-agitate-civil-war-jan-6-rioter-rcna42148

[Nivek 16928]

1 hour ago, Azbadlands said:

I totally agree, and don't condone the actions of those people and don't even know any of their political affiliation or motives.  

I'm just saying a lot of people like myself have moved own and "accepted" the results of the election but still have questions with no answers about all of the anomolies in the election that do not make sense.  But, we are asked to accept it and I have accepted it for the good of the country as 3rd worldish as that sounds.

I wish that Capitol event had never happened though.

 

I have a challenge for you.  If you post the anomalies and where you learned about such anomalies and if they can be debunked, will you agree to never watch or trust in those sources again?  

 

 

[kevwun 15783]

There's a 99.99% chance y'all are being trolled.

Edited August 9, 2022 by kevwun

[Ted Lange 16085]

Edited August 9, 2022 by Ted Lange

[David Dennison 18856]

2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I have a challenge for you.  If you post the anomalies and where you learned about such anomalies and if they can be debunked, will you agree to never watch or trust in those sources again?  

You mean the anomalies that were debunked by every post-election lawsuit? Those anomalies?

Edited August 9, 2022 by David Dennison

[chainsaw 9867]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You mean the anomalies that were debunked by every post-election lawsuit? Those anomalies?

Don't you get it? A massive bamboozle happened and he's the only person who understands it. All dissenting opinions come from brainwashed sheeple who believe the MSM.

[BrickHorn 18230]

22 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Lenny Dykstra named his synagogue.

I’m starting to think Hillary was onto something with that whole “basket of deplorables” comment.

[Nivek 16928]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You mean the anomalies that were debunked by every post-election lawsuit? Those anomalies?

Yes.  I want to him to agree that if the lies he has been told about election anomalies will result in him deciding to stop watching  reading sources that obviously lie to him.   Though I can already tell you the answer to that.  

[Ted Lange 16085]

 

[Bullneck 19084]

11 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Here's more from legal scholar Bill Crane III:

 

 

[TwiceHorn 31457]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Seems like many shots have been taken already, all misses.  
 

 

Actually, almost none.  I don't count Mueller or the impeachments, because the outcome in both was foreordained.  Not predictable, but foreordained.

Indeed, I'm not aware of any criminal shots that have ever been taken at Trump.

[chainsaw 9867]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Actually, almost none.  I don't count Mueller or the impeachments, because the outcome in both was foreordained.  Not predictable, but foreordained.

Indeed, I'm not aware of any criminal shots that have ever been taken at Trump.

That doesn't matter to the MAGA heads.

[fuggled 576]

55 minutes ago, Azbadlands said:

I can name a couple of many anomolies in the election that make no sense to me.  

1st how did Biden get to 81 million votes without taking any from Trump?  Trump actually got more votes too than his first election.  That never happened in history...

2nd How did Trump win all but one of the 19 Belweather counties and both of the Belweather states and still lose?  

Can you clear those up for me?  

 

 

Ask and ye shall receive:  https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-did-all-the-bellwether-counties-go/

 

Now the question back to you is, what do you make of that?  Do you read that article and conclude it is a well researched analysis of an evolving electorate that helps us understand this particular "anomaly", or is it more likely that we just haven't uncovered the fraud yet?

[atomheartbevo 89659]

11 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This continues to be the worst take by a non-right wing poster on this board. I mean, I hope you’re correct. But your view is clouded by the American 20th Century bubble of prosperity and stability, and is inconsistent with history, human nature, and recent circumstances. 

People don’t just fucking randomly riot. Not even people who are generally angry and disgruntled. They need a catalyst. Some event to bring them together at the same time and place. 

Trump has spent two years loudly claiming that either the election and the White House would be stolen from him, or post-November 2020, that it was stolen from him.

If the Democrats rigging and stealing the election and the Presidency from Trump is not a catalyst, then what is?  

16 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

There’s a reason the insurrection happened on January 6, specifically. And it’s not surprising at all that no major populist political violence has happened since, despite rising anger and divisiveness. But that doesn’t mean it won’t happen in the future or that potential catalyzing events like an indictment or trial of Trump or an election will trigger a new wave of violence.

Dismissing the right wing as harmless because they’re fat and lazy might feel good, but you’re whistling past the graveyard. 

Yes it happened on January 6th, because the biggest idiots amongst his followers bought into his bullshit with the end result that 900 of them found out, making the rest of his followers extremely wary of fucking around.  And keep in mind that only a handful died, and only one of gunshot wounds.  The rest of his 74 million voters have made the decision that the risk of jail time or lost jobs or even death was enough for them not to fuck around.

He has spent the last 18 months taking these people's money and telling them that he was robbed.  If the Government of the United States of America being stolen  by librools in November of 2020 is not enough to get them off their asses, then what is?

What is the magic catalyst BH?  Trump in handcuffs?  We know that's not going to happen. Trump being fined by the feds for fucking around with documents?   His tax records being release?  The State of NY/NYC/SEC fining him a bunch of money for financial shenanigans with his property values? 

If him having the White House stolen in these people's minds is not the catalyst, then what is?

[DDD Dad 14339]

2 hours ago, WBT said:

Your detective show ripped off Strangers on a Train.

 

[Ted Lange 16085]

 

['stache 21813]

3 minutes ago, fuggled said:

Ask and ye shall receive:  https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-did-all-the-bellwether-counties-go/

 

Now the question back to you is, what do you make of that?  Do you read that article and conclude it is a well researched analysis of an evolving electorate that helps us understand this particular "anomaly", or is it more likely that we just haven't uncovered the fraud yet?

I'm fine with people pushing back, but you know he didn't ask any of that in good faith. It's literally all there with a google search. It was all very cleanly and consisely addressed during the Jan. 6 hearing. Bill Barr flat out said the "questions" over "anomalies" were complete bullshit, and the ones that were even remotely plausible were investigated and nothing found wrong. Each and every supposed "anomaly" has been addressed. It's all publicly available at every corner of the internet. They don't believe it because they don't want to, so none of these facts or analyses matter. I assume he'll come up with something else because they just can't help themselves, and imma will give him the banhammer, because fuck these disingenuous fuckwads. 

[TwiceHorn 31457]

2 hours ago, gmr548 said:

Most “independents” are not true independents. The slice of the electorate that actually flips between parties or splits tickets is ~10%, tops.

I think it’s probably fair to say that the number of independents that voted Trump in 2020, after four years of watching him in office, that would ever abandon him is probably very small.

I think the bold is where you are wrong.  A goodly percentage didn't watch and just had a vague impression that he was being picked on.

But 1/6 and the going on 24 months of the big lie, and they're starting to notice that their man is a little  . . .  problematic.

[wildcat09 29354]

Atom refuses to learn despite a shitload of evidence that BrickHorn is right. He was saying all this "they'll never really do anything!" shit before 1/6 too. Then 1/6 happened and he immediately moved on to "they'll never really do it again!" Because he fundamentally doesn't understand how this shit works. 

They're not going to organize into one clear and obvious opposing army. They'll just keep doing what they've been doing: carrying out a lot of "lone wolf" attacks on public places and occasionally organizing in larger groups to carry out more coordinated violence against LGBTQ and minority communities. As they get angrier, the frequency with which they do both will continue to increase. 

[Beau Vine 54220]

1 hour ago, Azbadlands said:

1st how did Biden get to 81 million votes without taking any from Trump?  Trump actually got more votes too than his first election. 

Because millions and millions of people like me, who hate both parties and are not politically engaged, came out of the woodworks to vote for Biden against Trump.

[chainsaw 9867]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

Trump has spent two years loudly claiming that either the election and the White House would be stolen from him, or post-November 2020, that it was stolen from him.

If the Democrats rigging and stealing the election and the Presidency from Trump is not a catalyst, then what is?  

Yes it happened on January 6th, because the biggest idiots amongst his followers bought into his bullshit with the end result that 900 of them found out, making the rest of his followers extremely wary of fucking around.  And keep in mind that only a handful died, and only one of gunshot wounds.  The rest of his 74 million voters have made the decision that the risk of jail time or lost jobs or even death was enough for them not to fuck around.

He has spent the last 18 months taking these people's money and telling them that he was robbed.  If the Government of the United States of America being stolen  by librools in November of 2020 is not enough to get them off their asses, then what is?

What is the magic catalyst BH?  Trump in handcuffs?  We know that's not going to happen. Trump being fined by the feds for fucking around with documents?   His tax records being release?  The State of NY/NYC/SEC fining him a bunch of money for financial shenanigans with his property values? 

If him having the White House stolen in these people's minds is not the catalyst, then what is?

The people who are very lost in the sauce, deep down all feel like failures in life. They need an outlet for their repressed shame, anger, whatever you want to call it. The MAGA movement gave them that outlet.

Ultimately, they don't have the discipline or cohesion to do anything more than throw tantrums. That's all a "Trump Rally" is, and it's not even all that new. CPAC has been around for a long time, but until very recently those events only attracted YCT country club type dorks like Ben Shapiro.

Think back to J6. Let's be generous and say 10,000 people showed up for the tantrum. Maybe 1,000 or 2,000 actually tried to storm the capitol building. Besides "oath keepers" and some other militia types that have always been a part of America (fuck you to Tim McVeigh) most of the horde were people who showed up for the tantrum and had absolutely no real plan besides getting into the building and trying to disrupt the certification by any means (including deadly means) they felt necessary.

There aren't enough of these clowns willing to do anything that requires more of them than attention-seeking shitposting or partygoing. They want orange slices, not two-a-days.

[A-Tex Devil 2446]

If Trump is indicted/arrested, I'll honestly be a little surprised if we don't see some disorganized protest across the country that may require a little deterrence here and there.  Should be an interesting dynamic.  

[TexArcher 37774]

I'll set the over/under on gigs of kiddie porn on Jesse Watters' personal laptop at 14.5.

 

 

1 minute ago, A-Tex Devil said:

If Trump is indicted/arrested, I'll honestly be a little surprised if we don't see some disorganized protest across the country that may require a little deterrence here and there.  Should be an interesting dynamic.  

I'm fairly confident it'll be worse than that.  Maybe a lot worse.

 

Edited August 9, 2022 by TexArcher
New merge posts feature sucks cacks

[Bullneck 19084]

10 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Don't you get it? A massive bamboozle happened and he's the only person who understands it. All dissenting opinions come from brainwashed sheeple who believe the MSM.

 

 

[BrickHorn 18230]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If the Democrats rigging and stealing the election and the Presidency from Trump is not a catalyst, then what is?  

It was. That’s why we got January 6. Trump convinced his rubes that Dems would steal the election on January 6. So they rioted and attempted to prevent certification. On the specific date where gathering in DC would put them in a position to do so.

That attempt fizzled. After a failed coup, it takes time to regroup and regain the courage and outrage. So many of those dipshits didn’t actually realize what they were doing. They initially reacted with shock and even a bit of guilt. Over time, those reasonable reactions subsided and now they’re at the “we didn’t do anything wrong on January 6 except stop short of our objective” phase. The powder keg is ready for another match.

No one can predict what the precise catalyst may be. But it would be something specific (a jury verdict against Trump; a disappointing election night; or god forbid, a lone wolf terror attack or assassination attempt) that ignites the mob and sends them to action. Trump generally bitching into the ether doesn’t fit the bill. 

[Bullneck 19084]

4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I'll set the over/under on gigs of kiddie porn on Jesse Watters' personal laptop at 14.5.

Dammit, it's so tough when the house sets the line with that extra 1/2 point.  

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

 

[TwiceHorn 31457]

7 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

It was. That’s why we got January 6. Trump convinced his rubes that Dems would steal the election on January 6. So they rioted and attempted to prevent certification. On the specific date where gathering in DC would put them in a position to do so.

That attempt fizzled. After a failed coup, it takes time to regroup and regain the courage and outrage. So many of those dipshits didn’t actually realize what they were doing. They initially reacted with shock and even a bit of guilt. Over time, those reasonable reactions subsided and now they’re at the “we didn’t do anything wrong on January 6 except stop short of our objective” phase. The powder keg is ready for another match.

No one can predict what the precise catalyst may be. But it would be something specific (a jury verdict against Trump; a disappointing election night; or god forbid, a lone wolf terror attack or assassination attempt) that ignites the mob and sends them to action. Trump generally bitching into the ether doesn’t fit the bill. 

I think you're both right.  Trump was generally bitching into the ether on 1/6, with an ulterior motive, and it catalyzed the morons.   

But, although the morons were semi-effective, they ultimately failed at their objective.  They were, for the most part, disorganized and without any sort of real plan.  I'd bet very few of them understood Trump's intentions.

So, yeah, they can be catalyzed again.  And there will likely be violence and bloodshed.  But a question remains as to how effectual they will be.

Edited August 9, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[chainsaw 9867]

1 minute ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

 

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1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52493]

11 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

If Trump is indicted/arrested, I'll honestly be a little surprised if we don't see some disorganized protest across the country that may require a little deterrence here and there.  Should be an interesting dynamic.  

After their vocal denunciation of the blm protests and the riots/violence that was sprinkled in, I can’t imagine they’d be anything other than peaceful protests within the designated areas and with the proper permits. 

[Beau Vine 54220]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I think you're both right.  Trump was generally bitching into the ether on 1/6, with an ulterior motive, and it catalyzed the morons.   

But, although the morons were semi-effective, they ultimately failed at their objective.

So, yeah, they can be catalyzed again.  And there will likely be violence and bloodshed.  But a question remains as to how effectual they will be.

Not gonna lie, I want to see Trump get arrested and see the gravy seals show up to the jail to bust him out.

[Mole 4330]

I’m no math whiz, but if I labeled a coin with one side D and the other R and flipped it each Presidential election to predict the winner, the odds of getting it right each time would be 1/1024. If instead of just 1 coin, I flipped 3000 coins every 4 years, I’d probably get a few coins to predict every election.

“Belwether” coins if you will. Would those few coins have predictive qualities the next election? If they failed to accurately predict the next election, would you assume fraud or just a dumb way to predict elections?

[Hmbre97 6308]

2 minutes ago, Mole said:

I’m no math whiz, but if I labeled a coin with one side D and the other R and flipped it each Presidential election to predict the winner, the odds of getting it right each time would be 1/1024. If instead of just 1 coin, I flipped 3000 coins every 4 years, I’d probably get a few coins to predict every election.

“Belwether” coins if you will. Would those few coins have predictive qualities the next election? If they failed to accurately predict the next election, would you assume fraud or just a dumb way to predict elections?

[chainsaw 9867]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Not gonna lie, I want to see Trump get arrested and see the gravy seals show up to the jail to bust him out.

It won't be gravys so much as crooked cops from crooked cop unions working with white supremacist prison gangs

[Bullneck 19084]

11 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

 

I got you

[elfenix 34238]

 

[Goredho 17402]

20 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

Whoa, he commits crimes like us, too?  FUCK YEAH!  MAGA!

[sidis 9828]

1 hour ago, sidis said:

2) there is only one bellwether county that has not deviated from the outcome since 1980 so your notion of 19 bellwether counties being predictive is premised on bad information.  in terms of counties that have only deviated from the national results once since 1980, hillary clinton won 14 of them.  does that somehow demonstrate to you that the 2016 election was anomalous overall?  demographics and political preferences change, bellwether areas can cease to be bellwether areas for all sorts of entirely benign reasons.

1) if you are asking this in good faith - i genuinely can't tell - then the answer lies in voter turnout numbers.  approximately 23 million more people voted in 2020 (historically highest turnout ever) than in 2016 in which there was low voter enthusiasm.  in 2016, 136.7 million people voted.  in 2020, 159.7 million people voted.

does that sufficiently answer your questions?

@Azbadlands

thoughts?  are you still having issues with the outcome you accepted?

[atomheartbevo 89659]

4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Atom refuses to learn despite a shitload of evidence that BrickHorn is right. He was saying all this "they'll never really do anything!" shit before 1/6 too. Then 1/6 happened and he immediately moved on to "they'll never really do it again!" Because he fundamentally doesn't understand how this shit works. 

2,000 of his 74 million voters fucked around on 1/6, and 900+ of them (and counting) have found out with records, prison time, lost jobs, etc., (minus a couple with their lives).  The fact that so many of them turned on one another to get their sentences or charges or whatever reduced speaks volumes about their lack of commitment.  

These motherfuckers were supposed to be the hardest of Trump's hardcore supporters, only to see a shitload of them turn state's evidence against one another. 

As a whole, these people are fucking pussies compared to the Vietnam protestors, the '68 Democrat Convention protestors, the Civil Rights protestors, etc

4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

They're not going to organize into one clear and obvious opposing army. They'll just keep doing what they've been doing: carrying out a lot of "lone wolf" attacks and occasionally organizing in larger groups to carry out more coordinated violence against LGBTQ and minority communities. As they get angrier, the frequency with which they do both will continue to increase.

I don't know if you're being ironic or not, but that's what I've been saying.  As a group, they blew their wad on 1/6, and what we have left that might take action are the ones we have always had to worry about - the mentally ill lone-wolf types.   

They won't organize into "larger groups to carry out more coordinated violence against LGBTQ and minority communities", at least the ones who aren't wearing badges won't.