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To be fair, President Trump’s four years in office weren’t so bad, except when when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

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Y’all about to get a great visual representation of Cullman, Alabama. Only good things to come out of Cullman are the Britt brothers (Roll Tide!) and orange rolls from All Steak restaurant. That pla

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You seem really pissed off for a nontrumper.  Just laugh at the trumpers, bro.  They’re really gullible dumbfucks who worship this orange blob…you know, people completely unlike yourself.  

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So the simplest of questions. Where did the GSA folks get these documents to pack? Was this stuff laying around unsecure in the WH when the packers came?  This is stuff that should only be viewed in a SCIF, so if this was laying in the bottom drawer of the resolute desk and accidentally got packed… still a crime.  

Could it have been mentally "declassified" on the way out of a SCIF?

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36 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:


One of the hardest things in the world tor a human is to fully acknowledge and admit publicly they got duped. If this keeps playing out just take the win and enjoy the silence.

Shunning them back into silence like during the Obama administration would be fantastic. Then let’s take it another level.

 

47 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

So how long do our surly brothers who have the requisite defects of intellect and character to still vote for the GOP remain shut the fuck up? 3 days before they’re back acting like it is people other than them who are childlike and without even the wisdom you would expect from a horny 19 year old?

There comes a point where it should be unanimous this piece of shit belongs in prison, not bush or Reagan not Obama or Clinton (either him or her) not Biden just him. Unequivocal. Shut the fuck up get in line or GTFO.  There is room for conversation about policy there is no room for conversation about presidential espionage and treason. Rot in hell mother fucker. 

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52 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

So how long do our surly brothers who have the requisite defects of intellect and character to still vote for the GOP remain shut the fuck up? 3 days before they’re back acting like it is people other than them who are childlike and without even the wisdom you would expect from a horny 19 year old?

Republicans are dishonest.  With themselves and everyone else.   So I'll take the under on the 3 days.

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2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I think they must be more directly tied to the GOP criminal organization than I originally thought. I concluded what I did about the GOP because I can only explain their toxic stances and actions by assuming they're trying to stay out of prison. That also explains their omertà which the Jan 6 Committee is beginning to break down. 

FOX really doesn't need to go so deep in Trump's defense for ratings. They're not just raising questions from the clips I've seen posted, they're flat out lying about the search of Mar al Lardo and doing so with panels of every on air liar they employ. Why?

We know Hannity and others had direct access to President Trump to advise him. Were they behind the coup until it went bad? Was it their culpability that caused them to text (for the record) Trump to say call it off? If Trump had been successful in bullying Pence to disrupt the certification with help from the elected traitors in the joint meeting, had FOX agreed to make the case that the coup was legal and right?

In a coup or rebellion, the first things you take over are the radio and TV stations.

The hideous stink broadens.

 

 

They're not just defending him--they're complicit.  Nobody in power is just defending this turd unless they're complicit.  Those that aren't are publicly stating a wait and see approach while those that have committed crimes are trying to burn it down.  

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3 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

They're not just defending him--they're complicit.  Nobody in power is just defending this turd unless they're complicit.  Those that aren't are publicly stating a wait and see approach while those that have committed crimes are trying to burn it down.  

Fox is raking in the money right now. "sources" can say that "Murdoch disapproves of Trump in private" all they want, it's not true--Murdoch will milk that cow as long as it produces.

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7 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

Republicans are dishonest.  With themselves and everyone else.   So I'll take the under on the 3 days.

Anyone with anything to save their own skins probably has an attorney on the phone to the DoJ or FBI now.  You don't want to be last.

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Purely theoretically speaking, if someone here has a connection to Brian Kilmeade, that someone could send Brian a dm and discuss what a great attorney aggiehawg would be for Trump and urge Brian to let them know aggiehawg is waiting and eager for their call.

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6 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

Is Melania measuring the curtains for his cell? 

Wonder if she's going to go with red or a wine color?  

As stated all along the way, Dotard's followers operate on faith, which doesn't require proof.  That makes them a cult of True Believers.  And facts don't require faith.  

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20 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Wait until they bring out the black light....

How did donkey sperm get on these missile specs and manufacturing documents, sir? Mr. President? With all due respect, sir, please answer the donkey sperm question. 

And why was a La Toya Jackson lookalike even allowed within the vicinity of these documents? And not that it'd be more appropriate or legal, and just out of curiosity, why not the real La Toya Jackson? Seems like she'd be attainable. Yes, moving forward. I apologize for the tangent. Back to brass tacks. Let's talk donkey sperm.

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25 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

So the simplest of questions. Where did the GSA folks get these documents to pack? Was this stuff laying around unsecure in the WH when the packers came?  This is stuff that should only be viewed in a SCIF, so if this was laying in the bottom drawer of the resolute desk and accidentally got packed… still a crime.  

More questions, did this classified info have the required document covers that prevents accidental reading and clearly marks the item as classified?  If the GSA employee can enter the WH and pack up stuff in the WH, it’s almost certain they have a clearance. With a clearance you get annual refresher training on handling and storage of classified material. Someone with that training would know you don’t put classified shit into cardboard boxes in the back of a truck for transportation. It requires a courier card, document carrier, etc. Were archivists also not present for this packing of material to ensure that presidential material wouldn’t accidentally be shipped to MAL?  An archivist didn’t recognize classified markings on documents?  

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

I think he's off base with throwing out treason even as a remote possibility but I didn't put the timing of the video subpoena together with the timeline. This article (spoilered) lays out the details.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/12/john-solomon-and-kash-patel-may-be-implicated-in-the-trump-related-espionage-act-investigation/

 

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On June 22, Kash Patel announced that he had just been made a representative for Trump at the National Archives. (h/t to Suburban Gal for these links)

I can tell you now that I am now officially a representative for Donald Trump at the National Archives. And I’m going to march down there — I’ve never told anyone this, because it just happened, and I’m going to identify every single document that they blocked from being declassified at the National Archives.

The next day, Kash described that that letter, making him Trump’s representative to the Archives, “just came in, literally before I came on the show” the day before.

As it happens, June 22 is also the same day that the FBI sent a subpoena to Mar-a-Lago for surveillance footage.

On June 22, the Trump Organization, the name for Mr. Trump’s family business, received a subpoena for surveillance footage from cameras at Mar-a-Lago. That footage was turned over, according to an official.

According to a John Solomon column that was actually the first to report details of this purported cooperation in June, the subpoena specifically asked for surveillance videos covering the room where Trump had stashed his stolen documents.

Around the same time, the Trump Organization, which owns Mar-a-Lago, received a request for surveillance video footage covering the locker and volunteered the footage to federal authorities, sources disclosed.

On June 24, two days after DOJ sent a subpoena for the surveillance footage, Betsy Woodruff Swan reported that it wasn’t just Kash who had been given privileged access to Trump’s Archives. Solomon had also been made Trump’s representative at the Archives.

That seeming coincidence — that the FBI formally asked for surveillance videos showing who had accessed Trump’s stash of stolen records on the same day that Kash and Solomon were officially added to the list of those who represented Trump’s interests with the Archives — may raise the stakes of Trump’s legal exposure significantly.

That’s because if Trump deliberately allowed people not permitted access to classified documents or his negligence allowed people to remove such documents, it would trigger other parts of the Espionage Act than the one that prohibits someone from stealing classified documents and refusing to give them back (and all are covered by the warrant).

(d)Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

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(f)Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Neither of these men would have been authorized to access classified documents, if they did, after January 20, 2021.

Solomon, of course, has come under scrutiny for his role as a mouthpiece for Russian-backed attacks on Joe Biden. While DOJ was not known to have obtained a warrant on him by April 2021, much could have happened after that.

Kash Patel did have the top levels of clearance until Trump left office. But at least by April 2021, Kash was reported to be under investigation for leaking classified information.

Patel repeatedly pressed intelligence agencies to release secrets that, in his view, showed that the president was being persecuted unfairly by critics. Ironically, he is now facing Justice Department investigation for possible improper disclosure of classified information, according to two knowledgeable sources who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe. The sources said the investigation resulted from a complaint made this year by an intelligence agency, but wouldn’t provide additional details.

Once that investigation was predicated, Kash would have been stripped of clearance, if he hadn’t already been.

Which means both the men that Trump picked to dig through his documents would pose grave security concerns.

And Kash, at least, is the single witness claiming — belatedly, starting in May — that Trump declassified this information. Before much of this became public, Kash claimed Trump had declassified it all, but just not marked it as declassified.

“Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves,” Patel told Breitbart News in a phone interview.

“The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t declassified,” Patel said. “I was there with President Trump when he said ‘We are declassifying this information.’”

“This story is just another disinformation campaign designed to break the public trust in a president that lived on transparency. It’s yet another way to attack Trump and say he took classified information when he did not,” he added.

At the point he made those claims, in May, Kash demonstrated extensive familiarity with the content of that first batch of stolen classified documents that had been stashed at Mar-a-Lago for a year.

Patel did not want to get into what the specific documents were, predicting claims from the left that he was disclosing “classified” material, but said, “It’s information that Trump felt spoke to matters regarding everything from Russiagate to the Ukraine impeachment fiasco to major national security matters of great public importance — anything the president felt the American people had a right to know is in there and more.”

If Kash knows that first-hand — if Kash knows that because Trump let him wade through Top Secret documents he was no longer cleared to access — then Trump may have additional criminal liability.

 

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4 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Purely theoretically speaking, if someone here has a connection to Brian Kilmeade, that someone could send Brian a dm and discuss what a great attorney aggiehawg would be for Trump and urge Brian to let them know aggiehawg is waiting and eager for their call.

I think that aggiehawg has a connection to the legal field in some way, but I don't know  what it is. The posters there seem to star the posts a lot.

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28 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

You can see the neck and forehead lines where it was cut--the lines show a shade shift.  First thing I thought when I saw it was this is doctored.  It's garbage.  

I think it acutally is an original photo the judge posted himself:

Fox airs fake photo of Trump search judge getting massage by Ghislaine Maxwell | Boing Boing

 

Here is the original Epstein photo:

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I think you're attaching way too much importance to how the photo was marked with the word "meme." That mere fact doesn't communicate or represent that the photo is fake. Especially, if that is not how it was presented on the show. 

No shit.

The old white men like my dad who mainline Fox News don’t know what a fucking meme is. Shit, I bet most Americans don’t know what a meme is either.

Just because we’re all terminally very online people we assume everyone else is too.
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and here's the clip from the fox show last night. Yes, it does have a meme identifier but also Kilmeade calls it a picture of the judge. (hilarious that the judge put the original pic out himself)...Was he defamed even if he had been clearly alleged to have received a foot massage on a private jet with Ghislaine?

 

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1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

I’m cry laughing at the thought of this guy turning up his nose with haughty righteousness as he declares that treason is his red line.  Anything up to treason - like murdering someone on 5th Avenue - is still cool.  But the absolute worst thing a President could do, the one thing that is so severely harmful it is punishable by death?  Well, in that case I would have to reconsider my support.   What an honorable patriot!  That is a man with principles.

Oh, and I’m also cry laughing at the fact that he would clearly reverse himself and excuse treason if/when it comes out that Trump committed treason.

Well, then there's the fact that this probably isn't actually treason.  So that's a nice out.

People need to quit throwing that word around.

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36 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I think it acutally is an original photo the judge posted himself:

Fox airs fake photo of Trump search judge getting massage by Ghislaine Maxwell | Boing Boing

 

Here is the original Epstein photo:

UHQTC24KFRH5NOWY4VUKZ6C2LA.JPG

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There seems to just be a huge difference in quality between the images, which is intentional I guess. 

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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I see we’re at the espionage is treacherous but not technically treason discourse. 

Well, treason does have a pretty specific meaning, particularly in the context of crimes.

That whole law thing is just full of technicalities.

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18 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

The neighbor is lying. He's ride-or-die Trumpkin.

Crazy how crime just seems to follow Trump and victimize him.  Prior to running, hookers and adultery, bone spurs and bad real estate deals seemed to embroil him.  He's a lightning rod to multiple forms of corruption and crime apparently.   The man is just a mark so we elected him.  And then more corruption and crime tried to take him down while those criminal Democrats that are always being investigated are running free.  

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