A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

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3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

How old is Melania again? 

It doesn’t matter 

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

How old is Melania again? 

The GOP mainstream doesn't care. They will accuse anyone of anything if it will feed the rage jones.

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4 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

It doesn’t matter 

 

2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

The GOP mainstream doesn't care. They will accuse anyone of anything if it will feed the rage jones.

They're definitely probably perverts.  

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20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

How old is Melania again? 

Not quite 7 1/2 in dog years. 

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7 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

The media and everyone else needs to stop falling for Trump’s “flood the zone with bullshit” tactics.

Yes. This endless examination of whether the President has plenary power to declassify documents is the kind of distraction that TV news panel shows dwell on. They like to do it because they feel like they can get to a "fact" in the matter. This fact is a sideshow. A distraction. The trees blocking one's view of the forest.

Donald Trump removed papers from the White House that belong to the Archives. He haggled for a year and claimed that he'd returned them all. He lied to federal authorities. He retained documents including state secrets. Why?

What was he doing with them? Why was he doing it in secret? Why were they so poorly secured that adding a padlock was considered an enormous upgrade? Why were they moving in and out of the storage location?

How might all of this benefit Trump? 

How might all of this been done to the detriment of the United States?

Chasing your tails about ultimate authority to declassify is largely an academic exercise. 

He stole. 

He lied to law enforcment (again, Martha Stewart's horrible crime).

He likely held nuclear secrets, his criminal security advisor (Flynn) tried to get related material to Saudi Arabia, the Saudis recently gave Trump's family $2 Billion in addition to a river of money flowing to Trump by such means as booking an entire Trump hotel and not using the rooms and starting a new golf league. Isn't there some law against profitting from you position in government? It gets named around here all the time.

Rather than focus on whether he might have had the power to declassify anything no matter the consequences and no matter what process he may have used, focus on the real crimes.

Are there not laws forbidding actions detrimental to the US? Are there not laws about aiding potential enemies of the US (what if he shared these documents with Russia?)? 

What was he up to is more important than what, in theory, he may have been able to do to technically change the status of documents that could be used against the US. 

And we play into his bloody, tiny hands when we follow every tangent. 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

This isn't some conspiracy. It's adults dealing with a spoiled child.

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Mid June 2022: The Justice Department subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago recorded over a 60-day period, including views from outside the storage room. The footage showed that, after one instance in which Justice Department officials were in contact with Mr. Trump’s team, boxes were moved in and out of the room.

Holy shit

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42 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Counterpoint is that POTUS is just the tie breaker and not any more of an ultimate authority than the VP is on Senate votes other than ties. And just because those positions are under him doesn't mean that POTUS can perform their duties for them. It's possible that they both refuse his order to declassify (and of course get fired and replaced, but maybe in another non-MAGAt universe what he's asking is so crazy that he can't find anyone who will do it).

I just would not want to be in court and offering the argument that POTUS cannot declassify something without getting the go-ahead from one of his own appointees in the executive branch. Constitutionally, the executive branch is only one person. 

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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I just would not want to be in court and offering the argument that POTUS cannot declassify something without getting the go-ahead from one of his own appointees in the executive branch. Constitutionally, the executive branch is only one person. 

The argument won’t reach a court because the official process was never undertaken. Also, it doesn’t matter 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

This isn't some conspiracy. It's adults dealing with a spoiled child.

January 2022: Fifteen boxes of presidential records are retrieved from Mar-a-Lago in a transfer arranged by the National Archives and Records Administration. 

Feb. 18, 2022: Classified information was found in the 15 boxes of White House records that had been stored at Mar-a-Lago, the National Archives and Records Administration says.  It also confirmed that the matter had been sent to the Justice Department.

Feb. 25, 2022: The House Committee on Oversight and Reform seeks additional documents from the National Archives as part of its investigation into Trump’s handling of White House records. 

Spring 2022: Investigators from the Justice Department and FBI visit Mar-a-Lago to get more information about classified materials taken to Florida. Federal officials also served a subpoena for some documents believed to be at the estate.

(Trump Ignores Subpoena)

June 3, 2022: Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division, visits MAL and inspects the storage of documents. Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified

Mid June 2022: Trump lawyer sent signed statement that all documents marked as classified and held in boxes had been given back. 

Mid June 2022: The Justice Department subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago recorded over a 60-day period, including views from outside the storage room. The footage showed that, after one instance in which Justice Department officials were in contact with Mr. Trump’s team, boxes were moved in and out of the room.

Aug. 5, 2022: U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in South Florida approves an application for a search warrant, finding the FBI had probable cause to search Mar-a-Lago. 

Aug 8, 2022: The FBI executes the search at Mar-a-Lago 

Aug. 12, 2022: Judge Reinhart unseals the warrant that authorized the FBI to search Mar-a-Lago, along with court papers showing that agents recovered 11 sets of classified records. 

 

Trump: "Why didn't they just ask for the documents back??"

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

Jay Bratt is the head of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section of the DOJ's National Security Division. I googled it and he has been mentioned in previous articles. 

To me, the bigger concern is if they weren't listed in the inventory.  But maybe those inventories are just for the shit the FBI is keeping, not all the shit they took.  Or maybe it's not that detailed.  

 

Edit ---didn't read close enough.  Not sure who Jim is. 

I guess what's interesting to me is that there are people in Denver or elsewhere in MDT that are involved in the investigation and who screenshotted this

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4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I just would not want to be in court and offering the argument that POTUS cannot declassify something without getting the go-ahead from one of his own appointees in the executive branch. Constitutionally, the executive branch is only one person. 

Can POTUS charge people with crimes?

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22 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

 

i've said this a number of times, but that is what is most amazing about all this.  a mother freaking president of the united states doesn't have the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of top lawyers falling over themselves to represent him.  it's just incredible.  think of any legal fight a president has been in in the past.  it's the absolute cream of the crop representing him as should be expected. 

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i've said this a number of times, but that is what is most amazing about all this.  a mother freaking president of the united states doesn't have the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of top lawyers falling over themselves to represent him.  it's just incredible.  think of any legal fight a president has been in in the past.  it's the absolute cream of the crop representing him as should be expected. 

I always love representing clients who lie so much I wouldn’t believe them if they said the sky was blue and also don’t pay their bills.

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This is excellent...

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Can POTUS charge people with crimes?

SCOTUS left the question as whether POTUS could direct individual prosecutions resolved in U.S. versus Nixon because no one really wanted to know the answer. If it was revisited we might not like the answer. And of course, defendants have much more constitutional protection than classified information. 

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

Maybe from a lawyer's perspective, they don't need a reason.  But as a citizen, yeah, they need a fucking reason.  You can't just have FBI agents deciding to confiscate passports. That's a bullshit position.  

Sounds like the FBI fucked up here.  But, per the email, it was two expired passports and one diplomatic one, so nothing that Trump could actually use. So, it's not really a big deal. 

 

I just paid something like $600 for 3 passports.  Based on this thread, they should be free!

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12 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I guess what's interesting to me is that there are people in Denver or elsewhere in MDT that are involved in the investigation and who screenshotted this

It's generally accepted that Denver has the best breakfast burritos. 

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Still a nothingburger. Not like he could use them

I don’t care about the passport. It’s a sideshow. I care that dotard was storing highly classified documents with his personal crap. And that maybe he was giving those highly classified documents to foreign adversaries. Perhaps why he had his passport with them. The rest is an irrelevant sideshow to detract from a former so called presidents selling out the nation and fomenting violence

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4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

 

 

 

That's kind of a jam right there ...

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6 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

 

 

 

Tucker's voice. I feel like that if someone spilled water on him he'd start screeching:

I'm melting! I'm melting! What a world! What a world!

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7 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Tucker's voice. I feel like that if someone spilled water on him he'd start screeching:

I'm melting! I'm melting! What a world! What a world!

When he hits that range, he’s scared.

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That's kind of a jam right there ...

Should be #1 with a bullet

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

Maybe from a lawyer's perspective, they don't need a reason.  But as a citizen, yeah, they need a fucking reason.  You can't just have FBI agents deciding to confiscate passports. That's a bullshit position.  

Sounds like the FBI fucked up here.  But, per the email, it was two expired passports and one diplomatic one, so nothing that Trump could actually use. So, it's not really a big deal. 

 

So, calm down a minute and think this through.   You've got FBI field agents, and they are collecting super-secret-spy shit.  Shit that they don't have the clearance to see.  They were instructed (as the warrant shows), that if they see any classified shit in a box, they should seize the entire box.  Because they (the field agents) aren't supposed to rummage through the secret-spy shit. 

So, they open a box full of shit, they flip through it, and they see "CLASSIFIED" marked on a single file, they close the box and load it onto the truck.  It's not their fault that the fat fuck had his passports in the same box with spy shit that he FUCKING STOLE from the white house. 

Currently, the Feds have qualified people going through all the shit that they seized, and they will undoubtedly return everything that isn't relevant to Dotard's crimes, such as the passports.  The fat orange fuck is trying to distract the morons from paying attention to his actual crimes by screaming "THEY TOOK MY PASSPORTS".   Don't be one of those morons. 

Edited August 16, 2022 by Gil Bang

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A team of computer experts directed by lawyers allied with President Donald Trump copied sensitive data from election systems in Georgia as part of a secretive, multistate effort to access voting equipment that was broader, more organized and more successful than previously reported, according to emails and other records obtained by The Washington Post.

As they worked to overturn Trump’s 2020 election defeat, the lawyers asked a forensic data firm to access county election systems in at least three battleground states, according to the documents and interviews. The firm charged an upfront retainer fee for each job, which in one case was $26,000.

Attorney Sidney Powell sent the team to Michigan to copy a rural county’s election data and later helped arrange for it to do the same in the Detroit area, according to the records. A Trump campaign attorney engaged the team to travel to Nevada. And the day after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol the team was in southern Georgia, copying data from a Dominion voting system in rural Coffee County.

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The emails and other records were collected through a subpoena issued to the forensics firm, Atlanta-based SullivanStrickler, by plaintiffs in a long-running lawsuit in federal court over the security of Georgia’s voting systems. The documents provide the first confirmation that data from Georgia’s election system was copied. Indications of a breach there were first raised by plaintiffs in the case in February, and state officials have said they are investigating.

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“The breach is way beyond what we thought,” said David D. Cross, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, who include voting-security activists and Georgia voters. “The scope of it is mind-blowing.”

A drumbeat of revelations about alleged security breaches in local elections offices has grown louder during the nearly two years since the 2020 election. There is growing concern among experts that officials sympathetic to Trump’s claims of vote-rigging could undermine election security in the name of protecting it.

The federal government classifies voting systems as “critical infrastructure,” important to national security, and access to their software and other components is tightly regulated. In several instances since 2020, officials have taken machines out of service after their chains of custody were disrupted.

State authorities have opened criminal investigations into alleged improper breaches of equipment in Michigan, a case that involves several people who appear in the new records. In Mesa County, Colo., a local elections official, Republican Tina Peters, was indicted on felony charges including conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation and attempting to influence a public servant.

In two counties, SullivanStrickler’s examinations were permitted by courts, though many details surrounding those efforts have not been public. The records show how Powell’s group discussed, exchanged and paid for elections-system data. The plaintiffs intend to bring them to the attention of the judge in the case and provide them to the FBI as well as state and local elections authorities in Georgia, Cross told The Post.

Emails reviewed by The Post show that Powell told SullivanStrickler to share data obtained by the firm with other pro-Trump operatives, some of whom continue to openly push conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.

Powell did not respond to messages seeking comment. SullivanStrickler also did not respond.

The documents shed new light on one front in the wide-ranging battle by Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election. The small team of lawyers and security contractors worked quietly to get their hands on the county-level equipment while others around Trump filed legal challenges, deployed protesters to Washington and lobbied Congress and Vice President Mike Pence to reject Joe Biden’s victory.

Trump and his advisers had quickly seized on voting machines as the sites of supposed fraud, making wild allegations of plots involving the makers of the machines and shadowy foreign forces. Numerous recounts and reviews have confirmed the accuracy of the machines used in 2020. Two manufacturers say their systems are secure and have filed billion-dollar defamation lawsuits that are pending against prominent sources of the disinformation.

Powell spearheaded the claims with lawsuits filed in swing states, some with fellow pro-Trump attorney L. Lin Wood Jr. Soon after the election, Powell huddled with other Trump associates for strategy talks around Thanksgiving at Wood’s South Carolina estate.

The following Monday, the documents show, Jim Penrose, a former intelligence official who had been at Wood’s estate, emailed two senior SullivanStrickler executives and others. Penrose helped arrange for people from the firm to travel by private jet to Nevada for what Penrose called an urgent “forensics engagement” and an “opportunity in NV.” The documents do not specify what the work entailed.

Attorney Jesse Binnall, an attorney for the Trump campaign, testifies during a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing to discuss election security and the 2020 election process on Dec. 16, 2020. (Greg Nash/Pool/The Hill)
Earlier that day Jesse Binnall, an outside counsel to Trump’s campaign who was suing to overturn the result in Nevada, won a court order granting limited access to “testing equipment and programs” in Clark County, which includes Las Vegas.

Binnall replied to the email group asking for a formal agreement that he could sign to authorize the work in Nevada. Among those copied on Binnall’s email were Powell, retired Army Col. Phil Waldron, who later circulated a PowerPoint presentation proposing the seizure of ballots, and Doug Logan, whose company Cyber Ninjas led a Republican review of the election in Arizona.

Binnall promptly signed the engagement agreement, the new records show, and investigators began work in Las Vegas the following day. But the day after that, Binnall complained in a court filing that his team had not been allowed to access certain equipment. He attached a supporting statement from SullivanStrickler’s director of forensics, Gregory Freemyer, though the statement did not identify Freemyer’s employer.

On Dec. 3, SullivanStrickler’s chief operations officer, Paul Maggio, sent Binnall an invoice for “the 2 days we spent in Las Vegas, NV in support of this matter.”

Binnall’s efforts to compel access to additional equipment were rejected by the judge in the case. The case was later dismissed. Binnall declined to comment for this story.

Also copied on some of the emails about Las Vegas was Brian T. Kennedy, a fellow at the Claremont Institute, a conservative think tank. The day after Maggio invoiced Binnall, Kennedy replied: “I spoke to Jesse and he said the payment is in process.”

Later, after Maggio also copied Binnall on another email about data examinations elsewhere, Penrose emailed him to say: “Please do not communicate about any additional forensics work in AZ to the other legal teams. Keep that in confidential channels with me, Sidney, and Doug only.” It is unclear what work in Arizona he was referring to.

Trump’s campaign and political action committee have paid Binnall’s law firm more than $1.5 million for legal consulting since the election, federal campaign filings show. Binnall is now representing Trump in litigation relating to the Jan. 6 attack.

Wood told The Post on Monday that he had no involvement in contracting SullivanStrickler. Penrose, Kennedy, Maggio and Logan did not respond to messages seeking comment.

A county election worker loads a ballot-counting machine at the Clark County Election Department in Las Vegas on Nov. 5, 2020. (Mikayla Whitmore for The Washington Post)
Network data purportedly obtained from Clark County, which includes Las Vegas, were presented at an August 2021 election-fraud symposium held by MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell in Sioux Falls, S.D., as The Post previously reported. That data was captured through a county guest wireless network, according to officials, and contained no sensitive information.

A Lindell ally who spoke at the symposium, Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, was later indicted on charges relating to an alleged breach of the voting system. Sensitive data from the system was leaked online. Peters denies wrongdoing. Authorities have not accused Powell’s group of involvement in the case.

‘I am authorizing payment’
While Maggio was awaiting payment for Nevada, SullivanStrickler’s forensics team was called on again, this time for work in Michigan.

On Dec. 4, 2020, a judge in rural Antrim County surprised local officials by ordering them to allow the plaintiff in an election lawsuit to take images of county vote tabulators. The lawsuit was filed by Matthew DePerno, a lawyer who is now the Trump-backed Republican nominee for Michigan attorney general.

State officials made moves to oppose the inspection, but the Trump allies saw their opening and moved swiftly. The county was already under intense scrutiny after initially reporting inaccurate vote tallies that showed Biden beating Trump in a Republican stronghold. The Post and others previously reported that investigators from SullivanStrickler flew to Antrim on a private jet for the inspection.

The new records show Maggio wrote to Binnall the following evening that his team had made it to Antrim and would begin work the next morning. “It is our assumption that we will be working under our existing agreement and maintain the same daily rate / conditions” as in Nevada, Maggio wrote.

A report based on purported findings from the Antrim examination was promoted publicly by Trump and circulated to Attorney General William P. Barr as evidence of fraud. Independent analysts said the report was badly flawed.

Video of former Attorney General William P. Barr is shown as Cassidy Hutchinson, former aide to Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, testifies June 28 during a hearing of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
Barr told the congressional committee investigating the Jan 6. attack that Trump had said the report was “absolute proof that the Dominion machines were rigged” and that it meant he was “going to have a second term.” Barr said that the report was “amateurish,” and that Trump would have to be “detached from reality” to believe it.

The new records reveal it was Powell who authorized SullivanStrickler’s investigators to work on Antrim — and arranged to pay for their first day’s work. “I am authorizing payment today for Michigan,” Powell wrote to Maggio on Dec. 8, 2020. Maggio replied two days later to say the firm had received a check, adding, “thanks for executing.”

The Michigan judge’s order granting access to the machines had barred the “use, distribution or manipulation of the forensic images and/or other information gleaned from the forensic investigation without further order of this court.”

The new records show that after SullivanStrickler investigators copied the hard drive of an elections server in Antrim on Dec. 6, 2020, Maggio emailed Powell and Penrose, who were not involved in the local lawsuit. Maggio told them the Antrim files would be made available to download from a secure online folder once the firm was paid.

The Antrim data was later publicized during the same Lindell symposium where the Nevada data was shared.

“There’s no real control of this data once it gets copied,” said Kevin Skoglund, an expert retained by plaintiffs in the case. “It’s just loose and out in the world.”

Both Dominion and independent experts have said that, even with the release of data copied from election equipment, there are many safeguards in place to prevent attempts to alter results. Accuracy testing ahead of an election and post-election audits that include the hand-counting of ballots are among the measures intended to detect any such activity.

Two weeks after SullivanStrickler’s team went to Antrim, it began working for Powell in Wayne County. An expected wide margin of victory for Democrats in the county, home to majority-Black Detroit, had propelled Biden to victory in the state.

Trump’s campaign unsuccessfully sought to challenge Wayne County precinct tallies, and then tried to stop certification of the state’s results. The campaign cited alleged irregularities in absentee-vote counting, largely in Detroit.

On Dec. 21, Maggio sent an invoice described as “the retainer for the Wayne County, Michigan work, starting tomorrow. The expectation is that this will be paid prior to any work commencing,” Maggio wrote.

Powell responded a few minutes later, saying her employee would “transfer money promptly, with the understanding that I and Phil Waldron and Todd and Conan will receive a copy of all data immediately.” Powell’s employee was to send a check via FedEx, according to emails.

The emails are the first public indication that Trump allies sought to obtain Wayne County election data.

Wayne County elections officials did not respond to messages seeking comment Monday.

Dispatched to Coffee County

In a video that was recorded in November 2020 and played at a Georgia House committee hearing held virtually on Dec. 10, 2020, Misty Hampton, a former local elections official, claimed that rogue elections officials could use Dominion machines to flip votes. (Courtesy of Georgia House of Representatives)
Allegations that machine data had been accessed in Coffee County, Ga., first surfaced in February this year as part of the long-running lawsuit. In a recording of a March 2021 telephone call filed in court, pro-Trump businessman Scott Hall said he had arranged for a plane to take people to Coffee County and joined them as they “went in there and imaged every hard drive of every piece of equipment” and scanned ballots. “We basically had the entire elections committee there,” Hall added. “And they said: ‘We give you permission. Go for it.’ ”

Former local elections official Misty Hampton told The Post earlier this year that she had allowed Hall and other outsiders into her office in the hope that they could identify machine vulnerabilities and show the “election was not done true and correct.” Hampton resigned under pressure last year because she falsified time sheets, according to county officials.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger leaves after his testimony to the House Jan. 6 select committee on Capitol Hill on June 21. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
Until now, it was unclear whether those involved in the Coffee County effort successfully obtained data from voting machines. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office said in April that it was investigating the possibility of a breach but had found no evidence it had occurred.

The new records show that on the morning of Jan. 7, 2021, as Washington reeled from the attack on the Capitol, Maggio emailed Powell to say his team was “on our way to Coffee County Georgia to collect what we can from the Election/ Voting machines and systems,” adding later that the job was “going well.”

The data obtained by the investigators included copies of virtually every component of the county voting system, including the central tabulation server and a precinct tabulator, according to a directory of file names that Maggio’s lawyer sent the plaintiffs in the Georgia case.

Gabriel Sterling, Georgia’s interim deputy secretary of state, told The Post: “Rogue election officials will not be tolerated in Georgia. Prior to this latest disclosure, the Georgia Secretary of State’s office and the State Election Board had already looped in appropriate authorities, including criminal law enforcement agencies, to assist in the investigation into the alleged unlawful access in Coffee County. That investigation continues and any wrongdoers should be prosecuted.”

A Jan. 7 retainer agreement sent by SullivanStrickler, covering the first day of work in Coffee County by four employees, said the firm was to be paid $26,000 upfront. Maggio noted to Powell in an email that this was in line with “our existing agreement.”

Maggio told Powell the following day that his team would again share the data it had collected. But more than three months then apparently passed, with no explanation given in the emails. In late April 2021, Penrose asked Maggio to send the data and to bill Stefanie Lambert, a lawyer who has represented Powell. Once this was agreed, Lambert replied, “Thank you!”

Maggio later emailed again with a password for accessing the data online and said that a physical copy was to be sent overnight by FedEx.

Lambert was identified this month by Michigan’s attorney general as one of nine people under investigation for an alleged scheme to improperly access voting machines in the state’s Roscommon, Barry and Missaukee counties. The alleged breaches involved machines made by Dominion and Election Systems & Software. Also named in the investigation were Logan of Cyber Ninjas; Penrose, the former intelligence official; and DePerno, the lawyer whose Antrim lawsuit secured access to the machines there.

In an email to The Post, Lambert denied wrongdoing and said the Michigan investigation was politically motivated.

The plaintiffs in Georgia have accused Raffensperger of failing to adequately examine the allegations, alleging in a court filing that his office tried to “avoid revealing that this extraordinary breach occurred and that a real investigation has not.”

Raffensperger’s lawyers responded in court this month by criticizing the plaintiffs for not revealing the Scott Hall telephone recording sooner. They said his office had conducted a “fruitful” forensic review of the county’s election management system and sought assistance from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

In June 2021, state officials replaced Coffee County’s election management system server, the central computer used to tally election results.

Attorneys for Raffensperger have told the court that the secretary of state’s office took possession of the old server because a former elections official, whom they did not name, changed a password, making it impossible for others to get into the machine. Hampton told The Post she did not change any passwords.

Hampton’s successor said during a deposition for the lawsuit that his understanding was the server and another piece of equipment were replaced out of concern that they may have been compromised. He also said he was troubled to find a business card for Logan of Cyber Ninjas on Hampton’s desk after he arrived in April 2021, and that he reported this to state authorities but did not hear back about it.

Voting machines fill the floor for early voting at State Farm Arena on Oct. 12, 2020, in Atlanta. (Brynn Anderson/AP)
Alex Halderman, a University of Michigan computer scientist who has studied security vulnerabilities in voting machines used in Georgia, is working as an expert for the plaintiffs. He said he feared political actors granted unfettered access to the machines could exploit such vulnerabilities, especially when their access went undetected for more than a year after the election, as it did in Coffee County.

“Where else that we don’t yet know about has this same kind of access been given?” Halderman said. “That’s the real danger.”

In May, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued an advisory detailing security flaws it found in Dominion voting systems but emphasizing that there was no evidence those flaws had been exploited. CISA was responding in part to a report by Halderman and another researcher.

CISA, an arm of the Department of Homeland Security, flagged the vulnerabilities to election officials in more than a dozen states that use the machines, and notified them of measures that would aid in detection or prevention of attempts to exploit the vulnerabilities.

Bruce P. Brown, a lawyer who represents the nonprofit Coalition for Good Governance, one of the plaintiffs in the Georgia lawsuit, said the state should institute hand-marked paper ballots immediately to protect the 2022 midterm elections.

“These Georgia counties are not equipped to protect their software from attacks from people bent on disrupting the democratic process,” Brown told The Post.

 

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37 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

i've said this a number of times, but that is what is most amazing about all this.  a mother freaking president of the united states doesn't have the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of top lawyers falling over themselves to represent him.  it's just incredible.  think of any legal fight a president has been in in the past.  it's the absolute cream of the crop representing him as should be expected. 

If there's one thing lawyer folk like more than publicity, it's getting paid.

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1 minute ago, Gil Bang said:

So, calm down a minute and think this through.   You've got FBI field agents, and they are collecting super-secret-spy shit.  Shit that they don't have the clearance to see.  They were instructed (as the warrant shows), that if they see any classified shit in a box, they should seize the entire box.  Because they (the field agents) aren't supposed to rummage through the secret-spy shit. 

So, they open a box full of shit, they flip through it, and they see "CLASSIFIED" marked on a single file, they close the box and load it onto the truck.  It's not their fault that the fat fuck had his passports in the same box with spy shit that he FUCKING STOLE from the white house. 

Currently, the Feds have qualified people going through all the shit that they seized, and they will undoubtedly return everything that isn't relevant to Dotard's crimes, such as the passports.  

Yeah.  Fair enough.  I guess my point is that the FBI should not have taken the passports, but they did.  It's understandable given the situation that they did, but they did something that was not their intention.  

It should not be defended as saying "they can take your passport if they want."  That just plays into deep state paranoia and characterization that the FBI can fuck you over for no reason.  

At this point, it should just be "sorry, our bad, here you go, please don't keep your personal stuff with top secret nuclear documents next time." 

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If this passport thing was such a big deal would it really take anyone a week to notice they were missing?

The only logical explanation is dotard has been tipped off that he's about to get arrested so is planning to flee the country.  Obviously.

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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Not to sane and reasonable people.  To the magats it's going to be the biggest deal since Ft. Sumter.

[Bullneck 19,206]

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Yeah.  Fair enough.  I guess my point is that the FBI should not have taken the passports, but they did.  It's understandable given the situation that they did, but they did something that was not their intention.  

It should not be defended as saying "they can take your passport if they want."  That just plays into deep state paranoia and characterization that the FBI can fuck you over for no reason.  

At this point, it should just be "sorry, our bad, here you go, please don't keep your personal stuff with top secret nuclear documents next time." 

By law an expired passport should be turned in.  Granted, Trump is above all laws - amirite??

Seriously, ex-Potus can’t keep an expired passport any more than I can. 

(I know people don’t turn them in when they get new ones - but my point is the law says they should, so taking them is not illegal)

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,224]

The FBI should have responded with the reasonable answer:

"As a well-documented coward and all-around bitchass, we consider the dotard a significant flight risk.  So yes, we took his shit.  So what?"

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

As if Donald Trump needs a passport to flee to East Slobovia. That stack of Maga donations is this month's passport.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,224]

2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

At this point, it should just be "sorry, our bad, here you go, please don't keep your personal stuff with top secret nuclear documents next time." 

Isn't that kind of exactly what happened?

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2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

BUT HIS PASSPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We know where his priorities are.  His means of escape was accidentally taken, so that's his first concern. 

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14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

By law an expired passport should be turned in.  Granted, Trump is above all laws - amirite??

Seriously, ex-Potus can’t keep an expired passport any more than I can. 

(I know people don’t turn them in when they get new ones - but my point is the law says they should, so taking them is not illegal)

 

Pretty sure that last time I renewed mine, they returned the old one to me with a hole punched through it. 

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23 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

 

That is not the pathetic man we are looking for.

[atomheartbevo 89,794]

Some polls out for Florida, including showing DeSantis edging Trump among Florida voters in 2024.  That should make Trump really happy.

 

[Tuco 5,077]

23 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Pretty sure that last time I renewed mine, they returned the old one to me with a hole punched through it. 

Same here. 

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

When he hits that range, he’s scared.

If they can come after Trump (for committing crimes), they can come after YOU (for committing crimes)

 

funny he leaves the committing crimes part out

[Pig Bellmont 8,738]

“Just because there’s video of Trump committing crimes, doesn’t mean that this isn’t a hoax”

Anyone nodding along to Tucker should wander in traffic 

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42 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

By law an expired passport should be turned in.  Granted, Trump is above all laws - amirite??

Seriously, ex-Potus can’t keep an expired passport any more than I can. 

(I know people don’t turn them in when they get new ones - but my point is the law says they should, so taking them is not illegal)

 

There’s no law against keeping an expired passport. Great souvenirs especially if you rack up the visas an stamps.  When you renew it will get sent back with holes punched through the code at the bottom Of the photo page. 
 

If you don’t renew it’s not a problem at all to have it. Just don’t try to use it. 

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2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

“Just because there’s video of Trump committing crimes, doesn’t mean that this isn’t a hoax”

Anyone nodding along to Tucker should wander in traffic 

[TwiceHorn 31,536]

2 hours ago, pantone159 said:

Sounds to me like these boxes that held the classified documents also held some non-classified things mixed in as well. That is not a fuckup by the FBI, it is a description of the lack of care with which the classified documents were stored. And such non-secret things that were in these boxes are being sorted out and returned.

And my passport does state specifically that it is the property of the US Government and can be reclaimed at any time.

The only valid complaint is that Trump & Co were so sloppy in illegally storing the secret documents that they mixed in non-illegal things with them. That is 0% on the government and 100% on DJT.

Well, it does reflect poorly on the warrant execution team.

On the other hand, as you indicate, someone with valuable personal Trump documents, like the orange fuck himself, was noodling around in this shit.