A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[henrygandorf 29,191]

13 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

This is really hard for me to believe.  Then again, so was Donald Fucking Trump becoming President of the United States.

he's just trying to lower the temperature come on guys he's doing his best ok?

[CTC2 2,797]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Independents make up like 40% of the electorate but do not vote as a collective block and this factor is widely overlooked. 
 

ETA:  Source

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

I know a lot of people who identify as independent.  In fact, they only vote R.  

[TexasEd 8,067]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Excluding her work on the J6 committee, Cheney is not helpful.  Like, in any way.

Yeah, but it is still an electoral college thing.  Any discussion on this that does not look at the swing states and EC counts is wasted time.  Would she pull enough votes from Trump in Ohio to put it in Biden's column, for example.  Trump will win the Maga States like Texas, Wyoming and Florida

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

No Dem is going to vote for her.  But the ex-Republicans who voted for Biden last election (of which there are many of us here)... some of them will vote for her.  

Yes, this is what I was trying to say.  Thank you.  

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

i live a lonely, miserable existence, why can't you just let me be?

dem votes don't necessarily come from dem voters.  there were more anti-trump biden votes in 2020 than there were anti-hillary trump votes in 2016.  and both numbers were far too high.

if cheney were to help defeat trump, she would need to run a coordinated anti-trump campaign speaking solely to the 6 states that will decide this election. 

i think trying to knee-cap trump in favor of desantis in the primary is the better solution because she cannot participate in the general.  biden is too moderate and aligns too closely with people who would see cheney as a "more sensible moderate option" because people are fucking idiots.

This this and more this.  This is the point.  There are WAY more people than anyone realizes that voted for Biden in 2020 that would IMMEDIATELY switch to any other R besides dotard.  Desantis, Cheney, fucking ANYONE.  They think that trump is the only problem.  They do not understand that the entire R party is compromised.  It's a really fucking dangerous game.  I can't believe it, but I'm actually ROOTING for dotard to win the primary at this point.  That's how fucked we are.

[WhatTheBuck 28,781]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

This reminds me of Dwayne from What's Happening? getting on a hot streak betting on NFL games based on how much he liked their uniforms. If I remember correctly, I think the Tampa Bay OG Creamsicles went on a 2 game winning streak then, hoo boy, did shenanigans ensue!!!

The episode I remember most is the one where Rerun got caught making a bootleg recording of a Doobie Brothers concert. 

[A-Tex Devil 2,446]

2 hours ago, Chopper said:

Well she's not going to run in order to help Trump so there's no way she's running as an independent. Stupid fucking poll. Adding: Also paying attention to polls in a general election more than 2 years away is fucking stupid.

There was a Bulwark podcast on all of this.  She will not do anything that will help Trump.   And she would hurt Biden/help Trump if she ran as an independent.  Every political strategist I’ve read/listened to has said what that poll shows.

I think she’ll probably go on a kamikaze primary mission, with the hope that she has enough support and backing from people like the Koch’s and others to prevent states from skipping primaries and also forcing a debate.  The latter doesn’t happen unless Desantis and others are also running.  But I see her running in the GOP akin to Bernie in 2016.  

[henrygandorf 29,191]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I can't believe it, but I'm actually ROOTING for dotard to win the primary at this point.  That's how fucked we are.

don't do this.

best case scenario, desantis wins the primary and (1) trump goes after him and the party by either sabotaging the convention or by (2) running independent, but trashes him at every stop to the point that the dems win by default, and also because (3) the crazies who cannot be polled who only come out for trump, stay fucking home.

we need an absolute in-fighting shit circus on the right where trump tries to bring down the whole party.  liz can help accomplish this.  in the primary.

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10 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Cherry 2000…..from ebay.  We all can’t afford the 5000’s

[atomheartbevo 89,666]

3 hours ago, Chopper said:

If I were as extremely negative as some of you about the possibility for justice I wouldn't be able to deal with reading this forum let alone deciding to wake up in the morning.

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

don't do this.

best case scenario, desantis wins the primary and (1) trump goes after him and the party by either sabotaging the convention or by (2) running independent, but trashes him at every stop to the point that the dems win by default, and also because (3) the crazies who cannot be polled who only come out for trump, stay fucking home.

we need an absolute in-fighting shit circus on the right where trump tries to bring down the whole party.  liz can help accomplish this.  in the primary.

It's all a fucking risk.  If the GOP candidate wins, regardless, we are all fucked.  

[27-25 2,047]

Trump is OU.  Don't ever, EVER, hope he wins anything.  Under any circumstances.  No good comes of it.

[Beau Vine 54,230]

4 hours ago, Chopper said:

If I were as extremely negative as some of you about the possibility for justice I wouldn't be able to deal with reading this forum let alone deciding to wake up in the morning.

GET OFF MY LEDGE!!!!

[Biff Tannen 45,685]

23 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Trump is OU.  Don't ever, EVER, hope he wins anything.  Under any circumstances.  No good comes of it.

Man, I really just don’t know if this is true. It’s a completely fucked and unprecedented situation we are facing. If he wins, he drives up voter turnout on both sides (fuck you Ana) and if he loses, those that might have voted against him will either vote for the R candidate or not vote. He is not the problem. He is the symptom. 

[ChiTownDoc 21,154]

26 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Trump is OU.  Don't ever, EVER, hope he wins anything.  Under any circumstances.  No good comes of it.

You son of a bitch!

[Hagbard Celine 10,864]

4 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

This reminds me of Dwayne from What's Happening? getting on a hot streak betting on NFL games based on how much he liked their uniforms. If I remember correctly, I think the Tampa Bay OG Creamsicles went on a 2 game winning streak then, hoo boy, did shenanigans ensue!!!

because i look for traps, i had to go look this up

season 2 episode 8 "give me odds" aired on 11 november 77

the creamsicles broke their 0-26 streak in week 13 of the 77 season defeating the aints in nawlins on 11 december 77

and yes they won the next game (their first home win) over the ST.LOUIS cardinals 7 days later

for what it's worth

[Jhawkmvp 1,489]

On 8/19/2022 at 3:42 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

Imagine trump living in putin’s place with him. Odd couple rebooted would be his biggest ratings ever.  Maybe that’s why McDonald’s is moving toward getting back into Russia. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,585]

You're mother smelled of elderberries. Now go away, or we will taunt you so more *wink*.

[henrygandorf 29,191]

1 hour ago, 27-25 said:

Trump is OU.  Don't ever, EVER, hope he wins anything.  Under any circumstances.  No good comes of it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

[Radical Larry 28,615]

Fat & Furious: Brokeyo Grift

[Upgrayedd 5,812]

5 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Fat & Furious: Brokeyo Grift

I’m stealing this.  Just so you know.

[Macanudo 12,978]

On 8/22/2022 at 9:48 PM, henrygandorf said:

 

and i'll turn to my fuckbot 5000 and say "stop crying, it's business time."

[chainsaw 9,868]

33 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

full grift mode

[DigglerontheHoof 21,199]

26 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Fat & Furious: Brokeyo Grift

[Neonmoon 38,129]

"National Finance Chairman"

That's the fanciest title for whore I've ever seen

[Native Horn 3,504]

21 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

"National Finance Chairman"

That's the fanciest title for whore I've ever seen

Came in to type something pithy regarding Jr.'s woman, but can't beat this. Well done.

[ChiTownDoc 21,154]

1 hour ago, Radical Larry said:

Fat & Furious: Brokeyo Grift

Need to rename the thread, stat.  

[Underdog 28,633]

Thelma Lou?!  How much you reckon we’d get for those tires on our home so I can attend President Trump’s candlelight dinner? 

[DigglerontheHoof 21,199]

I'd really like to see a list of the dipshits who pull the trigger on any of those tickets.  

[RomaVicta 29,907]

Candlelight dinner sounds so intimate and civilized. Some very fine people will be there, for sure.

 

In looking up the above, I was reminded of the below.

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During the first presidential debate, President Donald Trump did not condemn white supremacists when asked to. He did tell the Proud Boys — a far right hate group — to "stand back and stand by."

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,781]

11 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

In looking up the above, I was reminded of the below.

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During the first presidential debate, President Donald Trump did not condemn white supremacists when asked to. He did tell the Proud Boys — a far right hate group — to "stand back and stand by."

And they did...until Jan. 6. 

[The Dog 44,051]

Now we know why people like Jon Sale are turning him down. He wants to get the documents back and won't accept that they aren't his to keep. 

[chainsaw 9,868]

It's gonna be awesome when he's indicted.

[Red Five 40,858]

This is like arresting someone for robbing a bank, and their defense is "give me back the money I stole from the bank!". 

[RomaVicta 29,907]

Well, his current Hooters lawyers can enjoy billing at a higher rate than they've ever known. They'll never see a dime of it, but, hey!, they're back on TV!

I hope someone documents his melt downs and final cracking. The great snake has got him.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

It's gonna be awesome when he's indicted.

Hate to be Debbie Downer but so far it looks like Garland was trying to pull this off without the public ever knowing about it.  

If Trump didn’t blow the whistle on himself with the “I’m Being RAIDED by the FBI” nonsense, we’d have likely not gotten wind of this. 

I hope I’m wrong but unfortunately, recent history is on my side here.  It looks more like “operation sweep under rug” than whatever it should be. 

Edited August 24, 2022 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Tuco 5,076]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

"National Finance Chairman"

That's the fanciest title for whore I've ever seen

She would actually be one of the more respectable "finance chairmen" the GOP has had for a while, and would still be even if she was convicted for prostitution. Title was previously held by Michael Cohen (felon), Elliot Broidy (previous felony reduced to misdemeanor, second felony pardoned by Trump), Steve Wynn (sexual misconduct tab in the tens of millions of dollars, forced to register for FARA for representing Chinese government). 

The GOP is a criminal organization.  

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hate to be Debbie Downer but so far it looks like Garland was trying to pull this off without the public ever knowing about it.  

If Trump didn’t blow the whistle on himself with the “I’m Being RAIDED by the FBI” nonsense, we’d have likely not got winded of this. 

I hope I’m wrong but unfortunately, recent history is my side here.  It looks more like “operation sweep under rug” than whatever it should be. 

0 people on planet earth thought this wasn't going to get out.

[Sbbruin 21,853]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Make America Great Again, Again!?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

0 people on planet earth thought this wasn't going to get out.

Trump had 300+ state secrets in his basement for 18 months without it getting out.  What does that statement alone tell you? 

The Feds didn’t leak anything, Trump did. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Trump had 300+ state secrets in his basement for 18 months without it getting out.  What does that statement alone tell you? 

The Feds didn’t leak anything, Trump did. 

yeah, he did.  just like the doj expected him to.  in what world do you think you can do a raid on a president's house and not have anyone notice?

[The Dog 44,051]

It was going public the second they served the search warrant.

The story was broken by a local reporter then confirmed by Trump.

['stache 21,815]

16 hours ago, Chooky said:

If she ran as an independent I think she might hurt dems in the suburbs. If she runs in the GOP primary she'll be beaten like law enforcement on January 6th. She'd be an afterthought before she packed her bags to leave Iowa. 

 

Makes absolutely zero sense. If this poll was done legitimately, it's probably a mistake in information among the people polled. Centrist democrats aren't the ones with grievances against Biden, and if they are, once they look into Cheney outside of the Jan. 6 stuff, they'll see she's just as terrible on the issues as the rest of the far right. The more progressive voters who don't like Biden aren't switching to Cheney, they'll just stay home and bask in their own moral indignation. I guess it's possible that some sane republicans voted for Biden to ensure trump lost and they might be more willing to vote for Cheney, but they almost assuredly would go ahead and vote for Biden if they see a poll like this, since their vote was for the sole purpose of keeping the traitorous moron out of office. Either way, it's irrelevant, Cheney's lone redeeming value is that she understands who truly dangerous trump is, and if this is legit at all, she wouldn't do something that makes it more likely for him to win.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

9 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

yeah, he did.  just like the doj expected him to.  in what world do you think you can do a raid on a president's house and not have anyone notice?

It wasn’t a raid.  The FBI agents showed up in plain clothes with a search warrant. Garland didn’t make a statement until he was forced to because Trump hit back with his call to arms.

This wasn’t a raid like we saw with Manafort or Stone and Wray is in hiding or something.  Very little about this case makes Garland look good. 

Edited August 24, 2022 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Pato del Muerto 52,498]

6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I guess it's possible that some sane republicans voted for Biden to ensure trump lost and they might be more willing to vote for Cheney

This is exactly what the poll is saying would happen.  
 

of course, I didn’t even click on the tweet, only looked over what imbedded so it’s possible the poll is flawed with its questioning, its pool of respondents, other stuff, or a combination thereof. 

[aggie08 21,504]

God damnit, Hugo.

[RomaVicta 29,907]

19 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hate to be Debbie Downer but so far it looks like Garland was trying to pull this off without the public ever knowing about it.  

If Trump didn’t blow the whistle on himself with the “I’m Being RAIDED by the FBI” nonsense, we’d have likely not gotten wind of this. 

I hope I’m wrong but unfortunately, recent history is on my side here.  It looks more like “operation sweep under rug” than whatever it should be. 

I don't think making it public knowledge that some extremely sensitive government secrets are unsecured in MAL would have served the national interest. The FBI doesn't know for sure that they have everything even now. Headlines announcing that some serious stuff might be in the wind makes a gaping security breech even worse.

DOJ hasn't tipped their hand on what their plans are. I'm neither optimistic or pessimistic; I'm just in the dark.

The crimes seem serious and Trumps manic rabble rousing and oddball legal moves indicate that he's pretty worried about it.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

"There it is folks, dig in. It's not getting any warmer. There's a cardboard cutout of me by the door you can get a picture while you leave. There, fulfilled all the obligations on the invite -- got food, some candles, take a picture. No refunds."

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It wasn’t a raid.  The FBI agents showed up in plain clothes with a search warrant. Garland didn’t make a statement until he was forced too because Trump hit back with his call to arms.

This wasn’t a raid like we saw with Manafort or Stone and Wray is in hiding or something.  Very little about this case makes Garland look good. 

i 100% disagree with this take.  

this was measured and designed to have Trump speak out first, and let him stick himself in a box.  predictably, that's exactly what he did and ended up making a fool of himself with a multitude of new rationales/lies.

when stupid decides to speak, give him a stage and stay outta the way.

second, they knew what they had and were going to get, and there's absolutely no explaining that away.

Garland prosecuted Ted Kaczynski and Timothy McVeigh; he knows what he's doing and how to line up all the right targets in sequential order in big cases.  and you can bet your ass he's done that here 50-fold.   

he knows you don't try to fry this particular fish until it's absolutely certain it's going to be dropped in the grease.