A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[HenryJames 66228]

 

[Eskimohorn 5644]

It apparently is true that there is some jockeying between NARA and outgoing administrations about "personal" vs. "presidential" records, the former of which a former potus is permitted to keep, and the latter of which belong to NARA.
There is NOT, as far as I have seen, jockeying regarding classified documents, that requires NARA to involve the DOJ.

The average 5th grader could understand this concept within 2 minutes

[Pato del Muerto 52665]

2 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

Reading the comments on this: I glean that the normal submission is 20 pages maximum, but the doj asked for 40 (or maybe asked for more and was granted 40?) to state their position. 
 

still not sure what the 40 pages will be about though.  What’s the argument being looked at right now?

[TwiceHorn 31646]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Reading the comments on this: I glean that the normal submission is 20 pages maximum, but the doj asked for 40 (or maybe asked for more and was granted 40?) to state their position. 
 

still not sure what the 40 pages will be about though.  What’s the argument being looked at right now?

Pretty routine thing, overall.

I think the main issue is going to be whether a claim of executive privilege, even if sustained, can cause such documents to be withheld from a criminal investigation occurring within the executive branch. Although the answer to that seems to be a clear no, there is a good bit of background (legislative history, statutory interpretation) required to answer that question.

[atomheartbevo 89879]

5 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

that's not how we used to us that phrase.

5 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Neither did Gaetz.  

[atomheartbevo 89879]

5 hours ago, texastough said:

What if there are documents showing how fpotus helped plan Jan 6 among everything seized at MAL

I’m more interested in whether there were blackmale documents and photos involving people like Lindsey Graham, and some of the others who did an about face on Trump.

[Horndog 2252]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

I’m more interested in whether there were blackmale documents and photos involving people like Lindsey Graham, and some of the others who did an about face on Trump.

I'm assuming your use of "blackmale" was not intentional with respect to Ladybugs.

[TwiceHorn 31646]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

I’m more interested in whether there were blackmale documents and photos involving people like Lindsey Graham, and some of the others who did an about face on Trump.

BBC?  Or just gray slacks?

[Beau Vine 54488]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

were blackmale documents

[Biff Tannen 45754]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

His businesses will go broke, his hangers-on and family will rat him out to save themselves, Fani and Letitia don't give fuck all about niceties of normal and customary treatment of former officeholders, the competition he spawned (deSantis) will kill him to take his place, Garland's deep state party machine will carve the name of Trump's crimes in Kafkaeque fashion on chest, and Liz Cheney will get the last head shot. 

He's toast.  Bank it.

Dude, people have been saying this since 2017.  I have yet to see ANYTHING that backs this up.

[TwiceHorn 31646]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Dude, people have been saying this since 2017.  I have yet to see ANYTHING that backs this up.

He was cloaked with presidential immunity for four more years.

[Pig Bellmont 8744]

40 pages? This is going to be pretty juicy 

[henrygandorf 29198]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Personally, I'm rooting for spontaneous human combustion. I saw enough shows from the Discovery Channel (or was it the History Channel?) about it to know we are due a good one. 

ok, i'll play.

i want for him to fake his own death and flee to another country.  then i want someone in that country to narc him out, and he gets dragged back here while people get to film his fat ass and laugh at him.

when the initial report hits that he's dead, the red-hats will say it's not true, it's a conspiracy, while everyone else celebrates.  but when he gets dragged out saddam style, but still alive, we'll laugh and laugh. 

ahh, if wishing made it so.

[Biff Tannen 45754]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

ok, i'll play.

i want for him to fake his own death and flee to another country.  then i want someone in that country to narc him out, and he gets dragged back here while people get to film his fat ass and laugh at him.

when the initial report hits that he's dead, the red-hats will say it's not true, it's a conspiracy, while everyone else celebrates.  but when he gets dragged out saddam style, but still alive, we'll laugh and laugh. 

ahh, if wishing made it so.

This would be a hell of a curveball from The Simulation.

[Gil Bang 26069]

 

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45754]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

 

 

 

Once again, the frat boy defense.  "We were just joking!  They should've just asked us (they did)! No big deal!"

[Red Five 41010]

“All they had to do was ask”.

It’s actually kind of disturbing in a 1984 Orwell way that people are comfortable saying this.

Maybe Don’t Look Up is the better example.

[atomheartbevo 89879]

33 minutes ago, Horndog said:

I'm assuming your use of "blackmale" was not intentional with respect to Ladybugs.

[henrygandorf 29198]

26 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

 

 

imagine the sheltered and privileged life one has to lead to hear about the fbi lawfully obtaining a warrant and searching someone's home, then call it un-american.

[Fudge Nuggets 19240]

39 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

40 pages? This is going to be pretty juicy 

Is DOJ getting paid by the word?  They should sign up Lobo to write their filings.

[Pato del Muerto 52665]

Just now, Fudge Nuggets said:

Is DOJ getting paid by the word?  They should sign up Lobo to write their filings.

Good thing randy Duke didn’t know that was allowed on his 12th man trademark suits. 

[The Dog 44175]

[YGIFS 19453]

5 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Is DOJ getting paid by the word?  They should sign up Lobo to write their filings.

For a guy who has me on ignore, we still seem up at the bar an awful lot for long chats and longer gazes.  NTTAWT.  

But yeah, as much as Trump and his movement changed the uses of social media...the way this particular investigation and subsequent legal steps are playing out (almost) in real time is a whole other point in history to be studied for decades.  Closest I can think of is Watergate, but that unfolded over months with excruciating minutiae and diligence.  Even the most skeptical/pro-Nixon folks still checked in with reliable sources regularly (WaPo, NYT, Cronkite, PBS).  Everybody, on both sides or indifferent, was along for the slow-churn 'n burn.  They understood it to be part of the process no matter what.  Now, both sides are clamoring for "I want news to my narrative and I want it now."  It's juvenile all around.  Only reason I'm encouraged as someone trained in the law is it's remarkably methodical even by DoJ standards and it's actually happening at a remarkably expedient clip.  May not feel that way to those of us that wish Trump could fist himself to death...but it's been pretty expedient all things considered.  The only annoying lag has been from when NARA went to DoJ who went to FBI and their 3 back-and-forths with Trump and his team.  That's actually a feature for once, not a bug.  And they'll soon find out why.  When Bookman gives you extra time to return your overdue books, he's not being nice...he's buying time to build a case against you and giving you the sense you have time now to build your own case.  That the whole cat-n-mouse game didn't result in more serious shit is the fucking final miracle of the Trump Debacle.  

[Gil Bang 26069]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

I was saying the same a while back.  She was slipping in her own juice when she met that dude. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21263]

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Personally, I'm rooting for spontaneous human combustion. I saw enough shows from the Discovery Channel (or was it the History Channel?) about it to know we are due a good one. 

[BrickHorn 18298]

16 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

imagine the sheltered and privileged life one has to lead to hear about the fbi lawfully obtaining a warrant and searching someone's home, then call it un-american.

To be fair, she’s right. The American way is to drive a tank full of SWAT officers down to the suspect’s residence in the middle of the night, kick in the neighbor’s door, shoot an innocent family while they sleep, and announce at a press conference that it’s okay because one time one of them was seen near a suspected marijuana cigarette. 

[Gengs1 2583]

14 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Marcon have a club foot like Hunter Biden?

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

17 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

 

 

The irony is lost on Trump; if (big if) this is true and he had knowledge,  then what the hell does foreign governments know about his personal life?

 

[henrygandorf 29198]

17 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

For a guy who has me on ignore, we still seem up at the bar an awful lot for long chats and longer gazes.  NTTAWT.  

But yeah, as much as Trump and his movement changed the uses of social media...the way this particular investigation and subsequent legal steps are playing out (almost) in real time is a whole other point in history to be studied for decades.  Closest I can think of is Watergate, but that unfolded over months with excruciating minutiae and diligence.  Even the most skeptical/pro-Nixon folks still checked in with reliable sources regularly (WaPo, NYT, Cronkite, PBS).  Everybody, on both sides or indifferent, was along for the slow-churn 'n burn.  They understood it to be part of the process no matter what.  Now, both sides are clamoring for "I want news to my narrative and I want it now."  It's juvenile all around.  Only reason I'm encouraged as someone trained in the law is it's remarkably methodical even by DoJ standards and it's actually happening at a remarkably expedient clip.  May not feel that way to those of us that wish Trump could fist himself to death...but it's been pretty expedient all things considered.  The only annoying lag has been from when NARA went to DoJ who went to FBI and their 3 back-and-forths with Trump and his team.  That's actually a feature for once, not a bug.  And they'll soon find out why.  When Bookman gives you extra time to return your overdue books, he's not being nice...he's buying time to build a case against you and giving you the sense you have time now to build your own case.  That the whole cat-n-mouse game didn't result in more serious shit is the fucking final miracle of the Trump Debacle.  

paragraph breaks and how to use them.

[Covri 6260]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Dude, people have been saying this since 2017.  I have yet to see ANYTHING that backs this up.

Since 1987 and 1997 and 2007 and 2017 and like a cockroach in the bathroom he keeps climbing higher and higher without ever getting sucked down the drain. Ain't shit gonna happen this time either. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21263]

3 minutes ago, Covri said:

Since 1987 and 1997 and 2007 and 2017 and like a cockroach in the bathroom he keeps climbing higher and higher without ever getting sucked down the drain. Ain't shit gonna happen this time either. 

My #1 reason for being on the ledge.  This piece of shit is absolutely immune from accountability.  He bullies his way through life and it fucking works.  

He'll bully his way through this, too. 

[Born to Run 6570]

imagine the sheltered and privileged life one has to lead to hear about the fbi lawfully obtaining a warrant and searching someone's home, then call it un-american.

You certainly get lesser quality when you shift from "Jock Chaser" to political operative chaser, but here we are. I don't care if she or he used to be a dude and fucked Newsome with a 12" dong, nor do I care how she's fucking DT Jr's pie hole currently. That is thier business. But she is a clown, ditch pig, and disgusting human chasing fame with zero regard for her fellow humans.

But, Her or his, sexual status and fact she or he may be packing a huge dong right up the butt of the son of our former Potus is not the issue dude.

[YGIFS 19453]

24 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

paragraph breaks and how to use them.

Yeah, I'm going through a David Mamet-esque white knuckle experience literally when I'm typing.  You think I give a fuck about paragraphs?  

Serious question---you and the Mrs. are in Texas in late September...lemme know.  Ransom Center deal with DeNiro and some other folks.  You can drink my share...hope all is well on your end.

[henrygandorf 29198]

5 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah, I'm going through a David Mamet-esque white knuckle experience literally when I'm typing.  You think I give a fuck about paragraphs?  

Serious question---you and the Mrs. are in Texas in late September...lemme know.  Ransom Center deal with DeNiro and some other folks.  You can drink my share...hope all is well on your end.

[Rimbo 26174]

how are there people who still don't have YGIFS on ignore

[YGIFS 19453]

Same reason you cannot shut the fuck up about posts.  Because deep down inside, your ability to bring up old shit over and over again is worthy of making someone a very fine, fine wife.  I'm guilty of the same but alas, I cannot marry myself.  But keep up the whining, your parents must be very proud.  

Honestly though, if you're interested and keep bringing up old shit on the date like a true spouse...I need a +1 the Friday night before Alabama game.  Should be a nice affair and you can feel special.  

 

Just ban me, or ignore me.  There is literally nothing stopping you except your own clitoris.

[High Plains Drifter 11054]

10 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

Oh, is that how it works? Well then, I demand Sally Hudspeth finish that hand job she started but never completed back in 10th grade. I also demand that Wells Fargo forgive my mortgage and refund everything I've already paid immediately.

While we are at it, I also declare bankruptcy.

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Unfortunately, I doubt Trump likes salmon mousse.

 

"Wait, I didn't eat the salmon mousse."

 

 

[safe sex 11800]

14 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

There is literally nothing stopping you except your own clitoris.

Let's leave clits out of this tyvm

[YGIFS 19453]

Okay, but only because of your bizarre olde english centre of spelling.  

[grazinhorn 472]

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

i want for him to fake his own death and flee to another country.  then i want someone in that country to narc him out, and he gets dragged back here while people get to film his fat ass and laugh at him.

when the initial report hits that he's dead, the red-hats will say it's not true, it's a conspiracy, while everyone else celebrates.  but when he gets dragged out saddam style, but still alive, we'll laugh and laugh.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

Yeah, I'm going through a David Mamet-esque white knuckle experience literally when I'm typing.  You think I give a fuck about paragraphs?  
Serious question---you and the Mrs. are in Texas in late September...lemme know.  Ransom Center deal with DeNiro and some other folks.  You can drink my share...hope all is well on your end.

You should try a different message board. You seem to take everything too personal.

A wise man once said.

[YGIFS 19453]

Passed along an invite to a writer/film dinner to some folks who appreciate writer/film events.  How bizarre.  

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

Same reason you cannot shut the fuck up about posts.  Because deep down inside, your ability to bring up old shit over and over again is worthy of making someone a very fine, fine wife.  I'm guilty of the same but alas, I cannot marry myself.  But keep up the whining, your parents must be very proud.  
Honestly though, if you're interested and keep bringing up old shit on the date like a true spouse...I need a +1 the Friday night before Alabama game.  Should be a nice affair and you can feel special.  
 
Just ban me, or ignore me.  There is literally nothing stopping you except your own clitoris.

Seriously. Let. It. Go.

You come off as a huge pussy with your whining.

[YGIFS 19453]

and ye shall be my second wife.  

[Bullneck 19267]

Ouch.  That's some sub-par performance.

[Pato del Muerto 52665]

35 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Okay, but only because of your bizarre olde english centre of spelling.  

It’s an acronym for thank you very much

[YGIFS 19453]

Do you even know who taught me acronyms, bro?  

[Pig Bellmont 8744]

I’m sure that’s nothing 

[Bullneck 19267]

10 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Passed along an invite to a writer/film dinner to some folks who appreciate writer/film events.  How bizarre.  

That's what the DM function is made for.  You do that in private so you don't come off as an attention whore.

Just now, Pig Bellmont said:

I’m sure that’s nothing 

J6 can't compel it, but the DoJ probably can.

[henrygandorf 29198]

2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I’m sure that’s nothing 

nothing says i'm innocent like getting the fuck outta here.