A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

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A buddy took his father to Obama’s inauguration, and brought me back a First Family t-shirt, which I wore proudly. Not as proud as my friend’s family, because reasons.

Being the first black president was a big deal.

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22 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

I think there was a cult of personality surrounding Obama, and certainly some over-zealous admiration.  But we've seen that with FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, and even W.  

What I never ever thought would be possible is the outright, physical idolatry of Trump.  Grown Americans in the 2010's/2020's openly worshipping a horribly flawed human being.  Even if he was Mother Teresa in terms of moral fiber, it'd still be weird.  My die-hard Catholic in-laws have one little photo of the Pope in their home, and that's it.  But it's fucking wall-to-wall Trump shit.  Of all my (insert racist comment here) black friends, liberal friends, hispanic family members, democrats, and progressives alike---I don't think any one of them had a single physical item of Obama that they purchased.  I'm sure there's was some gimme calendar somewhere in the house for giving a campaign donation.  But I have multiple friends and relatives with multiple Trump schwag in their homes/offices.  I mean, my cousin took down the crucifix in their dining room to put up $10 worth of Trump commemorative coins she paid $200 for.  It's beyond the pale, even for America.

I have a couple of t-shirts but that's because I actively canvassed for him during the primaries. you know where those shirts are now? in a box with other memorabilia. I wouldn't think twice about ever wearing them again - maybe when I'm old so I can prove I liberal when I was young, but otherwise, nah. 

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29 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

that's some revisionist bullshit. no one worshipped Obama. there were a lot of people blind to his flaws, but I run in some pretty liberal circles and no one was even close to the scale of a MAGAT.

Oh I didn't know anybody who worshiped him on the level of Trump either.  I know some who were ecstatic that he won for various reasons, but not on the level where they would try and storm the Capitol if he had lost in 2012.

Every accusation is a confession with this group though - they literally worship Trump, so of course Obama supporters had to do the same.

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Yeah, a campaign t-shirt makes sense.  I still  have a Bill Weld shirt from 2020.  Only person who ever knew what the fuck it even was was a 'secret shopper' at my Trader Joe's who was visiting the store from Boston and her dad worked for Weld decades ago.  We got to talking about the Red Sox, and pretty soon she was like "Goddamnit, I wasn't supposed to tell anybody who I was and here I told you everything about me."  I politely said, "A bottle of two-buck chuck says this conversation ever happened."  She said something about Texas state laws but she bought me the yogurt my daughter likes.  CSB.  

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Yeah, the way the MAGAts worship Trump is unlike anything we’ve ever seen before. It’s a legitimate cult. It’s one thing to wear a t-shirt with this on it:

 It’s another thing entirely to deck your car out like this:

Or this:

Or this:

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its crazy how he is a blank slate for all the MAGA folks to project their racism and hatred onto. I saw a plan II thesis presentation on the similarities of white evangelicals and trump/far right. It is crazy how Trump / far right have tailored their messaging to fit the white racist christian belief systems. No major party American candidate before him had openly courted racists nor had anyone else openly pursued racist religious beliefs in a major US party campaign. They have positioned him to be Jesus and because he is willing to support racism, they overlook that they just might be supporting the "anti-christ"  

I remember reading Revelations as a child and thinking no way anyone would ever fall for the freakin anti-christ. little did i know that all he would have to do is be a racist and every white evangelical man and woman would gladly trade in Jesus for him.

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2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

A cult does not let reality enter the conversation. This will never go away. These people are brainwashed by propaganda 

He’s investigated = a witch hunt 

He’s indicted = a corrupt DA on fake charges 

He’s convicted = rigged system 

He’s in jail = a political prisoner 

I'll settle for that.

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Personally, I can’t wait to see the:
He’s dead = FAKE NEWS!
phenomenon.
 
i’ve got the Boy Scout popcorn ready to pop.

In the current simulation, Geraldo will open the mausoleum after a few days and the body will be missing. The ratings will be huge.

[YGIFS 19449]

25 million Americans think BOTH JFK and JFK JR are still alive.  You think that same amount won’t refuse to accept the death of Trump?  Honestly, the more that don’t accept it, the better.  Fewer people I gotta worry about shooting at me while I openly party my fucking ass off in public.  
 

shit, even if he’s just arrested on Tuesday—-I’m probably buying some drugs.  And I mean grown up drugs, not fucking CBD shit.  

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1 hour ago, Longhorn94 said:

its crazy how he is a blank slate for all the MAGA folks to project their racism and hatred onto. I saw a plan II thesis presentation on the similarities of white evangelicals and trump/far right. It is crazy how Trump / far right have tailored their messaging to fit the white racist christian belief systems. No major party American candidate before him had openly courted racists nor had anyone else openly pursued racist religious beliefs in a major US party campaign. They have positioned him to be Jesus and because he is willing to support racism, they overlook that they just might be supporting the "anti-christ"  

I remember reading Revelations as a child and thinking no way anyone would ever fall for the freakin anti-christ. little did i know that all he would have to do is be a racist and every white evangelical man and woman would gladly trade in Jesus for him.

Andrew Jackson could arguably be worse on the campaign/courting racists issues, but Trump did it at a time when most of polite society looked down upon it.

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3 hours ago, YGIFS said:

It's beyond the pale, even for America.

It's beyond the pale for ANYONE.  This is full on psychotic bullshit.  These people, the MILLIONS OF THEM, are completely broken.  I fully blame social media.  Our species is not built to handle this much information, true or not.  We are dumb monkeys and we have found out how to break ourselves.

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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

It's beyond the pale for ANYONE.  This is full on psychotic bullshit.  These people, the MILLIONS OF THEM, are completely broken.  I fully blame social media.  Our species is not built to handle this much information, true or not.  We are dumb monkeys and we have found out how to break ourselves.

Social media is just the last step.  Cable news networks put us on this path back in the 1980s, and dumb fucking talk shows and reality shows in the 80s and 90s built up the massive foundation that social media needed to take off.

Some kid gets kidnapped and killed on the other side of the country.  It's a parents' worst nightmare.  Prior to cable TV/cable news, if there was something truly horrifying or the people involved were notable in some way, we might see a small blurb in the paper (but probably only a "big city" newspaper that had the room to run that kind of stuff).

But when it happens in the early 1980s, just as more and more people were getting cable TV, and the cable news network(s) was still trying to find its footing and also fill out  24/7 coverage, *BOOM*, spread the details to millions of subscribers around the country, and have experts on talking about whether it could happen to YOUR child.  Oh, and repeat information about the case every so often throughout the day.

Even though the mass amount of child kidnappings/killings involved people who knew the kid (parents/relatives, non-custodial parents/relatives, friends), frame the coverage so that parents in California or Texas are scared shitless of their kid being killed by a stranger because they saw on TV that it happened in Florida.

Build upon that over the following decades - push non-stop programming meant to keep people coming back to their TVs.  Get them angry about shit that actually doesn't affect their lives.  Invent shit for them to get angry about. 

Drum up talk shows with fake guests and fake scenarios meant to get people riled up (DID YOU SEE YESTERDAY'S SHOW?  DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'S THE FATHER???).  Suck people into being concerned about fucking morons and their fucking moronic lives.  Make everybody from dumb fucking Cletuses and their 8 kids by 3 women to KKK members to drug addicts into minor celebrities by putting them on these shows, and create a new genre of reality shows where you take a bunch of nobodies and put them together and make them famous for no other reason than they answered a cattle call with thousands of others and the producers thought they had the look for whatever scripted role they had written.  There are still limits of course, namely the number of TV channels pushing that stuff, and the number of shows they can run on those channels, but the advertising money is there to make stupid fucking people care about stupid fucking things.

But then fast forward to the 2010s when Facebook and other social media really start to take off in ways that Ye Olde Email Chains weren't, and make it so that there is no barrier to entry (versus the costs of TV shows/stations) where Simple Joe Blow can spread bullshit around to all of his friends and family within minutes, and he's pulling the mentally ill and dumb people in his family into this Web of Bullshit.  They start going down rabbit holes that are meant to keep them coming back, and because of the ubiquitous nature of social media, these addicts can get their hit any time of day or night, it's always just a few inches away on their phone.

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And Trump used all three of those things to get to where  he's at now - he used the cable news networks to build up his brand in the 80s and 90s (including the lifestyle reality shows). He used a reality show in the 2000s/2010s to build his brand up even more and make dumb people think he was a business genius, and he pulled it all together with social media.

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On 3/19/2023 at 10:24 AM, Bama Chick said:

Seriously.

HILARIOUS



 

I mean I really dislike Trump, but it seems pretty extreme to crucify him; however, if his followers want him crucified so he can rise again in 3 days, who am I to stand in the way of this science experiment.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Jhawkmvp

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His ‘lawyer’ needs to stfu …

 

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6 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

His ‘lawyer’ needs to stfu …

 

That's only like 10,000 bananas 

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1 hour ago, Jhawkmvp said:

I mean I really dislike Trump, but it seems pretty extreme to crucify him; however, if his followers want him crucified so he can rise again in 3 days, who am I to stand in the way of this science experiment.

Can we get Trent Reznor to drive the nails through his hands and feet?

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its crazy how he is a blank slate for all the MAGA folks to project their racism and hatred onto. I saw a plan II thesis presentation on the similarities of white evangelicals and trump/far right. It is crazy how Trump / far right have tailored their messaging to fit the white racist christian belief systems. No major party American candidate before him had openly courted racists nor had anyone else openly pursued racist religious beliefs in a major US party campaign. They have positioned him to be Jesus and because he is willing to support racism, they overlook that they just might be supporting the "anti-christ"  
I remember reading Revelations as a child and thinking no way anyone would ever fall for the freakin anti-christ. little did i know that all he would have to do is be a racist and every white evangelical man and woman would gladly trade in Jesus for him.

QF the godawful truth of it all. I hate that this post is so right.

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So if shit goes down, when and how do we think we will actually know?  24 hours in advance?  Somebody leaking flight details?  NYPD setting up barricades?

 

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They can’t use a booking facility in fl ?

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Maga is taking about a human ‘patriot moat’ to protect dumbass 😂😂😂

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Social media is just the last step.  Cable news networks put us on this path back in the 1980s, and dumb fucking talk shows and reality shows in the 80s and 90s built up the massive foundation that social media needed to take off.

Some kid gets kidnapped and killed on the other side of the country.  It's a parents' worst nightmare.  Prior to cable TV/cable news, if there was something truly horrifying or the people involved were notable in some way, we might see a small blurb in the paper (but probably only a "big city" newspaper that had the room to run that kind of stuff).

But when it happens in the early 1980s, just as more and more people were getting cable TV, and the cable news network(s) was still trying to find its footing and also fill out  24/7 coverage, *BOOM*, spread the details to millions of subscribers around the country, and have experts on talking about whether it could happen to YOUR child.  Oh, and repeat information about the case every so often throughout the day.

Even though the mass amount of child kidnappings/killings involved people who knew the kid (parents/relatives, non-custodial parents/relatives, friends), frame the coverage so that parents in California or Texas are scared shitless of their kid being killed by a stranger because they saw on TV that it happened in Florida.

Build upon that over the following decades - push non-stop programming meant to keep people coming back to their TVs.  Get them angry about shit that actually doesn't affect their lives.  Invent shit for them to get angry about. 

Drum up talk shows with fake guests and fake scenarios meant to get people riled up (DID YOU SEE YESTERDAY'S SHOW?  DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'S THE FATHER???).  Suck people into being concerned about fucking morons and their fucking moronic lives.  Make everybody from dumb fucking Cletuses and their 8 kids by 3 women to KKK members to drug addicts into minor celebrities by putting them on these shows, and create a new genre of reality shows where you take a bunch of nobodies and put them together and make them famous for no other reason than they answered a cattle call with thousands of others and the producers thought they had the look for whatever scripted role they had written.  There are still limits of course, namely the number of TV channels pushing that stuff, and the number of shows they can run on those channels, but the advertising money is there to make stupid fucking people care about stupid fucking things.

But then fast forward to the 2010s when Facebook and other social media really start to take off in ways that Ye Olde Email Chains weren't, and make it so that there is no barrier to entry (versus the costs of TV shows/stations) where Simple Joe Blow can spread bullshit around to all of his friends and family within minutes, and he's pulling the mentally ill and dumb people in his family into this Web of Bullshit.  They start going down rabbit holes that are meant to keep them coming back, and because of the ubiquitous nature of social media, these addicts can get their hit any time of day or night, it's always just a few inches away on their phone.

As startling evidence of this, the federal sex offender registry law and some related draconian stuff, is called the Adam Walsh Act.

It's. Named. After. The. Host. Of. America's. Most.  Wanted.

It was an horrific crime, no doubt, but it happened 25 years before the Act.  

"The publicity that surrounded Adam's case and the widely watched television movie Adam also created what was described as a mid-1980s panic over stranger abductions, one that may have been out of proportion to the actual numbers and that has persisted for decades. Richard Moran, a criminologist at Mount Holyoke College says: "[The case] created a nation of petrified kids and paranoid parents. Kids used to be able to go out and organize a stickball game, and now all playdates and the social lives of children are arranged and controlled by the parents...the fear still lingers today."^[45] Early estimates by the NCMEC would state that as many as 20,000 children a year were abducted by strangers, and public service spots relayed the perceived danger. A 1985 Pulitzer Prize exposé discussed a "numbers gap" between the claimed number and other statistics, such as that the FBI investigated a total of 67 abductions by total strangers in 1984. By 1988, even as the NCMEC lowered annual estimates of stranger abductions by 80%, "early estimates had a life of their own." A 1990 study of child abductions found that 99% of them were family-related.^{[46][page needed]} In the 15 years between 2000 and 2015, the number of missing children ultimately killed decreased, partially attributed to the emergence of technologies such as mobile phones that allow calls for help."

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Hopefully, just so I can see the cops just lazily tube across. 

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It’s ok to break laws if it’s to prevent your wife  from finding out about an affair …

 

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Also, it was s good run but onto the next civilization ……

 

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6 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

It’s ok to break laws if it’s to prevent your wife  from finding out about an affair …

 

Pedo Dersh- "NYC would indict a ham sandwich, NYC would convict a ham sandwich."

Ok now it all makes sense. It's a witch hunt...a sand wich hunt.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

It’s ok to break laws if it’s to prevent your wife  from finding out about an affair …

 

I did note that even though it’s a commandment, one of only 10, expressly written in the Bible by god, no Christians seem to be clambering for laws at any level to make marital infidelity illegal. I just can’t figure out why that is. 

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24 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Also, it was s good run but onto the next civilization ……

Recall all of the civilizations that ended because some rich guy banged a porn star.  I'm pretty sure there were so many, that it took up a chapter or two in Western Civ classes.

13 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I did note that even though it’s a commandment, one of only 10, expressly written in the Bible by god, no Christians seem to be clambering for laws at any level to make marital infidelity illegal. I just can’t figure out why that is. 

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6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Recall all of the civilizations that ended because some rich guy banged a porn star.  I'm pretty sure there were so many, that it took up a chapter or two in Western Civ classes.

Does anyone else think that trump over paid ?

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5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

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NYT hypothetical Trump's refusal to travel to NYC for an arrest, forcing the DA to ask for Trump's extradition from Florida from....DeSantis.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/nyregion/trump-arrest-indictment-nypd.html

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He would be fingerprinted. He would be photographed. He could even be handcuffed.

And if Donald J. Trump is indicted by a Manhattan grand jury in the days ahead for his role in a hush money payment to a porn star, the former president of the United States of America will be read the standard Miranda warning: He will be told that he has the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.

 

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These are among the routine steps for felony arrests in New York. But the unprecedented arrest of a former commander in chief — one whose devoted supporters once staged a violent attack on the Capitol — will be anything but routine.

Last week, senior officials from the district attorney’s office and the state agency that runs the courts had preliminary discussions to plan for a possible indictment and arraignment. So did officials from the Police Department, which patrols the streets outside the Lower Manhattan courthouse, and the court officers, who handle security inside the Criminal Courts Building, where Mr. Trump would be arraigned.

 

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And on Sunday, more than a dozen senior Police Department officials and two of the mayor’s top public safety aides held a virtual meeting to discuss security, staffing and contingency plans in the event of any protests, one person with knowledge of the meeting said.

That meeting followed a call from Mr. Trump himself, in a post on his site Truth Social on Saturday morning: “PROTEST,” he exhorted his supporters. “TAKE OUR NATION BACK!”

The former president’s rallying cry, with an indictment looming, conjured up memories of the Jan. 6, 2020, assault on the Capitol.

 

Spoiler

Security is also a looming issue in the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, a Democrat who is the first Black person to lead the office. Mr. Trump has lashed out at the district attorney, calling him a racist and saying his investigation is politically motivated.

Mr. Bragg and one of his top aides have already been the targets of threats on Mr. Trump’s social media platform. In an email to staffers on Saturday, first reported by Politico, Mr. Bragg assured prosecutors and other staff that he had been coordinating with the Police Department and court officials to ensure their safety.

“We do not tolerate attempts to intimidate our office or threaten the rule of law in New York,” he wrote. “Our law enforcement partners will ensure that any specific or credible threats against the office will be fully investigated.”

Mr. Bragg’s security detail, which is staffed by New York Police Department detectives, may expand in the wake of Mr. Trump’s Saturday post; already the police have evaluated risks to his personal safety, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. In the past, the police department has adjusted its staffing based on its own assessment of the risk to a district attorney, another person with knowledge said.

In the wake of Mr. Trump’s public call for action, there were scattered signs that his followers were planning to protest on his behalf. The New York Young Republican Club announced on Sunday that it would hold a “peaceful protest of Alvin Bragg’s heinous attack” on Mr. Trump at an undisclosed location in Lower Manhattan on Monday evening.

On Saturday afternoon, the far-right provocateur Laura Loomer, who lives in Florida, declared on Twitter that she was organizing a pro-Trump rally outside Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s private club and residence in Palm Beach, to “protest Alvin Bragg’s WITCH HUNT.” But hours later, Ms. Loomer deleted the tweet and encouraged people to attend Mr. Trump’s upcoming political event in Texas instead.

On Twitter over the weekend, the far-right influencer Jack Posobiec called for Mr. Trump’s supporters to launch a “MAGA strike” and withdraw their money from banks en masse in an apparent effort to harm the financial system. Other Trump supporters circulated the main telephone number of Mr. Bragg’s office on social media and encouraged people to call and demand that charges not be filed against Mr. Trump.

Far darker messages were posted on pro-Trump chat boards like Patriots.win, a website formerly known as TheDonald.win, according to a review of social media by the The New York Times and by Advance Democracy Inc., a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that conducts public interest research. In its final report last year, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 determined that TheDonald.win served as an important nexus for people to discuss and make plans for the Capitol attack.

In the hours after Mr. Trump’s message was posted on Saturday, some posters on Patriots.win, mostly writing under pseudonyms, called for people to join together to protect Mr. Trump.

“Surround Mar-a-Lago or wherever he currently is,” a person named “sir-coffee” wrote, “and prevent law-enforcement from entering.”

Other posters called for a violent response to Mr. Trump’s arrest and said they would welcome harm being done to Mr. Bragg.

“I’d celebrate someone taking out that criminal DA,” someone using the name “trauncher” wrote.

If Mr. Trump is indeed indicted and arraigned, it will be one of the most unusual and closely watched court proceedings in New York history. And accommodation may be made for the former president.

While it is standard for defendants arrested on felony charges to be handcuffed, it is unclear whether they will make an exception for Mr. Trump because of his status. Most defendants have their hands cuffed behind their backs, but some white-collar defendants who are deemed to pose less of a danger have their hands secured in front of them.

After an arraignment, Mr. Trump would likely be released on his own recognizance because an indictment likely would contain only nonviolent felony charges; under New York law, prosecutors cannot request bail in most such cases.

Mr. Trump will almost certainly be accompanied at every step of the process — from the moment he is taken into custody until his appearance before a judge — by armed agents of the United States Secret Service, who are required by law to protect him at all times. Security in the courthouse is provided by New York State court officers, an agency with which the Secret Service has worked in the past. The chief spokesman for the Secret Service, Anthony J. Guglielmi, said he could not comment on any security arrangements for the former president.

It may take several days for the former president to appear at the courthouse. Once he has been indicted, prosecutors are expected to contact the former president’s defense lawyers to negotiate his surrender, a common practice in white-collar investigations when prosecutors have been in touch with defense attorneys.

Some lawyers working for Mr. Trump, who is running for president a third time, have said he will surrender to face the charges and fly from his Florida estate to New York for the arraignment.

The former president has made it clear he plans to use the charges as part of a campaign strategy to rile up his base.

Surrender, some might argue, is not in the confrontational former president’s DNA, and he often seems to relish antagonizing and attacking the prosecutors who have investigated him.

In the unlikely event that the former president refuses to surrender, he would put Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, his leading but undeclared rival for the Republican nomination, in an awkward political position. Under law, the role of Mr. DeSantis would be essentially ministerial and he would have few legal options other than approving an extradition request from New York.

Still, if New York prosecutors sought Mr. Trump’s extradition, Mr. DeSantis would face an unenviable dilemma. He would be compelled to choose between authorizing an arrest warrant for Mr. Trump and inflaming his base, or attempting in some way to aide his Republican rival, and possibly face legal action as a result.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Still, if New York prosecutors sought Mr. Trump’s extradition, Mr. DeSantis would face an unenviable dilemma. He would be compelled to choose between authorizing an arrest warrant for Mr. Trump and inflaming his base, or attempting in some way to aide his Republican rival, and possibly face legal action as a result.

Ain't no way DeSantis is sticking his neck out and risk legal action against himself, for a guy who has been trashing him and making fun of him, when the alternative is to let the guy be arrested and taken to NYC.  More importantly, Ron has seen what happens to guys like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush when they let Trump walk all over them and didn't challenge him - they are all now has-beens with no chance at the White House.

Ron can give a press conference and say "I don't agree with the charges, but I believe President Trump should be given a chance to address them in a court of law, and I'm not going to stand in the way of President Trump being given a chance to prove his innocence."
 

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9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

As startling evidence of this, the federal sex offender registry law and some related draconian stuff, is called the Adam Walsh Act.

It's. Named. After. The. Host. Of. America's. Most.  Wanted.  It was an horrific crime, no doubt, but it happened 25 years before the Act. 

It was an incredibly horrific crime, but it happened to one kid, and as a result of the wall-to-wall coverage on the cable networks and even the nightly news (which started feeding off of cable news), it changed parenting forever in this country.

As a parent I can't even begin to comprehend the pain and suffering they went through, but as a kid, I was pissed that it changed what we were allowed to do, and as a parent now, I don't feel like I can allow my kid to do certain things lest some busy-body Karen calls the cops and acts like I'm not watching my kid like a hawk.

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https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-senator-and-presidential-candidate-john-edwards-charged-alleged-role-scheme-violate

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9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

It was an incredibly horrific crime, but it happened to one kid, and as a result of the wall-to-wall coverage on the cable networks and even the nightly news (which started feeding off of cable news), it changed parenting forever in this country.

As a parent I can't even begin to comprehend the pain and suffering they went through, but as a kid, I was pissed that it changed what we were allowed to do, and as a parent now, I don't feel like I can allow my kid to do certain things lest some busy-body Karen calls the cops and acts like I'm not watching my kid like a hawk.

typical lobo derail.  But growing up in Chicago area.  I lived out the transition of "In my day, kids used to..." into "helicopter parenting" in real time.  First John Wayne Gacy.  Luring boys, molesting them, and killing them.  In/around near where we lived.  The guy who put in that box he would eventually die in was our neighbor's dad---Bill Kunkel.  Every parent in our neighborhood knew the Gacy shit backwards and forwards.  Then the Adam Walsh story, and of course---they make a fucking TV movie about it.  This was way before they made a movie about every horrific thing in America.  I still remember the Wasmunds having a "watch party" at their house.  And while we all played in the basement, you could hear their shock and horror upstairs.  And then the last piece, when Oprah was getting popular...she had that dipshit on in her Chicago studio talking about how many hundreds of thousands of kids are abducted each year and how in fear we should be.  Now, it's turns out...he wasn't that far off...but he was counting everything including a separated parent keeping their kid 1 hour over visitation hours on a saturday which ended up being like 90% of the stat.  We know now that this is commonplace, almost every Amber alert you see is some relative trying to keep a kid from another relative.  The guy stealing kids at playgrounds is like 1% of abductions.  

But between those three events, parents got awfully tense for a hot minute in the tri-state area.  A year later, it was back to letting us ride bikes 3 towns over, staying out until dusk in the summers, and riding 6 across the back seats of a car driven by somebody our parents didn't know.  But there was a time there in the early 80's where shit got real weird.  And now as a dad, I kinda get it.  A killer clown looking for young boys, an abducted kid found mutilated, and Chicago's newest favorite 'journalist' telling us no child is safe in public spaces.  

And this week?  A Presidential Clown named Trump will be arrested.  His emotionally mutilated children will look on pretend shock.  And 'journalists' at FoxNews will have to try and pretend they are outraged despite the deluge of texts to the contrary.  And for a day, we all get to be kids again.  

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If shit actually goes down, we all need to make sure and tell our MAGA friends and relatives that the Deep State finally got Trump.  Just really hammer home the point that this is all the Deep State's doing, thanks to George Soros's funding.  Just lean into it.  Maybe talk about how The Storm finally happened.

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No idea what's up with the right clown shoe or the "sword" that's swinging from his side and how it's attached to him.

[Goredho 17345]

45 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Ain't no way DeSantis is sticking his neck out and risk legal action against himself, for a guy who has been trashing him and making fun of him, when the alternative is to let the guy be arrested and taken to NYC.  More importantly, Ron has seen what happens to guys like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush when they let Trump walk all over them and didn't challenge him - they are all now has-beens with no chance at the White House.

Ron can give a press conference and say "I don't agree with the charges, but I believe President Trump should be given a chance to address them in a court of law, and I'm not going to stand in the way of President Trump being given a chance to prove his innocence."
 

Standing up to the feds to “protect Freedom” is one way DeSantis can really legitimize himself with the MAGA crowd.  Expect something showy that plays well with MAGAts, but that allows the wheels of justice to  still roll over his political rival.

Something like a fiery press conference with DeSantis holding an AR outside Mar-A-Lago vowing to help defend his state from invasion by federal forces of tyranny.  But when the raid actually happens, he will have been locked in a port-a-potty by George Soros’ elite spec ops forces to prevent him from manning the wall.

[Francisco 2.0 32318]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

No idea what's up with the right clown shoe or the "sword" that's swinging from his side and how it's attached to him.

 

Please tell me that is a velvet painting.  Someone needed to replace Elvis as the standard bearer of the format, so it might as well be Trump.

 

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by Francisco 2.0

[YGIFS 19449]

Our jokes aside, DeSantis' best play is in all actuality, some version of this.  

"Look, we're in unchartered waters...I should know, I was raised inside Tampa Bay.  This is largely political, and I'll leave it to the courts and President Trump to sort out.  But by refusing extradition, all I would be doing is stretching out this ruse for months.  And that plays right into the Democrats hands, they want to have this hanging over our party and our country for as long as possible.  We are not necessarily cooperating, but we are going to get out of the way and let President Trump refute these ridiculous charges, and do so on the record.  We're not going to entertain another FBI raid charade of Mar-a-Lago, that just gives the Democrats more political theater to exploit.  I'm going to let the grownups figure this out in a courtroom, which I know from my early days as a court attorney.  If there is any justice left in this once great country, President Trump will have these laughable charges dropped and we can all move on to the more pressing issues our country is facing.  Thank you."  

[Restless Native 315]

I just want to know who is going to tell him that he has the right to remain silent. Talk about a waste of breath.

[Fudge Nuggets 19146]

10 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Something like a fiery press conference with DeSantis holding an AR outside Mar-A-Lago vowing to help defend his state from invasion by federal forces of tyranny.

Be cool if US Marshals or whoever is in charge of executing the arrest warrant took the display of an AR as a threat to their safety and acted accordingly.  Blue Lives Matter and all that shit.

[Red Five 40633]

1 minute ago, Restless Native said:

I just want to know who is going to tell him that he has the right to remain silent. Talk about a waste of breath.

"Oh believe me, I know my rights. No one knows more about rights than I do, probably ever. We love the rights, don't we folks...."

[YGIFS 19449]

Actually, if you've watched any of his depositions.  When there's not an adoring crowd around him, he's learned in 50 years of exploiting the judicial system, when to shut the fuck up.  His persona is completely different.  He sits far back with his arms crossed, and just kinda stares vaguely.  Or he leans over the mic, elbows on the table, and almost never makes eye contact.  He's completely disconnected and a little part of his little brain tells him to press back and not ramble.