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9 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Giant duh.  I am kind of figuring there are a lot of prominent people from a lot of different backgrounds that are going to be named here.  I hope they all go down.

Yep. Obviously I want Trump to get his comeuppance, but I don't give a damn about any of their politics or charitable giving. Right, Left, Center, Bill Gates, Matt Gaetz, Gates of Hell... throw 'em all in max security and throw away the key.

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2 hours ago, Lobo said:

I’ve never been to the USVI, but I would assume a passenger manifest would be required by the FAA and local officials, in addition to the flight plan.
i. could see Clinton having the ability to be left off that list for security reasons (could claim secret service doesn’t like outsiders to know former Presidents travel patterns or some shit like that.   But no way Trump held that kind of sway back then.  
 

I’m sure he tried, “don’t write my name down.   I’m a famous billionaire.”  And the FBO official having to say, “sir, look around you…everybody here is a famous billionaire.  USVI won’t grant clearance until I send the manifest and plan.”  
 

of course we all know if this proves true, that MAQA nation won’t accept it.  It was a deep state antifa operator that posed as Trump to have sex with young girls.  

I don't think you need a passenger manifest for a private plane.  Not surly 1% though so not positive.

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Well every close Trump ally is going to be asked about this.  So let's let our resident Trumpers get out ahead of this thing.  Tell us fellow MAGA Surly-folks, what's the party line here on the Captain fingering Trump as a passenger on the Epstein plane to the USVI?  

A.  He's a deep state operative.  Probably in bed with Antifa/BLM.  

B.  The Captain is being coerced or bribed to say Trump was on those flights.  (Yeah, 'cause being caught lying in a federal district court judge is so lucrative these days...never mind the glamorous prison sentence that federal perjury carries with it)

C.  The Captain is just mistaken.  He thinks he saw Trump, but it was just John Glenn or George Mitchell.  You know how 5'10" octogenarians with white hair/no hair are often mistaken for 6'4"/280# behemoths with flowing golden hair?  Celebrity pilot or no celebrity pilot, even long before his Presidency, if you saw Donald Trump in person...you'd know you saw Donald Trump in person.

D.  Trump was on the plane as the Captain says.  But those flights were not to visit Epstein's island retreat, but rather for business purposes to look at potential properties in Florida and the Caribbean for the Trump Organization to acquire.  Epstein was kind enough to offer his very rich, very successful friend-Donald Trump a spot on his plane even though Trump had his own much larger, much more fantastic plane at the time.  This can further be corroborated by the fact that Trump later did use his plane to visit some of those same places as a follow-up to his initial business trips on Epstein's plane.  This can be proven by looking at the jet fuel/FBO costs that were business deducted on Trump's tax retu............Uh wait.  Never mind on that one.

E.  Okay, Trump was on that plane flying to that Island.  But he had no idea what went on there.  He thought it was a typical, "Bros only, no wives, no families" type of trip.  When his assistant asked what to pack and he replied, "No golf clubs, there's no course there.  No beachwear/swimwear, I don't like water---yes, I realize it's an island.  No hunting, no fishing, no sporting, just business attire and something to sleep in.  And some extra long ties."  And that's totally not weird or anything.  Just 8 guys flying in a private jet to an island featuring some bungalows and I guess........board games?  

F.  Okay Trump was on the plane and he knew it was a weird place and a weird trip with weird guys, but he didn't participate in anything.  If anything, Q was already in touch with him about getting in these guy's inner circle to eventually rise to the Oval and expose their web of sex trafficking.  

Can't wait to hear what some of y'all have to say on this. 

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2 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Well every close Trump ally is going to be asked about this.  So let's let our resident Trumpers get out ahead of this thing.  Tell us fellow MAGA Surly-folks, what's the party line here on the Captain fingering Trump as a passenger on the Epstein plane to the USVI?  

A.  He's a deep state operative.  Probably in bed with Antifa/BLM.  

B.  The Captain is being coerced or bribed to say Trump was on those flights.  (Yeah, 'cause being caught lying in a federal district court judge is so lucrative these days...never mind the glamorous prison sentence that federal perjury carries with it)

C.  The Captain is just mistaken.  He thinks he saw Trump, but it was just John Glenn or George Mitchell.  You know how 5'10" octogenarians with white hair/no hair are often mistaken for 6'4"/280# behemoths with flowing golden hair?  Celebrity pilot or no celebrity pilot, even long before his Presidency, if you saw Donald Trump in person...you'd know you saw Donald Trump in person.

D.  Trump was on the plane as the Captain says.  But those flights were not to visit Epstein's island retreat, but rather for business purposes to look at potential properties in Florida and the Caribbean for the Trump Organization to acquire.  Epstein was kind enough to offer his very rich, very successful friend-Donald Trump a spot on his plane even though Trump had his own much larger, much more fantastic plane at the time.  This can further be corroborated by the fact that Trump later did use his plane to visit some of those same places as a follow-up to his initial business trips on Epstein's plane.  This can be proven by looking at the jet fuel/FBO costs that were business deducted on Trump's tax retu............Uh wait.  Never mind on that one.

E.  Okay, Trump was on that plane flying to that Island.  But he had no idea what went on there.  He thought it was a typical, "Bros only, no wives, no families" type of trip.  When his assistant asked what to pack and he replied, "No golf clubs, there's no course there.  No beachwear/swimwear, I don't like water---yes, I realize it's an island.  No hunting, no fishing, no sporting, just business attire and something to sleep in.  And some extra long ties."  And that's totally not weird or anything.  Just 8 guys flying in a private jet to an island featuring some bungalows and I guess........board games?  

F.  Okay Trump was on the plane and he knew it was a weird place and a weird trip with weird guys, but he didn't participate in anything.  If anything, Q was already in touch with him about getting in these guy's inner circle to eventually rise to the Oval and expose their web of sex trafficking.  

Can't wait to hear what some of y'all have to say on this. 

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8 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

I don't think you need a passenger manifest for a private plane.  Not surly 1% though so not positive.

Never flown on one out of the Continental 48, but each time I've been on somebody's plane, I've had to give at least my full legal name.  If you have your own private airstrip and aren't filing your flight plan with the FAA because you're on VFR...you don't have to give 'em shit.  But typically most FBO's require names of who'll be coming in/out, particularly if you're using their services attached to a commercial airport (like at ABIA---Atlantic Aviation & Signature Flight).  If you're not attached to a commercial runway, I'm sure it's more lenient, like some little private airstrip out near hunting leases, ski resorts, etc.  

I'll leave it our pilots on Surly to chime in on this.  But I'm assuming many of his plane guests boarded at FBO's near major airports since they're big city guys.  The flight plans would also be a big "tell."  You can pair the person with the origin of the flight.  I would think you cannot opt for VFR from Los Angeles or Ohio all the fucking way to the USVI.  I can't see how they'd let anybody (except maybe Clinton) get away with that at the FAA.  Maybe, maybe, maybe from Miami.  But not from fucking New York either.  Been some airplane shit happened there last couple decades if they hadn't noticed.  

Don't matter, I'm sure those files are in the process of being conveniently lost in an upcoming fire later this evening.  

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4 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Never flown on one out of the Continental 48, but each time I've been on somebody's plane, I've had to give at least my full legal name.  If you have your own private airstrip and aren't filing your flight plan with the FAA because you're on VFR...you don't have to give 'em shit.  But typically most FBO's require names of who'll be coming in/out, particularly if you're using their services attached to a commercial airport (like at ABIA---Atlantic Aviation & Signature Flight).  If you're not attached to a commercial runway, I'm sure it's more lenient, like some little private airstrip out near hunting leases, ski resorts, etc.  

I'll leave it our pilots on Surly to chime in on this.  But I'm assuming many of his plane guests boarded at FBO's near major airports since they're big city guys.  The flight plans would also be a big "tell."  You can pair the person with the origin of the flight.  I would think you cannot opt for VFR from Los Angeles or Ohio all the fucking way to the USVI.  I can't see how they'd let anybody (except maybe Clinton) get away with that at the FAA.  Maybe, maybe, maybe from Miami.  But not from fucking New York either.  Been some airplane shit happened there last couple decades if they hadn't noticed.  

Don't matter, I'm sure those files are in the process of being conveniently lost in an upcoming fire later this evening.  

It won't matter if video of trump with 10 year olds is released.  It will all be some combination of a left wing witch hunt, SoCialiSm, Killary set him up, how was he to know that the girl was only 10/she looks 18,  and the FBI is a liberal agency out to get trump.

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Yeah, I'd like to think the 35% of U.S. adults that voted for him...at least a portion of them would take issue with him fucking underage girls.  The question will boil down to which percentage will deny that he did it/that it's a lie as you described (left wing witch hunt, deep fake, FBI entrapped him, etc.)---I can accept their craziness.  They're insane, but I can kinda play around that.  But the real bone chiller will be what percentage of his supporters, "Yeah, he fucked 'em.  So what?"

They either deny (Russia, net worth, sexual assault of adult women, et. al.) or they accept what he did and just don't care.  But that second category has never included child rape.  This will be a very interesting leap of faith to watch.  I'd say 1/3 say he did it and they will sever ties with him---saying they just used him for political ends and had no idea he was a monster like that.  1/3 will say it's a lie/a hoax/he didn't really do it and they'll fight to help clear his name.  But 1/3 will accept he did and just stare at the victims photographs and think "You served the greater good."  

I'm guessing it'll be at least a third of his 74mm voters.  We are going to bear witness to 25 million American adults acknowledge, 'He raped teenage and pre-teen girls.  And I'm okay with it.  Every great victory comes at great sacrifice.'  

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I know this is procedural (in theory), but this is just like when his term first started and the media was afraid to say he was lying.  We all know what happened.  It's fucking obvious.  It couldn't be more obvious.  So frustrating.

He was only impeached for it 10 months ago. It was sort of a big news story. I remember watching it on tv. So yeah, there may, MAY, be a connection between Trump and the insurrection. 

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7 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, I'd like to think the 35% of U.S. adults that voted for him...at least a portion of them would take issue with him fucking underage girls.  The question will boil down to which percentage will deny that he did it/that it's a lie as you described (left wing witch hunt, deep fake, FBI entrapped him, etc.)---I can accept their craziness.  They're insane, but I can kinda play around that.  But the real bone chiller will be what percentage of his supporters, "Yeah, he fucked 'em.  So what?"

They either deny (Russia, net worth, sexual assault of adult women, et. al.) or they accept what he did and just don't care.  But that second category has never included child rape.  This will be a very interesting leap of faith to watch.  I'd say 1/3 say he did it and they will sever ties with him---saying they just used him for political ends and had no idea he was a monster like that.  1/3 will say it's a lie/a hoax/he didn't really do it and they'll fight to help clear his name.  But 1/3 will accept he did and just stare at the victims photographs and think "You served the greater good."  

I'm guessing it'll be at least a third of his 74mm voters.  We are going to bear witness to 25 million American adults acknowledge, 'He raped teenage and pre-teen girls.  And I'm okay with it.  Every great victory comes at great sacrifice.'  

That second category also never included trying to overthrow the U.S. government.  Until it did.  

There is nothing they will not accept.  If for no other reason than they would have to admit that they were marks for the past five years.

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25 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, I'd like to think the 35% of U.S. adults that voted for him...at least a portion of them would take issue with him fucking underage girls.  The question will boil down to which percentage will deny that he did it/that it's a lie as you described (left wing witch hunt, deep fake, FBI entrapped him, etc.)---I can accept their craziness.  They're insane, but I can kinda play around that.  But the real bone chiller will be what percentage of his supporters, "Yeah, he fucked 'em.  So what?"

They either deny (Russia, net worth, sexual assault of adult women, et. al.) or they accept what he did and just don't care.  But that second category has never included child rape.  This will be a very interesting leap of faith to watch.  I'd say 1/3 say he did it and they will sever ties with him---saying they just used him for political ends and had no idea he was a monster like that.  1/3 will say it's a lie/a hoax/he didn't really do it and they'll fight to help clear his name.  But 1/3 will accept he did and just stare at the victims photographs and think "You served the greater good."  

I'm guessing it'll be at least a third of his 74mm voters.  We are going to bear witness to 25 million American adults acknowledge, 'He raped teenage and pre-teen girls.  And I'm okay with it.  Every great victory comes at great sacrifice.'  

50% will go with the lie/hoax and 50% will accept it.  

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Well every close Trump ally is going to be asked about this.  So let's let our resident Trumpers get out ahead of this thing.  Tell us fellow MAGA Surly-folks, what's the party line here on the Captain fingering Trump as a passenger on the Epstein plane to the USVI?  

A.  He's a deep state operative.  Probably in bed with Antifa/BLM.  

B.  The Captain is being coerced or bribed to say Trump was on those flights.  (Yeah, 'cause being caught lying in a federal district court judge is so lucrative these days...never mind the glamorous prison sentence that federal perjury carries with it)

C.  The Captain is just mistaken.  He thinks he saw Trump, but it was just John Glenn or George Mitchell.  You know how 5'10" octogenarians with white hair/no hair are often mistaken for 6'4"/280# behemoths with flowing golden hair?  Celebrity pilot or no celebrity pilot, even long before his Presidency, if you saw Donald Trump in person...you'd know you saw Donald Trump in person.

D.  Trump was on the plane as the Captain says.  But those flights were not to visit Epstein's island retreat, but rather for business purposes to look at potential properties in Florida and the Caribbean for the Trump Organization to acquire.  Epstein was kind enough to offer his very rich, very successful friend-Donald Trump a spot on his plane even though Trump had his own much larger, much more fantastic plane at the time.  This can further be corroborated by the fact that Trump later did use his plane to visit some of those same places as a follow-up to his initial business trips on Epstein's plane.  This can be proven by looking at the jet fuel/FBO costs that were business deducted on Trump's tax retu............Uh wait.  Never mind on that one.

E.  Okay, Trump was on that plane flying to that Island.  But he had no idea what went on there.  He thought it was a typical, "Bros only, no wives, no families" type of trip.  When his assistant asked what to pack and he replied, "No golf clubs, there's no course there.  No beachwear/swimwear, I don't like water---yes, I realize it's an island.  No hunting, no fishing, no sporting, just business attire and something to sleep in.  And some extra long ties."  And that's totally not weird or anything.  Just 8 guys flying in a private jet to an island featuring some bungalows and I guess........board games?  

F.  Okay Trump was on the plane and he knew it was a weird place and a weird trip with weird guys, but he didn't participate in anything.  If anything, Q was already in touch with him about getting in these guy's inner circle to eventually rise to the Oval and expose their web of sex trafficking.  

Can't wait to hear what some of y'all have to say on this. 

None of them will come in here and respond.  They are all cowards.

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Yeah, I'd like to think the 35% of U.S. adults that voted for him...at least a portion of them would take issue with him fucking underage girls.  The question will boil down to which percentage will deny that he did it/that it's a lie as you described (left wing witch hunt, deep fake, FBI entrapped him, etc.)---I can accept their craziness.  They're insane, but I can kinda play around that.  But the real bone chiller will be what percentage of his supporters, "Yeah, he fucked 'em.  So what?"

They either deny (Russia, net worth, sexual assault of adult women, et. al.) or they accept what he did and just don't care.  But that second category has never included child rape.  This will be a very interesting leap of faith to watch.  I'd say 1/3 say he did it and they will sever ties with him---saying they just used him for political ends and had no idea he was a monster like that.  1/3 will say it's a lie/a hoax/he didn't really do it and they'll fight to help clear his name.  But 1/3 will accept he did and just stare at the victims photographs and think "You served the greater good."  

I'm guessing it'll be at least a third of his 74mm voters.  We are going to bear witness to 25 million American adults acknowledge, 'He raped teenage and pre-teen girls.  And I'm okay with it.  Every great victory comes at great sacrifice.'  

RW "Christians"  "The Lord works in mysterious ways. "  Bank it. 

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2 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Are those all real?

Not only are they all real, but to quote President Trump himself (third one down)..."It is all not even believable!"  

So I guess you say it's pretty serious! 

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"All I have to do is lay out the facts---they are irrefutable!"  

Okay, so.........uh.  Um.  I'm not like a paid media consultant or anything, don't really know how to do like big reveals to maximize marketing results or whatever.  

After 13 months, this might be like a super awesome time to go ahead and, you know...lay out these irrefutable facts.  I mean you didn't want to do that while you were in office which would lend credence to said facts.  And you didn't want to do it in 64 different legal actions across dozens of states.  And you haven't done it since leaving office.  Again, you've forgotten more about marketing than I'll ever learn.  But President Trump, this could be like a fantastic, a huge if you will, opportunity to just go ahead and get those facts out to the public then.  So if you could go ahead and get on that, that would be great.  Mmmkay?  Thanks.

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2 hours ago, Lobo said:

Well every close Trump ally is going to be asked about this.  So let's let our resident Trumpers get out ahead of this thing.  Tell us fellow MAGA Surly-folks, what's the party line here on the Captain fingering Trump as a passenger on the Epstein plane to the USVI?  

A.  He's a deep state operative.  Probably in bed with Antifa/BLM.  

B.  The Captain is being coerced or bribed to say Trump was on those flights.  (Yeah, 'cause being caught lying in a federal district court judge is so lucrative these days...never mind the glamorous prison sentence that federal perjury carries with it)

C.  The Captain is just mistaken.  He thinks he saw Trump, but it was just John Glenn or George Mitchell.  You know how 5'10" octogenarians with white hair/no hair are often mistaken for 6'4"/280# behemoths with flowing golden hair?  Celebrity pilot or no celebrity pilot, even long before his Presidency, if you saw Donald Trump in person...you'd know you saw Donald Trump in person.

D.  Trump was on the plane as the Captain says.  But those flights were not to visit Epstein's island retreat, but rather for business purposes to look at potential properties in Florida and the Caribbean for the Trump Organization to acquire.  Epstein was kind enough to offer his very rich, very successful friend-Donald Trump a spot on his plane even though Trump had his own much larger, much more fantastic plane at the time.  This can further be corroborated by the fact that Trump later did use his plane to visit some of those same places as a follow-up to his initial business trips on Epstein's plane.  This can be proven by looking at the jet fuel/FBO costs that were business deducted on Trump's tax retu............Uh wait.  Never mind on that one.

E.  Okay, Trump was on that plane flying to that Island.  But he had no idea what went on there.  He thought it was a typical, "Bros only, no wives, no families" type of trip.  When his assistant asked what to pack and he replied, "No golf clubs, there's no course there.  No beachwear/swimwear, I don't like water---yes, I realize it's an island.  No hunting, no fishing, no sporting, just business attire and something to sleep in.  And some extra long ties."  And that's totally not weird or anything.  Just 8 guys flying in a private jet to an island featuring some bungalows and I guess........board games?  

F.  Okay Trump was on the plane and he knew it was a weird place and a weird trip with weird guys, but he didn't participate in anything.  If anything, Q was already in touch with him about getting in these guy's inner circle to eventually rise to the Oval and expose their web of sex trafficking.  

Can't wait to hear what some of y'all have to say on this. 

G.  HUNTER BIDEN!!!

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5 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

So he was on it multiple times?  I'm assuming there's no proof. 

 

3 hours ago, lemonlime said:

I don't think you need a passenger manifest for a private plane.  Not surly 1% though so not positive.

They got both O’Malley and Rodriquez on standby. 

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5 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Yep. Obviously I want Trump to get his comeuppance, but I don't give a damn about any of their politics or charitable giving. Right, Left, Center, Bill Gates, Matt Gaetz, Gates of Hell... throw 'em all in max security and throw away the key.

I don't particularly want to defend any of them, but is it not possible that some people were friendly with Epstein without pedo'ing?  Clinton?  Gates?  Someone?  Anyone?

I mean you can burn them all for associating with a pedo in any way, but the seemingly automatic assumption that anyone associated with Epstein diddled doesn't seem reasonable.

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40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I don't particularly want to defend any of them, but is it not possible that some people were friendly with Epstein without pedo'ing?  Clinton?  Gates?  Someone?  Anyone?

I mean you can burn them all for associating with a pedo in any way, but the seemingly automatic assumption that anyone associated with Epstein diddled doesn't seem reasonable.

Agreed, but at the same time, Epstein seemed liked the type who would get blackmail material on anybody he could.

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Think of what a lucky break our Democracy almost caught.  Could have had a half dozen of the biggest pieces of human shit ever to walk the Earth taken out without firing a single shot.  

But apparently those guys have access to good health care.  

Fuck.  Burns me up that he and his inner cadre almost died.  I prayed so hard for the virus.  Prayed the shit outta that prayer /dcross

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11 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Think of what a lucky break our Democracy almost caught.  Could have had a half dozen of the biggest pieces of human shit ever to walk the Earth taken out without firing a single shot.  

But apparently those guys have access to good health care.  

Fuck.  Burns me up that he and his inner cadre almost died.  I prayed so hard for the virus.  Prayed the shit outta that prayer /dcross

Trump surviving COVID is an extremely strong data point against a higher power/karma/forces beyond our control.

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