A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[tchookem 3986]

To the surprise of nobody, the 2017 Trump tax cuts aren't holding up..
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-opportunity-zones-became-tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down-economics-2022-1

Hopefully, the 2017 tax bill passed by former President Trump and the Republican-run Congress served as a kind of last hurrah for trickle-down economics as unquestioned dogma.

I'm sure they're totally gonna give that up now.

[Nolacycling 893]

"A Face in the Crowd" is on TCM 

[WhatTheBuck 28941]

20 hours ago, Nolacycling said:

"A Face in the Crowd" is on TCM 

And if there’s a Twilight Zone marathon on (check Decades or SyFy), or if you have it on one of your streaming services, be on the lookout for S04E04 “He’s Alive.”

 

[BrickHorn 18450]

22 hours ago, pacman said:

To the surprise of nobody, the 2017 Trump tax cuts aren't holding up..

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-opportunity-zones-became-tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down-economics-2022-1

Um…

Quote

Through decades of leadership by both political parties, conventional wisdom uncritically accepted the concept that handing money to the wealthiest Americans in the form of tax cuts and deregulation would eventually trickle down to everyone else. 

That’s some Anastasis-grade disingenuous bothsideserism right there. 

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

25 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Um…

That’s some Anastasis-grade disingenuous bothsideserism right there. 

I am hard pressed to remember a single Democrat in the modern era who has ever had anything kind to say about trickle-down bullshit. If you want to warp reality enough, you could say Phil Gramm, I suppose.

[WhatTheBuck 28941]

1 hour ago, Walden Ponderer said:

I am hard pressed to remember a single Democrat in the modern era who has ever had anything kind to say about trickle-down bullshit. If you want to warp reality enough, you could say Phil Gramm, I suppose.

Hell, George HW Bush called it “Voodoo Economics” while running against Reagan for the Republican nomination in 1980. (“Something ‘d-o-o economics.’”)

[Guest Lobo]

Whatever, Ben Stein.

[tx 3 putt 78763]

On 12/31/2021 at 4:02 PM, StassneyHorn said:

The Khashoggi hitmen are allegedly living it up. He was the Washington post journalist and permanent resident in the US killed by order of the Saudi prince. This story always had me worked up cause ai expected all media outlets to share a universal condemnation. But mixture of 24 hour news, Trump fatigue and next shiny ball took it out

https://www.businessinsider.com/members-khashoggi-hit-squad-living-in-seven-star-villas-report-2021-12

7 star resorts a thing ?

[Pato del Muerto 53603]

5 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

I am hard pressed to remember a single Democrat in the modern era who has ever had anything kind to say about trickle-down bullshit. If you want to warp reality enough, you could say Phil Gramm, I suppose.

Did gramm say it when a democrat or Republican?

[HornOnTheBayou 9068]

24 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

7 star resorts a thing ?

They are when you do favors for Saudi princes and oil sheiks. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10811]

6 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

I am hard pressed to remember a single Democrat in the modern era who has ever had anything kind to say about trickle-down bullshit. If you want to warp reality enough, you could say Phil Gramm, I suppose.

"Say"  - no. "Do" - yes

[Beau Vine 55893]

To be fair, Phil Gramm was about the stupidest economist ever to walk the earth.

[tx 3 putt 78763]

12 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

To be fair, Phil Gramm was about the stupidest economist ever to walk the earth.

the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act—was significantly to blame for the 2007 subprime mortgage crisis and 2008 global economic crisis.

[Bozo_Casanova 26910]

On 1/1/2022 at 1:21 PM, pacman said:

To the surprise of nobody, the 2017 Trump tax cuts aren't holding up..

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-opportunity-zones-became-tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down-economics-2022-1

@TahoeHorn says it's too soon to tell how the 2001 2003 2017 tax cuts will perform. And all ways will be. 

[henrygandorf 29229]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

7 star resorts a thing ?

it’s when a ritz carlton swallows an econolodge. 

[atomheartbevo 90679]

4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

7 star resorts a thing ?

It is in College Station.

[Brisketexan 107033]

Fucker just endorsed Orban (Hungary) for re-election.  Of course he did, because Fuckstick von Fuckstain has never met an authoritarian he doesn't like.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/03/trump-endorses-viktor-orban-hungary-526383

 

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2692]

Do former US Presidents commonly endorse candidates for office in foreign countries?  

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19337]

24 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Do former US Presidents commonly endorse candidates for office in foreign countries?  

I don't remember one ever doing so.

Also, just to note, TFG, Jr., and Ivanka have been subpoenaed by NY AG on property valuations.  

[WhatTheBuck 28941]

56 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Fucker just endorsed Orban (Hungary) for re-election.  Of course he did, because Fuckstick von Fuckstain has never met an authoritarian he doesn't like.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/03/trump-endorses-viktor-orban-hungary-526383

Orban vilifies George Soros even more than the GOP does.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Interesting wrinkle on the subpoenas and what can happen if they don’t comply -

Seize it all.

[Pato del Muerto 53603]

Don’t think I like the idea that your property is at stake if you refuse to testify.  Especially if there’s no limit or an outrageously high limit on seizure value. But it sure is compelling. 

[Native Horn 3582]

well hopefully they DO testify (fat chance) and have their shit seized anyway.

[Longhorn_Fan68 34108]

12 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think I like the idea that your property is at stake if you refuse to testify.  Especially if there’s no limit or an outrageously high limit on seizure value. But it sure is compelling. 

well, maybe don't do fucking crimes. I dunno.

[SimonBolivar 11068]

On 12/22/2021 at 2:44 AM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Almost 100 years ago...

By the way if anyone subscribes to the NYT and doesn't spend their entire day at work on the TimesMachine then they are a human waste.

[Fudge Nuggets 19478]

40 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Don’t think I like the idea that your property is at stake if you refuse to testify.  Especially if there’s no limit or an outrageously high limit on seizure value. But it sure is compelling. 

I'm glad to see the "elites" learning about the consequences of civil forfeiture laws. 

[RomaVicta 30642]

56 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Interesting wrinkle on the subpoenas and what can happen if they don’t comply -
 

 

Seize it all.

 

Oh, why not add:

Edited January 3, 2022 by RomaVicta

[Sbbruin 22147]

On 1/1/2022 at 11:21 AM, pacman said:

To the surprise of nobody, the 2017 Trump tax cuts aren't holding up..

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-opportunity-zones-became-tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down-economics-2022-1

OZ's are interesting.  They do promote investments in poorer communities that would otherwise be bypassed by developers.  On the flip side, I've seen it already lead to gentrification that has begun to displace the poors.   

[Sbbruin 22147]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Fucker just endorsed Orban (Hungary) for re-election.  Of course he did, because Fuckstick von Fuckstain has never met an authoritarian he doesn't like.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/03/trump-endorses-viktor-orban-hungary-526383

 

I got the finger from immortal (RIP) for posting essentially the same thing re: rocket man.

[TwiceHorn 32108]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

Interesting wrinkle on the subpoenas and what can happen if they don’t comply -
 

 

Seize it all.

 

I think that's a little off.  A court may hold the deponent/witness (the object/target of a subpoena) in contempt, and fine them and jail them "civilly" until they comply.  Or, failing that, hold them in criminal contempt, subjecting them to whatever penalties NY law has for people guilty of criminal contempt.

But the NY AG has no power to "rule against" people.  A court does.  And, other than attempting to collect any contempt fines, there would be no provision for seizure of assets;  unless there is something very aberrant in NY law relating to investigatory subpoenas.

If there was an ongoing civil suit and these were discovery requests, then yes, a court could actually enter judgment against the discovery abusers.

In any event, these aren't congressional subpoenas with their limited remedies.  They are judicial, and the judiciary has the ability to make life quite uncomfortable for those who willingly do not comply with valid subpoenas.

Edited January 3, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[Goredho 17663]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Orban vilifies George Soros even more than the GOP does.

The international canal trying to take over our politics isn’t from the left.

[Willfully Horn 8284]

10 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

I got the finger from immortal (RIP) for posting essentially the same thing re: rocket man.

It one of those things that some believe ought not be said. The truth, you see, is very rude.

[atomheartbevo 90679]

2 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Do former US Presidents commonly endorse candidates for office in foreign countries?  

I want to say that there were some endorsements after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and into the 2000s, endorsements of people in Eastern Europe who were democracy- or reform-minded.

[Willfully Horn 8284]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I want to say that there were some endorsements after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and into the 2000s, endorsements of people in Eastern Europe who were democracy- or reform-minded.

Why Obama just endorsed Emmanuel Macron for president of France

Vox linked spoilered due to strident font size.

Spoiler

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/5/4/15542346/obama-emmanuel-macron-endorsement

 

 

 

[TwiceHorn 32108]

Also, on the subpoena deal, the reason it has reached the news is that NY AG and the Trump parties both moved the court that had heard prior subpoena/deposition disputes to hear theirs.  So it isn't to the point of outright defiance of the subpoenas, but fairly run-of-the-mill wrangling over their scope.

Whole thing is, as yet, much ado about nothing.

[Macanudo 13341]

1 hour ago, Goredho said:

The international canal trying to take over our politics isn’t from the left.

Canal, cabal.   220, 221.  Whatever it takes.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13637]

2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I'm glad to see the "elites" learning about the consequences of civil forfeiture laws. 

Civil asset forfeiture? Well, we don't need for them to refuse to comply. Hell, we don't even need a reason.

[RomaVicta 30642]

Canal. Cabal. Cannibal. 

It's gettin' deep. As in heavy.

[Guest Lobo]

Did somebody say Cannonball? 

 

[shakahorn 1660]

21 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Did gramm say it when a democrat or Republican?

yes

[Biff Tannen 46205]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Also, on the subpoena deal, the reason it has reached the news is that NY AG and the Trump parties both moved the court that had heard prior subpoena/deposition disputes to hear theirs.  So it isn't to the point of outright defiance of the subpoenas, but fairly run-of-the-mill wrangling over their scope.

Whole thing is, as yet, much ado about nothing.

[henrygandorf 29229]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Canal. Cabal. Cannibal. 

It's gettin' deep. As in heavy.

[Fudge Nuggets 19478]

[Satchel 6983]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Fucker just endorsed Orban (Hungary) for re-election.  Of course he did, because Fuckstick von Fuckstain has never met an authoritarian he doesn't like.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/03/trump-endorses-viktor-orban-hungary-526383

 

Biden invited 100 world leaders to his democracy summit and Orbán didn’t make the cut. His biggest supporter in Europe is Putin. Why don’t conservatives see Trump for what he really is?

[DDD Dad 14663]

1 minute ago, Satchel said:

Biden invited 100 world leaders to his democracy summit and Orbán didn’t make the cut. His biggest supporter in Europe is Putin. Why don’t conservatives see Trump for what he really is?

They don't care.

[Satchel 6983]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

They don't care.

Is it they don’t care or they can’t deal with the reality of Trump’s seditious and treasonous behavior?

[Bullneck 19574]

POLITICS

NY Attorney General Subpoenas Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr.

The Trumps have indicated they will fight the subpoenas and are expected to file court papers through their lawyers seeking to have them thrown out.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-new-york-attorney-general-subpoena_n_61d33003e4b04b42ab769177

Edited January 3, 2022 by Bullneck

[Longhorn_Fan68 34108]

1 minute ago, Satchel said:

Is it they don’t care or they can’t deal with the reality of Trump’s seditious and treasonous behavior?

yes

[Chuckie Finster 23099]

1 minute ago, Satchel said:

Is it they don’t care or they can’t deal with the reality of Trump’s seditious and treasonous behavior?

Orban hates the libs.  It's the only thing that matters.

[Brisketexan 107033]

10 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Biden invited 100 world leaders to his democracy summit and Orbán didn’t make the cut. His biggest supporter in Europe is Putin. Why don’t conservatives see Trump for what he really is?

They do see him for who he is.

8 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

They don't care.

They do care.

PROBLEM:  THEY LIKE IT.

When you realize that American "conservatives" don't look past Trump's fascist authoritarian dreams, but rather they SHARE them.....then you'll understand why we're so utterly fucked.