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6 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Crazy how crime just seems to follow Trump and victimize him.  Prior to running, hookers and adultery, bone spurs and bad real estate deals seemed to embroil him.  He's a lightning rod to multiple forms of corruption and crime apparently.   The man is just a mark apparently so we elected him.  And then more corruption and crime tried to take him down while those criminal Democrats that are always being investigated are running free.  

When you meet one asshole  . . . .

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To be fair, President Trump’s four years in office weren’t so bad, except when when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, treason does have a pretty specific meaning, particularly in the context of crimes.

That whole law thing is just full of technicalities.

I know you’re right, treason is one of the crimes I don’t think Trump has credibly committed yet but give him time.

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55 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I think he's off base with throwing out treason even as a remote possibility but I didn't put the timing of the video subpoena together with the timeline. This article (spoilered) lays out the details.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/12/john-solomon-and-kash-patel-may-be-implicated-in-the-trump-related-espionage-act-investigation/

 

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On June 22, Kash Patel announced that he had just been made a representative for Trump at the National Archives. (h/t to Suburban Gal for these links)

I can tell you now that I am now officially a representative for Donald Trump at the National Archives. And I’m going to march down there — I’ve never told anyone this, because it just happened, and I’m going to identify every single document that they blocked from being declassified at the National Archives.

The next day, Kash described that that letter, making him Trump’s representative to the Archives, “just came in, literally before I came on the show” the day before.

As it happens, June 22 is also the same day that the FBI sent a subpoena to Mar-a-Lago for surveillance footage.

On June 22, the Trump Organization, the name for Mr. Trump’s family business, received a subpoena for surveillance footage from cameras at Mar-a-Lago. That footage was turned over, according to an official.

According to a John Solomon column that was actually the first to report details of this purported cooperation in June, the subpoena specifically asked for surveillance videos covering the room where Trump had stashed his stolen documents.

Around the same time, the Trump Organization, which owns Mar-a-Lago, received a request for surveillance video footage covering the locker and volunteered the footage to federal authorities, sources disclosed.

On June 24, two days after DOJ sent a subpoena for the surveillance footage, Betsy Woodruff Swan reported that it wasn’t just Kash who had been given privileged access to Trump’s Archives. Solomon had also been made Trump’s representative at the Archives.

That seeming coincidence — that the FBI formally asked for surveillance videos showing who had accessed Trump’s stash of stolen records on the same day that Kash and Solomon were officially added to the list of those who represented Trump’s interests with the Archives — may raise the stakes of Trump’s legal exposure significantly.

That’s because if Trump deliberately allowed people not permitted access to classified documents or his negligence allowed people to remove such documents, it would trigger other parts of the Espionage Act than the one that prohibits someone from stealing classified documents and refusing to give them back (and all are covered by the warrant).

(d)Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

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(f)Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Neither of these men would have been authorized to access classified documents, if they did, after January 20, 2021.

Solomon, of course, has come under scrutiny for his role as a mouthpiece for Russian-backed attacks on Joe Biden. While DOJ was not known to have obtained a warrant on him by April 2021, much could have happened after that.

Kash Patel did have the top levels of clearance until Trump left office. But at least by April 2021, Kash was reported to be under investigation for leaking classified information.

Patel repeatedly pressed intelligence agencies to release secrets that, in his view, showed that the president was being persecuted unfairly by critics. Ironically, he is now facing Justice Department investigation for possible improper disclosure of classified information, according to two knowledgeable sources who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe. The sources said the investigation resulted from a complaint made this year by an intelligence agency, but wouldn’t provide additional details.

Once that investigation was predicated, Kash would have been stripped of clearance, if he hadn’t already been.

Which means both the men that Trump picked to dig through his documents would pose grave security concerns.

And Kash, at least, is the single witness claiming — belatedly, starting in May — that Trump declassified this information. Before much of this became public, Kash claimed Trump had declassified it all, but just not marked it as declassified.

“Trump declassified whole sets of materials in anticipation of leaving government that he thought the American public should have the right to read themselves,” Patel told Breitbart News in a phone interview.

“The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t declassified,” Patel said. “I was there with President Trump when he said ‘We are declassifying this information.’”

“This story is just another disinformation campaign designed to break the public trust in a president that lived on transparency. It’s yet another way to attack Trump and say he took classified information when he did not,” he added.

At the point he made those claims, in May, Kash demonstrated extensive familiarity with the content of that first batch of stolen classified documents that had been stashed at Mar-a-Lago for a year.

Patel did not want to get into what the specific documents were, predicting claims from the left that he was disclosing “classified” material, but said, “It’s information that Trump felt spoke to matters regarding everything from Russiagate to the Ukraine impeachment fiasco to major national security matters of great public importance — anything the president felt the American people had a right to know is in there and more.”

If Kash knows that first-hand — if Kash knows that because Trump let him wade through Top Secret documents he was no longer cleared to access — then Trump may have additional criminal liability.

 

If Kash Patel goes down with DOTARD, I would be very gruntled

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2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

That reminds me, didn't Putin pay bounties to kill our troops?

Ahhh sheeeeeit, the brightest Anastasis bat signal on the board. 

 

43 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Has Anastasis come in here yet to remind us about all the bad things Obama did?

Was wondering myself where our resident one side wolf in both sides sheep clothing has been. 

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1 minute ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Ahhh sheeeeeit, the brightest Anastasis bat signal on the board. 

 

Was wondering myself where our resident one side wolf in both sides sheep clothing has been. 

He'll be around to just ask questions and promote both sides once the smoke clears.  Besides, he hates Trump like the other 68 million non Trumpers that voted for him. 

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1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

No shit.

The old white men like my dad who mainline Fox News don’t know what a fucking meme is. Shit, I bet most Americans don’t know what a meme is either.

Just because we’re all terminally very online people we assume everyone else is too.

I’ll bet a lot of terminally very online people don’t know that a meme was a thing long before an internet meme was a thing, long before the web was a thing, nor what a meme is, nor who came up with the name.

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1 hour ago, TXSG8R said:

More questions, did this classified info have the required document covers that prevents accidental reading and clearly marks the item as classified?  If the GSA employee can enter the WH and pack up stuff in the WH, it’s almost certain they have a clearance. With a clearance you get annual refresher training on handling and storage of classified material. Someone with that training would know you don’t put classified shit into cardboard boxes in the back of a truck for transportation. It requires a courier card, document carrier, etc. Were archivists also not present for this packing of material to ensure that presidential material wouldn’t accidentally be shipped to MAL?  An archivist didn’t recognize classified markings on documents?  

Eric and Junior packed the Uhaul

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11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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CSB, Pete was my macro economics professor. Shockingly, Entire class hated him for being a narcissistic xenophobe. Most of his required reading were his own books.

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41 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Ahhh sheeeeeit, the brightest Anastasis bat signal on the board. 

 

Was wondering myself where our resident one side wolf in both sides sheep clothing has been. 

Guys, we've all stolen and disclosed national secrets before. And really, it only happens because other nations act in their best interests. So, in conclusion, the US is bad and probably to blame for all problems in the world. Further, Democrats are the same as Republicans. QED. 

-Anastasis

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

So you are contending that the reason employed by “aggiehawg” from the Texags politics subforum may be unsound? Please let Billy Liucci know immediately. He would not want this kind of thing reflecting poorly on his enterprise.

Aggiehawg claims to be a retired lawyer with significant appellate experience. I wandered over there quite a bit during the post- election litigation orgy. Her takes were always laughably bad. She probably thinks Pence still has the power to ignore the electors. 

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Guys, we've stolen and disclosed national secrets before. And really, it only happens because other nations act in their best interests. So, in conclusion, the US is bad and probably to blame for all problems in the world. Further, democrats are the same as Republicans. QED. 

-Anastasis

Didn't mention bombing brown people - C-.

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I work from home 80% of the time and pretty sure if I click on some phishing link that brings my company to its knees my ass is getting no-lubed.

Knew a guy at a previous company who stopped off for HH after work, left his laptop in the back seat.  It got stolen, his ass got fried.  And he was a fucking ex Marine outstanding employee, didn't matter....

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7 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

This is the question that I wish the media had the balls to ask.

This fucking guy was notorious for not reading his daily national security briefing.  So why on earth would he want to take 15 boxes of top secret documents with him when he left?  There's only one reason that makes any sense.  And this piece of shit should hang.

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1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

God I hope the trial is televised 

All I know is I can't wait to see the same lawyers who couldn't get one judge out of more than 50 to bite on the election gambit bullshit try to defend him against treason, sedition, conspiracy, obstruction, whatever.

Poor fucking Johnny Cochrane rolling over in his grave.  

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2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

All I know is I can't wait to see the same lawyers who couldn't get one judge out of more than 50 to bite on the election gambit bullshit try to defend him against treason, sedition, conspiracy, obstruction, whatever.

Poor fucking Johnny Cochrane rolling over in his grave.  

How many more lawyers will lose their bar license representing his bullshit? Over under at 3

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