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  On 8/13/2022 at 8:44 PM, TwiceHorn said:

Well, if you mean long ago in terms of prior to January 20, 2017, then I wholly agree.  And Trump is far from the only of his ilk that has gone unpunished.

But if you mean any time between January 20, 2017 and January 20, 2021, then you were/are being naive.

Coincidentally, Reality Winner was convicted of 18 USC 793(e). https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-government-contractor-georgia-charged-removing-and-mailing-classified-materials-news

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Hugo? Naive? No way!

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It is true, however, that Trump is the first person of color to have his home searched on suspicion of being in illegal possession of government nuclear secrets.

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  On 8/13/2022 at 9:23 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, and she did time.  She absolutely did the crime and the time.  Not sure what your point here is. 

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An observation.  The game has changed.  Trump didn't get prosecuted for his in-office crimes because he's virtually immune while in office and any thought to the contrary, that Mueller or anyone else was going to go against that DOJ/OLC policy, was naive.

That doesn't mean he won't.  Past failures are not predictive of future failures.

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  On 8/13/2022 at 9:31 PM, TwiceHorn said:

An observation.  The game has changed.  Trump didn't get prosecuted for his in-office crimes because he's virtually immune while in office and any thought to the contrary, that Mueller or anyone else was going to go against that DOJ/OLC policy, was naive.

 

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I never thought Mueller was going to arrest Trump but I also didn’t expect Trump to go unpunished for 1/6.  Garland’s DOJ let the statute of limitations expire on Trump’s obstruction crimes while in office.  Sweeping everything under the rug has worked out great so far. 

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  On 8/13/2022 at 8:14 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

Presenting the Glomar Explorer.

 

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Great, great documentary, BTW.  Find it at your favorite streaming thingy

 

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I'm about an hour in.  The narrator has an annoying accent, and the sound quality generally sucks.  But it's a very interesting story.  Thanks for the rec. 

 

 

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  On 8/13/2022 at 5:48 PM, MissingInAction said:

I made the mistake of responding to my biological father who is magatard all the way. Thought he might have come around but nope. 

He started with the fox news bullshit and when I shot that down he regressed to his toddler defense strategy of repeating ""Hillarys emails" over and over in a shrieking tone. 

Can I have him committed?

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No, because we have no mental health framework in this country. Good luck!

Finally catching up on the last 24 hours or so. So 45 lawyers said everything was returned and it wasn't? For fucks sake, when will this shit end? If this shithead has done anything it has been to expose the massive gaps in our legal framework. It's pretty impressive, actually, how consistent these fucks have been at navigating gray areas where a small amount of obfuscation creates compete chaos. The good news, i think, is it appears they stepped in it on this one. I don't join the normal naysayers on this one. I don't see how you get around selling nuclear secrets. A lot of shit is making more sense now. Like pencil dick Jared Kushner getting $2b from the Saudis for seemingly no fucking reason. 

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  On 8/13/2022 at 2:49 PM, Captainant said:

I mean, isn't that how you take down a mob boss? Keep squeezing his toadies until he either runs out of support to maintain power, or until enough of them flip to take him down. 

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that's one way.  otherwise it's usually a bunch of his toadies that get together and whack him.  usually in a public place in front of his family.

i'll take either option but leaning the latter.

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Posted
  On 8/14/2022 at 12:07 AM, lemonlime said:

The rot is deep.

 

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lesson here - when it's trump vs the rule of law, it's the rule of law that is wrong and needs to be changed.

it's been a good-ish run, but it's time to assume that the president may be a self-serving piece of garbage who doesn't have the best interest of his nation in mind, instead of the other way around.  we need laws to reflect that. 

it should be happening 'now' while a dem is in the white house, to make it look like it's only restricting the current president, but we've already seen the gop won't pass anything under biden.  they don't read bills or know what they're even voting against, nor do they try to defend their actions (votes) in public.

gas prices, insulin, inflation, nope.

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  On 8/14/2022 at 12:16 AM, henrygandorf said:

lesson here - when it's trump vs the rule of law, it's the rule of law that is wrong and needs to be changed.

it's been a good-ish run, but it's time to assume that the president may be a self-serving piece of garbage who doesn't have the best interest of his nation in mind, instead of the other way around.  we need laws to reflect that. 

it should be happening 'now' while a dem is in the white house, to make it look like it's only restricting the current president, but we've already seen the gop won't pass anything under biden.  they don't read bills or know what they're even voting against, nor do they try to defend their actions (votes) in public.

gas prices, insulin, inflation, nope.

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Laws are words on pieces of paper.  I think the lesson here is it doesn't matter what the law says.  It matters if the people in power are good faith actors.  The GQP clearly is not, and regardless of words in books, will ignore, circumvent, and raise up a mob against the rule of law.

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“Here check out this video of Trump stabbing a guy in the throat.”
®: “Well I for one think it is way past time to decriminalize murder.”

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Anyone else thinking about these boxes being politely requested and the rather different confrontation between the poor air conditioner repairman in Houston who was run off the road and held at gunpoint by the former police captain who thought the driver had a van full of fraudulent ballots?

 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/13/trump-mar-a-lago-search/

 

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As FBI agents pulled up to Donald Trump’s Florida club Monday morning to conduct a search for top-secret government documents — approved by a federal judge and requested by the attorney general of the United States — the former president was by chance already huddled with his lawyers in Trump Tower in New York, a thousand miles to the north.

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They were supposed to be preparing Trump to be deposed later in the week in an entirely different matter, a civil probe of Trump’s family business. But the session was interrupted by a phone call informing the former president of the extraordinary events unfolding at his Mar-a-Lago Club, said Ron Fischetti, his New York attorney.

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Trump and his close allies quickly became transfixed by the events unfolding in Palm Beach, people familiar with the day said. Some monitored the agents via CCTV security cameras as they searched Trump’s office and personal quarters and a first-floor storage facility, another of his lawyers, Christina Bobb, told Fox News. Distracted, Trump kept jumping on the phone, Fischetti said, trying to figure out why the agents, casually dressed in khakis and polo shirts to cause less of a scene, were roaming the seaside facility he had tried to brand “the winter White House,” which was mostly closed for the summer.

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Posted
  On 8/14/2022 at 12:16 AM, Chopper said:

Newsweek, for anyone who doesn't know, went out of business several years ago and some crackpot purchased the domain for a pittance, and now that site publishes purely bullshit for clicks. Nobody should waste a minute reading newsweek. Newsweek and the Rise of the Zombie Magazine

Also just wanted to give a shoutout to whomever handles social media for yahoo news. screenshot for posterity but https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1558577820971847681image.thumb.png.b6eb2020c6252f5cf37c08f564a1e24b.png

 

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Same criticism can be be made of USN&WR whose online presence exists for the sole purpose of doing a ridiculous job of ranking colleges for gullible people.

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  On 8/14/2022 at 12:56 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/13/trump-mar-a-lago-search/

 

 

 

 

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I fucking love it.  Stroke out, motherfucker.

Also, props to @Francisco 2.0 for providing a steady stream of this content.  Copyright infringement though it may be.

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Two top House lawmakers Saturday asked the nation’s intelligence chief to review potential damage to national security stemming from former President Donald Trump’s storage of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.

“Former President Trump’s conduct has potentially put our national security at grave risk. This issue demands a full review, in addition to the ongoing law enforcement inquiry,” wrote House Intelligence committee chair Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and House Oversight committee chair Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) in a three-page letter to Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines. They asked for a classified briefing on the review “as soon as possible.”

The two lawmakers, whose panels have jurisdiction over national security and other oversight matters, specifically asked for the DNI’s office to initiate a damage assessment, which would evaluate any harm to national security related to Trump’s handling of the documents. It comes just a day after an unsealed search warrant revealed the FBI was investigating former President Donald Trump for obstruction of justice and potential violation of the Espionage Act.

 
 

A receipt accompanying the search warrant showed Trump had documents at Mar-a-Lago marked “TS/SCI,” which indicates one of the highest levels of government classification.

The outreach from the two lawmakers marks the first major oversight step by House committees in the wake of the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago.

A spokesperson for the Director of National Intelligence did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Maloney’s panel had stepped up a probe into Trump’s handling of documents earlier this year, though the Department of Justice ended up taking the lead on the investigation. It’s not immediately clear if the House Judiciary Committee, which oversees the DoJ, will take any steps toward oversight. House Judiciary chair Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO Friday he didn’t think they needed any briefing from the DoJ on the search of Mar-a-Lago because “there’s nothing to be briefed. It was a normal execution of a normal search warrant.”

Some of the most highly sensitive concerns related to Trump’s handling of the documents might be briefed to the so-called “gang of eight,” or the top party leaders in both chambers and the heads of the intelligence committees, but as of Friday morning Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters she did not know “any more than is in the public domain.”

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