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To be fair, President Trump’s four years in office weren’t so bad, except when when he incited an insurrection against the government, mismanaged a pandemic that killed nearly half a million Americans

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Y’all about to get a great visual representation of Cullman, Alabama. Only good things to come out of Cullman are the Britt brothers (Roll Tide!) and orange rolls from All Steak restaurant. That pla

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You seem really pissed off for a nontrumper.  Just laugh at the trumpers, bro.  They’re really gullible dumbfucks who worship this orange blob…you know, people completely unlike yourself.  

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Well, Trump claims he's smarter than all the scientists and generals, why would anyone not believe he feels the same way about lawyers?

I've been in more lawsuits than anybody. I know more than the lawyers. I'm smarter than the Supreme Court jusheshes... and judge guys I put in the court. Nobody ever talks about that. Fake news won't tell you that. I'll run my own lawyer...and lawsuit. I'll just get some guys to sign the documents. Top guys. I only get top guys. But I know more than even the top guys. I woulda been a great lawyer. Guy came up to me the other day, big guy...

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This fucking guy. Right off the bat in the introduction, first sentence (from Sidis' link)

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He had to have largely dictated this shit.

"Let's start with how important I am as President of the United States because we all know that I am."

Eyebrows raise. Trump glowers. Eyebrows return to submissive position.

Trump continues, "Where were we?"

"I think we were still fluffing, Mr. President, sir."
 

 

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This fucking guy. Right off the bat in the introduction, first sentence (from Sidis' link)

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He had to have largely dictated this shit.

"Let's start with how important I am as President of the United States because we all know that I am."

Eyebrows raise. Trump glowers. Eyebrows return to submissive position.

Trump continues, "Where were we?"

"I think we were still fluffing, Mr. President, sir."
 

 

"leads the incumbent President by 5 points if a general election were held today." that's pretty impressive for a June 2022 poll to predict about August 2022. I also bet he complained to his clown attorneys about admitting that someone else is "the incumbent President" so that's another LOL

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On 8/15/2022 at 10:03 PM, Bama Chick said:

 


Which date are they going to?

I’m not sure if I can swing another trip so soon after my NYC trip but I may just say fuck it lol.

Two of his shows are Sunday night ones so I could conceivably fly out on Saturday and fly home on Monday and only miss one day of work.

The Austin ticket prices are much MUCH lower than the NYC ones and if the airfare is right…….

Y’all got any recommendations for a nice, safe, reasonably priced hotel near the Moody Center?

I’ve never been to Austin so I don’t know shit about fuck.

 

I'll find out and send you a DM.

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Umm, how can a search be unwarranted, when the warrant was presented before the search began?  That sounds like the very definition of a warranted search.  Fucker is wrong in the very first sentence.  I didn't bother to read the rest.

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I'll find out and send you a DM.

Umm, how can a search be unwarranted, when the warrant was presented before the search began?  That sounds like the very definition of a warranted search.  Fucker is wrong in the very first sentence.  I didn't bother to read the rest.

You see, Trump is a moron. He literally sees a word and says the opposite. Warranted becomes Unwarranted. Select becomes Unselect. 

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The notion of a special master isn't that far-fetched, at least in the context of attorney-client privileged stuff.  It happened in the Cohen warrant, largely because that was a search warrant executed at a lawyer's office.  I'm not so sure about executive privileged stuff.

They didn't allege that there was anything but executive privileged stuff.  And, that is virtually a concession that whatever it is is covered by PRA and rightfully belongs to NARA.  And then the validity of the privilege claim will largely be determined by Biden.

The motion fails to distinguish between a sitting President and a former President.

Evan Corcoran knows what he's doing, I'm sure the legal meat of the thing came from him.  All the self-aggrandizing shit came from someone else.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/22/us/politics/trump-classified-documents.html

 

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The initial batch of documents retrieved by the National Archives from former President Donald J. Trump in January included more than 150 marked as classified, a number that ignited intense concern at the Justice Department and helped trigger the criminal investigation that led F.B.I. agents to swoop into Mar-a-Lago this month seeking to recover more, multiple people briefed on the matter said.

 

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In total, the government has recovered more than 300 documents with classified markings from Mr. Trump since he left office, the people said: that first batch of documents returned in January, another set provided by Mr. Trump’s aides to the Justice Department in June and the material seized by the F.B.I. in the search this month.

 

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The previously unreported volume of the sensitive material found in the former president’s possession in January helps explain why the Justice Department moved so urgently to hunt down any further classified materials he might have.

 

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And the extent to which such a large number of highly sensitive documents remained at Mar-a-Lago for months, even as the department sought the return of all material that should have been left in government custody when Mr. Trump left office, suggested to officials that the former president or his aides had been cavalier in handling it, not fully forthcoming with investigators, or both.

The specific nature of the sensitive material that Mr. Trump took from the White House remains unclear. But the 15 boxes Mr. Trump turned over to the archives in January, nearly a year after he left office, included documents from the C.I.A., the National Security Agency and the F.B.I. spanning a variety of topics of national security interest, a person briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump went through the boxes himself in late 2021, according to multiple people briefed on his efforts, before turning them over.

The highly sensitive nature of some of the material in the boxes prompted archives officials to refer the matter to the Justice Department, which within months had convened a grand jury investigation.

Aides to Mr. Trump turned over a few dozen additional sensitive documents during a visit to Mar-a-Lago by Justice Department officials in early June. At the conclusion of the search this month, officials left with 26 boxes, including 11 sets of material marked as classified, comprising scores of additional documents. One set had the highest level of classification, top secret/secret compartmented information.

The Justice Department investigation is continuing, suggesting that officials are not certain whether they have recovered all the presidential records that Mr. Trump took with him from the White House.

Even after the extraordinary decision by the F.B.I. to execute a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8, investigators have sought additional surveillance footage from the club, people familiar with the matter said.

It was the second such demand for the club’s security tapes, said the people familiar with the matter, and underscored that authorities are still scrutinizing how the classified documents were handled by Mr. Trump and his staff before the search.

A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A spokeswoman for the F.B.I. did not respond to requests for comment.

Mr. Trump’s allies insist that the president had a “standing order” to declassify material that left the Oval Office for the White House residence, and have claimed that the General Services Administration, not Mr. Trump’s staff, packed the boxes with the documents.

No documentation has come to light confirming that Mr. Trump declassified the material, and the potential crimes cited by the Justice Department in seeking the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago would not hinge on the classification status of the documents.

National Archives officials spent much of 2021 trying to get back material from Mr. Trump, after learning that roughly two dozen boxes of presidential records material had been lingering in the White House residence for several months. Under the Presidential Records Act, all official material remains government property and has to be provided to the archives at the end of a president’s term.

Among the items they knew were missing were Mr. Trump’s original letters from the North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un, and the note that President Barack Obama had left Mr. Trump before he left office.

Two former White House officials, who had been designated as among Mr. Trump’s representatives with the archives, received calls and tried to facilitate the documents’ return.

Mr. Trump resisted those calls, describing the boxes of documents as “mine,” according to three advisers familiar with his comments.

Soon after beginning their investigation early this year, Justice Department officials came to believe there were additional classified documents that they needed to collect. In May, after conducting a series of witness interviews, the department issued a subpoena for the return of remaining classified material, according to people familiar with the episode.

On June 3, Jay Bratt, the chief of the counterespionage section of the national security division of the Justice Department, went to Mar-a-Lago to meet with two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, and retrieve any remaining classified material to satisfy the subpoena. Mr. Corcoran went through the boxes himself to identify classified material beforehand, according to two people familiar with his efforts.

Mr. Corcoran showed Mr. Bratt the basement storage room where, he said, the remaining material had been kept.

Mr. Trump briefly came to see the investigators during the visit.

Mr. Bratt and the agents who joined him were given a sheaf of classified material, according to two people familiar with the meeting. Mr. Corcoran then drafted a statement, which Ms. Bobb, who is said to be the custodian of the documents, signed. It asserted that, to the best of her knowledge, all classified material that was there had been returned, according to two people familiar with the statement.

Mr. Corcoran did not respond to repeated requests for comment. Ms. Bobb did not respond to an email seeking comment.

Soon after that visit, investigators, who were interviewing several people in Mr. Trump’s circle about the documents, came to believe that there were other presidential records that had not been turned over, according to the people familiar with the matter.

On June 22, the Justice Department subpoenaed the Trump Organization for Mar-a-Lago’s security footage, which included a well-trafficked hallway outside the storage area, the people said.

The club had surveillance footage going back 60 days for some areas of the property, stretching back to late April of this year.

While much of the footage showed hours of club employees walking through the busy corridor, some of it raised concerns for investigators, according to people familiar with the matter. It revealed people moving boxes in and out, and in some cases, appearing to change the containers some documents were held in. The footage also showed other parts of the property.

In seeking a second round of security footage, the Justice Department want to review tapes for the weeks leading up to the Aug. 8 search.

Federal officials have indicated that their initial goal has been to secure any classified documents Mr. Trump was holding at Mar-a-Lago, a pay-for-membership club where there is little control over who comes in as guests. It remains to be seen whether anyone will face criminal charges stemming from the investigation.

The combination of witness interviews and the initial security footage led Justice Department officials to begin drafting a request for a search warrant, the people familiar with the matter said.

The F.B.I. agents who conducted the search found the additional documents in the storage area in the basement of Mar-a-Lago, as well as in a container in a closet in Mr. Trump’s office, the people said.

Mr. Trump’s allies have attacked the law enforcement agencies, accusing the investigators of being partisan.

The intense public interest has now spurred a legal fight to see the search warrant’s underlying affidavit. On Monday, a federal magistrate issued a formal order directing the Justice Department to send him under seal proposed redactions to the affidavit underlying the warrant used to search Mar-a-Lago by Thursday, accompanied by a memo explaining its justifications.

In the order, the judge, Bruce E. Reinhart, said he was inclined to release portions of the sealed affidavit but wanted to wait until he saw the government’s redactions before making a decision.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

lulz

He loses a bit of credibility with the venue thing.  It's clearly filed in the SD Fla, which is where the warrant was applied for and executed.

What is somewhat less clear to me is if there needs to be a pending civil or criminal suit in which to make this motion.

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