A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[WhatTheBuck 28,958]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Do we all stand up and sing the national anthem?

 

Some of us even know the lyrics.

 

[Born to Run 6,601]

Trump Doral, eh?

Maybe write a restaurant review for the grill over there. Discusss what you ate. Etc

[safe sex 12,048]

Bozo, don't you fucking dare

[Ghost of LL 15,738]

6 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Bozo, don't you fucking dare

[Beau Vine 55,915]

[Pato del Muerto 53,638]

[Gatorubet 30,836]

and yet……

[wood 11,782]

:dumbquestionamnesty:, por favor.

Just curious ... I looked but didn't see one, & I don't frequent this board. Is there a thread for formerly Republican-leaning people who were driven away from the party by this pathetic man and others like him, and now vote Democrat just to combat the extremism? 

Seems like there are a fair number of us out here.

[atomheartbevo 90,730]

40 minutes ago, wood said:

Is there a thread for formerly Republican-leaning people who were driven away from the party by this pathetic man and others like him, and now vote Democrat just to combat the extremism? 

Yes, actually there’s several such threads - here’s a list of all of them:

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/forum/17-cloak-room/

[wood 11,782]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yes, actually there’s several such threads - here’s a list of all of them:

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/forum/17-cloak-room/

Ah, yeah. I figured there were probably some that had that sentiment expressed a lot. I just didn't see any titles that looked a little narrower in scope & I can't read em all. Good to see I'm not alone on this. What a fucking walking, talking abortion this mfer is. 

[atomheartbevo 90,730]

36 minutes ago, wood said:

Ah, yeah. I figured there were probably some that had that sentiment expressed a lot. I just didn't see any titles that looked a little narrower in scope & I can't read em all. Good to see I'm not alone on this. What a fucking walking, talking abortion this mfer is. 

A big chunk of CR consists of former Republicans.  A big chunk.  Some like me bailed over Iraq, some bailed over Palin, plenty bailed because of Trump.

[tx 3 putt 78,891]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

A big chunk of CR consists of former Republicans.  A big chunk.  Some like me bailed over Iraq, some bailed over Palin, plenty bailed because of Trump.

[wood 11,782]

18 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

A big chunk of CR consists of former Republicans.  A big chunk.  Some like me bailed over Iraq, some bailed over Palin, plenty bailed because of Trump.

Yeah it's really something. The damage done to this country by this POS and others like him is just shameful. I'm embarrassed to say I voted for him the first time, but it didn't take long to realize what a horrible mistake that was. Extremism, on both ends of the spectrum, is crushing the soul of this country.  

I rarely CR, but it's just been really eating at me, watching this country become so polarized and divided by the lowest-common-denominator cretins, fascists, etc on both sides of the aisle. The insurrection saddened and enraged me. That's just not the way things are supposed to go in this country, of all places. It feels like we're on the verge of civil war, with all the moderates on both sides - and even the generally rational people further to the right and the left - stuck in the crossfire.

Abbott can eabod & diaf too as far as I'm concerned. Fucking trash. I've also posted a few times about his corporate welfare re: COTA, but I generally do it in the 'COTA seems like it sucks' thread. Maybe I should start again, but here. I wonder how much kickback money it takes to get the Governor to give your private enterprise half a billion $$$ of the taxpayers' money. /csb

Edited December 28, 2022 by wood

[Walser 1,129]

I was definitely out once Trump came around, but I had been getting disillusioned by the Republican party for a while. The hypocrisy. Do they even have a statement of values...a platform any more?

What I really can't stand are "the ends justify the means" Christians. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I don't know if I have any faith left, but I admire the teachings of Jesus regardless. Like, the actual teachings. I don't know what the fuck book some of these "Christians" have been reading.

Sorry for the rant. I'm all hopped up on meds for my back and still can't sleep.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,647]

I would guess most posters in CR at one time or another have voted for a Republican candidate and it's probably those posters that give me the most hope for the future in that it demonstrates people can and do change. 

[YGIFS 19,460]

4 hours ago, wood said:

:dumbquestionamnesty:, por favor.

Just curious ... I looked but didn't see one, & I don't frequent this board. Is there a thread for formerly Republican-leaning people who were driven away from the party by this pathetic man and others like him, and now vote Democrat just to combat the extremism? 

Seems like there are a fair number of us out here.

I don't know how to embed the meme, but David Cross jorts in "Arrested Development"..................'THERE ARE DOZENS OF US!'

I was never technically a member of the Republican Party.  Only party I ever officially joined was the Libertarian Party.  But I no longer have the luxury of supporting/voting my ideology.  I have to do what little I can to protect my children from getting the Stupid.  But yeah, I probably voted 40-40-20 (L-R-D) over the years.  And now it's more like 20-20-60 (L-R-D) because I have to.  

And the now, as Brisket portended, the Stupid has evolved into the Cruel.  And so, I gotta hang out on this forum, with you degenerates.  But the good news is there are hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of us in Texas.  And tens of millions of us nationwide.  It feels a little shitty, IMHO, that the Democrats don't reach out to us more and we are plenty vilified by the right.  But I get it, they're locked in their own battle...but they'd both be very surprised how quickly and organically we self-organized to defeat Trumpism.  We're not doing a good enough job, but we're doing a surprising job, if that makes sense.  

Of his 75mm base, it's the 25mm lunatic fringe that has me worried.  1/3rd will just pull straight ticket R and not even remember who was on the ballot.  1/3rd knows he's an incompetent criminal but will go along with it so long as it's not too batshit, and would gladly back a more sane GOP nominee.  But it's that 1/3rd that they found in 2016 using Cambridge/Drogin analytics that now has a taste for power and social acceptance.  Those people are going to be an anchor around our necks for decades. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,766]

Has any major presidential campaign tripped out of the gate so much as Trump’s? I just googled “trump 2024 announcement” because I was wondering if I was wrong on whether he had officially announced or not.  Google reassures me that he did announce in mid Nov. 

has he done anything in terms of campaigning? A candidate doesn’t announce and then sit at home for 7 weeks. 

[Bozo_Casanova 27,009]

I’m just saying I don’t blame him for making the trip down to Miami. 

Edited December 28, 2022 by Bozo_Casanova

[Lurch 5,952]

Extremism, on both ends of the spectrum, is crushing the soul of this country.  

Bullshit. ONE SIDE owns this.

And I say that as one who voted straight party R until 2016.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Has any major presidential campaign tripped out of the gate so much as Trump’s? I just googled “trump 2024 announcement” because I was wondering if I was wrong on whether he had officially announced or not.  Google reassures me that he did announce in mid Nov. 

has he done anything in terms of campaigning? A candidate doesn’t announce and then sit at home for 7 weeks. 

It is odd.  Makes it seem like someone advised him that it’d help against prosecution.  

[Neonmoon 38,130]

Please provide examples or left extremism 

let me guess. George Floyd riots? And…protesting Supreme Court justices? 
 

Any mass shootings? Attacks on members of Congress? Plots to overthrow government? Attacks on power infrastructure? 

[Lurch 5,952]

Please provide examples or left extremism 
let me guess. George Floyd riots? And…protesting Supreme Court justices? 
 
Any mass shootings? Attacks on members of Congress? Plots to overthrow government? Attacks on power infrastructure? 

The AUDACITY of wanting healthcare for all, addressing (hell, even acknowledging) climate change and protecting the liberty of those that don’t share their “Christian” values. EXTREMISM

[Bookman 4,775]

8 hours ago, wood said:

:dumbquestionamnesty:, por favor.

Just curious ... I looked but didn't see one, & I don't frequent this board. Is there a thread for formerly Republican-leaning people who were driven away from the party by this pathetic man and others like him, and now vote Democrat just to combat the extremism? 

Seems like there are a fair number of us out here.

Welcome to the club! Fuck Donald Trump.

[Bama Chick 28,596]

A big chunk of CR consists of former Republicans.  A big chunk.  Some like me bailed over Iraq, some bailed over Palin, plenty bailed because of Trump.

And then there’s those of us who are lifelong Democrats playing Cassandra.

[WhatTheBuck 28,958]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m just saying I don’t blame him for making the trip down to Miami. 

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[Ted Lange 16,513]

Anytime Doral comes up....

[GenXer 3,542]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

A big chunk of CR consists of former Republicans.  A big chunk.  Some like me bailed over Iraq, some bailed over Palin, plenty bailed because of Trump.

Some, like me, bailed in the 90’s when Republicans showed they didn’t give a shit about making healthcare affordable. 

[hookemATL 12,340]

Lifelong libtard here. Quenching the thirst of GQPers with my tears for 30+ years. I’m such a soy (sauce) boy you could wring me out over some sashimi Nomz Nomz Nomz. 
 

fuck the Republican Party. Forever and ever. amen. 

[atomheartbevo 90,730]

Going back a few pages, and whether Trump is the worst or just the culmination of things set in motion by Reagan or Nixon, and thinking about comments about former Republicans in this thread, got me to thinking.  The thing that gets me about Trump the most is that whatever brought us to Trump as President, it was definitely Trump that gave us MTG, Boebert, Kari Lake, Qanon, etc. and I don’t think other Republican candidates would have done that. That rise of idiots was 100% Trump.

[wood 11,782]

7 hours ago, Walser said:

I was definitely out once Trump came around, but I had been getting disillusioned by the Republican party for a while. The hypocrisy. Do they even have a statement of values...a platform any more?

What I really can't stand are "the ends justify the means" Christians. I was raised in a conservative Christian family. I don't know if I have any faith left, but I admire the teachings of Jesus regardless. Like, the actual teachings. I don't know what the fuck book some of these "Christians" have been reading.

Sorry for the rant. I'm all hopped up on meds for my back and still can't sleep.

All of this. As I told my wife (no pics) and boys (no pics, nttawwt) during this election cycle, I voted Republican for a long time because I agreed with enough of what they were saying compared to what the Dems were saying that I c ould overlook a lot of the bullshit. I'm not religious, but much like you, I have always respected basic right and wrong. I was able to ignore the religious ties and the crazy for a long time, but they just become too overwhelming.  The recent trend toward extremism, racism, violence, hate-speech, and the overwhelming marriage of the party to the religious far-right, etc, pushed me over the edge. 

[TwiceHorn 32,156]

8 hours ago, wood said:

Yeah it's really something. The damage done to this country by this POS and others like him is just shameful. I'm embarrassed to say I voted for him the first time, but it didn't take long to realize what a horrible mistake that was. Extremism, on both ends of the spectrum, is crushing the soul of this country.  

I rarely CR, but it's just been really eating at me, watching this country become so polarized and divided by the lowest-common-denominator cretins, fascists, etc on both sides of the aisle. The insurrection saddened and enraged me. That's just not the way things are supposed to go in this country, of all places. It feels like we're on the verge of civil war, with all the moderates on both sides - and even the generally rational people further to the right and the left - stuck in the crossfire.

Abbott can eabod & diaf too as far as I'm concerned. Fucking trash. I've also posted a few times about his corporate welfare re: COTA, but I generally do it in the 'COTA seems like it sucks' thread. Maybe I should start again, but here. I wonder how much kickback money it takes to get the Governor to give your private enterprise half a billion $$$ of the taxpayers' money. /csb

As a former conservative myself, i do take a bit of issue with "so polarized."  The "left" has been what the left has always been.  I don't think it's any more left than ever.  I do think more modern life presents issues that SEEM more polarizing, like equal rights for LGBQT, climate change, wealth inequality. and the like, but these have been pretty consistent positions of "the left" for decades.

The right, however, in lieu of actual policy, has taken to demonizing these policies as socialism, etc. 

Therefore, I blame the right almost entirely for the polarization.

[wood 11,782]

2 hours ago, Lurch said:

Bullshit. ONE SIDE owns this.

And I say that as one who voted straight party R until 2016.

 

I definitely agree that it's much, much worse on the R side right now than on the D side. Mine was more of a general statement across decades. All this craziness isn't going to get us anywhere good.

[wood 11,782]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Please provide examples or left extremism 

let me guess. George Floyd riots? And…protesting Supreme Court justices? 
 

Any mass shootings? Attacks on members of Congress? Plots to overthrow government? Attacks on power infrastructure? 

None that I'm aware of. I didn't mean to say that there is violent extremism on both sides. Not at all. I don't define extremism as having to be violent in nature, but maybe I'm wrong. Not trying to piss anyone off. 

[hookemATL 12,340]

9 minutes ago, wood said:

  The recent trend toward extremism, racism, violence, hate-speech, and the overwhelming marriage of the party to the religious far-right, etc, pushed me over the edge. 

Quoted for horseshit. 

[HornPhD 1,395]

20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Going back a few pages, and whether Trump is the worst or just the culmination of things set in motion by Reagan or Nixon, and thinking about comments about former Republicans in this thread, got me to thinking.  The thing that gets me about Trump the most is that whatever brought us to Trump as President, it was definitely Trump that gave us MTG, Boebert, Kari Lake, Qanon, etc. and I don’t think other Republican candidates would have done that. That rise of idiots was 100% Trump.

The decline of public education began with Reagan, which led to the rise of idiots

Edited December 28, 2022 by HornPhD
Linked decline to increased number of idiots

[wood 11,782]

10 minutes ago, hookemATL said:

Quoted for horseshit. 

Damn, some of y'all are pretty nitpicky. What I mean is the recent acceleration of the crazy/stupid, in a historical perspective, not a 'past few years' perspective.  I'm agreeing with y'all here.  Yes, it's always been there, but it was pretty static for a long time. Now it's gone off the charts and seems to have become the preferred political strategy for some in the party.

Edited December 28, 2022 by wood

[hookemATL 12,340]

I mean it’s foundational to the party. The roots of the sickness run deep and have been a strategic part of messaging and candidate choice for decades. Can’t use the term “recent trend” and try and gloss that over as it being a choice the GOP has made on a whim the last several years. That’s not reality, although I know that reality has a liberal bias so maybe I need to check myself. 

[RomaVicta 30,679]

10 hours ago, wood said:

:dumbquestionamnesty:, por favor.

Just curious ... I looked but didn't see one, & I don't frequent this board. Is there a thread for formerly Republican-leaning people who were driven away from the party by this pathetic man and others like him, and now vote Democrat just to combat the extremism? 

Seems like there are a fair number of us out here.

Just stand up and introduce yourself as a former Republican. Then we all say, "Hi, Wood."

I've never leaned GOP, but I saw them as a generally viable option when they actually had some sort of values or at least claimed to. 

Compliments for abandoning that criminal organization at the voting booth. Admiration for actually voting Dem. It's not an easy thing to do, and I've been doing it for years. Now it's a vote for the republic. I honestly do hope all the non-hating former GOPs find a home again. Actual conservative values belong in the discourse.

A great many ex-GOPs or ex-leaning GOPs have a home here. Welcome. 

The GOP dead-enders will now say you've joined the Cabal of Mean People.

 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

22 minutes ago, wood said:

Damn, some of y'all are pretty nitpicky. What I mean is the recent acceleration of the crazy/stupid, in a historical perspective, not a 'past few years' perspective.  I'm agreeing with y'all here.  Yes, it's always been there, but it was pretty static for a long time. Now it's gone off the charts and seems to have become the preferred political strategy for some in the party.

Welcome to the shitshow. Don’t take our war weary, jaded, and trigger happy posts personal. We’ve been in the shit too long. 

[Beau Vine 55,915]

4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Has any major presidential campaign tripped out of the gate so much as Trump’s? I just googled “trump 2024 announcement” because I was wondering if I was wrong on whether he had officially announced or not.  Google reassures me that he did announce in mid Nov. 

has he done anything in terms of campaigning? A candidate doesn’t announce and then sit at home for 7 weeks. 

Read the New Yorker article that got him so pissed off the other day.  

I didn't even have time to read all of it because it's so long, but what I read was spectacularly pathetic.

[Beau Vine 55,915]

42 minutes ago, wood said:

None that I'm aware of. I didn't mean to say that there is violent extremism on both sides. Not at all.

But there is!  Just ask @clapclapclap.  He's verrrrrrrrrrry concerned.

[wood 11,782]

2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Just stand up and introduce yourself as a former Republican. Then we all say, "Hi, Wood."

I've never leaned GOP, but I saw them as a generally viable option when they actually had some sort of values or at least claimed to. 

Compliments for abandoning that criminal organization at the voting booth. Admiration for actually voting Dem. It's not an easy thing to do, and I've been doing it for years. Now it's a vote for the republic. I honestly do hope all the non-hating former GOPs find a home again. Actual conservative values belong in the discourse.

A great many ex-GOPs or ex-leaning GOPs have a home here. Welcome. 

The GOP dead-enders will now say you've joined the Cabal of Mean People.

 

Hello everyone. My name is wood, and I'm a Recovering Republican.

Did I do that right? And yeah, that bold bit above is exactly how I view it. I've always wanted to vote for what's best for the country, not what's best for me. IMHO far too many people vote strictly for their own self interest. 

[Brisketexan 107,100]

Has any major presidential campaign tripped out of the gate so much as Trump’s? I just googled “trump 2024 announcement” because I was wondering if I was wrong on whether he had officially announced or not.  Google reassures me that he did announce in mid Nov. 
has he done anything in terms of campaigning? A candidate doesn’t announce and then sit at home for 7 weeks. 

His “campaign” is utterly anemic.
And it doesn’t matter, if the GQP nomination race gets crowded AT ALL, he wins the nomination, easily. He knows it. We all know it. Look at the recent polling of GQP voters.
Stop believing that whatever is left of the Republican Party is anything but either a) a cult, or b) spineless power-hungry cowards who will along with the cult so they have SOME hold on power. It is a broken, terrorist death cult. That’s it, that’s all it is.

[MissingInAction 25,633]

I was raised by idiot, wing nut, southern Baptist assholes to believe that being white meant you were better, and education was for pussies. 

Luckily I got my brain from my grandfather, who was a MD and oil man, so I recognized the bullshit at an early age. 

I was literally beaten for expressing any opinion which contradicted my biological father.

Little did they know the beta cuck hippie id become. 

I was always moderate even voting republican sometimes, but since G-Dub I've been solid blue.

[RomaVicta 30,679]

11 minutes ago, wood said:

Hello everyone. My name is wood, and I'm a Recovering Republican.

Did I do that right? And yeah, that bold bit above is exactly how I view it. I've always wanted to vote for what's best for the country, not what's best for me. IMHO far too many people vote strictly for their own self interest. 

Not everybody remembered to say Hi, Wood! There have been a number of guys posing as reasonable and objective just to troll. Certain phrases evidently stir deep reactions.

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by RomaVicta

[4th&Five 42,070]

Guys, it sounds like we got Wood!

[Brisketexan 107,100]

Guys, it sounds like we got Wood!

WOOD’S BEEN HIT! WOOD’S BEEN HIT!

[YGIFS 19,460]

7 minutes ago, wood said:

Maybe a huge opportunity for the Libs?

Only two reasons you team up with the 'LIBS'.........they at least have the decency to vilify their stupids/corrupts instead of celebrating them.  At minimum, they hide them.  And second-they at least still pretend to care about others.  On occasion, they even help folks out.  I'm a sarcastic asshole, but in real life I bust my ass to help people.  Not the "I give money to my church missionary work" or "I did Habitat for Humanity last year" kinda stuff...I mean consistent year-around work.  Not gonna get into a pissing match with either the R's or D's on here about it.  But between that and the Trumpism embrace of sheer stupidity and now cruelty, I cannot abide.  

So just like there was this 20-30mm voting bloc of limbo adult Americans in 2016-2020.  There is now us.  Politically active.  Conscious.  Self-aware.  Donation money at the ready.  Not "liberal", not "MAGA."  Not third party, not independent.  Where the fuck do we go from here?  I like Biden okay.  Not a huge fan.  Bundled some money for him, might vote for him again, but probably not.  I hate Cruz with the passion of a thousand suns.  But Beto isn't the rainbow of smiles and caramel I was promised.  What do we do?  Where do we go?  We are legion, and have cash to burn.  

My personal decision is the time being.  YMMV.  Is my daughters.  I realize they're going to be adults before I blink again.  I am going to go scorched earth on everybody.  Fuck all of 'em, particularly the assholes in Texas.  Given my network, I can make a tiny fraction of a semblance of a dent.  But together, we can truly fuck shit up.  I want to watch them kill each other on the streets.  And god willing, I can fix it so they will.  

[Pato del Muerto 53,638]

23 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Guys, it sounds like we got Wood!

Lake is driving in your gif. You’ve outed yourself, Qbert!

[Slacks 7,101]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Going back a few pages, and whether Trump is the worst or just the culmination of things set in motion by Reagan or Nixon, and thinking about comments about former Republicans in this thread, got me to thinking.  The thing that gets me about Trump the most is that whatever brought us to Trump as President, it was definitely Trump that gave us MTG, Boebert, Kari Lake, Qanon, etc. and I don’t think other Republican candidates would have done that. That rise of idiots was 100% Trump.

I think you have it backwards...  The rise of idiots is what gave us Trump.

People watched this dude sit on a TV show and say "You're fired!". They saw him throw his name all over all the real estate he could. The saw his casino fail. His school was a fraud. He couldn't get an NFL franchise. He did have a nice USFL team. He said he was rich and could negotiate. He said he was smart about everything that ever happened. He said he had Obama's birth certificate, but of course he didn't have it, because they don't make birth certificates in Kenya. He said he was smart for not paying taxes.

And the idiots said, "We want that" because, as it turns out, there are a lot of idiots.