A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand · February 21

4 hours ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Sue 'em for 787 million dollars, yappy.

Js1 · February 21

A pathetic $9m haul in January. 20% of what Biden raised. He has a 100m COH deficit too

DDD Dad · February 21

10 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

1,1,1,x,x, etc.

DDD Dad · February 21

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

We get more easily side-tracked than the orange sack of shit does during his stump speeches.

Pods · February 21

On 2/17/2024 at 4:02 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

That is the tackiest cologne bottle ever, which is saying something.

atomheartbevo · February 21

8 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Kids in the pool and play areas running wild, oilfield roughnecks hanging out in the parking lot drinking beer.

This is the Holidome experience I remember across multiple Holidomes in multiple states.

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

If we don't do a Surly road trip to this paradise, then we are not committed enough to this bit.

We maybe going through that area this summer and if it’s there, we are stopping.

Francisco 2.0 · February 21

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-cash-crunch-just-got-much-much-worse?ref=wrap

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As Donald Trump’s legal troubles consume more and more of his time, they’re also consuming more of his donors’ money—and there’s a huge hole in the bucket.

On Tuesday, Trump’s “Save America” leadership political action committee reported raising just $8,508 from donors in the entire month of January, while spending about $3.9 million, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission.

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Nearly $3 million of that overall spending total was used for one purpose: to pay lawyers.

At the same time, the Trump campaign itself reported a net loss of more than $2.6 million for the month of January. It raised about $8.8 million while spending around $11.5 million, according to a separate filing made public on Tuesday.

The filings reveal that Trump is continuing to burn through his donors’ funds as he struggles to feed two massive cash drains—astronomical legal bills stemming from numerous civil cases and four criminal indictments, plus the costs of a national presidential campaign.

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After the Trump filings were released on Tuesday evening, his sole primary challenger, Nikki Haley, flashed a sign of strength, with her campaign reporting $11.5 million in receipts last month. It is the first-ever fundraising period where Haley’s campaign outraised Trump.

Despite reporting almost no donations in January, the Save America PAC—a group Trump launched days after the 2020 election, ostensibly to fund legal challenges—actually increased its bottom line by more than $1 million, ending the month with nearly $6.3 million on hand.

However, that increase can’t be chalked up to new donations. It’s entirely due to a $5 million transfer from a different pro-Trump super PAC, which is still in the process of refunding $60 million that the former president demanded back last year, as his legal bills threatened to put Save America, his legal slush fund, into bankruptcy.

Spoiler

The super PAC has been kicking that refund back in $5 million installments beginning late last spring, but that emergency bailout won’t last, either—the full refund is set to be completed by June.

There’s another metric for the depth of Trump’s financial strain: Save America itself had to bail out yet another one of Trump’s PACs, transferring $500,000 to his old campaign committee in the middle of January. That group, called “Make America Great Again PAC,” started the year with only about $570,000 in the bank, so the mid-month injection from the sputtering Save America suggests that MAGA PAC might very well be in danger of bottoming out too.

A Trump spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a comment request.

As he heads into his third consecutive presidential campaign, it’s safe to say Trump’s cash apparatus is complicated.

At this point, the Save America PAC exists almost exclusively to cover the former president’s legal bills, but Trump also has to fund his political campaign. He does that by raising the bulk of his money through a joint fundraising committee, which automatically splits the proceeds—90 percent goes to the campaign, with Save America cleaning up the other 10 percent, according to the terms of online solicitations.

Last month, however, the joint fundraising committee didn’t send any money to Save America, the latest filings show, though it did transfer about $8.5 million to the Trump campaign. This suggests Save America might still have as much as $850,000 headed its way from January fundraising efforts—a drop in the bucket, considering the ferocious burn rate of those legal costs.

Trump’s cash crunch is hitting at a terrible time. Recent weeks have seen two massive legal judgments against the former president. First came the $83.3 million sum for the writer E. Jean Carroll, whom he was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming; that was followed weeks later with a whopping $355 million fine for years of business fraud in New York.

Along with interest and other costs, those two rulings alone could set Trump back as much as $600 million.

While Trump is a billionaire, his choice to pass his legal costs on to his donors is threatening to derail the GOP’s national fundraising efforts. Trump is now attempting a takeover of the Republican National Committee, planting MAGA loyalists and even his own daughter-in-law at the top echelons of party leadership.

The Daily Beast previously reported that this self-interested maneuvering could severely constrain the RNC as the national party struggles to unify behind its beleaguered standard-bearer during a monumental election cycle.

But Trump can’t raise money with the party until he officially secures the nomination, which could happen as soon as March. And a breakdown of the Trump campaign’s spending last month shows that the primary contest is taking its toll, even as that competition winnowed to just Haley.

The campaign’s biggest January line item was the nearly $4.7 million spent for placed media, which accounts for TV ad spending. Another roughly $820,000 went out the door for audio visual support at events, $602,000 for video production, nearly $550,000 in travel-related expenses, and more than $450,000 for polling services.

The campaign also shelled out about $15,000 for teleprompter services, a sharp increase over recent months, as Trump held rallies to bolster support as primary voting got underway. Outside of those direct political costs, however, the campaign’s biggest expense was the $830,000 it also dropped on lawyers.

dcbc · February 21

14 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Yeah, it have to be kind of shitty, not too nice. That sweet spot of just above a by the hour motel but well beneath a Fairfield Inn; of course with a dome and some crappyish amenities. I might have to insist upon having leisure suit clothiers in them, and sunken living rooms included in the dome area.

I believe the words you're looking for are Villa Capri.

Also, I like where this is headed.

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Four days after a judge ordered former President Donald Trump to pay $354 million in his civil fraud case, New York Attorney General Letitia James told ABC News that she is prepared to seize the former president's assets if he is unable to find the cash to cover the fine.

"If he does not have funds to pay off the judgment, then we will seek judgment enforcement mechanisms in court, and we will ask the judge to seize his assets," James said in an interview with ABC News' Aaron Katersky.

. . . .

"We are prepared to make sure that the judgment is paid to New Yorkers, and yes, I look at 40 Wall Street each and every day," James said of the standard court process for collecting judgments in civil cases.

Link

Edited February 21 by dcbc

Macanudo · February 21

12 hours ago, Pods said:

That is the tackiest cologne bottle ever, which is saying something.

Will that get used as a makeshift dildo on more vaginas or anuses?

tokamak · February 21

Why does Trump's presidential campaign need money?

the entire right wing media apparatus exists
the MSM breathlessly covers his every utterance in a misguided pursuit of "balance"
Musk, Vlad, et al are going to do their part on social media

Francisco 2.0 · February 21

5 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Why does Trump's presidential campaign need money?

the entire right wing media apparatus exists

the MSM breathlessly covers his every utterance in a misguided pursuit of "balance"

Musk, Vlad, et al are going to do their part on social media

Oh, they don't need "money" in the traditional sense. But Trump "needs" money.

Besides, there's legions of MAGA folk willing and ready to toss money that way and countless layers of grift below Trump that need their fix as well.

Js1 · February 21

Still gotta grift though. Always a friend or family member who has a printing company or a digital media company or a slapped together "GOTV operation" that needs money to "pay" "volunteers"

If Trump and the Lara Trump-run RNC doesn't raise money, how else will everyone in the Trump family get paid?

Plus Melania's hairdresser/fashion consultants. And Don Jr.'s coke habits doesn't pay for itself.

atomheartbevo · February 21

16 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Why does Trump's presidential campaign need money?

the entire right wing media apparatus exists

the MSM breathlessly covers his every utterance in a misguided pursuit of "balance"

Musk, Vlad, et al are going to do their part on social media

atomheartbevo · February 21

“Jewing me down”
doesn’t look like Melania
he’s on his iPad like a child
And so on..

Judge Roybeanbag · February 21

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is the Holidome experience I remember across multiple Holidomes in multiple states.

We maybe going through that area this summer and if it’s there, we are stopping.

The Pearl on the Concho in San Angelo is also an old Holidome.

TexArcher · February 21

13 hours ago, Pods said:

That is the tackiest cologne bottle ever, which is saying something.

And I'm pretty sure it's Old Spice in there for 10 times the normal price.

Edited February 21 by TexArcher

RomaVicta · February 21

On 2/19/2024 at 7:37 PM, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Reminds me of the the old Super 8 indoor pool area next to the Circle Bar truck stop. Who says you can find luxury amenities in between Ozona and Sonora? Not me.

I think I got athlete's foot just looking at the picture.

On 2/19/2024 at 8:41 PM, miguelito said:

Son of a bitch. This thread is marked "HOT" and I walk into a discussion about shoes and old hotels.

I can smell the hotel pictures, though.

Yup.

On 2/19/2024 at 10:43 PM, tokamak said:

Reagan at 16 huh?

Trending down. Glad LBJ is in the top ten; there was more to his presidency than the Viet Nam disaster.

Truman over-rated. He ushered in the security state and the military-industrial state that Eisenhower warned us about.

Washington should be number 1. There is no USA without him holding together the army and using his own money to do so. The Constitution Convention was illegal under the laws of Federation. Washington's presence quelled any thought of acting on that fact. He surrendered power in the first peaceful transfer of the office. He was a great man. He arranged for the freedom of the people enslaved on his farm which is at least a little something against his terrible history of trafficking Africans.

Edited February 21 by RomaVicta

atomheartbevo · February 21

12 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

The Pearl on the Concho in San Angelo is also an old Holidome.

Gonna have to check it out

Nice Guy Eddie · February 21

16 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

oklahoma is calling BS on that list. #45 on the list but #1 in the hearts of all maga oklhomoians !

Why do I think that this guy is going to force every student in OK stop their lessons for an hour and require the teacher read a prepared statement or play a video about Trumps “achievements.”

Brisketexan · February 21

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-cash-crunch-just-got-much-much-worse?ref=wrap

As Donald Trump’s legal troubles consume more and more of his time, they’re also consuming more of his donors’ money—and there’s a huge hole in the bucket.
On Tuesday, Trump’s “Save America” leadership political action committee reported raising just $8,508 from donors in the entire month of January, while spending about $3.9 million, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission.

Nearly $3 million of that overall spending total was used for one purpose: to pay lawyers.
At the same time, the Trump campaign itself reported a net loss of more than $2.6 million for the month of January. It raised about $8.8 million while spending around $11.5 million, according to a separate filing made public on Tuesday.
The filings reveal that Trump is continuing to burn through his donors’ funds as he struggles to feed two massive cash drains—astronomical legal bills stemming from numerous civil cases and four criminal indictments, plus the costs of a national presidential campaign.

After the Trump filings were released on Tuesday evening, his sole primary challenger, Nikki Haley, flashed a sign of strength, with her campaign reporting $11.5 million in receipts last month. It is the first-ever fundraising period where Haley’s campaign outraised Trump.
Despite reporting almost no donations in January, the Save America PAC—a group Trump launched days after the 2020 election, ostensibly to fund legal challenges—actually increased its bottom line by more than $1 million, ending the month with nearly $6.3 million on hand.
However, that increase can’t be chalked up to new donations. It’s entirely due to a $5 million transfer from a different pro-Trump super PAC, which is still in the process of refunding $60 million that the former president demanded back last year, as his legal bills threatened to put Save America, his legal slush fund, into bankruptcy.

Spoiler

The super PAC has been kicking that refund back in $5 million installments beginning late last spring, but that emergency bailout won’t last, either—the full refund is set to be completed by June.
There’s another metric for the depth of Trump’s financial strain: Save America itself had to bail out yet another one of Trump’s PACs, transferring $500,000 to his old campaign committee in the middle of January. That group, called “Make America Great Again PAC,” started the year with only about $570,000 in the bank, so the mid-month injection from the sputtering Save America suggests that MAGA PAC might very well be in danger of bottoming out too.
A Trump spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a comment request.
As he heads into his third consecutive presidential campaign, it’s safe to say Trump’s cash apparatus is complicated.
At this point, the Save America PAC exists almost exclusively to cover the former president’s legal bills, but Trump also has to fund his political campaign. He does that by raising the bulk of his money through a joint fundraising committee, which automatically splits the proceeds—90 percent goes to the campaign, with Save America cleaning up the other 10 percent, according to the terms of online solicitations.
Last month, however, the joint fundraising committee didn’t send any money to Save America, the latest filings show, though it did transfer about $8.5 million to the Trump campaign. This suggests Save America might still have as much as $850,000 headed its way from January fundraising efforts—a drop in the bucket, considering the ferocious burn rate of those legal costs.
Trump’s cash crunch is hitting at a terrible time. Recent weeks have seen two massive legal judgments against the former president. First came the $83.3 million sum for the writer E. Jean Carroll, whom he was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming; that was followed weeks later with a whopping $355 million fine for years of business fraud in New York.
Along with interest and other costs, those two rulings alone could set Trump back as much as $600 million.
While Trump is a billionaire, his choice to pass his legal costs on to his donors is threatening to derail the GOP’s national fundraising efforts. Trump is now attempting a takeover of the Republican National Committee, planting MAGA loyalists and even his own daughter-in-law at the top echelons of party leadership.
The Daily Beast previously reported that this self-interested maneuvering could severely constrain the RNC as the national party struggles to unify behind its beleaguered standard-bearer during a monumental election cycle.
But Trump can’t raise money with the party until he officially secures the nomination, which could happen as soon as March. And a breakdown of the Trump campaign’s spending last month shows that the primary contest is taking its toll, even as that competition winnowed to just Haley.
The campaign’s biggest January line item was the nearly $4.7 million spent for placed media, which accounts for TV ad spending. Another roughly $820,000 went out the door for audio visual support at events, $602,000 for video production, nearly $550,000 in travel-related expenses, and more than $450,000 for polling services.
The campaign also shelled out about $15,000 for teleprompter services, a sharp increase over recent months, as Trump held rallies to bolster support as primary voting got underway. Outside of those direct political costs, however, the campaign’s biggest expense was the $830,000 it also dropped on lawyers.

Help me out here - I don’t know campaign finance law well at all. But as I understood, a PAC can’t “coordinate” with a campaign. That seems like a pointless distinction when a PAC can apparently…just directly transfer money to a campaign. What am I missing here?

DigglerontheHoof · February 21

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What am I missing here?

Trump is a very special boy and gets to do what he wants.

High Plains Drifter · February 21

36 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I think I got athlete's foot just looking at the picture.

Yup.

Trending down. Glad LBJ is in the top ten; there was more to his presidency than the Viet Nam disaster.

Truman over-rated. He ushered in the security state and the military-industrial state that Eisenhower warned us about.

Washington should be number 1. There is no USA without him holding together the army and using his own money to do so. The Constitution Convention was illegal under the laws of Federation. Washington's presence quelled any thought of acting on that fact. He surrendered power in the first peaceful transfer of the office. He was a great man. He arranged for the freedom of the people enslaved on his farm which is at least a little something against his terrible history of trafficking Africans.

He surrendered power a number of times. At the end of the Revolutionary War, he could have set himself up as dictator, but didn't. After two terms in office, he was hugely popular and could have remained in power indefinitely, but didn't.

Js1 · February 21

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Spoiler

Reveal hidden contents

The super PAC has been kicking that refund back in $5 million installments beginning late last spring, but that emergency bailout won’t last, either—the full refund is set to be completed by June.
There’s another metric for the depth of Trump’s financial strain: Save America itself had to bail out yet another one of Trump’s PACs, transferring $500,000 to his old campaign committee in the middle of January. That group, called “Make America Great Again PAC,” started the year with only about $570,000 in the bank, so the mid-month injection from the sputtering Save America suggests that MAGA PAC might very well be in danger of bottoming out too.
A Trump spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a comment request.
As he heads into his third consecutive presidential campaign, it’s safe to say Trump’s cash apparatus is complicated.
At this point, the Save America PAC exists almost exclusively to cover the former president’s legal bills, but Trump also has to fund his political campaign. He does that by raising the bulk of his money through a joint fundraising committee, which automatically splits the proceeds—90 percent goes to the campaign, with Save America cleaning up the other 10 percent, according to the terms of online solicitations.
Last month, however, the joint fundraising committee didn’t send any money to Save America, the latest filings show, though it did transfer about $8.5 million to the Trump campaign. This suggests Save America might still have as much as $850,000 headed its way from January fundraising efforts—a drop in the bucket, considering the ferocious burn rate of those legal costs.
Trump’s cash crunch is hitting at a terrible time. Recent weeks have seen two massive legal judgments against the former president. First came the $83.3 million sum for the writer E. Jean Carroll, whom he was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming; that was followed weeks later with a whopping $355 million fine for years of business fraud in New York.
Along with interest and other costs, those two rulings alone could set Trump back as much as $600 million.
While Trump is a billionaire, his choice to pass his legal costs on to his donors is threatening to derail the GOP’s national fundraising efforts. Trump is now attempting a takeover of the Republican National Committee, planting MAGA loyalists and even his own daughter-in-law at the top echelons of party leadership.
The Daily Beast previously reported that this self-interested maneuvering could severely constrain the RNC as the national party struggles to unify behind its beleaguered standard-bearer during a monumental election cycle.
But Trump can’t raise money with the party until he officially secures the nomination, which could happen as soon as March. And a breakdown of the Trump campaign’s spending last month shows that the primary contest is taking its toll, even as that competition winnowed to just Haley.
The campaign’s biggest January line item was the nearly $4.7 million spent for placed media, which accounts for TV ad spending. Another roughly $820,000 went out the door for audio visual support at events, $602,000 for video production, nearly $550,000 in travel-related expenses, and more than $450,000 for polling services.
The campaign also shelled out about $15,000 for teleprompter services, a sharp increase over recent months, as Trump held rallies to bolster support as primary voting got underway. Outside of those direct political costs, however, the campaign’s biggest expense was the $830,000 it also dropped on lawyers.

Help me out here - I don’t know campaign finance law well at all. But as I understood, a PAC can’t “coordinate” with a campaign. That seems like a pointless distinction when a PAC can apparently…just directly transfer money to a campaign. What am I missing here?

Transfers between a candidate’s committees for the same office

In the same election

Funds and assets may be transferred without limit between a candidate’s principal campaign committee and the candidate’s other authorized committees for the same office during the same election. However, an authorized committee may not transfer funds to another authorized committee of the same candidate if the transferring committee has net debts outstanding.

High Plains Drifter · February 21

33 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Why do I think that this guy is going to force every student in OK stop their lessons for an hour and require the teacher read a prepared statement or play a video about Trumps “achievements.”

Lol, "based on how the country performed during his presidency."

A million dead due to covid. Millions of jobs lost. Exploding budget deficits. Absurd levels of graft and corruption.

I guess the video could talk about how dOTarD never wore a tan suit, or never put his feet up on the desk, or never asked for spicy mustard.

17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Spoiler

Reveal hidden contents

The super PAC has been kicking that refund back in $5 million installments beginning late last spring, but that emergency bailout won’t last, either—the full refund is set to be completed by June.
There’s another metric for the depth of Trump’s financial strain: Save America itself had to bail out yet another one of Trump’s PACs, transferring $500,000 to his old campaign committee in the middle of January. That group, called “Make America Great Again PAC,” started the year with only about $570,000 in the bank, so the mid-month injection from the sputtering Save America suggests that MAGA PAC might very well be in danger of bottoming out too.
A Trump spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a comment request.
As he heads into his third consecutive presidential campaign, it’s safe to say Trump’s cash apparatus is complicated.
At this point, the Save America PAC exists almost exclusively to cover the former president’s legal bills, but Trump also has to fund his political campaign. He does that by raising the bulk of his money through a joint fundraising committee, which automatically splits the proceeds—90 percent goes to the campaign, with Save America cleaning up the other 10 percent, according to the terms of online solicitations.
Last month, however, the joint fundraising committee didn’t send any money to Save America, the latest filings show, though it did transfer about $8.5 million to the Trump campaign. This suggests Save America might still have as much as $850,000 headed its way from January fundraising efforts—a drop in the bucket, considering the ferocious burn rate of those legal costs.
Trump’s cash crunch is hitting at a terrible time. Recent weeks have seen two massive legal judgments against the former president. First came the $83.3 million sum for the writer E. Jean Carroll, whom he was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming; that was followed weeks later with a whopping $355 million fine for years of business fraud in New York.
Along with interest and other costs, those two rulings alone could set Trump back as much as $600 million.
While Trump is a billionaire, his choice to pass his legal costs on to his donors is threatening to derail the GOP’s national fundraising efforts. Trump is now attempting a takeover of the Republican National Committee, planting MAGA loyalists and even his own daughter-in-law at the top echelons of party leadership.
The Daily Beast previously reported that this self-interested maneuvering could severely constrain the RNC as the national party struggles to unify behind its beleaguered standard-bearer during a monumental election cycle.
But Trump can’t raise money with the party until he officially secures the nomination, which could happen as soon as March. And a breakdown of the Trump campaign’s spending last month shows that the primary contest is taking its toll, even as that competition winnowed to just Haley.
The campaign’s biggest January line item was the nearly $4.7 million spent for placed media, which accounts for TV ad spending. Another roughly $820,000 went out the door for audio visual support at events, $602,000 for video production, nearly $550,000 in travel-related expenses, and more than $450,000 for polling services.
The campaign also shelled out about $15,000 for teleprompter services, a sharp increase over recent months, as Trump held rallies to bolster support as primary voting got underway. Outside of those direct political costs, however, the campaign’s biggest expense was the $830,000 it also dropped on lawyers.

Help me out here - I don’t know campaign finance law well at all. But as I understood, a PAC can’t “coordinate” with a campaign. That seems like a pointless distinction when a PAC can apparently…just directly transfer money to a campaign. What am I missing here?

The fact that you obviously hate freedom?

Kyrie Eleison · February 21

https://www.threads.net/@dcs_coffee_shop/post/C3ez1OfMvK0

Brisketexan · February 21

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Transfers between a candidate’s committees for the same office

In the same election

Funds and assets may be transferred without limit between a candidate’s principal campaign committee and the candidate’s other authorized committees for the same office during the same election. However, an authorized committee may not transfer funds to another authorized committee of the same candidate if the transferring committee has net debts outstanding.

So I still don't understand. Donations directly to a candidate's committee are limited/capped, AND are public. But donations to a PAC are unlimited, and are not public. Sinister Shitheads Inc. can donated eleventy billion dollars to the "Save America" PAC, and we'll never know about it (except the PAC's reported COH will skyrocket). Then, Save America can just transfer all of that money to the Trump campaign, circumventing the limits and reporting requirements? Again, I am positive that I'm missing something/flat-out don't get it.

High Plains Drifter · February 21

24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So I still don't understand. Donations directly to a candidate's committee are limited/capped, AND are public. But donations to a PAC are unlimited, and are not public. Sinister Shitheads Inc. can donated eleventy billion dollars to the "Save America" PAC, and we'll never know about it (except the PAC's reported COH will skyrocket). Then, Save America can just transfer all of that money to the Trump campaign, circumventing the limits and reporting requirements? Again, I am positive that I'm missing something/flat-out don't get it.

It almost sounds like you don't want the rich to be able to anonymously buy candidates. Again, why do you hate freedom?

Macanudo · February 21

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

So I still don't understand. Donations directly to a candidate's committee are limited/capped, AND are public. But donations to a PAC are unlimited, and are not public. Sinister Shitheads Inc. can donated eleventy billion dollars to the "Save America" PAC, and we'll never know about it (except the PAC's reported COH will skyrocket). Then, Save America can just transfer all of that money to the Trump campaign, circumventing the limits and reporting requirements? Again, I am positive that I'm missing something/flat-out don't get it.

For the self-proclaimed Leader of the Ledge Party, some times you're not too smart.

Francisco 2.0 · February 21

4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Help me out here - I don’t know campaign finance law well at all. But as I understood, a PAC can’t “coordinate” with a campaign. That seems like a pointless distinction when a PAC can apparently…just directly transfer money to a campaign. What am I missing here?

4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

So I still don't understand. Donations directly to a candidate's committee are limited/capped, AND are public. But donations to a PAC are unlimited, and are not public. Sinister Shitheads Inc. can donated eleventy billion dollars to the "Save America" PAC, and we'll never know about it (except the PAC's reported COH will skyrocket). Then, Save America can just transfer all of that money to the Trump campaign, circumventing the limits and reporting requirements? Again, I am positive that I'm missing something/flat-out don't get it

From the outside looking in, you can’t understand it. And from the inside looking out, you can’t explain it.

Edited February 21 by Francisco 2.0

BamaATL · February 21

29 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

From the outside looking in, you can’t understand it. And from the inside looking out, you can’t explain it.

So its cryptocurrency?

Rimbo · February 21

8 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-cash-crunch-just-got-much-much-worse?ref=wrap

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The super PAC has been kicking that refund back in $5 million installments beginning late last spring, but that emergency bailout won’t last, either—the full refund is set to be completed by June.

There’s another metric for the depth of Trump’s financial strain: Save America itself had to bail out yet another one of Trump’s PACs, transferring $500,000 to his old campaign committee in the middle of January. That group, called “Make America Great Again PAC,” started the year with only about $570,000 in the bank, so the mid-month injection from the sputtering Save America suggests that MAGA PAC might very well be in danger of bottoming out too.

A Trump spokesperson didn’t immediately respond to a comment request.

As he heads into his third consecutive presidential campaign, it’s safe to say Trump’s cash apparatus is complicated.

At this point, the Save America PAC exists almost exclusively to cover the former president’s legal bills, but Trump also has to fund his political campaign. He does that by raising the bulk of his money through a joint fundraising committee, which automatically splits the proceeds—90 percent goes to the campaign, with Save America cleaning up the other 10 percent, according to the terms of online solicitations.

Last month, however, the joint fundraising committee didn’t send any money to Save America, the latest filings show, though it did transfer about $8.5 million to the Trump campaign. This suggests Save America might still have as much as $850,000 headed its way from January fundraising efforts—a drop in the bucket, considering the ferocious burn rate of those legal costs.

Trump’s cash crunch is hitting at a terrible time. Recent weeks have seen two massive legal judgments against the former president. First came the $83.3 million sum for the writer E. Jean Carroll, whom he was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming; that was followed weeks later with a whopping $355 million fine for years of business fraud in New York.

Along with interest and other costs, those two rulings alone could set Trump back as much as $600 million.

While Trump is a billionaire, his choice to pass his legal costs on to his donors is threatening to derail the GOP’s national fundraising efforts. Trump is now attempting a takeover of the Republican National Committee, planting MAGA loyalists and even his own daughter-in-law at the top echelons of party leadership.

The Daily Beast previously reported that this self-interested maneuvering could severely constrain the RNC as the national party struggles to unify behind its beleaguered standard-bearer during a monumental election cycle.

But Trump can’t raise money with the party until he officially secures the nomination, which could happen as soon as March. And a breakdown of the Trump campaign’s spending last month shows that the primary contest is taking its toll, even as that competition winnowed to just Haley.

The campaign’s biggest January line item was the nearly $4.7 million spent for placed media, which accounts for TV ad spending. Another roughly $820,000 went out the door for audio visual support at events, $602,000 for video production, nearly $550,000 in travel-related expenses, and more than $450,000 for polling services.

The campaign also shelled out about $15,000 for teleprompter services, a sharp increase over recent months, as Trump held rallies to bolster support as primary voting got underway. Outside of those direct political costs, however, the campaign’s biggest expense was the $830,000 it also dropped on lawyers.

lol he runs his campaigns like he runs his businesses

Rimbo · February 21

6 hours ago, tokamak said:

Why does Trump's presidential campaign need money?

the entire right wing media apparatus exists

the MSM breathlessly covers his every utterance in a misguided pursuit of "balance"

Musk, Vlad, et al are going to do their part on social media

Because you still need suckers dumb enough to keep sending good money after bad to keep the grift going. People wise up to the scam.

henrygandorf · February 22

TeeDubya · February 22

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

Do they come in 4XL? (Asking for a Dotard)

NWBuck · February 22

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

Like he could button those with his wee tiny hands...

These do make sense, given his interest in showers of gold

tx 3 putt · February 22

This is one stupid mother fucker …..

Art Vandelay · February 22

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

This is one stupid mother fucker …..

And his followers are even more stupid to believe it

tx 3 putt · February 22

1 minute ago, Art Vandelay said:

And his followers are even more stupid to believe it

there are posters here, some with a college degree that believe and idolize him

Edited February 22 by tx 3 putt

Art Vandelay · February 22

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

there are posters here, some with a college degree that believe him

Oh believe me, I know some myself. Makes me beyond sad.

Fastbreak · February 22

Trump isn't lying when he said it was the greatest economy ever -- for him and his family.

His son in law walked off with 3 billion after just 4 years. That is a hell of an economy.

Red Five · February 22

Has never won the popular vote, but could take on Lincoln and Washington. Also he began the sentence with "Sir..." which means he's lying.

Nice Guy Eddie · February 22

7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

This is one stupid mother fucker …..

Trump vs. Zombie George Washington? Honesty, I would want to hear a few of Washington's ideas before I voted for him. In this scenario, can GW communicate with words?

Js1 · February 22

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Has never won the popular vote, but could take on Lincoln and Washington. Also he began the sentence with "Sir..." which means he's lying.

Also his mouth was moving, so you know he was lying.

Macanudo · February 22

9 hours ago, NWBuck said:

Like he could button those with his wee tiny hands...

These do make sense, given his interest in showers of gold

The buttons are purely cosmetic. Those are pullups.

texasdago · February 22

On 2/21/2024 at 8:58 AM, atomheartbevo said:

“Jewing me down”

doesn’t look like Melania

he’s on his iPad like a child

And so on..

Not to mention he has to sit behind velvet ropes... and can someone explain the patio umbrella to me?

YGIFS · February 22

That's legitimately the first time I've seen him with Melania in months. Or this footage old? The umbrella is a typical secret service move to make it more difficult for snipers to get an accurate read. I've seen that before in person, not that weird actually.

But yes, the only time he's not staring at his iPad is when the guy says "Jewing me" But seriously, if he was the current President, it wouldn't be strange to stare at some comms device for legit reasons. But other than my 9yo and a USSCOM Admiral, who the fuck brings a tablet to a dinner?

Macanudo · February 22

Is it Melania though?

tx 3 putt · February 22

2 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Is it Melania though?

hell no it isnt her

Edited February 22 by tx 3 putt

texasdago · February 22

21 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

The umbrella is a typical secret service move to make it more difficult for snipers to get an accurate read. I've seen that before in person, not that weird actually.

Seems kind of weird inside a building unless... "GET AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS!?!?" or monkeys in the chandeliers

Macanudo · February 22

Monkey snipers flinging poisonous poo.

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