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2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

these stats are fun until you realize they don't matter at all.  there aren't 74mm registered republicans, yet trump got 74mm votes and the gop gained ground in the house and held their own in the senate.  i'm not worried about registered republicans, i'm worried about 74mm trump voters.

And you are conflating the 74M who voted for Trump with hardcore trumpists. And that’s ok I’m not going to waste time trying to convince you you are wrong but time will show you are. 

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2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

We’re still in the beginnings of investigation but the impatient American in me can’t wait until someone puts all the different plots together in a book or movie 10 years from now. 
 

From the early steps of slowing down the mail to limit Democratic votes from being on time, 

to indoctrinating his followers that it will be rigged all year 

then after the election, firing key department heads and installing loyalists. 

Inviting Republican legislators from different states to get them to elect different electors 

to filing 60 lawsuits 

to pressuring GA officials to find him more votes 

to firing GA federal attorney for not investigating non existing voter fraud 

to getting Barr to resign and trying to get Rosen to investigate non existent fraud 

to organizing the Jan 6 “rally” through various subsidiaries 

to his lackeys and him not approving NG to intervene for over 2 hours. 


There’s just so much 

The scary thing is in more capable hands it probably works.  In Trump's hands each of these steps were just the screaming crying kicks of a narcissistic lunatic.  

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3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

And you are conflating the 74M who voted for Trump with hardcore trumpists. And that’s ok I’m not going to waste time trying to convince you you are wrong but time will show you are. 

i don't think all 74mm are hardcore trumpers and i know all 74mm aren't hardcore registered republicans.  there's a venn diagram and the overlap is bigger than it should be.  i think the fact that, as you stated, there aren't that many registered republicans, yet after 4 years of being a miserable excuse for a president, he still managed to get 74mm people to vote for him is a horrifying situation we find ourselves in.

i heard a bunch of stats and polls between 2018 and 2020 that led me to believe we were in for a blowout blue wave, yet the gop overperformed at pretty much every level, including the presidential election.  that's alarming.

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11 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i don't think all 74mm are hardcore trumpers and i know all 74mm aren't hardcore registered republicans.  there's a venn diagram and the overlap is bigger than it should be.  i think the fact that, as you stated, there aren't that many registered republicans, yet after 4 years of being a miserable excuse for a president, he still managed to get 74mm people to vote for him is a horrifying situation we find ourselves in.

i heard a bunch of stats and polls between 2018 and 2020 that led me to believe we were in for a blowout blue wave, yet the gop overperformed at pretty much every level, including the presidential election.  that's alarming.

 

Trump on the ballot is the only explanation.  Without him in 2018, there was a blue wave. 

 

 

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The scary thing is in more capable hands it probably works.  In Trump's hands each of these steps were just the screaming crying kicks of a narcissistic lunatic.  

This was the dry run. They’ve proven that they’re willing to do it all. They will do it again and again until it works. When you understand that what we’re dealing with is a terrorist insurgency that will not rest until it takes absolute and irrevocable power, you’ll see that.
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This was the dry run. They’ve proven that they’re willing to do it all. They will do it again and again until it works. When you understand that what we’re dealing with is a terrorist insurgency that will not rest until it takes absolute and irrevocable power, you’ll see that.

Oh absolutely.  The Biden Presidency is the most dangerous times we have ever been in.  It has absolutely nothing to do with Biden personally being dangerous and everything to do with can he/we unite and stamp this shit out or does it set up for somebody with the same appeal to base human idiocy that Trump had BUT who actually has conceived and can execute an evil plan.  Trump was just in it for Trump.  The next guy....who the fuck knows.  

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I see a small sign of hope, a house down the street finally took down their trump/pence yard sign yesterday.  Hopefully the one two blocks away will be gone soon as well.  Hard for me to believe I live in the same small town as some of these people and never knew they are borderline insane.

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33 minutes ago, RPM said:

The hardcore with Trump flags are still flying them in Wise County. I kinda doubt they ever stop.

It's a terrible idea, but I'm wondering if any of the merch grifters have created a Confederate flag with Trump's face superimposed over it. Could probably set up shop in Smith County and sell out quickly.

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1 hour ago, AnTiM said:

I see a small sign of hope, a house down the street finally took down their trump/pence yard sign yesterday.  Hopefully the one two blocks away will be gone soon as well.  Hard for me to believe I live in the same small town as some of these people and never knew they are borderline insane.

The flags have vanished within a few blocks from us. Even more surprising to me is the guy who took the Trump 2020 and MAGA stickers off of the tailgate of his truck. Cleanly, even. 

Had a few beers w/ an old, wealthy, dyed-in-the-wool Republican last Fri. I talked about him in the run up to election thread. He confirmed he voted for Biden--first time he'd ever voted D for president--and was glad to see Trump gone. He then showed us some of the Q memes his 30-something son was sending him about Biden & how he'd told him to cut that shit out, he didn't want to see that crap & that it was time to support the new administration. Of course the son is a "self-made guy" if you overlook the fact that his dad has paid for everything in his life: college, cars, houses. The kid's probably got a legit concern that some of the millions he stands to inherit may be at risk under Biden's admin. How will the poor kid ever get a break in life?

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1 minute ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

 He confirmed he voted for Biden--first time he'd ever voted D for president--

I don't know what to call it, loyalty? Inertia? Reluctant to change? Whatever, it is holding back some of the populace whenever they think about (if they think at all) their vote and what it means. Some time back, there was an article posted about temperament/characteristics and voting. Credit to whomever you are--but if I recall it discussed loyalty to party as being something with which more Republican voters identified. I'm not going to use the word conservative and tie it to Republicans because they aren't really, but it does seem to be linked in a way? In a conversation with a hard R neighbor, that was a real sticking point. Sure, it was a rationalization for supporting a racist shitbag conman, but how anyone could look at the GOP platform, such as it was, and make the determination to stay the course just boggled the mind.

I mean, the Democratic Party had bullet point proposals, goals and objectives and the GOP had vague foggy ideals that didn't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. I liken it to getting tossed overboard without a life vest and on the verge of drowning. Oh, look! Here's a ringbuoy to help me stay afloat; but wait, is that going to raise my taxes versus Well, the ocean doesn't seem so bad even though I can't see the shore and my arms are tired, I'll stay with the GOP!

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5 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I don't know what to call it, loyalty? Inertia? Reluctant to change? Whatever, it is holding back some of the populace whenever they think about (if they think at all) their vote and what it means. Some time back, there was an article posted about temperament/characteristics and voting. Credit to whomever you are--but if I recall it discussed loyalty to party as being something with which more Republican voters identified. I'm not going to use the word conservative and tie it to Republicans because they aren't really, but it does seem to be linked in a way? In a conversation with a hard R neighbor, that was a real sticking point. Sure, it was a rationalization for supporting a racist shitbag conman, but how anyone could look at the GOP platform, such as it was, and make the determination to stay the course just boggled the mind.

I mean, the Democratic Party had bullet point proposals, goals and objectives and the GOP had vague foggy ideals that didn't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever. I liken it to getting tossed overboard without a life vest and on the verge of drowning. Oh, look! Here's a ringbuoy to help me stay afloat; but wait, is that going to raise my taxes versus Well, the ocean doesn't seem so bad even though I can't see the shore and my arms are tired, I'll stay with the GOP!

The real problem for the GOP platform is that it never really decreases taxes all that much while providing almost no services with those taxes. With Dems, you get some ROI. With the GOP, you can't even get a bridge or highway funded.  A good example is the EPA. It's budget has been largely unchanged through Obama and Trump. But Trump's EPA did almost nothing.  If the GOP actually made federal income tax the bare minimum so that states could tax and fund local projects, they might have something. 

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15 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

i heard a bunch of stats and polls between 2018 and 2020 that led me to believe we were in for a blowout blue wave, yet the gop overperformed at pretty much every level, including the presidential election.  that's alarming.

This is exactly why I was a fucking wreck the day after the election.  I thought Biden would ultimately win, but just the fact that it was as close as it was and not a blowout just made me despondent for a while.  These people are not what my country should be.

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7 hours ago, AnTiM said:

I see a small sign of hope, a house down the street finally took down their trump/pence yard sign yesterday.  Hopefully the one two blocks away will be gone soon as well.  Hard for me to believe I live in the same small town as some of these people and never knew they are borderline insane.

Drove to Fredericksburg this weekend.  A lot of dotard signs still up, but one of them on 281 has been replaced with a "Pray for the United States" sign.  

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4 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

The real problem for the GOP platform is that it never really decreases taxes all that much while providing almost no services with those taxes. With Dems, you get some ROI. With the GOP, you can't even get a bridge or highway funded.  A good example is the EPA. It's budget has been largely unchanged through Obama and Trump. But Trump's EPA did almost nothing.  If the GOP actually made federal income tax the bare minimum so that states could tax and fund local projects, they might have something. 

You're not wrong, but the tax argument is one that the hard R voter has a hard time letting go. As in my analogy, they spurn the lifebuoy so they can try and swim to the yacht that they'll never reach.

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9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is exactly why I was a fucking wreck the day after the election.  I thought Biden would ultimately win, but just the fact that it was as close as it was and not a blowout just made me despondent for a while.  These people are not what my country should be.

Similar for me.  Went to bed Tuesday night, depressed, thinking 'well shit, I must be the asshole, the majority of the country wants Trump, I guess I'll just have to deal with it."

Which is what Trumpers should have thought at the final tally.  Instead, their first thought is FIX!

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13 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

The real problem for the GOP platform is that it never really decreases taxes all that much while providing almost no services with those taxes. With Dems, you get some ROI. With the GOP, you can't even get a bridge or highway funded.  A good example is the EPA. It's budget has been largely unchanged through Obama and Trump. But Trump's EPA did almost nothing.  If the GOP actually made federal income tax the bare minimum so that states could tax and fund local projects, they might have something. 

This makes perfect sense if you understand that the GOP is the "we hate the government party" and they want voters to be angry at the government.  For the GOP, a dysfunctional government that taxes without accomplishing anything and that provides awful services is the end goal.  You keep getting elected on the promise to further break the government, your donors make money by selling things that ought to be provided or by contracting with the government at three times the cost it would take to hire a government worker.  And you do this all the way from the federal level to the school board. 

This scam will work among a certain type of voter until the end of time.

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On 1/22/2021 at 6:02 PM, Sawbonz said:

Who said those actions don’t count?

I haven’t seen anyone say assaulting federal LEO is ok

I will say it doesn’t come close to what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6  

Also the sad truth is if BLM pulled that shit on the steps of the Capitol there would have been a bunch of dead black guys before the barriers were even breached

 

 

 

 

 

shit, there would have been A-10 Warthogs straffing the protestors domestic terrorists.

 

 

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On 1/24/2021 at 5:00 AM, Bookman said:

It's Sunday morning in San Antonio, Texas, and Donald J. Trump is not President of the United States.

In socialist Chicago on another shitty freezing Monday - a LOT less shitty since DJT is not our President.  Less crying people.  

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On 1/23/2021 at 9:31 PM, henrygandorf said:

i don't think all 74mm are hardcore trumpers and i know all 74mm aren't hardcore registered republicans.  there's a venn diagram and the overlap is bigger than it should be.  i think the fact that, as you stated, there aren't that many registered republicans, yet after 4 years of being a miserable excuse for a president, he still managed to get 74mm people to vote for him is a horrifying situation we find ourselves in.

i heard a bunch of stats and polls between 2018 and 2020 that led me to believe we were in for a blowout blue wave, yet the gop overperformed at pretty much every level, including the presidential election.  that's alarming.

There’s a lot of people who vote R for their family’s wallet - that may be wrong but that’s a different argument. The fact the R’s gained seats overall while Trump lost is actually a good sign - it’s probably the only election in modern times where, overall, people didn’t pull the lever for a straight party vote - I’m no expert there.

Also, the Lincoln Project group is still doing very real work to blow up the fascist R wing.  We need to stay diligent but there’s WAY too much pussy panic talk in this thread.  Trump LOST and we are still working to smash Cruz, Hawley, etc etc 

 

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He'll live there permanently and no consequences will come from it.  No accountability ever for that cunt.   

Yeah, the guy illegally involved a former Soviet Bloc nation in our federal election process.  Then incited an insurrection against our own seat of Government which was 50% occupied by his friends and sidekick.  But yeah, some HOA by-laws (that he fucking wrote) are gonna be his downfall.  Are people seriously this stupid?  

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So good friend in Austin who sold his business a few years ago and is early retired. We have never ever discussed politics. We see each other a few times a year. 
We never discussed it but both assumed to be publicans. He called and stated he now sees Trump for what he is. Told his family who is mostly Trump supporters he cannot support the guy cause what he has done to USA. He said he was originally a Trump supporter. 
He would definitely be a 1% on surly if he was on surly. 
 

I now feel there is hope for America. 

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