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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Everything Trump Touches Dies

It is all I can do to not say anything about this in the regular thread. You mentioned Nurse being Nurse and I want a time check between this post of Trump and the hit.

 

Sorry, I knew what ETTD is — was just putting the question mark at the end for Schtick. Didn’t relative that acronym/hashtag was in the tweet.

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So wait, now the snake is electric in addition to the shark?  Or the snake is on the boat?  He used to just brush this shit off and not even address it but now he's doubling back on the Pelosi/Haley mixup and the boat/shark deal to safe face.  Early next week, he'll address the Ronnie Johnson/Ronny Jackson fuckup.  He's exhibiting attributes that suggest he's subconsciously coming to terms that he's a cornered rat.  Which can be good, and bad.  Trump 2016 and 2020 never would have bothered to loop back to shit like this.  He would have laughed if off, blamed somebody else, and begun a new chain of lies.  This is the precisely desired part of the pattern.  He will also begin to redouble his efforts to attack Jack Smith before the month is out.  And will further distance himself from his family.  

the man is dying.  

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36 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

😂😂😂😂


If she was smart, about one month before the election she'd announce a divorce, spend the next few weeks talking about what a horrible man he is, then live in the lap of liberal luxury for the rest of her life. When asked why she waited so long, she could just say "I wanted to wait until Barron turned 18."  Also, she would reveal that Donald is not Barron's father ---- that in a moment of rage after she found out that Trump had cheated on her before Stormy Daniels, she'd had an affair with a very tall Ukrainian fencer. Big, burly guy. A man's man. Then talk about the horrible things she heard her husband say about various ethnic groups, military veterans, and Christians.

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14 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


If she was smart, about one month before the election she'd announce a divorce, spend the next few weeks talking about what a horrible man he is, then live in the lap of liberal luxury for the rest of her life. When asked why she waited so long, she could just say "I wanted to wait until Barron turned 18."  Also, she would reveal that Donald is not Barron's father ---- that in a moment of rage after she found out that Trump had cheated on her before Stormy Daniels, she'd had an affair with a very tall Ukrainian fencer. Big, burly guy. A man's man. Then talk about the horrible things she heard her husband say about various ethnic groups, military veterans, and Christians.


if she has the means, i would have moved to Europe long ago 

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Seems appropriate.

They Came to See Trump. First They Heard a Pitch to Buy Gold and Silver.
At a recent campaign speech, one of Donald Trump’s warm-up acts was a precious metals salesman being sued by federal regulators for fraud.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/us/they-came-to-see-trump-first-they-heard-a-pitch-to-buy-gold-and-silver.html

 

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A Turning Point Action conference in Detroit in June. The group has helped rally conservatives for Donald J. Trump.

 

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At a conference this month put on by Turning Point Action, a rising conservative activist group, 8,000 people packed into a Detroit convention hall to hear directly from Republicans’ presumptive nominee for president, Donald J. Trump.

But first, there was a word from a sponsor: Alexander Spellane.

 

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Mr. Spellane, who federal regulators say is also known as Alexander Fisher and Alexander Overlie, sells investments in precious metals. Cash, stocks and 401(k)s could plummet in value, he warned from the stage, but he told the throng of Trump supporters that they could protect their money by buying gold and silver from his company, Fisher Capital.

The Commodity Futures Trading Commission has been trying to shut down Fisher Capital’s sales for the past 14 months, alleging in a lawsuit that it sold gold and silver coins at such exorbitant, deceptive prices that virtually every customer had suffered “immediate and dramatic losses on their investment.” Fisher Capital has denied the allegations.

 

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That lawsuit did not keep Turning Point Action from embracing Fisher Capital as a top-level sponsor of the Detroit event, which has required a donation of at least $250,000 and allowed Mr. Spellane to be photographed backstage with Mr. Trump. Mr. Spellane also claims to be the largest corporate sponsor of a sister group, Turning Point USA.

 

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Mr. Spellane’s place on the Detroit stage offers a window into how Charlie Kirk, a young conservative activist and media personality who is close to both Mr. Trump and his son Donald Jr., has blended commerce and politics to transform a fringe initiative into a juggernaut with sweeping influence in right-wing circles. Turning Point Action, an advocacy group, and Turning Point USA, a charitable organization, were each created by Mr. Kirk and have each helped rally conservatives behind Mr. Trump.

This year, Turning Point Action says it plans to spend over $100 million to turn out voters in three battleground states.

The groups’ highly polished, multimillion-dollar events, which have drawn thousands to convention halls in Phoenix, West Palm Beach and elsewhere, are underwritten by corporate sponsors, who gain access to potential customers.

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Alexander Spellane has pledged more than one $1 million to Turning Point groups. In May, he announced that Turning Point USA had appointed him to its advisory board

 

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Fisher Capital was a top level sponsor at a recent Turning Point Action conference in Detroit, typically requiring a donation of at least $250,000

 

While some political groups try to steer clear of corporate sponsors that might prompt blowback from politicians or other donors, the Fisher Capital example shows that Turning Point leaders are willing to look the other way to reel in cash, said Michael Steele, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee. He described Turning Point’s attitude as “as long as the check clears, I’m good.”

“It is an incestuous relationship between the folks with the money and the folks who want the money,” said Mr. Steele, a frequent Trump critic.

Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point spokesman, said the opposite was true. “There is no lack of scrutiny to ensure we’re always abiding by relevant regulations and laws,” he said. Turning Point leaders learned of the fraud claims against Fisher Capital more than a year ago, he said, and “and felt satisfied with their explanation at the time.”

“We live in a country where you are presumed innocent, and we extend that presumption to sponsors and their teams as well,” he said.

Another group that has sponsored Turning Point events is New Federal State of China, a organization that says it is dedicated to overthrowing the Chinese Communist Party. The organization has helped finance two recent annual conferences, including one in December, 10 months after prosecutors charged the group’s founder, Guo Wengui, with defrauding thousands of investors of more than $1 billion with bogus cryptocurrency deals and other schemes.

Mr. Guo has said he is innocent. Mr. Kolvet said Turning Point had no agreement with the New Federal State of China to sponsor future events.

Mr. Trump himself has been found to engage in deceptive business practices. He was convicted late last month on felony charges of falsifying business records. Last year, in a civil case in New York, he was found liable for conspiring to manipulate his net worth.

Mr. Spellane and Fisher Capital have asked a judge to dismiss the federal complaint, arguing that the regulatory agency has no jurisdiction to sue and no evidence of fraud. The firm disclosed its fees to customers and operated “in a similar vein as any retailer in this country,” according to its motion to dismiss. Mr. Spellane did not respond to questions for this article.

Turning Point has only strengthened its relationship with Mr. Spellane since the federal complaint was filed in April 2023. The Detroit conference was the third event the firm has helped finance since then, including an annual conference in December in Phoenix, which drew an estimated 13,000 people.

Mr. Spellane pledged $1 million to Turning Point USA at a February gathering at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s Florida resort, and later announced that the group had appointed him to its advisory board.

In Detroit, Mr. Spellane played up his Turning Point ties, saying, “That’s why we are here for the third year in a row.” He ended with: “Give it up for Donald Trump, everybody!”

Listening with interest was Jeff Strasser, 57, a former carpenter and truck driver who had traveled more than two hours from Northern Michigan to hear Mr. Trump. Mr. Strasser said he was intrigued by Mr. Spellane’s statement that anyone who stopped by the Fisher Capital booth in the adjoining hall would be eligible for up to $10,000 in free silver.

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Jeff Strasser, left, a conference attendee from Michigan, listened to a pitch from Fisher Capital salesman.

He came away from the booth thinking a precious metal investment was a slam dunk.  “You kind of have to be a fool not to want to do it,” he said, adding “I’m talking about maybe switching my whole 401(k) over to it.”

Ian Sangster, a Fisher account executive, said about 50 people stopped by over the weekend, some of whom signed up for a follow-up sales pitch.

Asked if Mr. Spellane’s backstage photos with Mr. Trump would be a selling point for Fisher Capital, Mr. Sangster said: “Yeah. It’s pretty cool, right?”

Both Fisher Capital and New Federal State of China have ties to high-profile Trump allies. Fisher Capital’s spokesman is Roger Stone, a Trump associate who was convicted in 2019 of lying to Congress and witness tampering. He was later pardoned by Mr. Trump.

Mr. Guo founded the New Federal State of China with Stephen K. Bannon, a former Trump strategist and keynote speaker at many Turning Point events. Neither the group nor Mr. Bannon was charged in Mr. Guo’s fraud case. Mr. Bannon was named as a co-conspirator.

Mr. Bannon was charged in a separate criminal case with swindling donors in a supposed effort to finance a wall on the Mexico border. He pleaded not guilty and was pardoned by Mr. Trump before his trial. He now faces state charges in New York stemming from the same effort. He was convicted of contempt of Congress after refusing to testify about efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and is scheduled to begin serving a four-month prison sentence next week.

Mr. Spellane is a relative newcomer to the Trump political world. Just 31, he never registered with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission to trade precious metals, as required, the agency says. Its complaint, filed less than three years after Fisher Capital opened in 2020, said the operation was meant to trick older, unsophisticated investors into swapping their retirement savings for gold and silver coins priced as high as 200 percent over their market value. The company is not connected to Fisher Investments, a Texas-based firm.

Targeting Christian conservatives was central to the scheme, according to the complaint. Salespeople falsely claimed that Fisher had teamed up with conservative media personalities — who were not named — to protect customers from a looming retirement crisis, it said.

James A. Simpson Jr., an evangelical pastor from western Ohio who visited Fisher Capital’s booth at the conference, said that the Turning Point imprimatur “absolutely” bestowed credibility on the company.

After learning of the fraud claims, Mr. Simpson, 61, said he would have hoped that Mr. Kirk, Turning Point’s founder, “would have diligently done some research as far as whether he felt the allegations were valid or not” before giving Mr. Spellane an opportunity to drum up customers. He said he would be very cautious about pursuing any investment.

Regulators are seeking to permanently bar Mr. Spellane and Fisher Capital from trading commodities like precious metals and to recoup money investors lost. Steven Adamske, a spokesman for the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, said the agency’s lawsuit was moving slowly, like most such cases.

Typically, by the time government lawyers are able to shut down an operation, “the money is already gone,” he said.

 

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Debate - rigged
2020 election - rigged
2022 election - rigged 
Academy Awards - rigged
Pulitzers - rigged
Trump U case - rigged
Carroll trial - rigged
Election lawsuits - rigged
Criminal trial - rigged
Rudy trial - rigged
Bannon & Navarro trials - rigged
J6 Committee- rigged
Civil fraud trial - rigged
Polls - rigged

Everything is rigged!!!

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Just now, tx 3 putt said:

Debate - rigged
2020 election - rigged
2022 election - rigged 
Academy Awards - rigged
Pulitzers - rigged
Trump U case - rigged
Carroll trial - rigged
Election lawsuits - rigged
Criminal trial - rigged
Rudy trial - rigged
Bannon & Navarro trials - rigged
J6 Committee- rigged
Civil fraud trial - rigged
Polls - rigged

Everything is rigged!!!

To anyone with an IQ over about 70, it should be painfully fucking obvious what this conman is doing. Should be.

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8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Debate - rigged
2020 election - rigged
2022 election - rigged 
Academy Awards - rigged
Pulitzers - rigged
Trump U case - rigged
Carroll trial - rigged
Election lawsuits - rigged
Criminal trial - rigged
Rudy trial - rigged
Bannon & Navarro trials - rigged
J6 Committee- rigged
Civil fraud trial - rigged
Polls - rigged

Everything is rigged!!!

Every accusation is a confession.

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i remember when we had presidents that acted all presidential and said shit that was altruistic all the time. 

I would bet good money that not only has Trump never uttered the word “democracy” but that hes the only President who never referred the US as a democracy.

It’s like Im taking crazy pills that grown up adults that say they love America like to argue that America is a “Republic” not a “Democracy” like they are mutually exclusive of each other. So are we like the People’s Republic of China?
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