A story about a pathetic man's downfall [34 Felony Convictions]

[Francisco 2.0 32586]

Just now, Beau Vine said:

Didn't Trump have several lawyers sitting right next to him during this phone call?
WTF were they doing?

Nodding their heads in agreement and giving high fives to each other when  the Trumpster delivered a zinger.  Because they have drank the Kool-Aid.

 

[TexasEd 8266]

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

So the over/under is 1 day?

Take the under

[aggie08 21794]

I think the most surprising part about the call, to me at least, is that he believes the shit coming out of his mouth. Obviously, he surrounds himself with yes men who tell him exactly what he wants to hear, but I always assumed that, deep down, he knew what he was doing and was laughing to himself about his ability to twist people up with lies, both positively and negatively. I think I was, somehow, giving him too much credit. He's just plain old dumb.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

Didn't Trump have several lawyers sitting right next to him during this phone call?
WTF were they doing?

Cleta? Hmmm, you could leave a message of inquiry at her office: 202.295.4081--she might call you back.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3555]

Didn't Trump have several lawyers sitting right next to him during this phone call?
WTF were they doing?

I'm sorry have you met Trump's lawyers?

[4th&Five 41988]

17 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I think the most surprising part about the call, to me at least, is that he believes the shit coming out of his mouth. Obviously, he surrounds himself with yes men who tell him exactly what he wants to hear, but I always assumed that, deep down, he knew what he was doing and was laughing to himself about his ability to twist people up with lies, both positively and negatively. I think I was, somehow, giving him too much credit. He's just plain old dumb.

I posted similar earlier. He’s not just dumb though. He’s fucking nuts. The 25th is for this exact situation. 

[Pato del Muerto 53462]

38 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

A few of these too. 

Go on

[Bookman 4758]

25 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Didn't Trump have several lawyers sitting right next to him during this phone call?
WTF were they doing?

They were billing.

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

he's going to burn it down tomorrow 

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

That's not an unfamiliar concept for Georgia I guess.

Big

Spoiler

 

 

[conVINCEd 21477]

1 minute ago, Bookman said:

They were billing.

Billing is fine.  You eventually have to collect, and that’s going to be a problem.

[Bookman 4758]

Just now, conVINCEd said:

Billing is fine.  You eventually have to collect, and that’s going to be a problem.

I assume they got a retainer. This is Donald Trump we're talking about.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3555]

I assume they got a retainer. This is Donald Trump we're talking about.

Counterpoint. They're Trump attorneys.

[Biff Tannen 46161]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

It's amazing how many times this tweet has had relevance since October 1, 2016:

 

Yes, but we found out it’s not really accurate. He doesn’t wriggle his way out of anything. People just ignore their responsibilities and LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT. 

[Degenerate Gardner 4159]

 

 

 

[Brisketexan 106880]

It's ludicrous.  Kayleigh probably mumbled to Chanel that it was attorney-client privileged (because lawyers were there), while someone with a brain vigorously shook their head "no no no," so it became a "settlement conference."
Settlement conferences and negotiations, if this was one, are not admissible in court to prove liability in the underlying dispute.  They are admissible for all other purposes.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_408
Formal settlement conferences, i.e. mediations, are governed by that Rule as well as a confidentiality agreement signed by all parties and the mediator.
This wasn't a settlement conference.  There's nothing legally confidential about it. Georgia and DC are "one party" states, meaning only one party to a call need consent to recording.  That party can then make the recording public.

Quoting to repeat it, because it’s important. If they filed suit over the recording being released, the response should be an immediate motion for sanctions and attorneys fees. Settlement communications, except in very specific circumstances (eg, mediation - not at issue here) are not confidential. Period. And there’s certainly no cause of action. It’s a bad faith suit. The lawyers should be immediately sanctioned. No need for a hearing even.

[Brisketexan 106880]

 

 

A man doesn’t commit election crimes and attack our democracy. So fuck off, you band of worthless cocksuckers.

[TwiceHorn 32074]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Quoting to repeat it, because it’s important. If they filed suit over the recording being released, the response should be an immediate motion for sanctions and attorneys fees. Settlement communications, except in very specific circumstances (eg, mediation - not at issue here) are not confidential. Period. And there’s certainly no cause of action. It’s a bad faith suit. The lawyers should be immediately sanctioned. No need for a hearing even.

I really want to see the suit.  Probably subject to the SLAPP statute too.

[Dr. Teeth 5868]

12 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

 

 

 

But handing over laptops...

[Surly Bevo 25731]

A man also doesn't wear orange makeup, lifts in his shoes and a nutria toupee. 

[Mole 4339]

A definition of masculinity so depraved it defies belief.

Also, I’m not sure what the hubbub is all about. During the impeachment, Senate republicans admitted that the president attempted extortion in support of his election efforts. They said it was no big deal then, so why should we fuss now when he does the same thing on tape? It’s what the president does. We could have avoided this like a year ago.

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1 hour ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

 

[woohorn 1131]

I assume they got a retainer. This is Donald Trump we're talking about.

Billing is fine.  You eventually have to collect, and that’s going to be a problem.

Can't be paid. Cleta is partner at BigLaw firm. She is working in her capacity as a private citizen. Partnership agreement prevents her maintaining any private practice outside firm.

[Gatorubet 30711]

We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We'd be getting 25-30,000 people a rally and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.”

Ho-lee shit! He won ‘cause boat parades.

So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

No problem fam.....11,781 coming up!

I have to find 12,000 votes and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state.

I thought you said 11,781???

Trump: No, we do have a way but I don't want to get into it. We found a way in other states excuse me, but we don't need it because we're only down 11,000 votes so we don't even need it. I personally think they're corrupt as hell. But we don't need that. Because all we have to do Cleta is find 11,000-plus votes. So we don't need that.

I mean, we cheated in other states with big numbers, so we only need some minor cheating here guys....guys?

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13624]

I've been told throughout this pandemic that nothing stands in between Alpha Male Hero Warrior and Freedom. Of course, now there's suddenly Little Lord Fauntleroy etiquette and courtesy.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand

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He's tweeting up a storm, and dodging the phone call issue it seems.  I half-expected him to be hulking out on twitter at the Georgia SOS.

[yoladu 4190]

3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

he will make many calls and have many meetings! WTF! who wrote this?

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13624]

There will be much rejoicing!

[jimmyjazz 47136]

4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Did someone already post about DC's mayor? Asking citizens to stay home for the next few days and away from the Trump rally stuff in the capitol to avoid mayhem and unrest.

The social media right-wing freakout du jour is claiming the DC Mayor closed all hotels, grocery stores, etc. 

She did no such thing.  She closed museums and indoor dining.  Hotels are open, grocery stores are open, the list goes on, but the Proud boys and girls are all stocking up on supplies and camping gear because they are convinced the city is shut down in advance of their "rally".

[jimmyjazz 47136]

1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

A man also doesn't wear orange makeup, lifts in his shoes and a nutria toupee. 

OK, "nutria toupee" got me laughing out loud.  My wife thinks I'm nuts.

Well, more nuts than usual.

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The social media right-wing freakout du jour is claiming the DC Mayor closed all hotels, grocery stores, etc. 

She did no such thing.  She closed museums and indoor dining.  Hotels are open, grocery stores are open, the list goes on, but the Proud boys and girls are all stocking up on supplies and camping gear because they are convinced the city is shut down in advance of their "rally".

We'll find out that Academy and other sporting goods stores put the rumors out on social media that there everything was closed and people needed to stock up on camping and outdoor supplies.

[Superhero 9017]

8 hours ago, aggie08 said:

The President feels that there was lots of fraud, and that should be what matters. Frankly, you guys are being awfully mean to his feels.

Sorry, a little late to the party, but to baby...

[jimmyjazz 47136]

I'm still laughing.  What a dead-on perfect description of Trump's hairpiece, the "nutria toupee".  For those who don't know what a nutria is:

[Pato del Muerto 53462]

43 minutes ago, yoladu said:

he will make many calls and have many meetings! WTF! who wrote this?

 

If it was many, many calls and many, many meetings id have postulated commandant Lassard. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

I found the whole 11,780 votes especially funny.

Like, “Just fix it so I win by one vote! They’ll never get suspicious about that!”.

It’s just so stupid.

[Born to Run 6601]

There is no incentive for Pence not to pardon Trump. 

Other than the fact the
pardon will be a 500 page list of grievances sprinkled with excuses for crimes. Gonna take a stenographer, some speed and Kerouac writing style to finish in time.

[Hornius Emeritus 12798]

What incentive does Pence have to pardon Trump?

[henrygandorf 29225]

25 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I found the whole 11,780 votes especially funny.

Like, “Just fix it so I win by one vote! They’ll never get suspicious about that!”.

It’s just so stupid.

look, i could use a few million bucks, that would be nice. but all i need right now is  like 25 grand, that would hold me over.  

[henrygandorf 29225]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Didn't Trump have several lawyers sitting right next to him during this phone call?
WTF were they doing?

you ever heard of maurice levy?  clients like trump are an atm machine*, just let them keep being themselves. 

what else are the attorneys supposed to do?

 

* as long as they get paid from the “stop the steal” fundraising effort

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

6 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

What incentive does Pence have to pardon Trump?

His political future.  Many people still don’t fully understand the dynamics of the current GOP and I’m not talking about the politicians, I’m talking about the voters.  They are the cult.  If Pence is given the opportunity to pardon Trump but refuses it will be seen as a betrayal by the cult and Trump will make it perceived as a betrayal.  The precedent set by Ford pardoning Nixon is Trump’s best chance to avoid federal prosecution.  

[Player 4610]

I found the whole 11,780 votes especially funny.

Like, “Just fix it so I win by one vote! They’ll never get suspicious about that!”.

It’s just so stupid.

Completely absurd.

Dotard’s pea-brain thinks it’s like an NFL challenge review.

The ruling on the field of a Biden victory in Georgia is under further review.

Upon further review, the President’s foot was in bounds at the 11,780 yard line.

Therefore, the ruling on the field is reversed. The result of the play is a Dotard touchdown.

[Native Horn 3581]

Well let's hope he's not waiting on Mike McCarthy to throw the challenge flag.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13726]

Makes you wonder what calls we do not know about. Is there any doubt that he hasn’t spoken to military leaders asking them how to keep him in power?

[Chooky 13340]

7 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I found the whole 11,780 votes especially funny.

He accidently displayed extreme confidence in Georgia's ability to count.  

[Chad Fuck 18134]

Makes you wonder what calls we do not know about. Is there any doubt that he hasn’t spoken to military leaders asking them how to keep him in power?

Why do you think those 10 DoD Secretaries had to say “military don’t play that?” Because the generals begged them to.

[TwiceHorn 32074]

7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Makes you wonder what calls we do not know about. Is there any doubt that he hasn’t spoken to military leaders asking them how to keep him in power?

Im sure there are thousands upon thousands of presidential phone calls over the years that would make the citizenry blanch for various reasons.

But somewhere in the Trump White House, there is some variety of storage device with thousands of the stupidest, most banal shakedowns in the history of world politics.

[Chooky 13340]

Trump is scurrying around trying to find a way to make a Sharpie drawing that illustrates he never made that phone call.

[TXSG8R 3362]

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Why do you think those 10 DoD Secretaries had to say “military don’t play that?” Because the generals begged them to.

I doubt they begged them to, but I’m sure they passed on all the fuckery they were seeing and hearing in the hopes that someone they trusted would raise some stink about it. The people in uniform are in a supremely shitty spot about this. It’s easy to say they should just publicly denounce Trump but that’s a massive conflict with their duties and would break faith with the CiC as an office. Yes, Trump deserves that break, but the effects would last beyond him.  The military is doing everything possible to stay apolitical. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

27 minutes ago, Player said:

Completely absurd.

Dotard’s pea-brain thinks it’s like an NFL challenge review.

The ruling on the field of a Biden victory in Georgia is under further review.

Upon further review, the President’s foot was in bounds at the 11,780 yard line.

Therefore, the ruling on the field is reversed. The result of the play is a Dotard touchdown.

That's aggie politics right there.

1 minute ago, Chooky said:

Trump is scurrying around trying to find a way to make a Sharpie drawing that illustrates he never made that phone call.

FIFY...signs affixed to all Trump properties: Trump--American President National Champion *(1861-2008), 2016-2020, 2021-????

[TwiceHorn 32074]

3 minutes ago, TXSG8R said:

I doubt they begged them to, but I’m sure they passed on all the fuckery they were seeing and hearing in the hopes that someone they trusted would raise some stink about it. The people in uniform are in a supremely shitty spot about this. It’s easy to say they should just publicly denounce Trump but that’s a massive conflict with their duties and would break faith with the CiC as an office. Yes, Trump deserves that break, but the effects would last beyond him.  The military is doing everything possible to stay apolitical. 

Good post.  As much as it seems incumbent on military leaders to denounce him, and as much as many would probably like to, they represent a constitutional entity with a specified place in the scheme.  It is probably wise of them not to break that constitutional norm.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Good post.  As much as it seems incumbent on military leaders to denounce him, and as much as many would probably like to, they represent a constitutional entity with a specified place in the scheme.  It is probably wise of them not to break that constitutional norm.

I agree, but I'm not well versed in how the military conducts itself during times of unrest. W/O going back and rereading some of the protest threads, can you or someone give me a rundown on the procedure for this week if things were to go south during the next two plus days of Proud Boys/MAGA stuff? That's the National Guard that would handle that? (If it were beyond the local PD capabilities). The Homeland Security troops?

(It's separate from the convo regarding the defense leaders recent statement, but seems pertinent to the discussion as Trump appears prepared to go that route. He admires force. He is gleeful at violence. He wants people hurt.)