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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:28 PM, canadianhorn21 said:

Is it possible Milwee could be brought on in strickly an analyst role? Don't know how likely that would be considering he had an OC job in his lap but that was his role at Bama.

Would free up a spot and allow a sole LB coach

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This is one that I've been wondering about and is a slight possibility.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:28 PM, canadianhorn21 said:

Is it possible Milwee could be brought on in strickly an analyst role? Don't know how likely that would be considering he had an OC job in his lap but that was his role at Bama.

Would free up a spot and allow a sole LB coach

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Only reason this crossed my mind too is I know Riley is his own QB coach, so it’s not unheard of.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:16 PM, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I was focused on his work at Texas. Other than Shiro Davis who wasn't great shakes either that's a huge bust rate. Those other 15 you refer to were hand picked by Nick Saban. Hence my comment about evals. Again, I'm not knocking the hire and I know he has a great rep as a developer of talent, just pointing out that his first run here wasn't necessarily a rousing success. 

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You think Bo hand picked Lorenzo joe and Jake McMillan?  Doubtful.  But even if that were true I’m sure sark will not task him to recruit wideouts and offensive lineman

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:28 PM, texifornia said:

No.

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Did Millwee turn down Butch Jones or did he get passed over? Aren't there reports coming out now that he got passed over? Yeah, it is probably unrealistic for him to take an analyst role for one more year. Just trying to make sense of everything.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:28 PM, canadianhorn21 said:

Is it possible Milwee could be brought on in strickly an analyst role? Don't know how likely that would be considering he had an OC job in his lap but that was his role at Bama.

Would free up a spot and allow a sole LB coach

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Yes. People normally uproot their family and lives and leave a good situation for lateral moves all of the time. That is the most logical conclusion to make. 
 

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:35 PM, Kurt Bowels said:

Did Millwee turn down Butch Jones or did he get passed over? Aren't there reports coming out now that he got passed over? Yeah, it is probably unrealistic for him to take an analyst role for one more year. Just trying to make sense of everything.

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He got hired and announced and then after a week, right when his mentor got a new job, he leaves. Those reports are textbook damage control.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:36 PM, texifornia said:

He got hired and announced and then after a week, right when his mentor got a new job, he leaves. Those reports are textbook damage control.

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Yeah there is no reason to believe those 'reports' at all if they are even swirling. He was well regarded at Akron and then spend some tutoring under his mentor, arguably the best current offensive mind in football, at Bama..  there is no fucking way Ark St wouldn't want him unless they discovered some massive red flag we are unaware of. 

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:35 PM, canadianhorn21 said:

It's been reported Milwee isn't a big recruiting guy as well. Just a thought.

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He wasn't recruiting because he was an analyst what the fuck are we even doing at this point suggesting our QB coach isn't going on the road

 

"Hey Quinn Ewers, you know the guy who would be working with you on a daily basis? He would love to be here to see you but can't because he's not allowed to recruit off-campus"

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:31 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Only reason this crossed my mind too is I know Riley is his own QB coach, so it’s not unheard of.

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The one slight possibility I see is: Millwee thinks he can do better than Butch Jones and Arkansas State. Considering some of the other moves he's made in his career, he's a guy who looks at the long game and not the short term fix. That is the only reason I can see him following Sark for another year as an analyst. He's waiting patiently for the right opportunity.

With that said, he's probably the QB coach. But it would be huge for Texas if he's an analyst and Sark coaches the QBs in order to free up another staff spot.

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Maybe Gideon is coaching nickel backs with Arnett or Quinn coaching linebackers? 

QB- Milwee

RB-Drayton

OC/OL- Flood

TE- Banks or ????

WR- Wiggins or ???
 

DL- Davis

DC/LB- Arnett or Quinn

CB- Raymond

S- Joseph

NB- Gideon

its either that or I need to give up my Raymond dream already 

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  On 1/9/2021 at 4:57 PM, nycHorn said:

TFB:

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Saban strikes back. Of course. 

Interesting Quinn update though. Seems like he'll stay in the NFL. With Arnett getting looks at Oregon and LSU, options are dwindling fast

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:12 PM, Handcruser said:

What I get out of all this talk of Bama coaches coming to Texas is this:

Saban wants Sark to be very successful very quickly. That’s my gut feeling.

By all accounts Wiggins and flood have done a great job there. Golding appears to have done fine and is young and still learning. Banks a potential possibility and not immediately shut down by Saban?

Just a thought.

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Saban’s going to do everything in his power to keep Sark from taking any other Bama coaches with him. I actually just recently watched the HBO special about Saban and Belichick, and there was a segment where they both discussed having assistant coaches leave to take head coaching jobs. Saban said something along the lines of “I’m all for helping my guys develop as coaches and then move on to other things, but I have a real problem when those coaches think they can just take other pieces of our program with them. I’m not ok with that.”

That doesn’t necessarily mean Sark won’t get any of the Bama coaches that have been mentioned, but I do fully expect Saban to derail as many of those as he can.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:55 PM, TexasPride10 said:

Saban’s going to do everything in his power to keep Sark from taking any other Bama coaches with him. I actually just recently watched the HBO special about Saban and Belichick, and there was a segment where they both discussed having assistant coaches leave to take head coaching jobs. Saban said something along the lines of “I’m all for helping my guys develop as coaches and then move on to other things, but I have a real problem when those coaches think they can just take other pieces of our program with them. I’m not ok with that.”

That doesn’t necessarily mean Sark won’t get any of the Bama coaches that have been mentioned, but I do fully expect Saban to derail as many of those as he can.

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Sark brought Flood and maybe Wiggins with him so I see that a little different but yeah I don't think Saban would be cool with defensive coaches or Banks following (unless he's firing them)

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:52 PM, RGBIII said:

Maybe Gideon is coaching nickel backs with Arnett or Quinn coaching linebackers? 

QB- Milwee

RB-Drayton

OC/OL- Flood

TE- Banks or ????

WR- Wiggins or ???
 

DL- Davis

DC/LB- Arnett or Quinn

CB- Raymond

S- Joseph

NB- Gideon

its either that or I need to give up my Raymond dream already 

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Arnett is a LB coach by trade I believe so he would definitely handle that unit. He also probably doesn't need two DL coaches in his system. Its a flex 3-3-5 that he does change up week to week but I'd think having  Davis - DL, Arnett - LB, Joseph - Safeties / Passing D Cord, ??? - CBs (pls be Raymond) and then Gideon as ST / helper with LBs and nickels would make a ton of sense. Adequately covers the secondary and still lets you go get a rainmaker at TE.

 

edit: Oh, I would just as happily take Ansley as Co-DC (non-primary) coaching CBs if that report about him wanting out at Fake-UT is true. Raymond would be the sexy hire but Ansley is very damn good himself assuming we are confident he's clean of their scandal. 

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The TFB "update" seems out of date as it still believes Freeman to LSU is a thing.  I feel confident our next DC will be one of Muschamp (preferred), Arnett (not bring Jason Washington - I will permit myself to believe that nightmare scenario) or Golding.  I'll be happy with any of them.

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Saban will see coaches leaving for promotions as good job good effort and making it that much easier to hire new guys with ambition. He will not accept losing coaches to lateral moves for money reasons.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:02 PM, 6th Street said:

Saban foisting this Golding scrub on Sark is just like when Meyer pushed Beck to Herman

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Beck was not a great OC, but probably the best position coach and recruiter on Herman's staff. And he was up for the Broyles award this year so...

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:52 PM, RGBIII said:

Maybe Gideon is coaching nickel backs with Arnett or Quinn coaching linebackers? 

QB- Milwee

RB-Drayton

OC/OL- Flood

TE- Banks or ????

WR- Wiggins or ???
 

DL- Davis

DC/LB- Arnett or Quinn

CB- Raymond

S- Joseph

NB- Gideon

its either that or I need to give up my Raymond dream already 

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Definitely makes sense with Arnett. I don't think Quinn has ever coached LBs though so I'm not sure what would happen in that case. If Quinn split DL with Davis, you'd then have to pick 2 of CB, LB, TE which isn't ideal

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:31 PM, closetohumping said:
You think Bo hand picked Lorenzo joe and Jake McMillan?  Doubtful.  But even if that were true I’m sure sark will not task him to recruit wideouts and offensive lineman

For what it’s worth, 247sports shows Davis and Giles as the primary recruiters for Jake.

I know it’s way off topic, but it still chaps my ass all these years later. Jake McMillon was a 6’3" 225pound defensive lineman from west Texas that had never played on the offensive side of the ball in his entire life before coming to Austin. Every single person involved in moving him to OL should be taken out back and beaten with a water hose.
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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:55 PM, TexasPride10 said:

Saban’s going to do everything in his power to keep Sark from taking any other Bama coaches with him. I actually just recently watched the HBO special about Saban and Belichick, and there was a segment where they both discussed having assistant coaches leave to take head coaching jobs. Saban said something along the lines of “I’m all for helping my guys develop as coaches and then move on to other things, but I have a real problem when those coaches think they can just take other pieces of our program with them. I’m not ok with that.”

That doesn’t necessarily mean Sark won’t get any of the Bama coaches that have been mentioned, but I do fully expect Saban to derail as many of those as he can.

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So which coaches did Sark bring with him if any to Alabama? I say all those coaches are fair game.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 6:46 PM, Kurt Bowels said:

The one slight possibility I see is: Millwee thinks he can do better than Butch Jones and Arkansas State. Considering some of the other moves he's made in his career, he's a guy who looks at the long game and not the short term fix. That is the only reason I can see him following Sark for another year as an analyst. He's waiting patiently for the right opportunity.

With that said, he's probably the QB coach. But it would be huge for Texas if he's an analyst and Sark coaches the QBs in order to free up another staff spot.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 5:58 PM, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I know we are supposed to be happy with the Bo Davis hire and Saban loves him, but I just strolled down memory lane on his all time recruits and started getting PTSD: Alex Norman, Paul Boyette, Jake McMillon, Terrel Cuney, Lorenzo Joe, and Chevoski Collins. I hope to hell this staff can evaluate. It's the one thing that Herman's crew actually did consistently well. 

https://247sports.com/Coach/Bo-Davis-271/AllTimeRecruits/

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But you did see the first 3 right.

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  On 1/9/2021 at 7:33 PM, Chuckie Finster said:

I really, really, really think it’s Golding.

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That is a Tim Beck type fuck up. I rather keep Ash. When a program that is constantly is in the playoffs is trying to get rid of someone that means they are perceived to be insufficiently good by those top level programs. How can that be good for us? Ash left because he got a job and was not let go by such a top quality program.

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