Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread

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7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

You don’t go from offering the OU WR coach $1MM to keeping Coleman in 48 hours.

You do on Surly, sir. 

[Nicole44 22,060]

15 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

There's zero chance Sark has a blank check for assistant hires, and has in turn demonstrated that he is swinging for the fences on his hires, but despite that has even a fleeting thought of keeping Coleman in anything but an off-the-field role. I would say stop being overreactive and regarded over the "lack of specificity" in a post by Jeff fucking Howe who knows less most 9.95er's (in a year where it's clear that's a lower bar than normal), but surl gonna surl. 

The fact that I “out-scooped” all of them last Friday is proof of this. Lulz. Me. Beat. Them. This alone should be a reason to read everything with a cautious eye. Not that there aren’t some good nuggets of intel. Just read everything with a cautious mindset. 

 I just wanted to say, for everyone to have some faith in what is being done. I know people have their favorites and obviously some of those won’t be on the staff—but Sark has put together a good group so far. We won’t know until the damn season starts but there is a lot to be optimistic about. Jmo.
 

Also it’s snowing! Holy shit! That’s awesome! 

Edited January 10, 2021 by Nicole44

[TexasToast 728]

7 minutes ago, texifornia said:

This guy hasn't had really good vanilla ice cream 

[trythisathome 971]

7 minutes ago, Wayne said:

More from Howe

Sunday update (10:45 a.m.): We’ve checked in with multiple sources late in the week and throughout the weekend as it relates to Zach Arnett. While we’re not eliminating him as a potential defensive coordinator candidate based on what we heard in the days after Sarkisian’s hiring, we don’t believe the situation is such that Arnett-to-Texas is anywhere close to a foregone conclusion. In fact, we’ve yet to confirm the interest is anything more than just that — interest, in that Arnett is a name to watch but there appear to be other candidates higher above him in the pecking order.

This is one of the emptiest, most stereotypical $9.95er updates I've seen in a while. 

[markstanco 12,577]

This guy hasn't had really good vanilla ice cream 

Like blue bell?

[fellside 1,114]

Ash looked good year one.  Orlando looked good year one.  Bedford looked good year one.  Diaz looked good year one.  

Then the Big 12 adjusts and we end up hating all of them.

At this point I'm okay hiring a new one whenever possible.  

[Getafix 28,674]

Lulz.

 

 

 

 

 

[Nicole44 22,060]

14 minutes ago, texifornia said:

This guy hasn't had really good vanilla ice cream 

Amy’s Mexican Vanilla. Yum. 

[Getafix 28,674]

6 minutes ago, TexasToast said:

 

 

Like the lick;  love the post-lick look.

 

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

13 minutes ago, Wayne said:

More from Howe

Sunday update (10:45 a.m.): We’ve checked in with multiple sources late in the week and throughout the weekend as it relates to Zach Arnett. While we’re not eliminating him as a potential defensive coordinator candidate based on what we heard in the days after Sarkisian’s hiring, we don’t believe the situation is such that Arnett-to-Texas is anywhere close to a foregone conclusion. In fact, we’ve yet to confirm the interest is anything more than just that — interest, in that Arnett is a name to watch but there appear to be other candidates higher above him in the pecking order.

So even more conflicting bullshit between the clueless insiders. Yesterday it was all "If we can't get Quinn, Arnett is the clear number 2 guy!" and well we sure as fuck are not getting Quinn. 

 

The way you know this is bullshit is because even if you Do want Golding over Arnett you are probably still in the very least sending Arnett exploratory dick picks right now and hedging your bets. Chances are too high that Golding will change his mind, or Satan will somehow find a way to fuck us 

[Gut Wagon 8,080]

9 minutes ago, markstanco said:

20 minutes ago, texifornia said:

This guy hasn't had really good vanilla ice cream 

Like blue bell?

Listeria is not a flavor. At least, not one to use for marketing.

[ClubWhatever 12,144]

17 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The fact that I “out-scooped” all of them last Friday is proof of this. Lulz. Me. Beat. Them. This alone should be a reason to read everything with a cautious eye. Not that there aren’t some good nuggets of intel. Just read everything with a cautious mindset. 

 I just wanted to say, for everyone to have some faith in what is being done. I know people have their favorites and obviously some of those won’t be on the staff—but Sark has put together a good group so far. We won’t know until the damn season starts but there is a lot to be optimistic about. Jmo.
 

Also it’s snowing! Holy shit! That’s awesome! 

Does your panhandle peep want his money back yet?

[Longhornlove 4,831]

23 minutes ago, Wayne said:

More from Howe

Sunday update (10:45 a.m.): We’ve checked in with multiple sources late in the week and throughout the weekend as it relates to Zach Arnett. While we’re not eliminating him as a potential defensive coordinator candidate based on what we heard in the days after Sarkisian’s hiring, we don’t believe the situation is such that Arnett-to-Texas is anywhere close to a foregone conclusion. In fact, we’ve yet to confirm the interest is anything more than just that — interest, in that Arnett is a name to watch but there appear to be other candidates higher above him in the pecking order.

So interest is just interest...............interesting.

[Nicole44 22,060]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

Does your panhandle peep want his money back yet?

He wanted Tom gone. Obviously, UM was the guy for him. He, like me, is cautiously optimistic. I have hope. Not going to say I wasn’t bummed initially. Because I was. I am starting to feel more  hopeful. So far, I haven’t had any real complaints with the staff being assembled. 

[Dbeasy 15,066]

I look forward to a DC being named that has been on no 9.95r or surly list. 

[HenryJames 66,082]

26 minutes ago, TexasToast said:

That’s soft serve.

[Burt Macklin 19,026]

2 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

I am in the Ash camp after Odom and Boom were gone. We have seen him make adjustments after OCs expose a weakness. Many of the guys we have hated never seemed to adjust to being exposed. From what I read Golding does not know how to adjust to spread and Arnett we don't know if he will or will not be stubborn with his system. The BIG 12 will expose you that is why year 1 is always good and year 2 not so much.

Lol please name one adjustment Ash made after a weakness was exposed. 

1 hour ago, Fud said:

With the caveat that rankings might be a little wonky this year with conferences mostly only playing intra-conference games, some conferences having a limited amount of games, and covid ravaged game-day rosters, Ash's 2020 Texas defense was ranked 40th in FEI. Not sure where it was in SP+, but I'm sure it was somewhere in that ballpark. 

Is that where you think a good DC should have Texas with the amount of talented fielded this season, adjusted for opponent? 

How do you think our talent compared to Mississippi State's this year? They finished 42nd in FEI

The only thing I’ll say in Ash’s defense is that the defense got much better after the first few weeks and probably performed in the 20s from there on out, but I agree we can do better. Ash’s defense especially would take a huge step back without Ossai’s pass rush. He’s reliant on getting pressure with 4, and everything starts to fall apart if he can’t. 

46 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

I consider that one of the examples of him being exposed. I don't remember that then happening again. I could be wrong but that is what I mean by adjusting. Had that been Orlando we would have seen it over and over again in subsequent games.

Nope. It happened over and over and he never did anything about it. 

20 minutes ago, Getafix said:

Lulz.

 

 

 

 

 

JFC Jeff. How are you that dumb? Coleman will not be one of the 10 assistants. 

[cdain3 3,454]

Shes too gentle with it.

[victory88 5,668]

At this point, it’s pretty obvious it’s going to be Goulding.  He’s close to Bo Davis.  Davis is the guy that recommended him to Saban.  He probably knows he’s on his way out at Bama.  If Davis is the D-line coach, probably because Goulding is the DC.  Is this what it’s looking like right now? 

DC- Goulding 

DL- Davis

LB- Huztler or unknown at this point.

DB:  Joeseph/Gideon.

If this is what we end up with, I’ll give it a B- and be over underwhelmed after CDC saying he’s excited about the staff.  We need a heavy hitter recruiter like Lupoi or Raymond on defense.  

[Machinator 32,099]

Just now, victory88 said:

At this point, it’s pretty obvious it’s going to be Goulding.  He’s close to Bo Davis.  Davis is the guy that recommended him to Saban.  He probably knows he’s on his way out at Bama.  If Davis is the D-line coach, probably because Goulding is the DC.  Is this what it’s looking like right now? 

DC- Goulding 

DL- Davis

LB- Huztler or unknown at this point.

DB:  Joeseph/Gideon.

If this is what we end up with, I’ll give it a B- and be over underwhelmed after CDC saying he’s excited about the staff.  We need a heavy hitter recruiter like Lupoi or Raymond on defense.  

If it's Golding I would expect him to take LBs as well.

[Burt Macklin 19,026]

Just now, victory88 said:

At this point, it’s pretty obvious it’s going to be Goulding.  He’s close to Bo Davis.  Davis is the guy that recommended him to Saban.  He probably knows he’s on his way out at Bama.  If Davis is the D-line coach, probably because Goulding is the DC.  Is this what it’s looking like right now? 

DC- Goulding 

DL- Davis

LB- Huztler or unknown at this point.

DB:  Joeseph/Gideon.

If this is what we end up with, I’ll give it a B- and be over underwhelmed after CDC saying he’s excited about the staff.  We need a heavy hitter recruiter like Lupoi or Raymond on defense.  

Goulding coaches LBs so no Hutzler at LB. maybe someone else as the second DB coach. 

[Daichee Bell 2,925]

the OG. 

Edited January 10, 2021 by Daichee Bell

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1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

Goulding coaches LBs so no Hutzler at LB. maybe someone else as the second DB coach. 

Still on the Raymond dream. Let him coach CB, Joseph S and Gideon NB/ST

[victory88 5,668]

Just now, RGBIII said:

Still on the Raymond dream. Let him coach CB, Joseph S and Gideon NB/ST

That would be a solid group.  Gideon can be special teams coach and still help coach defense as well in a more general sense.  Not sure what type of recruiter Goulding is. After seeing Orlando fuck up the LB room, we need someone that can evaluate and recruit there

[CastHorn 813]

6 minutes ago, victory88 said:

At this point, it’s pretty obvious it’s going to be Goulding.  He’s close to Bo Davis.  Davis is the guy that recommended him to Saban.  He probably knows he’s on his way out at Bama.  If Davis is the D-line coach, probably because Goulding is the DC.  Is this what it’s looking like right now? 

DC- Goulding 

DL- Davis

LB- Huztler or unknown at this point.

DB:  Joeseph/Gideon.

If this is what we end up with, I’ll give it a B- and be over underwhelmed after CDC saying he’s excited about the staff.  We need a heavy hitter recruiter like Lupoi or Raymond on defense.  

That would be as close to a Championship staff as we’ve had here in a long time. You’d be pressed to find better around the country. If Sark can come out guns blazing, I think we’ll fine.

Edited January 10, 2021 by CastHorn

[Butch Had Not 2,980]

4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I look forward to a DC being named that has been on no 9.95r or surly list. 

My unknowns that nobody has mentioned are:

Brad white Kentucky 

Pete Alphabet U Washington 

Just so when it happens I can gloat. 

[Burt Macklin 19,026]

2 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Still on the Raymond dream. Let him coach CB, Joseph S and Gideon NB/ST

The numbers don’t add up. You can’t have 6 on D because we have 5 assistants on O. 

[Tigersnake 670]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

Why do you guys love recalling these memories?

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Modessit said:

Didn't see it posted:

She's probably the most worthless of anyone working on the various pay sites. And that's saying something.

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18 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I look forward to a DC being named that has been on no 9.95r or surly list. 

This is my expectation and I’m going to be disappointed if it turns out otherwise. 

[Butch Had Not 2,980]

2 minutes ago, GeoffE said:

She's probably the most worthless of anyone working on the various pay sites. And that's saying something.

Eh she has nice cans. One redeeming quality. 

[LTtxfan 49,229]

15 minutes ago, victory88 said:

At this point, it’s pretty obvious it’s going to be Goulding.  

 

Goulding??   Really??

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[Fud 9,552]

13 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Goulding coaches LBs so no Hutzler at LB. maybe someone else as the second DB coach. 

Golding also can coach DBs

[Hiphopopotamos 20,875]

15 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Goulding coaches LBs so no Hutzler at LB. maybe someone else as the second DB coach. 

He coached DB/Safeties before he got to Alabama. Also - Alabama DB coach Karl Scott is a Golding guy who worked with him at Southeastern and Tusculum before being hired to be a part of Golding’s staff at Alabama. If Golding is the hire and is bringing a coach with him - I’d expect it to be Scott. 

[GeoffE 37]

3 minutes ago, Butch Had Not said:

Eh she has nice cans. One redeeming quality. 

Those can be found anywhere online. And better ones at that.

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2 minutes ago, GeoffE said:

Those can be found anywhere online. And better ones at that.

[GeoffE 37]

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19 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

The numbers don’t add up. You can’t have 6 on D because we have 5 assistants on O. 

DC/LB, DL, CB, S, NB in this scenario

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15 minutes ago, GeoffE said:

She's probably the most worthless of anyone working on the various pay sites. And that's saying something.

Completely agree.  No awareness, no insight, just nothing.  I don’t get it.

[Cajun 11,714]

4 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

It is a fairly well accepted theory that Saban isn't an easy man to work for.

It amazes me that people are not aware of this.  

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[RGBIII 22,840]

[Fud 9,552]

17 minutes ago, GeoffE said:

She's probably the most worthless of anyone working on the various pay sites. And that's saying something.

She stays abreast with what's happening 

[ClubWhatever 12,144]

Texas: the dumping ground for Alabama coaches who almost stood in the way of a 13-0 SEC championship season.  

[Schulz2.0 28,960]

30 minutes ago, cdain3 said:

Shes too gentle with it.

She's just mashing it now.

[cochamps 1,879]

1 hour ago, Landomatic said:

Explain.  You got something against vanilla ice cream?

No.  He is the one who obviously has something against vanilla ice cream.  I am a fan of the delicacy - if done properly.

[HtownHorn 14,698]

If it is Golding, I do think he will bring Scott with him to coach CBs. Scott was hired from Texas Tech to Bama. Interesting, how Saban identifies coaching talent when everyone on Surly would have lost their shit had Texas hired Scott to replace Washington 3 years ago.

[Tigersnake 670]

3 minutes ago, Fud said:

She stays abreast with what's happening 

Yeah, don't knocker. I'll show myself out.

[Tex-19 2,872]

D Staff could end up being:

DC/LB - Golding/Arnett/other

DL - Davis

S - Joseph

CB - TBD

ST and extra help with secondary and LBs - Gideon

That would still leave room for the full staff on Offense. Same numbers as this year except we had 2 DL coaches instead of a Gideon role. 

 

Financially we have plenty of room left to chase a rainmaker. Not hiring a real OC saves a ton of money. Total guesses for salaries so far:

Flood - $1mm

Drayton - $650k

Milwee - $350k

Gideon - $500k

Davis - $750k

Joseph - $700k

If these are ballpark correct, that's ~$3.9mm for over half the staff. Obviously DC is a big one but Golding/Arnett would probably only be like $1.5mm putting you at $5.4mm. If our budget is really as big as we think, that's a lot of money left for WR, TE, and CB.

[Nicole44 22,060]

7 minutes ago, cochamps said:

No.  He is the one who obviously has something against vanilla ice cream.  I am a fan of the delicacy - if done properly.

Ice cream! So is the predominant fear that we get Golding and Saban hires Muschamp? And Saban is only letting Golding go because Saban believes he can do better?