Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread

[JOSEYWALES66 1801]

Just now, texifornia said:

That staff does not suck at all

Nope.  Tee Martin and Justin Wilcox were home run hires.

 

[ztejas 43418]

2 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Question 2 would be:

How would you stop Riley in the 2nd Half?

Question 3: 

Are you absolutely sure you can stop Riley?

Q4: if you CAN'T stop Riley, can you outscore him?

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

So is Nansen worth looking at?

 

DC/OLB - K

DL - Davis

ILB - Nansen

S - Gideon

CB/N - Joseph?

[dcar00 14178]

3 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

As a reminder, his 1998 staff:

OC - Greg Davis
OL - Tim Nunez
RB - Bruce Chambers
TE - Tim Brewster
WR - Daryl Drake
DC - Carl Reese
DE - Hardy McCrary
DB - Everett Withers
ST - Mike Tolleson
 

Staff was the same in 1999, if I recall correctly; Oscar Giles and Tom Herman were added as GA.

 

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I remember excitement over Reese because LSU’s defense was good. 

yep Reese was the big get 20 years as a DC before coming to Texas.  Chambers was from Carter HS.   I think Tolleson was a big get for DL.  He lasted until 2010

[Tex Pete 20339]

6 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Especially if the trombone player is a little rusty.

Big problem here is that a lot of the parrots didn't play football at all, and a dude who was third chair Meat Whistle doesn't really get it. The vast majority of football coaches really aren't that bright. 

[Getafix 28592]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Q4: if you CAN'T stop Riley, can you outscore him?

 

Q5:  If you were an animal, what animal would you be?

 

Only wrong answer:  

 

[closetohumping 17438]

7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I remember excitement over Reese because LSU’s defense was good. 

Dude you are a buzzkill.   Can you change your name to puto del muerto?

[Vertigo 20276]

11 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

I was on the boards and I don't really remember. Message boards were relatively new at the time and there weren't nearly as many of them. And there weren't $9.95 boards like there are now. We had a lot less in-depth info on position coaches than we do now. I thought Mack himself was a good hire, he was my choice from the start, and I was deeply opposed to Gary Barnett and Tyrone Willingham.

I do remember skepticism about Greg Davis because his resume didn't reflect much success, but we were excited for change after the up and down Mackovic years, particularly post-UCLA Rout 66.

I was walking on campus and picked up a copy of the daily Texan with the 3 coaching finalists on it. I saw Mack and thought "Man that would be amazing but I doubt he would come here." When he was hired I was super pumped. This is the first time I have had similar peter tingles about a hire since then. I hope it means we get a long tenured and successful run by Sark, his staff certainly suggests that. 

[B00M 6414]

7 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Nope.  Tee Martin and Justin Wilcox were home run hires.

 

So what went wrong at USC on game days? 

[Newy25 7668]

I’m starting to drink the Kool Aid. I said I would wait to reserve judgement based on the staff he hires and this staff is so far better than I expected. Sark is not fucking around. 

[Huckleberry 32851]

20 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I wasn't on the message boards in the 90s. What did people think of Mack Brown's initial staff hires at the time?

The biggest dustup was a shouting match between @HenryJamesand @closetojumpingabout whether it would be Madden or Davis who would be more responsible for the inevitable championship success. Happened at a happy hour. Obviously ctj was on Davis's side. 

Almost came to blows but fortunately HJ was able to outrun ctj.

[Pato del Muerto 52488]

1 minute ago, B00M said:

So what went wrong at USC on game days? 

Well first there was the whole 65 scholarships issue. And then the drunk head coach issue. 

[Tex Pete 20339]

8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

 

yep Reese was the big get 20 years as a DC before coming to Texas. 

And he was fresh off LSU's 1997 win over Steve Spurrier's Florida Gators. LSU held the Gators to 21 points after giving up 56 points to them the year before. That was unthinkable to me at the time.

[Burt Macklin 19020]

32 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I wasn't on the message boards in the 90s. What did people think of Mack Brown's initial staff hires at the time?

@closetojumping was feverishly cursing the name of every single employee in the athletic department, which he copied with pen and paper from the directory sitting in Belmont, because we didn't hire Gary Barnett over Mack. He'd periodically stop to go take a smoke break and listen to @SydneyCarton praise how boss the ingenious hire of Greg Davis as OC, while he tried to act casual with his back foot leaned against his used sparkly purple Acura as girls walked by.  Meanwhile @HenryJames was busy downing Miller High Lifes and praising Taco Bell as the pinnacle of Mexican food, just like Bruce Chambers was the best high school coach in the state of Texas and his hiring would pay dividends for decades to come.

Edited January 19, 2021 by Burt Macklin
Dammit Huck you beat me to it.

[Newy25 7668]

1 minute ago, B00M said:

So what went wrong at USC on game days? 

It probably had something to do with Pete Carroll leaving the program a smouldering pile of NCAA ruins. I’m just guessing here. 

[Burt Macklin 19020]

13 minutes ago, texifornia said:

That staff does not suck at all

Sark's last two DC hires are Justin Wilcox and Kwiatkowski.  Consider me very gruntled.

[Pato del Muerto 52488]

6 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Dude you are a buzzkill.   Can you change your name to puto del muerto?

[Vertigo 20276]

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

The biggest dustup was a shouting match between @HenryJamesand @closetojumpingabout whether it would be Madden or Davis who would be more responsible for the inevitable championship success. Happened at a happy hour. Obviously ctj was on Davis's side. 

Almost came to blows but fortunately HJ was able to outrun ctj.

Impossible. I have it on good authority that CTJ would beat everyone but Michael Huff in an on campus foot race. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 4739]

I too was skeptical of the Sark hire, primarily given his performance at UW and USC, but this hiring process has been very impressive. The Coach K, Flood, Banks and Bo Davis hires are all homeruns on paper. Drayton had to be retained because of Bijan, and he obviously has a great resume even if his recruiting has been suspect. The Gideon/Joseph combo is an odd fit, and certainly Raymond (if he truly was attainable) would have been the preferred pairing. But we'll see.  Not gruntled by Coleman.  

[jdhorn92 1545]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

The club is the Idaho Club. I'm not a huge golfer but since we aren't there all the time, I thought it would be smart to be in a gated community. Plus, houses in golf communities seem to maintain their value. There is an ex-OL coach who spent some time on this board evaluating 2021 Texas targets who lives in Coeur d’Alene.

Yes I’m familiar with it. If I remember correctly, I played it 20-25 years ago, it was a muni then and there weren’t any homes. The “ club house” was a small structure. My uncle worked as the starter before things blew up and Nicklaus got involved. I think I have that right. 
 

hoping to be able to make a trip there this may-June. When I bring the family , we try and stay at Seasons, on the Lake, right in town. 

[Newy25 7668]

20 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

The biggest dustup was a shouting match between @HenryJamesand @closetojumpingabout whether it would be Madden or Davis who would be more responsible for the inevitable championship success. Happened at a happy hour. Obviously ctj was on Davis's side. 

Almost came to blows but fortunately HJ was able to outrun ctj.

I wonder how many near fist fights I got into while at college when I would point out that Madden more closely resembled Cartman as “Beefcake” than a strong, fit person. It felt like I was taking crazy pills when I would see this fat, tub of lard chant “Big Dawgs in da House who who” around the players while his man tits jiggled I was a sophomore in college and didn’t know shit about fuck when it came to football but it was still that obvious to me.  Reese was the Muschamp of his day so everyone was pumped about that hire. And he did miracles in the first three years. That 1997 Texas defense could not stop some area high schools from scoring. And I’m talking about the JV teams. 

Edited January 19, 2021 by Newy25

[RGBIII 22840]

2 hours ago, Bevo14 said:

For some reason there are 247 posters dying for Giles to be retained. That place is fuckin weird.

They are without a doubt the worst posters on any 995er site bar none (not that I have experience on that star crunch slit Ketchs website). There is some dude on that website named Tyrone Swoopes who is the most insufferable human being I have ever seen and I am on that website maybe 15 minutes a week

[RGBIII 22840]

5 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Impossible. I have it on good authority that CTJ would beat everyone but Michael Huff in an on campus foot race. 

Only if Huff was in his lambo

[Ignatius 4017]

25 minutes ago, Bigbend1812 said:

I just remember the excitement about Mack.  Back then it was, what are assistant coaches? 

IIRC there was a lot made of the fact that Mack’s staff had something like (sure this number is wrong) 105 years of head coaching experience....

[EZ$ 2104]

1 hour ago, MoJames said:

Killer Katrin is who I've been using.

Holy Moley

[Burt Macklin 19020]

41 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Strong ties

I'm not sure if Nansen is a good enough coach of LBs, but the idea of him and PK creating a polynesian pipeline anywhere near what UW has would be very exciting.

[closetohumping 17438]

13 minutes ago, B00M said:

So what went wrong at USC on game days? 

Everything.  But cdc and the bmd olds were lazy and only vetted his record on wiki.    Sark changed his coaching record there.   The cabal thinks they’re getting someone who won four national titles at usc

[Newy25 7668]

2 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

They are without a doubt the worst posters on any 995er site bar none (not that I have experience on that star crunch slit Ketchs website). There is some dude on that website named Tyrone Swoopes who is the most insufferable human being I have ever seen and I am on that website maybe 15 minutes a week

If we are talking about purely football posting and not the Cloak Room, echeese is by far the most insufferable poster I have ever seen on a Texas board. Please tell me this person is not worse? 

[EverywhereMan 50]

Had to step away from this thread today... I assume we now know what is and isn't a fajita and its origin?

Let me catch u..... oh my god.

 

[SA-KC_Horn 1295]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

Nope. One slot open. 

Correct. That open slot is permanently reserved for South Austin's mom.

[Ignatius 4017]

14 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

And he was fresh off LSU's 1997 win over Steve Spurrier's Florida Gators. LSU held the Gators to 21 points after giving up 56 points to them the year before. That was unthinkable to me at the time.

That’s the only game I’ve ever attended in BR (fuck you Covid) and it was epic. Really hope we make that one up, but doesn’t seem likely anytime soon given our upcoming OOC schedule...

[mwaadeeb 1210]

3 hours ago, CHIEF said:

Well, he is off today and tomorrow, and we will already know by Thursday. 

CHIEF

Dude I’m building a house an hour from Bandon. Had no idea how badass   it was. Gonna have to get my game back the the Lost Creek CC to Dry Creek saloon says.  

[RGBIII 22840]

1 minute ago, Newy25 said:

If we are talking about purely football posting and not the Cloak Room, echeese is by far the most insufferable poster I have ever seen on a Texas board. Please tell me this person is not worse? 

I have not and will not ever click on the cloak room so I cant compare but he is awful, basically take your drunkest most politically ignorant uncle, give him a ten red bulls and a bag of colombian bam bam and inject straight burnt orange heroin into his veins....truly awful

[Tex Pete 20339]

13 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Impossible. I have it on good authority that CTJ would beat everyone but Michael Huff in an on campus foot race. 

[Herbie Hancock 7345]

while his man tits giggled.

Fuck you for placing the mental image in my head of Mad Dog having laughing tits. Goddamnit

[UncleSonny 6572]

26 minutes ago, texifornia said:

That staff does not suck at all

Yeah, it was a pretty damn good staff at the time and most of those guys have been on an upward career trajectory since. Just pointing out that his process looks to be different this time around. 

Either way, I think you can look at that list as a pretty positive indicator of Sark's ability to identify coaching talent and maybe ease some of the handwringing over the hires that the board is less enthused with (Coleman, Joseph, Gideon).

[Newy25 7668]

3 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

 

 

Fuck you for placing the mental image in my head of Mad Dog having laughing tits. Goddamnit

 

 

 

 

[OnAComputer 1405]

9 hours ago, Bevo14 said:

They clearly have an in with poleassassin, probably through @OnAComputer

My source is her monkey. Please, don't tell anyone.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

13 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

If we are talking about purely football posting and not the Cloak Room, echeese is by far the most insufferable poster I have ever seen on a Texas board. Please tell me this person is not worse? 

Some years ago echeese apparently googled the various types of logical fallacies.  And he would use them to label posts he was arguing against.  Never correctly or in proper context.  He is a certified idiot but lacks any self-awareness.

Edited January 19, 2021 by Johnny Sack

[cochamps 1879]

25 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

And he was fresh off LSU's 1997 win over Steve Spurrier's Florida Gators. LSU held the Gators to 21 points after giving up 56 points to them the year before. That was unthinkable to me at the time.

Yep, he was the flavor of the week after years of mediocrity.  JMO at the time  And now.

[CHIEF 5079]

19 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Dude I’m building a house an hour from Bandon. Had no idea how badass   it was. Gonna have to get my game back the the Lost Creek CC to Dry Creek saloon says.  

Luke is the kid's name. Both parents are Texas grads and his sister is a sophomore at UT. He bleeds burnt orange but Texas Southern was his only D1 offer. Deadly short game. If he is within 120 yards of the pin, he is two strokes out. If you go to Bandon, look him up.

CHIEF

[Hank Chinaski 6314]

24 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

If we are talking about purely football posting and not the Cloak Room, echeese is by far the most insufferable poster I have ever seen on a Texas board. Please tell me this person is not worse? 

Ugh, yeah, that dude sucked. That dipshit would argue with you even if you were agreeing with him. I hadn't thought about him since my comped OB account expired 12 years ago or whatever. 

[dcar00 14178]

32 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

IIRC there was a lot made of the fact that Mack’s staff had something like (sure this number is wrong) 105 years of head coaching experience....

I think he was fudging whatever number he came up with by using Asst HC and High School Head Coach when counting years of experience.  was harder to check the bullshit with no googles back then.

[closetojumping 62596]

33 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

@closetojumping was feverishly cursing the name of every single employee in the athletic department, which he copied with pen and paper from the directory sitting in Belmont, because we didn't hire Gary Barnett over Mack. He'd periodically stop to go take a smoke break and listen to @SydneyCarton praise how boss the ingenious hire of Greg Davis as OC, while he tried to act casual with his back foot leaned against his used sparkly purple Acura as girls walked by.  Meanwhile @HenryJames was busy downing Miller High Lifes and praising Taco Bell as the pinnacle of Mexican food, just like Bruce Chambers was the best high school coach in the state of Texas and his hiring would pay dividends for decades to come.

True story: When @SydneyCarton was hired at the start-up where I met him, the dude was a feverish fanboy of Teh Major and would attempt to shout anyone down for even the mildest consideration that, maybe, Simms was better in some phase or facet of the game. It was a precursor to today's general social media and current events discussions, so he was a pioneer.

Also, he was an ardent sycophant of none other than a one Geoff Ketchum. Several of us had to coax him, gently because he's almost a wild animal, into perusing Hornfans and eventually weening off of fatfuck's site. It took years to help him cope with that addiction.

29 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Impossible. I have it on good authority that CTJ would beat everyone but Michael Huff in an on campus foot race. 

The Surly Sprint-off is being held the day we play ULaLa, provided we can all attend. We need to crowdsource a pot for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and dead last. I'll take 1st and you fuckers can sort out how to rationalize the rest. I timed myself yesterday in the 40 and I'm pretty, pretttaaaayyyy sure I saw a non-wind-aided 4.54 pop up on the ol'stopwatch. Still got it, folks.

[B00M 6414]

35 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Everything.  But cdc and the bmd olds were lazy and only vetted his record on wiki.    Sark changed his coaching record there.   The cabal thinks they’re getting someone who won four national titles at usc

You call someone a buzzkill and then post this shit? Member when you bet me $100 Herman would still be coaching here right now and then you ignored me the 2 times I called you out? I member... And Got damn son, how many spaces do you need after a period? 

[closetohumping 17438]

9 minutes ago, B00M said:

You call someone a buzzkill and then post this shit? Member when you bet me $100 Herman would still be coaching here right now and then you ignored me the 2 times I called you out? I member... And Got damn son, how many spaces do you need after a period? 

Ignored you?  Reference the post, I'll pay up.  I really don't remember.  Next time you have an issue, instead of calling someone out, private message them though.  I'm not gonna rememver what I posted on page 943 of the Urban Meyer thread. It's 100.00.  Just show me the post and I'll gladly pay.

 

Salty over 100.00?  Come on, if you need it that bad, message me.

Edited January 19, 2021 by closetohumping

[dcar00 14178]

4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

The Surly Sprint-off is being held the day we play ULaLa, provided we can all attend. We need to crowdsource a pot for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and dead last. I'll take 1st and you fuckers can sort out how to rationalize the rest. I timed myself yesterday in the 40 and I'm pretty, pretttaaaayyyy sure I saw a non-wind-aided 4.54 pop up on the ol'stopwatch. Still got it, folks.

christ, given the magnitude of the surface area a potential wind aided could be in sub 4.3 Neon Deion territory.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

10 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The Surly Sprint-off is being held the day we play ULaLa, provided we can all attend. We need to crowdsource a pot for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and dead last. I'll take 1st and you fuckers can sort out how to rationalize the rest. I timed myself yesterday in the 40 and I'm pretty, pretttaaaayyyy sure I saw a non-wind-aided 4.54 pop up on the ol'stopwatch. Still got it, folks

I’ll take 2nd to last because I’m pretty sure I pulled a hamstring at the thought of sprinting. However, I’m certain I’d still beat some fat fuck on here who claims to have been a world-class sprinter in high school.

[Napoleon 8667]

3 hours ago, Modessit said:

BTW - shouldn't the defensive motto be "All Brakes, No Gas"?

“All Brakes, No Pass”

[Spawn of Cthulhu 2241]

53 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

If we are talking about purely football posting and not the Cloak Room, echeese is by far the most insufferable poster I have ever seen on a Texas board. Please tell me this person is not worse? 

Texas Taps on Hornfans would like to throw his hat in the ring.