Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread

[CHIEF 5082]

6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Jeremy Pruitt?

Not really a character flaw. Just a guy that got caught playing by SEC rules with not enough clout to sweep it under the rug. Just got too big for his britches.

Hitler's only good idea was the autobahn with no speed limits. Not even sure it was his idea. Doesn't excuse everything else.

CHIEF

[Tex Pete 20351]

30 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

So now they’re rational human beings? They think coach K is a joke.

You’re being obtuse. There is no rationalization for hiring Mike Stoops. 

[USNALonghorn 5078]

33 minutes ago, blacklab said:

This is the worst hire in the last 10 years.

 

[Hank_Hill 18804]

4 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

I apologize for the neg I gave you, been drinking a bit and my sarcasm meter was out of whack.

never mind.  You doubled down.

Still not wrong. Pos rep

[Teryor 4471]

2 minutes ago, NTVTXN said:

This is the type of stuff we should be doing, but I would tag Overshown/the other LBs on there as well, make sure they are aware and let them do what they can, one of the only acceptable ways to tweet at players

[USMCHorn 1369]

1 minute ago, NTVTXN said:

Imagine spending all your political capital on Mike fucking Stoops. Sark pulled a Herman like move with this hire. 

[Hank_Hill 18804]

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

You’re being obtuse. There is no rationalization for hiring Mike Stoops. 

There’s a difference between rationalizing this hire and absolutely losing it.

[CowtownHorn 5126]

Just as I was trying to get this image out of my head...he hires Mike Fucking Stoops...

Edited January 22, 2021 by CowtownHorn

[Tex Pete 20351]

17 minutes ago, satyanash said:

For what it's worth, I don't think Stoops' WIkipedia page is correct. There are press releases from 2017 naming him as "Defensive Coordinator/Outside Linebackers' Coach/Assistant Head Coach"

So at least it's been more recent since 1991.

And at the 2018 Texas-OU game, Mike Stoops was listed as OU’s DC, but I am positive that wasn’t the case at the end of the game. 

[PassiveAggressiveCoach 118]

1 minute ago, CHIEF said:

Not really a character flaw. Just a guy that got caught playing by SEC rules with not enough clout to sweep it under the rug. Just got too big for his britches.

Hitler's only good idea was the autobahn with no speed limits. Not even sure it was his idea. Doesn't excuse everything else.

4 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

 

 

 

Hi

[CHIEF 5082]

Just now, Teryor said:

This is the type of stuff we should be doing, but I would tag Overshown/the other LBs on there as well, make sure they are aware and let them do what they can, one of the only acceptable ways to tweet at players

No, unless you want to stir up a hornet's nest. CDC, and Sark are the one's that need to see it. Do you think they knew about this tweet? Or follow this dude? Political leanings are big on Surly, but I doubt they come into question in coaching circles. I doubt "who did you vote for?" comes up in an interview.

CHIEF

[Voluminous Banality 1032]

Maybe this is Saban's way of getting revenge for Flood and Banks.

Saban: "Steve, you should really consider Mike. He's one of the best coaches I've ever had the pleasure of working with."

Sark: "Then why didn't you give him a real coaching position instead of a four foot cubicle and the grunt jobs none of the other interns wanted?"

Saban: "Steve? Steve? Signals a bit choppy. I gotta go. Breaking down film on Southern Miss. Make sure you don't let Mike get away. Let's do a brunch soon."

[clapclapclap 9000]

Stoops, there it is!

[CHIEF 5082]

1 minute ago, Voluminous Banality said:

Maybe this is Saban's way of getting revenge for Flood and Banks.

Saban: "Steve, you should really consider Mike. He's one of the best coaches I've ever had the pleasure of working with."

Sark: "Then why didn't you give him a real coaching position instead of a four foot cubicle and the grunt jobs none of the other interns wanted?"

Saban: "Steve? Steve? Signals a bit choppy. I gotta go. Breaking down film on Southern Miss. Make sure you don't let Mike get away. Let's do a brunch soon."

Steve, you can have Flood and Banks, but you gotta take Mike, or we will counter and keep them. Your move.

CHIEF

[Hmbre97 6308]

 

[OU Still Sucks 37]

Fuck. 

[Rimbo 25924]

28 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

I am slowly coming to the belief that Saban has divine intervention from God to win National Championships. It is a byproduct of what he is really doing. His real calling is ridding great coaches of their self-destructive behavior, and setting them back on the path to doing what they were meant to do, their passion, coaching football. Has Mike Stoops been rehabilitated? Probably. Do I want him on the coaching staff? Fuck no. But, who has been on the Saban Wagon, and gone on to embarrass themselves afterward? 

I guess this what happens when you go from anger, denial, rationalization, back to anger, denial, rationalization. Just a vicious cycle......and bourbon.

CHIEF

[Hammerhead 257]

We almost had it. We were almost there. One more hire. One more fucking hire. 
 

it was fucking inevitable. I shoulda known better. Fuck this shit. 

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1501]

I would rather have Scott Derry teach guys to mug on every play

[Don Hornleone 530]

[Cuernavaca 254]

Hold on.

Pissed off sobered up Mike stoops may be an asset. What a world.

 

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

I wasn't following things as closely during the infamous "I'll drag my feet so I can slip in Watson" debacle but this has to be worse, right? I mean the initial reports all said Mike Stoops and we never once were credibly linked to an ILB name otherwise until the past few days. Seemed clear from the jump we were never keeping Hutzler, too. So if you accept that Stoops was always the name you have to look at the timing of this as being abhorrently cowardly. Like he waits till after all the Zoom calls where he knew parents, former players, BMDs, etc would all absolutely fucking destroy him for the Stoops hire and then tries to drop it in at the 11th hour. 

 

Cowardly, dickless move. Even if you disagree about how bad a Mike Stoops hire might be the way it came about like this, waiting and waiting to sneak it in, is fucking pathetic. 

Edited January 22, 2021 by HateYouAndMyself

[Rhinotx 499]

3 minutes ago, Cuernavaca said:

Hold on.

Pissed off sobered up Mike stoops may be an asset. What a world.

 

Is Sark his sponsor?

[CHIEF 5082]

5 minutes ago, Cuernavaca said:

Hold on.

Pissed off sobered up Mike stoops may be an asset. What a world.

 

CHIEF

[campcrunk 2452]

Trading Hutzler for Stoops is every bit as much an abject failure as the Watson and Warehime hires. I don't give a flying fuck what his last name is. You had one of the best and brightest young coaches in the country under contract and you let him go to make room for a universally detested, complete asshole who hasn't coached LBs in three decades. Not to mention his substance abuse shit and the fact that everyone who's ever come into contact with him despises him. Oh, and he's an utter disaster as a coach, too. There is absolutely no way to justify this hire. There's still OU shit all over his Twitter account, for fuck's sake.

Unbelievably tone deaf and idiotic hire. It's like Sarkisian is writing a case study on how to build up a whole bunch of good will and then burn through it in a matter of minutes.

[Cuernavaca 254]

5 minutes ago, Rhinotx said:

Is Sark his sponsor?

I doubt Saban tolerates drunks even in the analyst role. If Sark is a dead-eyed killer like we hope he is, he is trying to gather as much intelligence on OU as he can get.

Edited January 22, 2021 by Cuernavaca
Purp

[CHIEF 5082]

12 minutes ago, Rhinotx said:

Is Sark his sponsor?

It's plausible. If so, he just needs to come out and say it. Would a great coach jeopardize his career to keep up with his pledge? I dunno. But he might risk loosing some goodwill to keep that person sober. It's priorities in life. Maybe he values Mike's sobriety as much as his career and money. If Steve just came clean it would probably be forgiven with a contrite speech from Mike. The only way to possibly smooth this over would be Mike admitting he was a dick, and that he has changed for the better.

CHIEF

Edited January 22, 2021 by CHIEF

[Tex Pete 20351]

4 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

I wasn't following things as closely during the infamous "I'll drag my feet so I can slip in Watson" debacle but this has to be worse, right? I mean the initial reports all said Mike Stoops and we never once were credibly linked to an ILB name otherwise until the past few days. Seemed clear from the jump we were never keeping Hutzler, too. So if you accept that Stoops was always the name you have to look at the timing of this as being abhorrently cowardly. Like he waits till after all the Zoom calls where he knew parents, former players, BMDs, etc would all absolutely fucking destroy him for the Stoops hire and then tries to drop it in at the 11th hour. 

 

Cowardly, dickless move. Even if you disagree about how bad a Mike Stoops hire might be the way it came about like this, waiting and waiting to sneak it in, is fucking pathetic. 

It is worse. Not from a coaching ability standpoint,  but this is an obvious teabagging of our fan base. And if Sarkisian can’t see that, he’s back on the sauce for sure. Unacceptable fucking move. 

[Tex Pete 20351]

1 minute ago, Cuernavaca said:

I doubt Saban tolerates drunks even in the analyst role. If Sark is a dead-eyed killer like we hope he is trying to gather as much intelligence on OU as he can get.

Not a chance. Retaining Jay Boulware would be much less harmful. 

[clapclapclap 9000]

4 minutes ago, campcrunk said:

Unbelievably tone deaf and idiotic hire. It's like Sarkisian is writing a case study on how to build up a whole bunch of good will and then burn through it in a matter of minutes.

Trust the plan?

[Hank_Hill 18804]

4 minutes ago, campcrunk said:

Trading Hutzler for Stoops is every bit as much an abject failure as the Watson and Warehime hires. I don't give a flying fuck what his last name is. You had one of the best and brightest young coaches in the country under contract and you let him go to make room for a universally detested, complete asshole who hasn't coached LBs in three decades. Not to mention his substance abuse shit and the fact that everyone who's ever come into contact with him despises him. Oh, and he's an utter disaster as a coach, too. There is absolutely no way to justify this hire. There's still OU shit all over his Twitter account, for fuck's sake.

Unbelievably tone deaf and idiotic hire. It's like Sarkisian is writing a case study on how to build up a whole bunch of good will and then burn through it in a matter of minutes.

Yeah you do, and that’s ok

[Hank_Hill 18804]

3 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

It is worse. Not from a coaching ability standpoint,  but this is an obvious teabagging of our fan base. And if Sarkisian can’t see that, he’s back on the sauce for sure. Unacceptable fucking move. 

There it is.

[DanTheHorn 4922]

[campcrunk 2452]

3 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Yeah you do, and that’s ok

Ignoring everything related to Mike Stoops and OU (which would be absurd, but we'll pretend for a moment anyway), this is an absolutely horrible hire. He's despised by almost everyone he's ever coached or coached with, he has more skeletons in his closet that Jeffrey Dahmer, and he's total dog shit as a coach. I would be incredibly pissed even if he wasn't a Stoops.

[Tex Pete 20351]

4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

There it is.

The job entails more than just coaching players on what to do. And the guy hasn’t even coached LBs in decades. This is terrible. 

[Hook1997 5354]

They hired a ex HC and ex DC for some really good teams as a LB’s coach...   It’s not the ideal hire but I don’t think the sky is falling like many are portraying it to be.  Pete K will be handling things pretty hands on with LB I’m pretty sure also.  Many OU players had good things to say about him so I don’t know where the all his players hated him is coming from? 

Edited January 22, 2021 by Hook1997

[Ricky Butler 2715]

15 minutes ago, campcrunk said:

Trading Hutzler for Stoops is every bit as much an abject failure as the Watson and Warehime hires.

Dude. I don't like the hire one bit, but the offense a coach chooses to run is the most important thing in football.

[Pato del Muerto 52492]

I think I’m past the anger phase now. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hank_Hill 18804]

If only we’d had Hutzler last year we might’ve won 10 games

[Hank_Hill 18804]

Again, I don’t think Stoops is a good hire by any means. But y’all are absolutely showing vag.

[fattyflattie 4639]

What an incredibly stupid fucking hill to die on.  Terrible takes over and over. 

[Mdhorn 5949]

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

If only we’d had Hutzler last year we might’ve won 10 games

He didn't get much of an offseason to work with linebackers--they were mostly learning in real game situations.  

[ausjala 101]

2 hours ago, satyanash said:

"Logic", lol. You realize Stoops is a defensive backs coach by background, right? He never coached LBs even when he was a position coach at K-State.

This hire makes no sense.

yes, but he had pictures

[ausjala 101]

But what I really don't understand is why Sark is hiring position coaches for the defense when he hasn't hired a DC yet. Wouldn't you want input from your DC?

[Mdhorn 5949]

This is a huge wart on Sark's decision making--wtf worthy both on and off the field.  Seems like if he were worth a damn, Mike was there for the taking. Here's to hoping he's working for minimum wage.

[Tex Pete 20351]

Just now, ausjala said:

But what I really don't understand is why Sark is hiring position coaches for the defense when he hasn't hired a DC yet. Wouldn't you want input from your DC?

I mean, you might want to catch up on the latest news. 

[Hank_Hill 18804]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

What an incredibly stupid fucking hill to die on.  Terrible takes over and over. 

I bet we have more wins with Mike fucking Stoops as our LB coach than with any other in the last 8 years. Because it matters that little with the staff we’ve put together.

[CHIEF 5082]

1 minute ago, ausjala said:

But what I really don't understand is why Sark is hiring position coaches for the defense when he hasn't hired a DC yet. Wouldn't you want input from your DC?

What? Pete Kwaitkowski is our DC, and a quite good one, I might add.

CHIEF

[TexasEx 1667]

Y’all act like 6 weeks ago we weren’t floating Bob “Stoops is Poops” as a head coaching candidate. Let’s fuck around and find out if Mike Stoops is up to the challenge of being our goddamn linebacker’s coach under a top 5 DC. He’s also a graduate of the nick saban coaching rehabilitation school of dominance. Worst case, he flames out this year and we 86 him. Best case, he helps us buttfuck Riley out of Norman and into the nfl. 

[Tex Pete 20351]

Just now, Hank_Hill said:

I bet we have more wins with Mike fucking Stoops as our LB coach than with any other in the last 8 years. Because it matters that little with the staff we’ve put together.

Would you shut the fuck up? There is no defending this hire, yet you keep on with completely irrelevant “rationale.” We could have hired junior high coaches with better reasoning.