Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread

[TXpride 533]

3 hours ago, KYHorn said:

Look, I'll give the new coach the benefit of the doubt, but I hope he's changed since this:

He's changed, but not necessarily for the better:

As Barkley would say, dude needs to "come home."

[tomahawk dunk 321]

5 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

What kinda haircut is that?

an unfortunate one.

[Valmy77 13103]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Sark will be fired in 3/4 years. He’s garbage. Enjoy another decade of shit 

I will do my best. Rooting for shitty teams is generally what I do.

But this should be a bonanza for you. You know exactly how this is going to go so you should be able to make a fortune betting against Texas.

[Gigglebush 107]

Can we retain some guys? Its really hard to imagine a staff that isn't a vast downgrade from Chris Ash/Yurcich. Both are elite. People are really rumoring us hiring Sumlin and Mike Stoops? Thompson and Bijan understand the offense and are good enough have this team setup for a conference run. The only thing that could have fucked it up was starting over after a 3 loss season.

[TexasRenegade 2391]

Paging @immamac can you ask the idiots who can't read the thread title to take their batching about the hire to another one of a multitude of threads and at least attempt to keep this thread on staff discussions....

[mdmost 42866]

Who you calling a batch?

[Gigglebush 107]

2 hours ago, RollLeft said:

An unstoppable machine that personally picked and entrusted Sark with its players and offense to continue that NFL tradition.

Mike Locksley was better than Sark at Bama.

[BoomerSooner2578 217]

2 minutes ago, Gigglebush said:

Mike Locksley was better than Sark at Bama.

*sigh*

No one has done better than Sark at 'Bama than your next HC.

[Js1 85132]

34 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

45 minutes ago, BoomerSooner2578 said:

My post #295 is no different than this post. I don't understand the difference RE: reaction.

Hey. Go fuck yourself.

Ah yes, the good ole #8

[Gigglebush 107]

3 minutes ago, BoomerSooner2578 said:

*sigh*

No one has done better than Sark at 'Bama than your next HC.

You're right. They went from averaging 522 yards per game with Locksley to 535 with Sark. Hes a fucking genius.

[BoomerSooner2578 217]

31 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

don't overthink it Meth mouth. 

I've lived in Boulder for 13+ years, I don't live in OK.

 

 

 

 

 

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[PassiveAggressiveCoach 118]

11 minutes ago, Gigglebush said:

Can we retain some guys? Its really hard to imagine a staff that isn't a vast downgrade from Chris Ash/Yurcich. Both are elite. People are really rumoring us hiring Sumlin and Mike Stoops? Thompson and Bijan understand the offense and are good enough have this team setup for a conference run. The only thing that could have fucked it up was starting over after a 3 loss season.

I understand they may be good coaches but the whole you gotta keep someone else's coaches is very weird to me. 

[Vertigo 20267]

16 minutes ago, TXpride said:

He's changed, but not necessarily for the better:

As Barkley would say, dude needs to "come home."

The faux hawk where it meets in the middle

 

[Hmbre97 6297]

3 hours ago, KYHorn said:

Look, I'll give the new coach the benefit of the doubt, but I hope he's changed since this:

[HtownHorn 14491]

I find it hilarious everyone wanting to keep Ash, when those same people were shitting all over his hire a year ago. Let Sark pick whoever the fuck he wants, because he's not bringing his G5 boys with him.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

5 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

The faux hawk where it meets in the middle

That’s a faux faux hawk.

[closetohumping 17406]

17 minutes ago, Gigglebush said:

Mike Locksley was better than Sark at Bama.

Actually the last two seasons has been Bama's highest ppg in the SAban era

[CHIEF 5072]

22 minutes ago, TXpride said:

He's changed, but not necessarily for the better:

As Barkley would say, dude needs to "come home."

You can't tell me that a guy with that hairline, at that age, doesn't have a massive chip on his shoulder. Could be a regular "rolling ball of butcher knives".

CHIEF

[SaucyJack 3487]

31 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

What kinda haircut is that?

[General Specific 3235]

His primary source of protein is dingleberries.

Don’t forget, he sucks the cream filling out of the dicks before his brother bob eats them.

[Ricky Butler 2662]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

I started the Fire Herman thread when 80% were still white knighting that douchebag. Eat a dick. 

LOL. I don't know about Sark, but you bragging about that is hilarious. You BAMF!

[TexasRenegade 2391]

48 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Well he doesn't really qualify as media soo...

My apologies it was apparently Golden crying in his writeup about CDC lying to "this paper".

[stork642 4498]

28 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Who you calling a batch?

Batch please.  

[Dr. Teeth 5832]

41 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

What kinda haircut is that?

Flock of receding seagulls. 

[DanTheHorn 4902]

18 minutes ago, PassiveAggressiveCoach said:

I understand they may be good coaches but the whole you gotta keep someone else's coaches is very weird to me. 

It is not to Urban and he says it has been key to his success by maintaining some continuity.

[Truck Norris 88]

35 minutes ago, TXpride said:

He's changed, but not necessarily for the better:

As Barkley would say, dude needs to "come home."

He appears to be a fan of the, “just fuck my shit up, fam!”

[Ricky Butler 2662]

15 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

I find it hilarious everyone wanting to keep Ash, when those same people were shitting all over his hire a year ago. Let Sark pick whoever the fuck he wants, because he's not bringing his G5 boys with him.

Agree. Ash did a great job, but there are a lot of coaches out there.

[blacklab 11851]

Lets get this back on topic.

If you want to talk about other shit not related to the topic post somewhere else.

 

[Valmy77 13103]

So since Sark is going to be busy with the national title game, I guess we will not be hearing much about the staff until next week.

I presume he at least tells the guys he is going to let go to get their resumes ready. As we hear about that we can start to piece together what it might look like.

[DanTheHorn 4902]

Sark needs to hire a good to great staff and he cannot repeat the Charlie and Herman mistakes. When Charlie hired Watson I believe I posted he had put the first nail in the coffin before game one. Todd Orlando was a huge mistake in my view and it cost me negs. So I am laying down my marker again. Sarkisian needs to keep some staff for continuity. Probably Ash and staff plus Drayton just due to Bijan. Had Charlie kept Applewhite he may have learned some of what it took to maneuver in Texas.

[Llewelyn Moss 203]

1 minute ago, DanTheHorn said:

Sark needs to hire a good to great staff and he cannot repeat the Charlie and Herman mistakes. When Charlie hired Watson I believe I posted he had put the first nail in the coffin before game one. Todd Orlando was a huge mistake in my view and it cost me negs. So I am laying down my marker again. Sarkisian needs to keep some staff for continuity. Probably Ash and staff plus Drayton just due to Bijan. Had Charlie kept Applewhite he may have learned some of what it took to maneuver in Texas.

He’s gotta go beyond his Rolodex, to quote Scipio. CDC himself already said he’s excited about who Sark will bring with him, but as long as it’s not just his homies or people he happens to know then I think the odds of success go up. The benefit of working with Saban is you get to see what good looks like: good players, good personnel, good organizational systems. Comfort hires = bad. Non-comfort hires may be bad, too, of course—but not automatically bad like bringing dudes because you know them rather than because they can transfer their skills to Texas. 

[Truck Norris 88]

37 minutes ago, Llewelyn Moss said:

He’s gotta go beyond his Rolodex, to quote Scipio. CDC himself already said he’s excited about who Sark will bring with him, but as long as it’s not just his homies or people he happens to know then I think the odds of success go up. The benefit of working with Saban is you get to see what good looks like: good players, good personnel, good organizational systems. Comfort hires = bad. Non-comfort hires may be bad, too, of course—but not automatically bad like bringing dudes because you know them rather than because they can transfer their skills to Texas. 

What Saban has isn’t something you get insight to by just being around him. He’s been doing mob shit in college football for almost 20 years with plenty of people to observer yet no perfect emulators. Shit, Muschamp who is being mentioned as a DC for Sark was with him almost 20 years ago and still hasn’t had it click. Saban is able to see something in assistants to know if they can contribute to a championship. I’m just not so sure any of his assistants will ever actually gaze something from him that will be the difference in them becoming a championship winning head coach. 

[Kurt Bowels 213]

1 hour ago, TXpride said:

He's changed, but not necessarily for the better:

As Barkley would say, dude needs to "come home."

Nicole, u wanna MFM? 

[CowtownHorn 5126]

7 minutes ago, Truck Norris said:

What Saban has isn’t something you get insight to by just being around him. He’s been doing mob shit in college football for almost 20 years with plenty of people to observer yet no perfect emulators. Shit, Muschamp who is being mentioned as a DC for Sark was with him almost 20 years ago and still hasn’t had it click. Saban is able to see something in assistants to know if they can contribute to a championship. I’m just not so sure any of his assistants will ever actually gaze something from him that will be the difference in them becoming a championship winning head coach. 

[Truck Norris 88]

2 minutes ago, CowtownHorn said:

Sark has it or he doesn’t. Finding a worthy head coach is a bitch! I don’t think it’s that hard to tell with guys on defense, so to keep things on topic, would be thrilled with Muschamp, but Ash definitely has the same look in his eyes you love to see from a DC. Either way I’m thrilled if it’s one of them. 

[Kurt Bowels 213]

3 hours ago, Coach pop a bitch said:

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

What kinda haircut is that?

Mayor of Munchkinland?

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by ImissWallyPryor

[Bama Chick 28596]

Mike Locksley was better than Sark at Bama.

[gmr548 16519]

I understand they may be good coaches but the whole you gotta keep someone else's coaches is very weird to me. 

The whole seeing the defense under Ash and thinking “what this unit needs is Mike Stoops” thing is very weird to me.

[BurntOrange&White 39677]

I hope he poaches Georgia’s S&C coach 

Edited January 3, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[Texasrocks 2124]

Any word on who he wants as his S&C coach? That's probably the most immediate concern followed by recruiting coordinator. If nothing else, hopefully he's seen the admin infrastructure Saban has in place and brings in a shit ton of support staff.

[ClubWhatever 12087]

41 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

My concern regarding his hires are that any top notch assistant may have the same concerns we do, Sarks ability to stay sober. Leaving a stable place like Bama or other program for this situation may not be as appealing as we want to believe. I hope he can pull off some A+ hires but won’t be a bit surprised if we are underwhelmed.

I think this is a valid concern to some extent and may be a show stopper for some guys.  However I think most coaches go into these jobs knowing they will be there a short time regardless.  And coaching at Texas is still seen as something good to put on your bio.  Even Herman was able to get a pretty decent reboot staff with all the noise surrounding him.   Top of market money and 3 year deals should get him the staff he needs to do well.   

[kevwun 15662]

For coordinators, there will always be someone like Ash or Muschamp who failed at being a head coach.  Then  there's assistants looking for a job after their head coach got fired.  It's the willingness to hire good coaches you don't personally know that is important.  They will come for the money.

Edited January 3, 2021 by kevwun

[BurntOrange&White 39677]

1 hour ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

My concern regarding his hires are that any top notch assistant may have the same concerns we do, Sarks ability to stay sober. Leaving a stable place like Bama or other program for this situation may not be as appealing as we want to believe. I hope he can pull off some A+ hires but won’t be a bit surprised if we are underwhelmed.

 

13 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

I think this is a valid concern to some extent and may be a show stopper for some guys.  However I think most coaches go into these jobs knowing they will be there a short time regardless.  And coaching at Texas is still seen as something good to put on your bio.  Even Herman was able to get a pretty decent reboot staff with all the noise surrounding him.   Top of market money and 3 year deals should get him the staff he needs to do well.   

I feel like there is absolutely no way his first staff will be as bad as Strong or Herman’s. 

[TexasRenegade 2391]

4 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

So, I just listened to his press conference.  And while overall I found him likable and thought he said the right things, this line stuck with me as I thought I remembered him being the OC at USC during those years when they had Joe McKnight and like 5 other 5 star RBs that all split carries.

And he was.  And in both 2007 and 2008, USC didn’t have a 1,000 yard rusher. They ran the ball fine with a bunch of different guys, but that’s not what he said.  

For him to make that specific claim and clearly have it teed up as his canned answer - and for it to actually be completely false - is not the most encouraging thing in the world.   Not as bad as Herman melting down on the Houston radio show or hiring Casey Horny, but still a bit of an eyebrow raiser for me to be honest.  

1. Take that discussion. To a thread that isn't about staff hires.

[texifornia 56549]

8 hours ago, Llewelyn Moss said:

He’s gotta go beyond his Rolodex, to quote Scipio. CDC himself already said he’s excited about who Sark will bring with him, but as long as it’s not just his homies or people he happens to know then I think the odds of success go up. The benefit of working with Saban is you get to see what good looks like: good players, good personnel, good organizational systems. Comfort hires = bad. Non-comfort hires may be bad, too, of course—but not automatically bad like bringing dudes because you know them rather than because they can transfer their skills to Texas. 

One of the best things about Sark is that his rolodex is fucking stacked. Especially on offense. The most likely new blood in terms of working with him would be Drayton and Muschamp.

[Slacks 6791]

Will knows not of what he speaks. Get Giles the fuck off the 40

I keep hearing this, but our DL is good consistently, and improves each season. Giles and Ash are the only defensive coaches I'd want to keep.

[Machinator 32097]

Other than Stoops, most of the initial names floated pass the smell test.

Inevitably, some of the first and second choice guys will turn us down. What Sark does after that will tell us a lot about him.

[Newy25 7638]

Burton has an update that basically repeats what Gerry wrote yesterday about the staff. Nothing new. 
 

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Newy25

[South Austin 52159]

32 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

1. Take that discussion. To a thread that isn't about staff hires.

I read this in Christopher Walken’s voice.