Sark after dark COACHING STAFF thread

[Sal 1101]

I probably missed it a few pages back, but has there been any mention of who Sarkisian is targeting for strength and conditioning?

[Dijon Robinson 1511]

Just now, taybo20 said:

Well he doesn’t have piss charts

Regrettably

[BurntOrange&White 41675]

Valai sucks. Our cornerback play was bad this year even late in the season. 
 

if you have a chance to hire Raymond then you can Valai yesterday. 

Edited January 3, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[Newy25 7894]

1 minute ago, FloridaHorn said:

Buddy hires are okay when they are proven coaches. Herman’s and Strong’s were just buddies.

Tom Herman’s initial staff was a fucking joke that all of us openly laughed at from the beginning.  The early indications are that Sark is not trying to make that same mistake. 

[Pato del Muerto 53348]

19 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Gerry Hamilton:

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Inside Texas has learned that former Oklahoma defensive coordinator Mike Stoops, who is currently a defensive analyst for Alabama, is "unlikely" to join Steve Sarkisian at Texas.

"It doesn't look like that's going to happen," a source close to the situation said.

Stoops has been rumored to be a candidate to coach linebackers as well as Co-DC.

 

 

Everything’s coming up Milwee 

[USMCHorn 1369]

1 minute ago, Sal said:

I probably missed it a few pages back, but has there been any mention of who Sarkisian is targeting for strength and conditioning?

It's been completely silent on that front. Which is kinda weird.

[The Beast 585]

7 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Herman probably would have called him “the running back” or some stupid shit till he graduated. Sark seems to actually get it and think this staff will reflect that 

Conversation went like this....,,watch what Najee does to tOSU and that's you. 

[Dijon Robinson 1511]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Valai sucks. Our cornerback play was bad this year even late in the season. 
 

if you have a chance to hire Raymond then you can Valai yesterday. 

The prevailing wisdom last offseason was that Ash was taking over coaching duties for the entire secondary while Valai was brought on mostly for recruiting and as a locker room guy.

[Burt Macklin 19221]

11 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

With regard to Raymond.... are we okay with whatever his involvement was with the LSU mess? 

Yeah... I was pretty meh on this hire but if they land anywhere near the names that are being thrown out, then I'm all in. 

This job isn't as difficult as the last two clowns have made it out to be. Hire the best assistants you can find, recruit like a motherfucker and then profit.

The best thing that Sark has going for him though, is the talent on campus. Say what you will about Herman, but his staff did a nice job on talent evaluation and acquisition. They for sure didn't pull in the 4 and 5 star guys that they should have, but their secondary evals have been on point. We've all bemoaned our offensive line recruiting, especially this year, but what Sarkisian is inheriting on the OL is light years beyond what Strong or Herman started out with. And that doesn't even mention Bijan and a healthy quarterback room and a deep stable of guys on the DL and at DB.  Charlie's cake wasn't baked but this one looks like it's ready for the oven. No reason that we shouldn't hit the ground running.

Corey Raymond has been an elite position coach at LSU for almost a decade. LSU’s failures this year have nothing to do with him. 

4 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

The biggest issue with Strong and Herman (and even Mack initially) were buddy comfort hires from their current gig.

But are we OK with that here since Bama is the current gig? 

Hiring your buddies is fine if they’re also nationally elite coaches. It’s only a problem when they don’t deserve to be at any P5 school, let alone Texas. 

[taybo20 3008]

1 minute ago, LTtxfan said:

Food for thought...

Urban had success retaining the DC when he took over at both Utah and tOSU,  so it's not always best to get rid of everyone if they're good coaches like Whittingham and Fickell

Had enough of you telling me about urban honestly. You never listened to reason in the urban thread.

Regardless, I’m not saying that they should all be gone. Some may stay. My point is that the best option available should win out.

[westexhorn 2158]

5 minutes ago, Sal said:

I probably missed it a few pages back, but has there been any mention of who Sarkisian is targeting for strength and conditioning?

can any of you fucks ask the IT mods about this?  Kind of a big deal

[HenryJames 67129]

5 minutes ago, Sal said:

I probably missed it a few pages back, but has there been any mention of who Sarkisian is targeting for strength and conditioning?

Derka.

[bschoolprof 6339]

This thread moves too fast for me to keep up.  Is it a given that Ash is getting shitcanned?  I thought he did a pretty good job with the defense, but then again I'm benchmarking that against Tony Orlando.  

[Machinator 32102]

1 minute ago, bschoolprof said:

Is it a given that Ash is getting shitcanned? 

No.

[Machinator 32102]

1 minute ago, westexhorn said:

can any of you fucks ask the IT mods about this?  Kind of a big deal

They don't know.

[Longhornlove 5150]

Me reading this thread

[JOSEYWALES66 1850]

1 minute ago, bschoolprof said:

This thread moves too fast for me to keep up.  Is it a given that Ash is getting shitcanned?  I thought he did a pretty good job with the defense, but then again I'm benchmarking that against Tony Orlando.  

Undecided but it appears that Muschamp isn’t coming.  I think people are assuming it would be one of the two. 

[Yev Kassem 1078]

4 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

This thread moves too fast for me to keep up.  Is it a given that Ash is getting shitcanned?  I thought he did a pretty good job with the defense, but then again I'm benchmarking that against Tony Orlando.  

Edited January 3, 2021 by Yev Kassem

[Mo Horn 8933]

1 minute ago, bschoolprof said:

This thread moves too fast for me to keep up.  Is it a given that Ash is getting shitcanned?  I thought he did a pretty good job with the defense, but then again I'm benchmarking that against Tony Orlando.  

I think Ash stays. No reason not to keep him if yoy can't get someone like Muschamp

[Pato del Muerto 53348]

Is moffitt still at LSU?  If LSU is really a free for all, we should inquire. 

[Gut Wagon 8214]

3 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

This thread moves too fast for me to keep up.  Is it a given that Ash is getting shitcanned?  I thought he did a pretty good job with the defense, but then again I'm benchmarking that against Tony Orlando.  

It's the dawn of a new day.

[Skyline 325]

15 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

The biggest issue with Strong and Herman (and even Mack initially) were buddy comfort hires from their current gig.

But are we OK with that here since Bama is the current gig? 

A badass coaching staff is the real appeal of hiring Sark. His connections are to Carroll's tree and Saban's tree. That's as good as it gets in current cfb. If he keeps Ash then he's somewhat connected to the UM tree as well. 

[Michael Knight 13197]

3 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

IDK, but someone on 247 said he was originally off the table, but now back on according to TOS (assuming IT).

He's unlikely to have a job with the Falcons next year so hes available

[jdhorn92 1590]

17 minutes ago, FloridaHorn said:

Buddy hires are okay when they are proven coaches. Herman’s and Strong’s were just buddies.

Sark has better buddies.  Strong really didnt have many connections. Herman's were unproven and turned out to be very weak coaches, as compared to other power 5 programs of our caliber.

[Michael Knight 13197]

2 hours ago, Texas Flood said:

Would be a big pull. Have to imagine Bama would offer significant raises to avoid losing 3 coaches (and thereby players/recruits) to Sark.

If it’s just Flood joining, that’s still a win

Saban probably has a long line of consultants ready to take the job

[NTVTXN 1435]

1 hour ago, LebongJames said:

If Saban was close to retirement wouldn’t Sark just stay there?

If I’m Sark, (and I’m not FYI)...I’m open to making a shit ton of cash to live in one of the best cities in the nation and replacing a “legend” (in his own mind!) as opposed to guessing when St. Saban may or may not retire and having to follow up that LEGEND.  Ask Mike Shula how it fun it was taking over after Coach Stallings.

or Charlie taking over for FUPM

or what’s his face taking over for switzer...

 

[FloridaHorn 4867]

I am buying and freezing McRibs which will be bequeathed to our new bagmen to pass out to our most sought after recruits.

Edited January 3, 2021 by FloridaHorn

[NTVTXN 1435]

22 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

The biggest issue with Strong and Herman (and even Mack initially) were buddy comfort hires from their current gig.

But are we OK with that here since Bama is the current gig? 

You catch on quick 😉

[Brothahorn 10097]

 

 

[Michael Knight 13197]

1 hour ago, Hurtlocker said:

Well if Chip says it, it has to be true.

He did call the Sark hire 😁

[RabidM 2755]

11 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

 

 

Sign me up coach...

[RGBIII 23010]

27 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

He's unlikely to have a job with the Falcons next year so hes available

I know he’s a good coach but that dude should never leave the college game, his talents are wasted in the NFL IMO. Come drop some bags here in Austin 

[CfRhTxStBobcats 604]

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

https://247sports.com/Coach/Tosh-Lupoi-715/AllTimeRecruits/

Thomas Fletchers dad must have given Tosh a bag of money.

[Not a Sock 2362]

19 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

 

 

Fuck I am a sucker for that shit, now I am hyped the fuck up.

[Bevo 13831]

4 minutes ago, CfRhTxStBobcats said:

Thomas Fletchers dad must have given Tosh a bag of money.

That list was a whose who of top paid recruits.

[RGBIII 23010]

3 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

Fuck I am a sucker for that shit, now I am hyped the fuck up.

[Wulaw Horn 19563]

In for 1000

That was supposed to be post 1,000 but if Tosh be passing out bags I’m in to toss in $1000  

If we are going to do this sanctioned cheating thing I think Shaggy ought to pick a recruit every year to buy.  I feel like it would be worth it collectively to this board and within our means to give the next Waddle like 200k  

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Wulaw Horn

[Wishbone 4924]

53 minutes ago, NoName said:

Ifs ok to make some comfort/buddy hires, have to be comfortable...but to fill your entire staff w buddy hires is a problem.

It depends on what circle of “buddies” you run with. Sark runs with some pretty elite coaching buddies.

[Brothahorn 10097]

2 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

It depends on what circle of “buddies” you run with. Sark runs with some pretty elite coaching buddies.

Yep. Picking up chicks in the Motel 6 lobby is a lot different that pick up chicks in the JW lobby.

[RomaVicta 30509]

 

 

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A top 4 playoff Texas team will generate more hype and money than a bunch of pearl clutching alumni could ever hope to match in donations.

A post like the above from Not a Sock seems to be more about poster posturing than reality. It's not hopelessly idealistic or stupidly optimistic to not embrace outright, wholesale flushing of ethical standards. 

"I just want to win and I don't care how" will ruin this game for me. You have the NFL, leave college football alone. Sure, it's dirty, but that doesn't mean you have to just drown it in shit. If it makes you feel manlier than me to call anyone who disagrees with you a pearl clutcher...well, just fuck the hell off, bitch.

[Happy Gilmore 1004]

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Edited January 3, 2021 by Happy Gilmore
Wrong thread

[Sgt. Slaughter 2890]

8 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

In for 1000

That was supposed to be post 1,000 but if Tosh be passing out bags I’m in to toss in $1000  

If we are going to do this sanctioned cheating thing I think Shaggy ought to pick a recruit every year to buy.  I feel like it would be worth it collectively to this board and within our means to give the next Waddle like 200k  

 

I’ll donate my stimulus check to the Ewers cause.

[golfclap 6903]

Holman Wiggins would be a lazy hire and speaks to Sark not understanding the Texas job. No one that was with Fuente for 9 years should be considered. This would be the definition of a comfort hire. Couple him with keeping Drayton and you have a very underwhelming offensive staff with no elite teacher or recruiter in either the RB or WR spots. 

[6th Street 6655]

Sanjay Lal, WR coach from the Seahawks need to get a call. Look what he did for DK Metcalf.

[Texas Flood 1381]

5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

 

 

A post like the above from Not a Sock seems to be more about poster posturing than reality. It's not hopelessly idealistic or stupidly optimistic to not embrace outright, wholesale flushing of ethical standards. 

"I just want to win and I don't care how" will ruin this game for me. You have the NFL, leave college football alone. Sure, it's dirty, but that doesn't mean you have to just drown it in shit. If it makes you feel manlier than me to call anyone who disagrees with you a pearl clutcher...well, just fuck the hell off, bitch.

[Bevo 13831]

15 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

In for 1000

That was supposed to be post 1,000 but if Tosh be passing out bags I’m in to toss in $1000  

If we are going to do this sanctioned cheating thing I think Shaggy ought to pick a recruit every year to buy.  I feel like it would be worth it collectively to this board and within our means to give the next Waddle like 200k  

 

Damn, I think Bama only gave him $50K

[texifornia 58843]

14 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Holman Wiggins would be a lazy hire and speaks to Sark not understanding the Texas job. No one that was with Fuente for 9 years should be considered. This would be the definition of a comfort hire. Couple him with keeping Drayton and you have a very underwhelming offensive staff with no elite teacher or recruiter in either the RB or WR spots. 

I'm sure there are reasons he's underwhelming, but hiring the position coach for the first Heisman WR wince 1991 doesn't exactly seem like dumpster diving.

Edited January 3, 2021 by texifornia

[westexhorn 2158]

5 minutes ago, golfclap said:

Holman Wiggins would be a lazy hire and speaks to Sark not understanding the Texas job. No one that was with Fuente for 9 years should be considered. This would be the definition of a comfort hire. Couple him with keeping Drayton and you have a very underwhelming offensive staff with no elite teacher or recruiter in either the RB or WR spots. 

Holman Wiggins is not a good coach?

[Sgt. Slaughter 2890]

3 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Sanjay Lal, WR coach from the Seahawks need to get a call. Look what he did for DK Metcalf.

Sanjay is one of the most respected WR coach in the NFL, he’s not taking a college job.

Cowboys are assholes for letting him go.

[Bevo 13831]

11 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Yep. Picking up chicks in the Motel 6 lobby is a lot different that pick up chicks in the JW lobby.

He's not fucking his assistant coaches is he? If so, I would have an entirely different list of candidates and my job interviews would be of a different nature.