Official Coach Sark Thread of Dominance—haters back off

[BarthHollamew 251]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:19 PM, BevoAbyss said:

Points per game in the Sark era.

OFFENSE

2021: 35 points

2022: 35 points 

2023: 36 points 

2024: 35 points 

By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game. 

-- Regardless of whether the QB is Casey, Hudson, or Quinn for 3 years. 

Zero difference or improvement across 4 years. Seems like a concern.

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What has improved is the points allowed.

DEFENSE

2021: 29 points (5-7 record)

2022: 26 (8-5)

2023: 19 (12-2)

2024: 11 (11-2 so far)

That's fantastic improvement. 

The defense is why Texas won 12 games last year and has 11 this year.

Not Dr. Pepper Quinn or Sark's supposedly "elite" play calling. 

We have a 16-0 title winning defense saddled with an 8-5 offense. 

 

I love Sark, but to add to your stats, the trend shows that we can count on about 3-4 2nd half collapses per season.  We survived them the last two seasons for the most part.  

2021

OU:  led 38-20 at half. Lost 55-48

OkSt:  led 24-13 3rd qtr.  lost 32-24

BU:  led 21-10 3rd qtr. lost 31-24

2022

Tech:  Led 31-17 3rd qtr.  lost 37-34

OkSt: Led 31-17 at half. lost 41-34

KSU:  Led 31-10 at half.  won 34-27

2023

Hou:  led 21-0 2nd qtr.  won 31-24

KSU:  led 27-7 3rd qtr.  won 33-30

TCU:  led 26-6 at half.  won 29-26

2024

Vandy:  led 21-7,  squeaked by 27-24

Arky:  led 13-0.  Held on  20-10. 

Kentucky:  not quite, but almost made the list. 

aggie:  17-0 at half.  Tried to hand it to them.  17-7

UGA:  completed dominated for two quarters and had nothing to show for it 6-3 at half time. lost 22-19 (didn’t build a big enough cushion)

Edited Saturday at 02:33 PM by BarthHollamew

[Hook1997 5487]

47 minutes ago, BarthHollamew said:

I love Sark, but to add to your stats, the trend shows that we can count on about 3-4 2nd half collapses per season.  We survived them the last two seasons for the most part.  

2021

OU:  led 38-20 at half. Lost 55-48

OkSt:  led 24-13 3rd qtr.  lost 32-24

BU:  led 21-10 3rd qtr. lost 31-24

2022

Tech:  Led 31-17 3rd qtr.  lost 37-34

OkSt: Led 31-17 at half. lost 41-34

KSU:  Led 31-10 at half.  won 34-27

2023

Hou:  led 21-0 2nd qtr.  won 31-24

KSU:  led 27-7 3rd qtr.  won 33-30

TCU:  led 26-6 at half.  won 29-26

2024

Vandy:  led 21-7,  squeaked by 27-24

Arky:  led 13-0.  Held on  20-10. 

Kentucky:  not quite, but almost made the list. 

aggie:  17-0 at half.  Tried to hand it to them.  17-7

UGA:  completed dominated for two quarters and had nothing to show for it 6-3 at half time. lost 22-19 (didn’t build a big enough cushion)

Seems like we need better people up in the box analyzing what’s going on the first half.  Aren’t there people who go thru film during the game looking for adjustments to be made at half or is that just a NFL thing?  If not we need that bad.  

[BarthHollamew 251]

I think hunting the big play in 2nd halves instead of just moving the chains has hurt us some.  Seems like in a lot of those collapses, there were drives where we threw deep unsuccessfully on 1st and 2nd down.  Sark usually has a great initial game plan, but once teams adjust, it seems we have no counter in certain games.  Georgia moved the chains with their back-up qb, nothing flashy.  Did just enough.  Of course, they established their run game, which helped.  I’d like to see Sark use some wrinkles in the run game early in 2nd halves to break the will of opponents.  Almost happened against aggie until the stupid INT. 

[El Hornarino 377]

OFEI

2007 USC - 20

2008 USC - 9

2009 Washington - 35

2010 Washington - 51

2011 Washington - 16

2012 Washington - 72

2013 Washington - 17

2014 USC - 14

2015 USC - 18

2019 Alabama - 2

2020 Alabama - 1

2021 Texas - 35

2022 Texas - 17

2023 Texas - 19

2024 Texas - 19

[Scuba Saba 34]

It's QE's turn. That bothers me. It's no one's turn that is not productive. Both Sabin and Riley had their Rottler/Willams and Tua/Hurt moments and the only turn that counted was willing the game, not someone one's feelings.    

[AnotherLawyer 398]

22 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Ok, but let’s be real. Major Applewhite was much better than Chris Simms. Anybody could see it.

Okay, let’s. That wasn’t the fucking point.

[Had Enough 2109]

On 12/10/2024 at 1:21 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Our SOS in 2021 was a lot different than last year or this year. When you play extra games like we did in 2023 and this year it is usually against great competition. We faced 5 backup QB’s last year on defense. There are a billion other factors at play. 

Also, saying we have a 8-5 offense is about as kneejerk as one can get. We rank top 25-30 nationally in yards, points, 3rd down and almost every passing statistic. We aren’t 2020 bama but there is middle ground between that and an Alamo Bowl offense.

A lot different in what manner?  We played the following inn2021:

FEI in 2021.  We played #5, 7, 13, 14, 15 and 16.  We played 16 at a neutral site, 5 at home (think they came off a bye, 7 on the road (both teams off byes) then 14 (on the road at night).  That was 4 games in a row.   That’s brutal.  Any strength of schedule that doesn’t consider the timing and order of when games are played falls short.

 Lost to a terrible KU (117) team but that was Jaylon Daniels too.  If you only included his starts, they weren’t 117.  Then WVU (#62) on the road.

We beat #50 Louisiana by 20.  Their only loss.  We put up 70 on #47 Texas Tech.  Rice was 118, but we beat them 58-0.  Rushed for 427 and scored none in the 4th.  TCU was 79.

The defenses in 2021 included 2, 8, 17, 20 and 21.  Like 5 or 6 in the top 30 of TFLs.

The back end defenses were pretty poor but they were likely worsened by playing us.  We scored 58, 70, 32, and 56 against the bottom 4.  All of that in the first year of the system.

As for 2023, Ok State was #39 in FEI.  So at least worse than half of our 2021 opponents by 1 metric.  I’m assuming the backup QBs are Bean (made a good run an NFL roster, previously started), Wyoming guy (probably didn’t matter), Hoover (retained the role the next year), Morton (retained the role the next year).  Robertson (retained the role the next year).

If you want to introduce that, then you need to say that we missed the starter for MSU, UF (the 3rd guy), OU and A&M.  Michigan, ULM, Kentucky (OU/A&M) all benched their guy due to ineffectiveness.  Beck, Pavia, Green, McCown/Fowler-Nicosi are not Penix, Gabriel, Milroe, Howard, Becht/Hoover/Bean/Jt Daniels.  Even Slovis got to hang around the NFL a bit.

In 2021, you had KJ Jefferson, Duggan, Rattler/Williams, Shough, Sanders, Purdy, Howard, J Daniels, Bohannon.

Lots of factors in play for certain.  The truth is the defense has advanced more than the offense.  The relative strength of our opponents defenses rank from 45 to 29 so it hasn’t changed a ton.  Year 1 you’d expect more hiccups than year 4.

Also, the strength of our opponents offenses goes from 10th to 9th to 10th to 44th for 2021 thru 2024.

2024 - OFEI/ODA 31; DFEI/OOA 44

2023 - 36/10

2022 - 29/9

2021 - 45/10

 

There is a discussion to be had that the 2024 Texas season is the easiest in Sarks tenure.  It’s the crappiest slate of offenses we’ve faced with presumably the worst QB group.  I’d actually say easily the worst.  And the defenses we’ve faced are on par with the other 4 seasons.

i would think once we make this run that will change, but it is noteworthy based on where we stand today.  Those 2024 numbers are better based on the championship game with Georgia.

[Hank_Hill 19803]

5 hours ago, Scuba Saba said:

It's QE's turn. That bothers me. It's no one's turn that is not productive. Both Sabin and Riley had their Rottler/Willams and Tua/Hurt moments and the only turn that counted was willing the game, not someone one's feelings.    

This is strong stuff

[jimmyjazz 46990]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

This is strong stuff

AI?

[CTC2 2858]

11 hours ago, BarthHollamew said:

I think hunting the big play in 2nd halves instead of just moving the chains has hurt us some.  Seems like in a lot of those collapses, there were drives where we threw deep unsuccessfully on 1st and 2nd down.  Sark usually has a great initial game plan, but once teams adjust, it seems we have no counter in certain games.  Georgia moved the chains with their back-up qb, nothing flashy.  Did just enough.  Of course, they established their run game, which helped.  I’d like to see Sark use some wrinkles in the run game early in 2nd halves to break the will of opponents.  Almost happened against aggie until the stupid INT. 

Fred Akers, David McWilliams, John Mackovick, Mack Brown after Alabama Rose Bowl, Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. That’s what I’ve endured from being a college freshman until now.   I think complaining about Sark (and Quinn for that matter) is fucking stupid. But, if I was going to criticize Sark, it would be this. 

[Had Enough 2109]

1 hour ago, CTC2 said:

Fred Akers, David McWilliams, John Mackovick, Mack Brown after Alabama Rose Bowl, Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. That’s what I’ve endured from being a college freshman until now.   I think complaining about Sark (and Quinn for that matter) is fucking stupid. But, if I was going to criticize Sark, it would be this. 

What part exactly?

 

Baylor and ISU in 2022 were finished off by running the ball down their throat.  Same for Bama 2023.  Arkansas got a heavy dose of run late this year.  Heck maybe TCU in 2021.

I am guessing we’ve rarely thrown deep on 1st and 2nd down when up in 2nd halves.  First drive 2nd half that 21 OU game we ran wide and lost about 3 on first then threw nothing deep on 2nd or 3rd. Tech in 2022 was somewhat sporadic, but we tried running including 4th and 1 on opening drive 2nd half that got stuffed.  No deep balls on that drive.  

Sark has tweaked our approach year over year to adjust for perceived weaknesses.

[Armybrat 41335]

Well, it seems like we twerked a lot in the 2nd half this year and got pegged for it.

[TexArcher 38832]

We keep scoring 35 points a game and making it to conference championship games even with several of our best offensive players hurt, but we're just not getting better, so I'm not sold!

Fuck's sake, man.

I know it's Surly, but some of y'all need to calm your tits and enjoy what's happening here.  We are solidly in the top 5 programs in college football again, and the recruiting points to that continuing, maybe for a long time.  I had my doubts about Sark a couple of years ago, and yeah he does some frustrating things at times, but this is by far the best coaching we've had since 2009.  The future is really, really bright.

Edited Sunday at 03:20 PM by TexArcher

[Hagbard Celine 11170]

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Posted yesterday at 08:20 AM (edited)

         
    On 12/9/2024 at 6:19 PM, BevoAbyss said:

    Points per game in the Sark era.

    OFFENSE

    2021: 35 points

    2022: 35 points

    2023: 36 points

    2024: 35 points

    By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game.

    -- Regardless of whether the QB is Casey, Hudson, or Quinn for 3 years.

    Zero difference or improvement across 4 years. Seems like a concern.

    --------------

    What has improved is the points allowed.

    DEFENSE

    2021: 29 points (5-7 record)

    2022: 26 (8-5)

    2023: 19 (12-2)

    2024: 11 (11-2 so far)

    That's fantastic improvement.

    The defense is why Texas won 12 games last year and has 11 this year.

    Not Dr. Pepper Quinn or Sark's supposedly "elite" play calling.

    We have a 16-0 title winning defense saddled with an 8-5 offense.

     

I love Sark, but to add to your stats, the trend shows that we can count on about 3-4 2nd half collapses per season.  We survived them the last two seasons for the most part.  

2021

OU:  led 38-20 at half. Lost 55-48

OkSt:  led 24-13 3rd qtr.  lost 32-24

BU:  led 21-10 3rd qtr. lost 31-24

2022

Tech:  Led 31-17 3rd qtr.  lost 37-34

OkSt: Led 31-17 at half. lost 41-34

KSU:  Led 31-10 at half.  won 34-27

2023

Hou:  led 21-0 2nd qtr.  won 31-24

KSU:  led 27-7 3rd qtr.  won 33-30

TCU:  led 26-6 at half.  won 29-26

2024

Vandy:  led 21-7,  squeaked by 27-24

Arky:  led 13-0.  Held on  20-10.

Kentucky:  not quite, but almost made the list.

aggie:  17-0 at half.  Tried to hand it to them.  17-7

UGA:  completed dominated for two quarters and had nothing to show for it 6-3 at half time. lost 22-19 (didn’t build a big enough cushion)

[troph 25099]

Biggest complaints about sark’s play calling - often too reliant on the slow developing misdirection, often can’t air it out aggressively if the run is not there. Georgia shuts the run down? Go high tempo, shot gun, 3 step drops, ditch play action, empty back field and get the ball down field and wear out the DL.  Instead he lets them pin their ears back, he runs play action that doesn’t fool anyone and slow developing plays that if a pass play leave the QB back there for 3 seconds before he can even look to throw. 

[Hagbard Celine 11170]

i haven't seen this analysis and wanted to know so i ran it...

throw out uga1, it was the only game where our "game control" was non-existent at any point

we had mo in the 2nd half but were not dictating terms

so break the season in half, first 6 (skip uga1) then last 6

here are some basic numbers from the box scores (ignores "should have been x" plays due to penalties, turnovers, fuckery, etc.)

 

first 6:

yards gained 3014

points scored 234

points per yard 0.463

opponents finished season 34-38 (47%)

 

last 6:

yards gained 2563

points scored 163

points per yard 0.375

opponents finished season 42-31 (57%)

 

comparing the last half of the season to the first:

yards gained -15%

points per yard -19%

points scored -30%

 

[nbmishoid 986]

3 hours ago, TexArcher said:

We keep scoring 35 points a game and making it to conference championship games even with several of our best offensive players hurt, but we're just not getting better, so I'm not sold!

Fuck's sake, man.

I know it's Surly, but some of y'all need to calm your tits and enjoy what's happening here.  We are solidly in the top 5 programs in college football again, and the recruiting points to that continuing, maybe for a long time.  I had my doubts about Sark a couple of years ago, and yeah he does some frustrating things at times, but this is by far the best coaching we've had since 2009.  The future is really, really bright.

Dude, we‘’d love 35 pts but it’s been awhile.  This is the trend, down.  

[TexArcher 38832]

14 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Dude, we‘’d love 35 pts but it’s been awhile.  This is the trend, down.  

I get it, but our #1 RB is out, our #1 QB is playing hurt, and our #1 WR is playing hurt.

Earlier in the season we were dropping 50 point bombs on the bad teams and scoring 31 against Michigan and 34 against ou.  Everything was fine.  And we still didn't have Baxter then.

I just don't understand trying to paint the last few games as evidence of some ongoing offensive problems with this coach.  

Let me ask y'all this -- does anybody doubt that we'll have one of the best offenses in the country next year with Sark calling plays for Arch and CJ?  If you agree with that, then the problem isn't Sark.

Edited Sunday at 07:32 PM by TexArcher

[nbmishoid 986]

Anyone can have a rough streak.  There are no constants here, only variables 

[Hookem10 854]

5 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I get it, but our #1 RB is out, our #1 QB is playing hurt, and our #1 WR is playing hurt.

Earlier in the season we were dropping 50 point bombs on the bad teams and scoring 31 against Michigan and 34 against ou.  Everything was fine.  And we still didn't have Baxter then.

I just don't understand trying to paint the last few games as evidence of some ongoing offensive problems with this coach.  

Let me ask y'all this -- does anybody doubt that we'll have one of the best offenses in the country next year with Sark calling plays for Arch and CJ?  If you agree with that, then the problem isn't Sark.

[jimmyjazz 46990]

5 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Let me ask y'all this -- does anybody doubt that we'll have one of the best offenses in the country next year with Sark calling plays for Arch and CJ?  If you agree with that, then the problem isn't Sark.

I don't think there's any question that I lean towards "sunshine pumper", but we will be losing some serious talent, too, on the line + Helm, some WRs, etc.  I think we're closer to reloading than rebuilding but Sark has his work cut out.

[Hookem10 854]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't think there's any question that I lean towards "sunshine pumper", but we will be losing some serious talent, too, on the line + Helm, some WRs, etc.  I think we're closer to reloading than rebuilding but Sark has his work cut out.

most posters will take it. ewers fatigue is real. 

[nbmishoid 986]

Ewers fatigue.  Surly word of the year 

[Hank Kingsley 21615]

On 12/13/2024 at 6:18 PM, Hank Kingsley said:

Sark seems more reserved in interviews the last couple of weeks, even before the UGA game. Maybe he's exhausted at this time of year with coaching/recruiting/portal hitting all at once. Would be completely understandable. But it's noticeable. 

 

Now watching today's PC, and Sark was in a good mood and looked well rested. Bye week looks to have treated him well. LFG. 

 

Edited Monday at 07:56 PM by Hank Kingsley

[LTtxfan 49915]

 

[Stunns38 3765]

Biggest complaints about sark’s play calling - often too reliant on the slow developing misdirection, often can’t air it out aggressively if the run is not there. Georgia shuts the run down? Go high tempo, shot gun, 3 step drops, ditch play action, empty back field and get the ball down field and wear out the DL.  Instead he lets them pin their ears back, he runs play action that doesn’t fool anyone and slow developing plays that if a pass play leave the QB back there for 3 seconds before he can even look to throw. 

Hey! He’s saving it for round 3!!!

[Hank_Hill 19803]

Some of y’all need to reread the thread title

[Rockwell Torrey 1364]

Where do I get that hoody he is wearing?

[closetohumping 17786]

Urban was on cowherds show Says he’s coaching like he’s a game manager offensively because the defense is so good

[Revolution512 1512]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Urban was on cowherds show Says he’s coaching like he’s a game manager offensively because the defense is so good

That’s been the case since the first Georgia game. 

[Hookem10 854]

Cunt bohls is a pussy - he said on finebaum Texas is scared of Georgia and will not want to play them again because they can’t handle them - wtf with Texas media. Terrible media coverage to talk like that on sec national show. Have some balls. Do we have any media reps that talk with their chest dammmmit. 

[LTtxfan 49915]