Official Coach Sark Thread of Dominance—haters back off

[BurntEyes 6301]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Just to put a finer point on it:  y'all do realize we ran the spinny-spin play for 7 yards and a 1st down on a Wingo reverse, right?

Well, the first one was a 7 yard loss and cost us 2 players so..  I mean.. 

[troph 25214]

11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Well, the first one was a 7 yard loss and cost us 2 players so..  I mean.. 

the other required wingo to break two tackles, one behind the LOS to get the first down. 
 

Too cute is for date night not football.

[GreenspointTexas 9968]

His 4th down plays are either great, or an abomination

 

he needs to learn to take the points more often, specially in the cfp

[Hank Kingsley 21767]

20 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Just to put a finer point on it:  y'all do realize we ran the spinny-spin play for 7 yards and a 1st down on a Wingo reverse, right?

The one where Wingo broke two tackles near the LOS and made a great individual play? 

[GreenspointTexas 9968]

2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

I really don't know that I've seen a coach better at killing the teams momentum than Sark. Mostly, it's directly tied to 1 aspect, consistently.

Something is working (whatever that might be) and then he just inexplicably abandons whatever that might be. Usually, it happen about halfway through the second, and continues all the way through the 3rd. Then somewhere in the 4th quarter he goes back to whatever was working in the 1st and early 2nd. Then we put the game away. 

Over and over. Every fucking game. 

It's maddening and mind bottling.

Rod Babers said before the season that stats show he breaks tendency more than almost any coach in the FBS

[Coach pop a bitch 5979]

10 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Rod Babers said before the season that stats show he breaks tendency more than almost any coach in the FBS

Love Rod Babers 

[TrashMaster G 18082]

1 hour ago, Coach pop a bitch said:

Love Rod Babers 

He makes my ears bleed.

[Goodman 3282]

2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Rod Babers said before the season that stats show he breaks tendency more than almost any coach in the FBS

Rod's views make sense, starting at 41:30 

 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1500]

I like that a couple of times on short yardage, the Horns QB went under center allowing a quick hitter into the line. It seems though that they never tried a counter or fake to one side, then handoff to the other. I'd like to see more under center plays, period.

[LTtxfan 49994]

Steve Sarkisian Post-Clemson Press Conference | Longhorns Advance in CFP 

[Reynolds Woodcock 5092]

13 hours ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Kick the FG in the 1st half .  Take points.   Learn from it dammit.  Hook’em 

 

9 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

His 4th down plays are either great, or an abomination

 

he needs to learn to take the points more often, specially in the cfp

Again, we went for it on 4th twice in the 1st half from nearly the same spot. We converted the first and got 7. We missed the second. Had we just kicked field goals both times, we would only have 6.

I get it, math can be frustrating when you are an emotional person.

[TreatyOak 17358]

9 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

His 4th down plays are either great, or an abomination. he needs to learn to take the points more often, specially in the cfp

[Hookem2147 22026]

6 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

 

Again, we went for it on 4th twice in the 1st half from nearly the same spot. We converted the first and got 7. We missed the second. Had we just kicked field goals both times, we would only have 6.

I get it, math can be frustrating when you are an emotional person.

How I imagine the “take the points” people ignoring all analytics and game theory for the thrill of trotting out an unreliable FG kicker who has missed 4 of his last 10. They love it when we go for it on 4th down and get it though.

[Rickylovesweed 15480]

Yeah, I don’t get the “take the points” crowd. Our FG kicker is never a guarantee for points. 

[OU Sucks 9379]

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

How I imagine the “take the points” people ignoring all analytics and game theory for the thrill of trotting out an unreliable FG kicker who has missed 4 of his last 10. They love it when we go for it on 4th down and get it though.

It would have been a 36 yard attempt. Bert has hit his last 19 kicks between 30-39. He last missed one in that range in October. Of 2022.

[Bigbend1812 13057]

18 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

How I imagine the “take the points” people ignoring all analytics and game theory for the thrill of trotting out an unreliable FG kicker who has missed 4 of his last 10. They love it when we go for it on 4th down and get it though.

lulz.  

 

[Hookem2147 22026]

9 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

It would have been a 36 yard attempt. Bert has hit his last 19 kicks between 30-39. He last missed one in that range in October. Of 2022.

We were blowing people off the ball and the defense was in a good spot. I can somewhat understand playing to make a 2 score game a 3 game in the second half but it was the second quarter. That isn’t the time to play conservative and start counting possessions.

I’d have to go back and see the replay but watching it live I wasn’t thrilled with the way Blue navigated his blocking on that play.

[BurntEyes 6301]

29 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah, I don’t get the “take the points” crowd. Our FG kicker is never a guarantee for points. 

He's fucking aces inside 40. 

He's questionable outside 40 for sure.

In case you're bad at math 36 yards is less than 40. 

It wasn't just the decision to go for it, but the play call and players in for the call. 

A bad coaching call no matter how you choose to slice it.

Edited 3 hours ago by BurntEyes

[OU Sucks 9379]

14 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

We were blowing people off the ball and the defense was in a good spot. I can somewhat understand playing to make a 2 score game a 3 game in the second half but it was the second quarter. That isn’t the time to play conservative and start counting possessions.

I’d have to go back and see the replay but watching it live I wasn’t thrilled with the way Blue navigated his blocking on that play.

I didn't say anything about the decision...just that Bert has been automatic from that range, even through this shitty year for him.  Taking the points would have resulted in points, in all likelihood.

Edited 2 hours ago by OU Sucks

[randomhorn 2191]

3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

In case you're bad at math 36 yards is less than 40.

[Zeus 6854]

1 hour ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah, I don’t get the “take the points” crowd. Our FG kicker is never a guarantee for points. 

It’s about timing. 
 

There’s a feel for when it makes sense or not. 
 

To me, when you are up 14, you just take the points (if you make it) and get your defense reset. You keep the momentum. 
 

Sure if you make it and keep rolling 7 is better, but at that point there’s no reason for it. Just keep stacking points and keep the pressure on them. 

[troph 25214]

It was a bad decision. You’re at home, you’re up 2 scores, your defense was scored on but had tightened up. The risk wasn’t worth the reward, take the points leave no opportunity for Clemson to find momentum. Sark does this a lot - he takes the chance and it backfires and it’s 10-15 mins of game time where the other team has the momentum.  Don’t give it to them. Now if the FG kept it a two score game then yeah, go for it, but when you can extend your lead by a full possession when you’re already up 2 you take the points. Every fucking time. 

[troph 25214]

8 minutes ago, Zeus said:

It’s about timing. 
 

There’s a feel for when it makes sense or not. 
 

To me, when you are up 14, you just take the points (if you make it) and get your defense reset. You keep the momentum. 
 

Sure if you make it and keep rolling 7 is better, but at that point there’s no reason for it. Just keep stacking points and keep the pressure on them. 

In this case 3 or 7 points it’s a 3 possession lead. So in that sense they aren’t much different but going for it has more risk. It would be much different if it was still a 2 possession lead with 3 points. But it wasn’t. 

[hornian 5292]

One thing I remembered today that I haven't seen commented on:

The play before Bert's FG kick to go up 21 points, we were on the right hash, where Bert has problems this season. Sark called a play that was a run to the left, so that if we didn't get the TD the ball was in the middle of the field. We didn't get the TD, but Bert made the FG. That was some solid situational awareness in the moment by Sark.

[DaysOff 8201]

Plus his inability to stretch leads from 2 to 3 score leads with his bonehead fourth down calls. Over and over and over again. 

Exactly. Kick the fg that we know Bert can make. Pushing the lead to 3 possessions puts a lot more stress on the opposition.

[CurlyDumps 4652]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

We were blowing people off the ball and the defense was in a good spot. I can somewhat understand playing to make a 2 score game a 3 game in the second half but it was the second quarter. That isn’t the time to play conservative and start counting possessions.

I’d have to go back and see the replay but watching it live I wasn’t thrilled with the way Blue navigated his blocking on that play.

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

How I imagine the “take the points” people ignoring all analytics and game theory for the thrill of trotting out an unreliable FG kicker who has missed 4 of his last 10. They love it when we go for it on 4th down and get it though.

 

lol this.  The days of scared old men taking the points are pretty much over. Smart teams don't kick on 4th and short anymore. It's a losing trend that has been in the process of being phased out for a while now. 

I know it's scary but ya'll gotta let go of your warm, cozy field goals.

[BurntEyes 6301]

5 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

 

lol this.  The days of scared old men taking the points are pretty much over. Smart teams don't kick on 4th and short anymore. It's a losing trend that has been in the process of being phased out for a while now. 

I know it's scary but ya'll gotta let go of your warm, cozy field goals.

Momentum is real. 3 score game is very different mentally than a 2 score game, particularly if it's a 3 score game on the road, as an underdog in a college football playoff win or go home situation.

This isn't old man cozy talk, this is has a clue about the game of football talk. 

Edited 1 hour ago by BurntEyes

[bluto 4996]

1 hour ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah, I don’t get the “take the points” crowd. Our FG kicker is never a guarantee for points. 

Inside of 40 he is essentially a guarantee. 

[UTEE97 3933]

Sark got himself a nice little Christmas bonus. I wish players were also eligible for milestone based bonuses. I bet the overall effort level would go through the roof if they could make some extra money for winning postseason games.

https://athlonsports.com/college/texas-longhorns/steve-sarkisian-earns-massive-bonus-after-texas-clemson-cfp-game

 

[Hornius Emeritus 12798]

On 10/22/2022 at 6:03 PM, Neonmoon said:

Sark is a terrible coach and his record proves it 

This aged well.

[DreadHead 135]

4 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Sark got himself a nice little Christmas bonus. I wish players were also eligible for milestone based bonuses. I bet the overall effort level would go through the roof if they could make some extra money for winning postseason games.

https://athlonsports.com/college/texas-longhorns/steve-sarkisian-earns-massive-bonus-after-texas-clemson-cfp-game

 

With what Brian Kelly and Mike Norvell are doing, taking some of their salary and donating it back for use by their respective schools... it seems Sark could do something similar with his bonuses, should he choose. That seems like it would be a stand-up thing to do, getting some cash to the players and increasing the spotlight on Texas. Things like that could increase the incentive for players to come to Texas or portal here.

[jimmyjazz 47137]

51 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

I know it's scary but ya'll gotta let go of your warm, cozy field goals.

I don't have any data to back up this feeling, but the strength of the opposing defense has to factor in.  Take the 3 against UGA, maybe not against Clemson (although I was yelling at the screen to take the 3).

[TexasMan 11448]

 

[Hookem2147 22026]

41 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

This aged well.

27-6 since that date. Losses were to #4 TCU, #12 Washington, #12 OU, #2 Washington, #5 Georgia and #5 Georgia.

[Magabro 213]

One thing I remembered today that I haven't seen commented on:
The play before Bert's FG kick to go up 21 points, we were on the right hash, where Bert has problems this season. Sark called a play that was a run to the left, so that if we didn't get the TD the ball was in the middle of the field. We didn't get the TD, but Bert made the FG. That was some solid situational awareness in the moment by Sark.

Nice observation

[LTtxfan 49994]

28 minutes ago, TexasMan said:

 

 

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[TexasMan 11448]

Sometimes she can be annoying, but dammit she can pull out the receipts on this clown shoes loser.