Official Coach Sark Thread of Dominance—haters back off

[BarthHollamew 251]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:19 PM, BevoAbyss said:

Points per game in the Sark era.

OFFENSE

2021: 35 points

2022: 35 points 

2023: 36 points 

2024: 35 points 

By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game. 

-- Regardless of whether the QB is Casey, Hudson, or Quinn for 3 years. 

Zero difference or improvement across 4 years. Seems like a concern.

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What has improved is the points allowed.

DEFENSE

2021: 29 points (5-7 record)

2022: 26 (8-5)

2023: 19 (12-2)

2024: 11 (11-2 so far)

That's fantastic improvement. 

The defense is why Texas won 12 games last year and has 11 this year.

Not Dr. Pepper Quinn or Sark's supposedly "elite" play calling. 

We have a 16-0 title winning defense saddled with an 8-5 offense. 

 

I love Sark, but to add to your stats, the trend shows that we can count on about 3-4 2nd half collapses per season.  We survived them the last two seasons for the most part.  

2021

OU:  led 38-20 at half. Lost 55-48

OkSt:  led 24-13 3rd qtr.  lost 32-24

BU:  led 21-10 3rd qtr. lost 31-24

2022

Tech:  Led 31-17 3rd qtr.  lost 37-34

OkSt: Led 31-17 at half. lost 41-34

KSU:  Led 31-10 at half.  won 34-27

2023

Hou:  led 21-0 2nd qtr.  won 31-24

KSU:  led 27-7 3rd qtr.  won 33-30

TCU:  led 26-6 at half.  won 29-26

2024

Vandy:  led 21-7,  squeaked by 27-24

Arky:  led 13-0.  Held on  20-10. 

Kentucky:  not quite, but almost made the list. 

aggie:  17-0 at half.  Tried to hand it to them.  17-7

UGA:  completed dominated for two quarters and had nothing to show for it 6-3 at half time. lost 22-19 (didn’t build a big enough cushion)

Edited 16 hours ago by BarthHollamew

[Hook1997 5467]

47 minutes ago, BarthHollamew said:

I love Sark, but to add to your stats, the trend shows that we can count on about 3-4 2nd half collapses per season.  We survived them the last two seasons for the most part.  

2021

OU:  led 38-20 at half. Lost 55-48

OkSt:  led 24-13 3rd qtr.  lost 32-24

BU:  led 21-10 3rd qtr. lost 31-24

2022

Tech:  Led 31-17 3rd qtr.  lost 37-34

OkSt: Led 31-17 at half. lost 41-34

KSU:  Led 31-10 at half.  won 34-27

2023

Hou:  led 21-0 2nd qtr.  won 31-24

KSU:  led 27-7 3rd qtr.  won 33-30

TCU:  led 26-6 at half.  won 29-26

2024

Vandy:  led 21-7,  squeaked by 27-24

Arky:  led 13-0.  Held on  20-10. 

Kentucky:  not quite, but almost made the list. 

aggie:  17-0 at half.  Tried to hand it to them.  17-7

UGA:  completed dominated for two quarters and had nothing to show for it 6-3 at half time. lost 22-19 (didn’t build a big enough cushion)

Seems like we need better people up in the box analyzing what’s going on the first half.  Aren’t there people who go thru film during the game looking for adjustments to be made at half or is that just a NFL thing?  If not we need that bad.  

[BarthHollamew 251]

I think hunting the big play in 2nd halves instead of just moving the chains has hurt us some.  Seems like in a lot of those collapses, there were drives where we threw deep unsuccessfully on 1st and 2nd down.  Sark usually has a great initial game plan, but once teams adjust, it seems we have no counter in certain games.  Georgia moved the chains with their back-up qb, nothing flashy.  Did just enough.  Of course, they established their run game, which helped.  I’d like to see Sark use some wrinkles in the run game early in 2nd halves to break the will of opponents.  Almost happened against aggie until the stupid INT. 

[El Hornarino 377]

OFEI

2007 USC - 20

2008 USC - 9

2009 Washington - 35

2010 Washington - 51

2011 Washington - 16

2012 Washington - 72

2013 Washington - 17

2014 USC - 14

2015 USC - 18

2019 Alabama - 2

2020 Alabama - 1

2021 Texas - 35

2022 Texas - 17

2023 Texas - 19

2024 Texas - 19

[Scuba Saba 34]

It's QE's turn. That bothers me. It's no one's turn that is not productive. Both Sabin and Riley had their Rottler/Willams and Tua/Hurt moments and the only turn that counted was willing the game, not someone one's feelings.    

[AnotherLawyer 397]

22 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Ok, but let’s be real. Major Applewhite was much better than Chris Simms. Anybody could see it.

Okay, let’s. That wasn’t the fucking point.

[Had Enough 2103]

On 12/10/2024 at 1:21 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Our SOS in 2021 was a lot different than last year or this year. When you play extra games like we did in 2023 and this year it is usually against great competition. We faced 5 backup QB’s last year on defense. There are a billion other factors at play. 

Also, saying we have a 8-5 offense is about as kneejerk as one can get. We rank top 25-30 nationally in yards, points, 3rd down and almost every passing statistic. We aren’t 2020 bama but there is middle ground between that and an Alamo Bowl offense.

A lot different in what manner?  We played the following inn2021:

FEI in 2021.  We played #5, 7, 13, 14, 15 and 16.  We played 16 at a neutral site, 5 at home (think they came off a bye, 7 on the road (both teams off byes) then 14 (on the road at night).  That was 4 games in a row.   That’s brutal.  Any strength of schedule that doesn’t consider the timing and order of when games are played falls short.

 Lost to a terrible KU (117) team but that was Jaylon Daniels too.  If you only included his starts, they weren’t 117.  Then WVU (#62) on the road.

We beat #50 Louisiana by 20.  Their only loss.  We put up 70 on #47 Texas Tech.  Rice was 118, but we beat them 58-0.  Rushed for 427 and scored none in the 4th.  TCU was 79.

The defenses in 2021 included 2, 8, 17, 20 and 21.  Like 5 or 6 in the top 30 of TFLs.

The back end defenses were pretty poor but they were likely worsened by playing us.  We scored 58, 70, 32, and 56 against the bottom 4.  All of that in the first year of the system.

As for 2023, Ok State was #39 in FEI.  So at least worse than half of our 2021 opponents by 1 metric.  I’m assuming the backup QBs are Bean (made a good run an NFL roster, previously started), Wyoming guy (probably didn’t matter), Hoover (retained the role the next year), Morton (retained the role the next year).  Robertson (retained the role the next year).

If you want to introduce that, then you need to say that we missed the starter for MSU, UF (the 3rd guy), OU and A&M.  Michigan, ULM, Kentucky (OU/A&M) all benched their guy due to ineffectiveness.  Beck, Pavia, Green, McCown/Fowler-Nicosi are not Penix, Gabriel, Milroe, Howard, Becht/Hoover/Bean/Jt Daniels.  Even Slovis got to hang around the NFL a bit.

In 2021, you had KJ Jefferson, Duggan, Rattler/Williams, Shough, Sanders, Purdy, Howard, J Daniels, Bohannon.

Lots of factors in play for certain.  The truth is the defense has advanced more than the offense.  The relative strength of our opponents defenses rank from 45 to 29 so it hasn’t changed a ton.  Year 1 you’d expect more hiccups than year 4.

Also, the strength of our opponents offenses goes from 10th to 9th to 10th to 44th for 2021 thru 2024.

2024 - OFEI/ODA 31; DFEI/OOA 44

2023 - 36/10

2022 - 29/9

2021 - 45/10

 

There is a discussion to be had that the 2024 Texas season is the easiest in Sarks tenure.  It’s the crappiest slate of offenses we’ve faced with presumably the worst QB group.  I’d actually say easily the worst.  And the defenses we’ve faced are on par with the other 4 seasons.

i would think once we make this run that will change, but it is noteworthy based on where we stand today.  Those 2024 numbers are better based on the championship game with Georgia.

[Hank_Hill 19595]

5 hours ago, Scuba Saba said:

It's QE's turn. That bothers me. It's no one's turn that is not productive. Both Sabin and Riley had their Rottler/Willams and Tua/Hurt moments and the only turn that counted was willing the game, not someone one's feelings.    

This is strong stuff

[jimmyjazz 46847]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

This is strong stuff

AI?

[CTC2 2847]

11 hours ago, BarthHollamew said:

I think hunting the big play in 2nd halves instead of just moving the chains has hurt us some.  Seems like in a lot of those collapses, there were drives where we threw deep unsuccessfully on 1st and 2nd down.  Sark usually has a great initial game plan, but once teams adjust, it seems we have no counter in certain games.  Georgia moved the chains with their back-up qb, nothing flashy.  Did just enough.  Of course, they established their run game, which helped.  I’d like to see Sark use some wrinkles in the run game early in 2nd halves to break the will of opponents.  Almost happened against aggie until the stupid INT. 

Fred Akers, David McWilliams, John Mackovick, Mack Brown after Alabama Rose Bowl, Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. That’s what I’ve endured from being a college freshman until now.   I think complaining about Sark (and Quinn for that matter) is fucking stupid. But, if I was going to criticize Sark, it would be this. 

[Had Enough 2103]

1 hour ago, CTC2 said:

Fred Akers, David McWilliams, John Mackovick, Mack Brown after Alabama Rose Bowl, Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. That’s what I’ve endured from being a college freshman until now.   I think complaining about Sark (and Quinn for that matter) is fucking stupid. But, if I was going to criticize Sark, it would be this. 

What part exactly?

 

Baylor and ISU in 2022 were finished off by running the ball down their throat.  Same for Bama 2023.  Arkansas got a heavy dose of run late this year.  Heck maybe TCU in 2021.

I am guessing we’ve rarely thrown deep on 1st and 2nd down when up in 2nd halves.  First drive 2nd half that 21 OU game we ran wide and lost about 3 on first then threw nothing deep on 2nd or 3rd. Tech in 2022 was somewhat sporadic, but we tried running including 4th and 1 on opening drive 2nd half that got stuffed.  No deep balls on that drive.  

Sark has tweaked our approach year over year to adjust for perceived weaknesses.