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  On 8/20/2023 at 7:36 PM, mwaadeeb said:

It was always going to be a challenge signing a big OL class after one of the best OL hauls ever a few years ago and so much depth. Going after OOS big fish who aren't afraid of competition isn't bad strategy. 

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I agree and like I said, I'm glad they did it.  But it's not going to look very smart if we go 0-4 on the OOS guys and get snubbed when we circle back on all the guys who weren't good enough 3 months ago.  

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  On 8/20/2023 at 7:19 PM, Fumbles said:

Eh, I'm certainly not despairing, but I don't like the way the coaches have handled this cycle at OL.  I'm glad that we recognized the in-state crop of OL talent was down and we decided to look out of state for guys that meet our standard.  Nyier Daniels, Daniel Calhoun, Brandon Baker, Deandre Carter, etc.  But even in a down year for in-state talent, Texas recruits will always be the lifeblood of the program.  Texas recruits will also feel a gravitational pull to UT that OOS guys don't.  OOS guys should always be seen as potential cherries on top, not Plan A to be relied on.  Michael Uini, Blake Ivey, and Ory Williams all seemed like gettable guys.  But (I have no inside information, just my impression from publicly available information so I could be way off base) it seems like the coaches invested more into chasing the OOS guys and other schools prioritized the Texas OL talent.  And now here we are, hoping that a California kid with stronger ties to Oregon than Texas decides to commit here to keep the OL class from looking like a Tom Herman OL class.

But it's a long way to signing day and Sark's staff have consistently shown an ability to close strong.  I'm not stressing it, we'll see how it plays out.  

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Why not just go full @JFKFC and ask over and over why we aren't signing every single OL that enters the portal? 

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  On 8/20/2023 at 8:08 PM, Fumbles said:

I agree and like I said, I'm glad they did it.  But it's not going to look very smart if we go 0-4 on the OOS guys and get snubbed when we circle back on all the guys who weren't good enough 3 months ago.  

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A solid year on the field and those recruits will be fine being a second/circle back option, if we happen to miss out on the main targets (which I doubt happens). 
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That's what I don't get about the OL shit. The vast majority of OL are going to be in college 4-5 years. Banks is the rare exception. A lot of the guys from the last 2 classes have already shown something. 

The days of Max Merril's seeing meaningful playing time should thankfully be over. 

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I’d like to hope that the days of max Merrill and sawyer goram Welch being on scholarship are over. Hopefully as they matriculate out one way or another, the entirety of the room will be able to compete and contribute above a practice squad level. 
 

I think the empty scholarships are the last roster mismanagement issue sark needs to fix- and has made progress on some areas. 

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Posted
  On 8/21/2023 at 1:48 AM, closetojumping said:

1) Ross to Texas would be an all-time shocker. Give me a fucking break.

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Yes, but Ross and Simmons manning the edge would be kind of nice. In fact, our DL haul plus DE haul plus our linebackers from last year could give offenses a little to worry about, especially with MM, (Holmes), Black, Wilson, Williams, Roberson, JJR in the defensive backfield.

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  On 8/21/2023 at 2:15 AM, Bevo said:

Yes, but Ross and Simmons manning the edge would be kind of nice. In fact, our DL haul plus DE haul plus our linebackers from last year could give offenses a little to worry about, especially with MM, (Holmes), Black, Wilson, Williams, Roberson, JJR in the defensive backfield.

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You know what would also be awesome on the outside? 1986 Lawrence Taylor manning the opposite side of Simmons. 

Who gives a fuck about that kind of silly nonsense? The point is that Ross is using Texas as a hat on the table. This discussion has nothing to do with the real world beyond that understanding. 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 2:25 AM, closetojumping said:

You know what would also be awesome on the outside? 1986 Lawrence Taylor manning the opposite side of Simmons. 

Who gives a fuck about that kind of silly nonsense? The point is that Ross is using Texas as a hat on the table. This discussion has nothing to do with the real world beyond that understanding. 

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Get Baker, have Auburn win 5 again again and have Baker and the 25 rb Davison from Mater Dei in Carters ear all season…Horns could lock down 3 top 50 OL. 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 2:25 AM, closetojumping said:

You know what would also be awesome on the outside? 1986 Lawrence Taylor manning the opposite side of Simmons. 

Who gives a fuck about that kind of silly nonsense? The point is that Ross is using Texas as a hat on the table. This discussion has nothing to do with the real world beyond that understanding. 

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I would take a 64-year old LT over Ovie. 

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  On 8/20/2023 at 4:12 AM, Magus Ossis said:

 

Actually both ‘dominant’ and ‘dominate’ are correct. It goes back to the Latin dominor, a deponent verb. It has passive forms (like the pp dominatus) that have active meaning. And then we have the expected active participial forms that give us the more customary -ant ending.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe “deviant” and “deviate” are similar. I only know this because the word “deviate” is used in the criminal codes in phrases such as, “deviate sexual behavior.” It used to irritate the hell out of me. 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 1:48 AM, closetojumping said:

2) The handwringing over OL recruiting is representative of a bunch of dicklessness on this board and nothing regarding reality. The last two classes have hit. They like all of those guys and Flood knows what he is doing. If they land Baker, the rich get richer. If they don’t, cry in private, please. 

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turns out having a bunch of young(ish) dudes who are good at OL makes it somewhat hard to recruit highly ranked dudes at that position.

LT and RT were set in stone once Jones came back. Center has started 26 straight games. you have some combo of Conner/Hutson/Campbell/Williams/Neto who are going to be hard to shake up guards. you have high ceiling/low floor guys that are currently true freshmen.

people aren't used to not having a shit OL room with needs every year. when was the last time Texas had an OL room this good and/or deep? 09? had a guys with 26 starts at RT, a guy who had just started that season at RG but who started i think every game that year?, 35 starts at C, 31 starts at RG, 42 starts at LT.

https://www.huskermax.com/games/2009/files/13texas_depth.pdf

 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 2:24 PM, NoName said:

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turns out having a bunch of young(ish) dudes who are good at OL makes it somewhat hard to recruit highly ranked dudes at that position.

LT and RT were set in stone once Jones came back. Center has started 26 straight games. you have some combo of Conner/Hutson/Campbell/Williams/Neto who are going to be hard to shake up guards. you have high ceiling/low floor guys that are currently true freshmen.

people aren't used to not having a shit OL room with needs every year. when was the last time Texas had an OL room this good and/or deep? 09? had a guys with 26 starts at RT, a guy who had just started that season at RG but who started i think every game that year?, 35 starts at C, 31 starts at RG, 42 starts at LT.

https://www.huskermax.com/games/2009/files/13texas_depth.pdf

 

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I cant bring myself to go through the ugly history of the Texas OL the last decade, but is this the 1st year that there isnt a freshmen starting by default? 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 3:06 PM, Chili dog said:

Our OL was complete shit in 09. Need I remind you of the attempted murder of Colt McCoy by Ndomikung Suh in which no one wearing a number between 50 and 79 offered any assistance whatsoever?

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Yup.  Last really good Texas oline was 2006.

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  On 8/21/2023 at 3:06 PM, Chili dog said:

Our OL was complete shit in 09. Need I remind you of the attempted murder of Colt McCoy by Ndamukong Suh in which no one wearing a number between 50 and 79 offered any assistance whatsoever?

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you mean the interior DL that was a Heisman finalist and finished 4th in the Heisman voting, won the AP CFB POY (first and only defensive player ever to win that award), Nagurski Trophy, Bednarik Award, Lombardi Award, Outland Trophy and was a unanimous All American before going #2 in the NFL draft? that guy?

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  On 8/21/2023 at 2:14 PM, Chili dog said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe “deviant” and “deviate” are similar. I only know this because the word “deviate” is used in the criminal codes in phrases such as, “deviate sexual behavior.” It used to irritate the hell out of me. 

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Don't call me a linguist, but I think there is a tradition in the English language to modify the pronunciation of the word in these cases to help differentiate the word's given role.  Such as dom•en•ayt and dom•en•uht... Deev•e•ayt and deev•e•uht

Helps greatly in making it all less irritating 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 3:06 PM, Chili dog said:

Our OL was complete shit in 09. Need I remind you of the attempted murder of Colt McCoy by Ndamukong Suh in which no one wearing a number between 50 and 79 offered any assistance whatsoever?

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Dude is one of the best to ever play. And I don't think you can say the OL was complete shit when we were in the championship game. It's certainly fair to argue their inability to protect Colt was the biggest contributing factor to the loss, but they weren't complete shit. 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 3:26 PM, NoName said:

you mean the interior DL that was a Heisman finalist and finished 4th in the Heisman voting, won the AP CFB POY (first and only defensive player ever to win that award), Nagurski Trophy, Bednarik Award, Lombardi Award, Outland Trophy and was a unanimous All American before going #2 in the NFL draft? that guy?

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Yeah, that guy. Our line was a disaster, regardless, but his game against us probably got him half those votes. We had no running game without Colt scrambling. Our pass game had to be quick all year because we had no pass pro. We were straight ass up front. We weren’t much better in 08.

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Which is this dominant topics would dominate this thread this week

Charleston in relation to talent

Stanford's academics compared to ours 

what the weather in Austin around September timeframe compared to other parts of the country 

 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 4:06 PM, SquishMitten said:

Dude is one of the best to ever play. And I don't think you can say the OL was complete shit when we were in the championship game. It's certainly fair to argue their inability to protect Colt was the biggest contributing factor to the loss, but they weren't complete shit. 

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I will never forget the close up shots of Suh sending Chris Hall and Michael Huey flying out of the screen like he was swatting a fly on his way to chasing Colt around in the backfield. I have never seen anything like that since. 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 4:36 PM, Vertigo said:

I will never forget the close up shots of Suh sending Chris Hall and Michael Huey flying out of the screen like he was swatting a fly on his way to chasing Colt around in the backfield. I have never seen anything like that since. 

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I was in the cheap seats and there were times I was afraid either Hall or Huey was going to land on me. 

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Posted
  On 8/21/2023 at 4:29 PM, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I remember thinking our line 2018 being pretty decent with Anderson and Cosmi at tackles.

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There was also another decent OL I think 2012 or 2013 maybe? The one with Donald Hawkins. Not elite by any means but good by comparison to all the bad OL years.

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Recruiting update from IT. Sounds like OU is losing confidence with McKinley.

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  On 8/21/2023 at 4:46 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Is 06 the last season we had a good qb and a good OL simultaneously?

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Probably?  And even then- Colt was a red shirt freshman and nothing special- he was more a product of his environment that year- as you will probably remember his big step back the next year when most of his OL moved on. 

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  On 8/21/2023 at 4:06 PM, SquishMitten said:

Dude is one of the best to ever play. And I don't think you can say the OL was complete shit when we were in the championship game. It's certainly fair to argue their inability to protect Colt was the biggest contributing factor to the loss, but they weren't complete shit. 

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The OL was absolutely the weak link on what was otherwise an elite team.  They were not good and it was a harbinger of things to come.

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  On 8/21/2023 at 4:45 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Dominick McKinley, DL, Lafayette (La.) Acadiana

Sunday night, one source mentioned that OU could be slipping. That is not IT reporting that to be clear.

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It's not IT reporting that?  Then who the fuck is it???

 

 

  On 8/21/2023 at 4:45 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Jordan Anderson, WR, Newport Beach (Calif.) Newport Harbor – Oregon commit

The 6-foot-0, 170-pound On3 four-star receiver is solid to the Pacific northwest Ducks, but is still looking around, sources tell Inside Texas.

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If he's still looking around, then he's not solid, is he?  Or is "IT not reporting that," either?

 

It's amazing that they - and others in this industry - can blithely write stuff like that and perhaps even garner praise for it.

 

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