Texas Recruiting Notes 2024: Bags Don't Beat Bankrolls

[Radical Larry 28523]

[CashMcCoy 3199]

1 minute ago, Radical Larry said:

 

Edited August 23, 2023 by CashMcCoy

[TankedBevo 2482]

Five Star Plus+ 

 

Ten years from now we'll have Five Star Plus++(^2), Five StarMax and finally, Super Five StarMax+ Ultimate Edition recruits. 

[Wiler77 1555]

24 minutes ago, TankedBevo said:

Five Star Plus+ 

 

Ten years from now we'll have Five Star Plus++(^2), Five StarMax and finally, Super Five StarMax+ Ultimate Edition recruits. 

My wife tells the story of her notoriously frugal dad being proud of himself for finding a "6 star" hotel in Mexico to take the family one year.  Even though it was super cheap, he was still dismissive when people told him there was no such thing as a 6 star hotel.  Turns out when you market yourself as a 6 star hotel with nothing to actually back up that claim, there isn't any sort of standard you have to hold yourself to.  My wife said "2 star if I'm being generous".

This has nothing to do with recruiting other than Five Star Plus+ sounds totally made up.

[mdleast 8255]

How many miles do you need to get to Five Star Platinum status?

[ChemicalHorn 347]

6 hours ago, RollingPresidential said:

A bit odd for Roach to say that thing about asking reporters for payment for interviews, isn't it?

Pretty smart by Baker tbh. The really good recruiting reporters can make 6figs.

[Texas Wahoo 3383]

31 minutes ago, Wiler77 said:

My wife tells the story of her notoriously frugal dad being proud of himself for finding a "6 star" hotel in Mexico to take the family one year.  Even though it was super cheap, he was still dismissive when people told him there was no such thing as a 6 star hotel.  Turns out when you market yourself as a 6 star hotel with nothing to actually back up that claim, there isn't any sort of standard you have to hold yourself to.  My wife said "2 star if I'm being generous".

This has nothing to do with recruiting other than Five Star Plus+ sounds totally made up.

[RomaVicta 29756]

3 hours ago, TankedBevo said:

Five Star Plus+ 

 

Ten years from now we'll have Five Star Plus++(^2), Five StarMax and finally, Super Five StarMax+ Ultimate Edition recruits. 

I agree with you 110%.

[texifornia 56434]

Gibson, Johnson-Rubell, Kern, and Lacey will all be on ESPN or ESPN2. I'm a bit shocked Duncanville - SOC won't be televised.

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

14 hours ago, Wiler77 said:

My wife tells the story of her notoriously frugal dad being proud of himself for finding a "6 star" hotel in Mexico to take the family one year.  Even though it was super cheap, he was still dismissive when people told him there was no such thing as a 6 star hotel.  Turns out when you market yourself as a 6 star hotel with nothing to actually back up that claim, there isn't any sort of standard you have to hold yourself to.  My wife said "2 star if I'm being generous".

This has nothing to do with recruiting other than Five Star Plus+ sounds totally made up.

It is made up, but in this case it does have a definition- it’s when a player has a 5 star rating at each rating service. As opposed to only some of them or only the composite. 

[HenryJames 65868]

22 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'm a bit shocked Duncanville - SOC won't be televised.

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

20 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Gibson, Johnson-Rubell, Kern, and Lacey will all be on ESPN or ESPN2. I'm a bit shocked Duncanville - SOC won't be televised.

Just another example of aggy paranoia. They believe the Texas AD controls the UIL. The UIL controls what TXHS games can be on TV. Yet… the mighty tuIL can’t get Colin Simmons on ESPN. 
 

Once again, I wish we were all powerful like aggy thinks we are. 

[The Dog 43771]

20 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Just another example of aggy paranoia. They believe the Texas AD controls the UIL. The UIL controls what TXHS games can be on TV. Yet… the mighty tuIL can’t get Colin Simmons on ESPN. 
 

Once again, I wish we were all powerful like aggy thinks we are. 

TBF it is part of UT:

The University Interscholastic League was created by The University of Texas at Austin to provide leadership and guidance to public school debate and athletic teachers. Since 1910 the UIL has grown into the largest inter-school organization of its kind in the world. 

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

TBF it is part of UT:

The University Interscholastic League was created by The University of Texas at Austin to provide leadership and guidance to public school debate and athletic teachers. Since 1910 the UIL has grown into the largest inter-school organization of its kind in the world. 

Duh. But aggy accuses us of manipulating the UIL for our benefit. 

[The Dog 43771]

3 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Duh. But aggy accuses us of manipulating the UIL for our benefit. 

Obviously we aren't.

But we should.

[Vertigo 20257]

22 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Obviously we aren't.

But we should.

We lose a head to head recruiting battle against aggy? BOOM. UIL rules said player ineligible. 

[Nigel Tufnel 197]

15 hours ago, Texas Wahoo said:

I need to get NIL from this.

[Katfid54 8591]

On 8/22/2023 at 9:29 AM, NoName said:

paging @Katfid54

this guy? (that's the first GIS for Colby Black)

in reality you mean Kobe Black the CB from Waco. here is his top 5

here are his scheduled OVs, still has them booked for A&M (when they play Bama at home) and LSU (vs Grambling St)

 

 

[Getafix 28392]

 

🙂

On Brandon Baker.  This sounded really good.

From the Buckeye 247 staff today - a combination of Kurelic and a couple of their other guys/sources. (Recently, Wiltfong said he thought it was Texas vs. Ohio State.)

The gist:

- until recently, they thought Ohio State led for Baker.  They don't anymore.

- as of now, they give Texas the nod.  Not over, but it sounds like Texas.

- they are competitive with (their) NIL, but when oil money goes all in, hard to match.

 

On a related note, they talked about Baker as a prospect, and they were absolutely gushing.  Remember, this is Ohio State, with a zillion 5 stars in this class and across their roster.  So it's not like seeing 5 stars is anything new for them.  Some paraphrased excerpts:

- hate comparing prospects with the best in the NFL, but if there's one guy with whom you do it, it's Baker.

- a dancer.  Surefire NFL talent.  If they were sitting with millionaire donors and could use the money for one guy, they would do it for Baker. 

- don't want to talk about him because they may start crying ... hard "breaking up" with someone.  From an NFL standpoint, as much of a sure thing as you can get.  "But that's what you're losing ..."

So yeah, hope we get the guy.

 

 

[Getafix 28392]

 

Where I sit with LSU and 5-star DL Dominick McKinley

Sonny Shipp (LSU 247)

"If I had to put in a pick right now, I’m not sure who it would go to. I do know it would not go to the home team at this stage and on the current terms."

"The Texas sentiment coming from some who have picks in on the Longhorns remains positive about their chances."

(And, for the lulz ...)  "LSU has to use these next eight days to show its entire benefits package – on the field, in the classroom 🤣  🤣  🤣 , NIL opportunities, etc. – ..."

 

Spoiler

 

Where I sit with LSU and 5-star DL Dominick McKinley

Sonny Shipp (LSU 247)
 

Today marked eight days out from 5-star DL Dominick McKinley's announcement that is set for Friday, Sept. 1.

The lone uncommitted prospect inside the top 10 for Louisiana’s 2024 class has coaching staffs at Ohio State, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, and LSU working overtime as the clock ticks down.

The lines of communication between LSU and McKinley’s camp, primarily his mom, dad and uncle, remain open and things have trended in more of a positive direction over the last 10 days or so. I still feel LSU has ground to make up, but I am not sure who is sitting in that pole position.

Ohio State defensive line coach Larry Johnson has been the lead recruiter for the Buckeyes from the start. We heard former LSU product Rashard Lawrence rave about Johnson when he came out of Neville and many discounted the Buckeyes back then. The same thing happened with McKinley, but the Buckeyes are definitely a legitimate threat.

Guarded optimism is how I would label some sentiment on the OSU side. The Texas sentiment coming from some who have picks in on the Longhorns remains positive about their chances. TJ Lindsey’s commitment to Auburn made McKinley an even higher priority for the Longhorns, and we know they have a huge pool of NIL resources to fall back on.

Texas A&M and Oklahoma have not been mentioned as much, but I think the Aggies are the bigger threat of the two.

If I had to put in a pick right now, I’m not sure who it would go to. I do know it would not go to the home team at this stage and on the current terms.

While I feel LSU has made up some ground since the Bayou Splash and the medical event that followed with Jimmy Lindsey, there is still more work for Frank Wilson and co. that lies ahead over the next week.

LSU has already expressed the need to add one of the country’s best defensive linemen to the roster and how he fit. The staff has shown him and his brother the benefits of staying inside the state and the path to the NFL.

Now, LSU has to use these next eight days to show its entire benefits package – on the field, in the classroom, NIL opportunities, etc. – in this current environment of college football is at least on par with the one that matters the most.

 

 

 

[TexasRenegade 2391]

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It is made up, but in this case it does have a definition- it’s when a player has a 5 star rating at each rating service. As opposed to only some of them or only the composite. 

I thought that was a concensus 5 star?

[Mitch Cumsteen 18517]

24 minutes ago, Getafix said:

While I feel LSU has made up some ground since the Bayou Splash and the medical event that followed with Jimmy Lindsey, there is still more work for Frank Wilson and co. that lies ahead over the next week.

Frank Wilson and co is the new Jimbo Fisher and co?
If I had the personality of Brian Kelly, I would let all of my assistants do the recruiting too.

[satyanash 14276]

14 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

I thought that was a concensus 5 star?

Consensus 5-star = rated 5* by a majority of the services.

Unanimous 5-star = rated 5* by every service.

Same system they use for All-Americans. 

[Tree Fidy 1196]

2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Consensus 5-star = rated 5* by a majority of the services.

Unanimous 5-star = rated 5* by every service.

Same system they use for All-Americans. 

@satyanash 5-star = Any recruit with a pulse that Texas is recruiting that commits to a rival school.

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

Does Texas or any other school recruit recruits without a pulse?

(excepting a minute or two for Matt Nader)

Edited August 24, 2023 by Pato del Muerto

[tokamak 6350]

Baker's film shows that he's got the total package. Great size/frame, quick feet, mean streak.

He's the most important recruit left on the board. We don't have a Kelvin Banks heir apparent on campus, don't have an obvious Plan B at OT in the 2024 recruiting class, and those guys don't show up much in the portal. As we've seen this offseason, having a badass locking down one tackle spot is so, so beneficial to the depth chart because it allows the coaches so much flexibility to fill out the other 4 spots.

Really interesting that positive news has picked up in the last few weeks with Baker, around the same time as the Simmons commitment. I haven't heard if Baker is a big NIL recruitment or not, but I wonder if we did something to really turn his head.

[ClubWhatever 12085]

8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Does Texas or any other school recruit recruits without a pulse?

(excepting a minute or two for Matt Nader)

[texifornia 56434]

6 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I haven't heard if Baker is a big NIL recruitment or not.

Yes

[GreenspointTexas 9556]

Hes apparently paying reporters to interview him. 

[tokamak 6350]

Something interested I just noticed. Here's the complete list of uncommited guys from the composite top 50:

6. David Stone

9. Micah Hudson

19. Terry Bussey

21. Brandon Baker

24. Ryan Wingo

25. Kobe Black

35. Aydin Breland

38. Dominick McKinley

39. Jordan Seaton

48. Guerby Lambert

 

So out of 10 guys left uncommitted in the top 50, we are heavily involved/leading for 4 of them, and at least nominally still recruiting 2 others. Coincidence? Intentional strategy by Sark?

[Tree Fidy 1196]

4 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Hes apparently paying reporters to interview him. 

 I don't think you said what you meant.  

[GreenspointTexas 9556]

10 minutes ago, Tree Fidy said:

 I don't think you said what you meant.  

That was the joke

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

That was the joke

[Getafix 28392]

 

 

From the LSU 247 Dominick McKinley thread.

 

 

 

 

[RollingPresidential 632]

The fact that they have to keep referencing "Wilson and company" and not like, Brian Kelly or the position coach, kind of gives away a big part of their weakness here, doesn't it?

[Mitch Cumsteen 18517]

1 hour ago, Getafix said:

- they are competitive with (their) NIL, but when oil money goes all in, hard to match.

There were soooooo many recruitments in the very recent past where if the other school involved was Georgia, Alabama or Ohio State you just knew it wasn't going to be Texas. Don't get me wrong, the previous coaching staffs repeatedly shooting themselves in the dick didn't help. But I hope those assholes in Athens and Tuscaloosa and Columbus are enjoying being on the other end of this dynamic as much as we did. Perhaps Baker would like to spend his spring break in Columbus prior to signing here?

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

If we land McKinley, between '23/'24 we'll have stolen 3 of the top 4 LA prospects from swamp aggy. That's crazy considering, but may become the new norm if they can't pull NIL together in a meaningful way. LSU will load up on in-state 4-15, and it will be open season for the top 3. 

[BabaYaga 15202]

32 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

 

 

 

[Redneck Mutha 7923]

29 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

If we land McKinley, between '23/'24 we'll have stolen 3 of the top 4 LA prospects from swamp aggy. That's crazy considering, but may become the new norm if they can't pull NIL together in a meaningful way. LSU will load up on in-state 4-15, and it will be open season for the top 3. 

[gmr548 16463]

The fact that they have to keep referencing "Wilson and company" and not like, Brian Kelly or the position coach, kind of gives away a big part of their weakness here, doesn't it?

Yes, but also, Bran Kelly makes Tom Herman look bubbly. Can’t imagine he’s a great closer anywhere that isn’t the LSU facilities.

[Napoleon 8596]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

Yes, but also, Bran Kelly makes Tom Herman look bubbly. Can’t imagine he’s a great closer anywhere that isn’t the LSU facilities.

👍 - Jerry S. likes this post

[TankedBevo 2482]

Yikes, my dude

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Does Texas or any other school recruit recruits without a pulse?

(excepting a minute or two for Matt Nader)

That Westlake OL we signed back in the day didn't have a pulse for a while.

[Plorant 798]

7 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

That Westlake OL we signed back in the day didn't have a pulse for a while.

[IDIOTsavant 8437]

19 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

That Westlake OL we signed back in the day didn't have a pulse for a while.

You mean Matt Nader?

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

Just now, IDIOTsavant said:

You mean Matt Nader?

Yes, I remember they revived him on the field.  I think it might have even been his parents, both Drs if I remember correctly, that did it with an AED machine.

[IDIOTsavant 8437]

Just now, JesusSweatDuck said:

Yes, I remember they revived him on the field.  I think it might have even been his parents, both Drs if I remember correctly, that did it with an AED machine.

Yeah, he was also named in the post you quoted.

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

2 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Yeah, he was also named in the post you quoted.

Was edited after I loaded the page.  So that wasn't there when I went to make the joke and I didn't see the change when I quoted.

[MAUFRAIS 6571]

That incident was really embarrassing for the handful of westlake parents who couldn’t raise their hand when they asked if there was a doctor in the house.

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

2 minutes ago, MAUFRAIS said:

That incident was really embarrassing for the handful of westlake parents who couldn’t raise their hand when they asked if there was a doctor in the house.

To be fair, the other 50% were lawyers that post on Surly