Texas Recruiting Notes 2024: Bags Don't Beat Bankrolls

[Codaxx 6270]

28 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

i just dont get the love for Stanford. Comparing their academics to Texas's and Im just not seeing it. Ok, fine they are in cool NorCal but is that any better than the ATX? and i mean WTF is a cardinal? private school vs public? no comparison. at the end of the day, i think Texas just comes out ahead of Stanford in every measurable. i deem this question of which is better, Texas or Stanford, resolved once and for all. thank you.

It was not meant to stir up the age old Stanford debate. He has visited OU, A&M, Texas, and OSU. That does not signal that academic rankings are very important to him. I believe academic talk, when someone visits Texas, ND, and Michigan.. I dont, when I see OU and OSU

Edited August 29, 2023 by Codaxx

[BurntOrange&White 41967]

I’ll wait for a Nahlin rage induced manifesto. 

[Mr. Drummond 2244]

4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It was not meant to stir up the age old Stanford debate. He has visited OU, A&M, Texas, and OSU. That does not signal that academic rankings are very important to him.  You would think Michigan would be the Big 10 visit, if it was about academics and football. 

Or...    he has more than just one criteria.       (driving distance, relationship with coaches, city size, CS department rankings).      Maybe he thinks Michigan has stupid helmets.   He is 17/18 years old.    What is most important to him probably changes daily.

 

[Codaxx 6270]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Drummond said:

Or...    he has more than just one criteria.       (driving distance, relationship with coaches, city size, CS department rankings).      Maybe he thinks Michigan has stupid helmets.   He is 17/18 years old.    What is most important to him probably changes daily.

 

that was the point. The academic portion is being over-played. 

[Tired Horn 836]

Geez Louise. This the Colin Simmons hysteria all over again, only somehow worse.

They're teenagers making the most significant choice of their lives. It's pointless to try and game that out. Let the coaching staff worry about it and just wait for the decision.

[Longhornlove 5217]

6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

that was the point. The academic portion is being over-played. 

It isn't being overplayed, it is a factor, not the factor. No one has ever said that he will choose Texas strictly for academics. People are making something out of nothing.

[ousux 5646]

Unreadable for me, cliffs?

[Scholz 12309]

49 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

...and i mean WTF is a cardinal? 

It's either a tree or a color, unsure.

[MontereyMX 955]

5 minutes ago, ousux said:

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Unreadable for me, cliffs?

He gone

[SydneyCarton 49520]

10 minutes ago, Tired Horn said:

Geez Louise. This the Colin Simmons hysteria all over again, only somehow worse.

They're teenagers making the most significant choice of their lives. It's pointless to try and game that out. Let the coaching staff worry about it and just wait for the decision.

I don't know what world in which you think this is even close to Simmons or worse, either the scenario or the "hysteria" on the boards. There's been about a dozen posts saying "WTF" on a kid that the staff questions his heart/motor desire to get to the NFL playing football. Versus a kid they had as a just have, the #1 player in a state where we haven't been getting the #1 player all to often, at the weakest position on the roster, where multiple people were upping the dollar amounts what seemed like damn near every 2 days before his commitment. The other player is Dominick McKinley.  

9 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

It isn't being overplayed, it is a factor, not the factor. No one has ever said that he will choose Texas strictly for academics. People are making something out of nothing.

The problem here is that people made something out of nothing when the kid said academics and thus pencilled him into the Texas class. That was something out of nothing.  

[ClubWhatever 12323]

13 minutes ago, Scholz said:

It's either a tree or a color, unsure.

Or a diddler

[theBigHen 381]

Would rather him end up at aggy if it isn’t texas. If his heart isn’t in the game, then good luck finding it in that program lol. Also, would rather them keep blindly allocating resources for the DLine and ignore everything else. CTJs proposed 11-0-0 formation sounds more realistic every day. 

[Codaxx 6270]

27 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

It isn't being overplayed, it is a factor, not the factor. No one has ever said that he will choose Texas strictly for academics. People are making something out of nothing.

Gerry has said over and over that academics are a big part of this recruitment.  I believe that means getting a degree is very important, not the quality of the degree. 

[SydneyCarton 49520]

8 minutes ago, theBigHen said:

Would rather him end up at aggy if it isn’t texas. If his heart isn’t in the game, then good luck finding it in that program lol. Also, would rather them keep blindly allocating resources for the DLine and ignore everything else. CTJs proposed 11-0-0 formation sounds more realistic every day. 

Pretty much my exact reaction as well. 

[closetojumping 65503]

4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Gerry has said over and over that academics are a big part of this recruitment.  I believe that means getting a degree is very important, not the quality of the degree. 

Let me help you and the board understand what is meant by folks referencing academics being important for this recruitment.

The mom was a multi-decade teacher in Lafayette. She's now in leadership for the teacher's union or association in those parts. Her kids have high academic requirements inside of their own household. The "academic" part of this is not just getting a degree, and it isn't something to be poo-poo'ed on this board.

What is getting all of you idiots spun up in the wrong direction is thinking that academics = Texas. There are some $9.95ers that have dealt with this recruitment who have also gotten twisted up in that logic. 

The problem is, and I'm negging anyone who thinks we need to hear about or see the actual numbers on this, ATM isn't perceived to be a significant falloff from Texas. The gap is between ATM and OU and LSU. Ohio State is a serious contender because of academics and Johnson, but distance is a major problem. The reason the recruit isn't likely going to LSU is due to academics. The reason the player isn'tlikely going to OU is due to academics. So it's apparently Texas or ATM, and ATM happens to be in a town roughly the size of Lafayette (perceived to be, at least, and no one needs the fucking MSA numbers on this either).

So then ask yourself, when NIL hasn't played a role in a 5 star recruitment, how many of those has Texas won in the trenches in the last 15 years? Not many. Hence people not feeling really confident anywhere around this one. 

[mwaadeeb 1370]

1 hour ago, Longhorn94 said:

i just dont get the love for Stanford. Comparing their academics to Texas's and Im just not seeing it. Ok, fine they are in cool NorCal but is that any better than the ATX? and i mean WTF is a cardinal? private school vs public? no comparison. at the end of the day, i think Texas just comes out ahead of Stanford in every measurable. i deem this question of which is better, Texas or Stanford, resolved once and for all. thank you.

Pull it together.

[Longhornlove 5217]

13 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Gerry has said over and over that academics are a big part of this recruitment.

I, just as everyone else on this board who pays attention, is fully aware of that. To be more specific, he said his mom was impressed with the increased graduation rates on the DL under Sark. Shocking that a mom would be interested in that I know. Also shocking that academics might be a factor in determining your higher education choices. Academics being overplayed is overplayed. He is going to play football on someone else's dime and momma wants him to graduate. 

[Newy25 7930]

4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Let me help you and the board understand what is meant by folks referencing academics being important for this recruitment.

The mom was a multi-decade teacher in Lafayette. She's now in leadership for the teacher's union or association in those parts. Her kids have high academic requirements inside of their own household. The "academic" part of this is not just getting a degree, and it isn't something to be poo-poo'ed on this board.

What is getting all of you idiots spun up in the wrong direction is thinking that academics = Texas. There are some $9.95ers that have dealt with this recruitment who have also gotten twisted up in that logic. 

The problem is, and I'm negging anyone who thinks we need to hear about or see the actual numbers on this, ATM isn't perceived to be a significant falloff from Texas. The gap is between ATM and OU and LSU. Ohio State is a serious contender because of academics and Johnson, but distance is a major problem. The reason the recruit isn't likely going to LSU is due to academics. The reason the player isn'tlikely going to OU is due to academics. So it's apparently Texas or ATM, and ATM happens to be in a town roughly the size of Lafayette (perceived to be, at least, and no one needs the fucking MSA numbers on this either).

So then ask yourself, when NIL hasn't played a role in a 5 star recruitment, how many of those has Texas won in the trenches in the last 15 years? Not many. Hence people not feeling really confident anywhere around this one. 

 

[Longhorn94 2501]

23 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Let me help you and the board understand what is meant by folks referencing academics being important for this recruitment.

The mom was a multi-decade teacher in Lafayette. She's now in leadership for the teacher's union or association in those parts. Her kids have high academic requirements inside of their own household. The "academic" part of this is not just getting a degree, and it isn't something to be poo-poo'ed on this board.

What is getting all of you idiots spun up in the wrong direction is thinking that academics = Texas. There are some $9.95ers that have dealt with this recruitment who have also gotten twisted up in that logic. 

The problem is, and I'm negging anyone who thinks we need to hear about or see the actual numbers on this, ATM isn't perceived to be a significant falloff from Texas. The gap is between ATM and OU and LSU. Ohio State is a serious contender because of academics and Johnson, but distance is a major problem. The reason the recruit isn't likely going to LSU is due to academics. The reason the player isn'tlikely going to OU is due to academics. So it's apparently Texas or ATM, and ATM happens to be in a town roughly the size of Lafayette (perceived to be, at least, and no one needs the fucking MSA numbers on this either).

So then ask yourself, when NIL hasn't played a role in a 5 star recruitment, how many of those has Texas won in the trenches in the last 15 years? Not many. Hence people not feeling really confident anywhere around this one. 

but what about Stanford? have they offered? and does the family understand the never ending academic battle between Stanford and Texas?

[Park Gothic 5376]

27 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Let me help you and the board understand what is meant by folks referencing academics being important for this recruitment.

The mom was a multi-decade teacher in Lafayette. She's now in leadership for the teacher's union or association in those parts. Her kids have high academic requirements inside of their own household. The "academic" part of this is not just getting a degree, and it isn't something to be poo-poo'ed on this board.

What is getting all of you idiots spun up in the wrong direction is thinking that academics = Texas. There are some $9.95ers that have dealt with this recruitment who have also gotten twisted up in that logic. 

The problem is, and I'm negging anyone who thinks we need to hear about or see the actual numbers on this, ATM isn't perceived to be a significant falloff from Texas. The gap is between ATM and OU and LSU. Ohio State is a serious contender because of academics and Johnson, but distance is a major problem. The reason the recruit isn't likely going to LSU is due to academics. The reason the player isn'tlikely going to OU is due to academics. So it's apparently Texas or ATM, and ATM happens to be in a town roughly the size of Lafayette (perceived to be, at least, and no one needs the fucking MSA numbers on this either).

So then ask yourself, when NIL hasn't played a role in a 5 star recruitment, how many of those has Texas won in the trenches in the last 15 years? Not many. Hence people not feeling really confident anywhere around this one. 

I hear what you're saying and I understand it. But I also don't like it, so I'm going to disregard it and complain about Aggie dropping bags again. 

[Hookem2147 22046]

Am I making this up or was McKinley the one with the questions about how much he loves football and the comparison was to Alfred Collins?

I'll choose to believe he will maximize if he chooses Texas and will quit the team and become a computer scientist at the age of 20 if he attends another school.

[texifornia 59033]

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

Am I making this up or was McKinley the one with the questions about how much he loves football and the comparison was to Alfred Collins?

I'll choose to believe he will maximize if he chooses Texas and will quit the team and become a computer scientist at the age of 20 if he attends another school.

Yup

[Elmer_Fudd 23028]

[Rokotosh 62]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Let me help you and the board understand what is meant by folks referencing academics being important for this recruitment.

The mom was a multi-decade teacher in Lafayette. She's now in leadership for the teacher's union or association in those parts. Her kids have high academic requirements inside of their own household. The "academic" part of this is not just getting a degree, and it isn't something to be poo-poo'ed on this board.

What is getting all of you idiots spun up in the wrong direction is thinking that academics = Texas. There are some $9.95ers that have dealt with this recruitment who have also gotten twisted up in that logic. 

The problem is, and I'm negging anyone who thinks we need to hear about or see the actual numbers on this, ATM isn't perceived to be a significant falloff from Texas. The gap is between ATM and OU and LSU. Ohio State is a serious contender because of academics and Johnson, but distance is a major problem. The reason the recruit isn't likely going to LSU is due to academics. The reason the player isn'tlikely going to OU is due to academics. So it's apparently Texas or ATM, and ATM happens to be in a town roughly the size of Lafayette (perceived to be, at least, and no one needs the fucking MSA numbers on this either).

So then ask yourself, when NIL hasn't played a role in a 5 star recruitment, how many of those has Texas won in the trenches in the last 15 years? Not many. Hence people not feeling really confident anywhere around this one. 

Am I wrong in reading this as A&M might essentially win this by default because they are the closest, pretty good academically, big-time school to Lafayette? All things else being equal do the elite DL talents just like Elijah Robinson more than Bo Davis?

Edited August 29, 2023 by Rokotosh

[RomaVicta 30610]

3 minutes ago, Rokotosh said:

Am I wrong in reading this as A&M might essentially win this by default because they are the closest, pretty good academically, big-time school to Lafayette? All things else being equal do the elite DL talents just like Elijah Robinson more than Bo Davis?

If you read the debate around here, you'd get the idea that recruits care about nice neighborhoods, good weather, and housing costs just like we aged bastards who write here. 

I only know what I read about this recruit around here, but if it's not money then he might choose a place for any number of reasons we've forgotten about. Maybe a bunch of pretty girls drifted by. Maybe it was the feel of a building. Who knows?

Teens go on feel not spreadsheets.

[tejas60 3573]

1 hour ago, Scholz said:

It's either a tree or a color, unsure.

or catholic. 

edit: @ClubWhatever's was way better.

Edited August 29, 2023 by tejas60

[derpyhorndog 2703]

If the kid himself is to be believed, which I'm more inclined to do given his distain for the recruiting circus, he recently told Sam Spiegelman that he decided on a school "about a month-plus ago" and currently feels even more confident in that decision. If CTJ and certain 9.95'ers are to believed, this isn't an NIL-focused recruitment, such that one wouldn't expect this to be a last minute bag battle with schools jockeying for position down to the wire.

With that backdrop, what schools other than Texas were under serious consideration about a month ago? OU and tOSU were squarely in the top group, but last I checked neither have since moved their campus closer to Lafayette, and OU hasn't skyrocketed up the USNWR rankings. A&M was viewed as a blip on the edge of the radar, largely written off in the "just a hat on the table" category with LSU. If this was a NIL-focused recruitment, the alleged A&M "resurgence" would mean a lot more.

The only school that checks the "location" and "academic" boxes AND was in the contending group when McKinley said he made his decision? Texas. 

All of the last-minute 9.95'er reporting is noise for clicks.

Edited August 29, 2023 by derpyhorndog
derp

[SimkinsMan 4555]

Rice is even closer and has even better academics. Checkmate, fakas!

Edited August 29, 2023 by SimkinsMan

[Bevo14 8468]

49 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

All of the last-minute 9.95'er reporting is noise for clicks.

Agreed. They're just giving aggy hope so they can get kicked in the nuts on Friday.

Edited August 29, 2023 by Bevo14

[Getafix 29460]

 

Hank South (Horns 247), on Dominick McKinley.  

 

Spoiler

 

Hank South (Horns 247), on Dominick McKinley.  

Was told Sark and McKinley's mother have been in contact today and yesterday, so any reports that Texas is out of it are just speculation. Checking in with several sources today, I have heard the Aggies buzz and I'm not discounting it. They're a serious contender for McKinley and one that we've seen several media lean towards here less than 72 hours out. I'm not there yet. I'm sticking with my Texas prediction for now. I think we're probably going to see some more twists and turns and we're probably going to see a healthy contingent of coaching staffs at Acadiana on Friday (the first day coaches can get back out on the road).

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 41967]

Hate to be the bearer of more bad news but it seems like the hurricane is going to hit Charleston 

[UTEE97 3937]

5 hours ago, FloridaHorn said:

Agreed, and she hasn't even learned to tie her own damn shoes yet.

I take that as a positive. She won't know how to find my wife's phone number.

[Getafix 29460]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Hate to be the bearer of more bad news but it seems like the hurricane is going to hit Charleston 

 

 

 

No worries.

Surly summers in Silsbee.

 

 

[D3zii 3950]

Damn,  one word of A&M dropping a bag and Y’all act like they stop making “bags” wen they mad A&M

 

[JesusSweatDuck 18126]

52 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Hate to be the bearer of more bad news but it seems like the hurricane is going to hit Charleston 

Send the hot refugees to my place

[UDontKnow 10572]

30 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Send the hot refugees to my place

Mighty kind offer of you Jesus, but I don't think the hotties are quite ready to be called back to your kingdom.

[Getafix 29460]

 

Aggie 247, on Dominick McKinley.

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-Ahead of Friday's decision, there have been a wide array of assessments about where McKinley is expected to land. A lot of this can probably be attributed to information being closely guarded in the recruitment and that leading to varying intel about the schools in the race. GigEm247 has spoken to several people over the past few days to get a read on where things stand. Texas A&M has been a perceived dark horse in this race but there has been increasing buzz about A&M early this week and the Aggies are believed to be a major player heading into Friday. With that said, McKinley and his family remain in contact with all the schools in the mix as of Tuesday and programs are continuing to make their final pitches ahead of Friday's decision. We do not believe he has told any school of a decision. Elijah Robinson has certainly done a great job in this recruitment though and his pedigree recruiting and developing defensive lineman are among the factors catching McKinley's attention. Oklahoma and Texas are making McKinley a big priority and safe to say hammering home the importance he holds to the future of their defensive line as they prepare to make the move into the SEC. This is likely to be one that goes down to the wire on Friday and is likely not settled with a few days to go. 

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[BurntOrange&White 41967]

Weird editing at the beginning of this video....probably nothing....probably something.....probably

 

 

 

Roughly 20 seconds in.

[futureman 22709]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Weird editing at the beginning of this video....probably nothing....probably something.....probably

 

 

 

Roughly 20 seconds in.

[6th Street 6693]

6 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

O

Happy to pitch in some $ for the LA DL. Where do I venmo 

[realgreggym 838]

I don't post on the recruiting board very often, but I am going to make a general statement about recruiting and academics. Poster tend to make comments based on their own personal experiences. I can give examples but will focus on academics.

Let's say that a highly recruited young man from a small east Texas town takes a visit to OU. He wants to major in business and is serious about getting a good education. He takes a trip to OU and the first thing that the OU coaches do is take him to the academic center where he sees more computers and other devices than he has seen in his entire small town. He sees dozens of tutors working with some of the football players and he is incredibly impressed. 

Then he meets some of the business professors and they knock his socks off with their business presentations. Then, the coaches take him to meet Michael Price. Sadly, he passed away a couple of years ago, but he was OU's Red McCombs. Price tells him how his OU business education helped him become the huge success that he became. The kid is in awe and comes home and raves about the OU education. Poster laugh at the kid because they are making assumptions based on their own personal experiences and not on the young man's recent experiences.

 

 

[Hank_Hill 20077]

1 hour ago, realgreggym said:

 

He takes a trip to OU and the first thing that the OU coaches do is take him to the academic center where he sees more computers and other devices than he has seen in his entire small town. He sees dozens of tutors working with some of the football players and he is incredibly impressed. 

 

 

Like, meth pipes?

[Enchubben 5600]

5 hours ago, 6th Street said:

O

Happy to pitch in some $ for the LA DL. Where do I venmo 

Texas One Fund

[closetohumping 17825]

5 hours ago, realgreggym said:

I don't post on the recruiting board very often, but I am going to make a general statement about recruiting and academics. Poster tend to make comments based on their own personal experiences. I can give examples but will focus on academics.

Let's say that a highly recruited young man from a small east Texas town takes a visit to OU. He wants to major in business and is serious about getting a good education. He takes a trip to OU and the first thing that the OU coaches do is take him to the academic center where he sees more computers and other devices than he has seen in his entire small town. He sees dozens of tutors working with some of the football players and he is incredibly impressed. 

Then he meets some of the business professors and they knock his socks off with their business presentations. Then, the coaches take him to meet Michael Price. Sadly, he passed away a couple of years ago, but he was OU's Red McCombs. Price tells him how his OU business education helped him become the huge success that he became. The kid is in awe and comes home and raves about the OU education. Poster laugh at the kid because they are making assumptions based on their own personal experiences and not on the young man's recent experiences.

 

 

And during the visit a degree hits him in the head.    They pass them out like jolly ranchers out there 

[Dbeasy 15612]

5 hours ago, realgreggym said:

I don't post on the recruiting board very often, 

 

 

And we are all very grateful for that. 

[HenryJames 67441]

5 hours ago, realgreggym said:

Then, the coaches take him to meet Michael Price. Sadly, he passed away a couple of years ago

What this post presupposes is…maybe he didn’t?

[NoName 17166]

16 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

i just dont get the love for Stanford. Comparing their academics to Texas's and Im just not seeing it. Ok, fine they are in cool NorCal but is that any better than the ATX? and i mean WTF is a cardinal? private school vs public? no comparison. at the end of the day, i think Texas just comes out ahead of Stanford in every measurable. i deem this question of which is better, Texas or Stanford, resolved once and for all. thank you.

[South Austin 53235]

16 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

i just dont get the love for Stanford. Comparing their academics to Texas's and Im just not seeing it. Ok, fine they are in cool NorCal but is that any better than the ATX? and i mean WTF is a cardinal? private school vs public? no comparison. at the end of the day, i think Texas just comes out ahead of Stanford in every measurable. i deem this question of which is better, Texas or Stanford, resolved once and for all. thank you.

Stanford and Southwest Texas State were my safety schools.

Edited August 30, 2023 by South Austin

[Davis Lane 6014]

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

I’ve noticed Gerry is now putting the order as a&m first and ut second when talking about McKinley and which schools it is down to. I am guessing the whole surge in a&m seems is manufactured in order to pump up the win against them for a couple reasons.

1. Like Gerry has said, most kids have already decided when they set their dates and a&m wasn’t being mentioned when he set his decision date.

2. Once you set that date it puts a target on schools to ramp up their pressure and if this was an NIL recruitment then I would weigh that late push pressure more, but I believe CTJ that it isn’t, which means a late push wouldn’t present any new info vs when he made his mind up and set his date.

So it seems the most likely explanation is this a&m hype is for show, which I like bc fuck them.