Texas Recruiting Notes 2024: Bags Don't Beat Bankrolls

[LCHorn 2751]

2 hours ago, NoName said:

i have massive respect for those guys doing what basically nobody else is doing at other Texas schools and stepping all the way up NIL wise to pay for a huge % of his schools NIL

I'm not going to out them publicly but there's three guys in Houston responsible for the vast majority of our NIL fundraising, at least to players that don't have broader appeal (Worthy, for example.  Guys like Bijan are NIL earners without needing help). 

 

[bad_teammate 13564]

28 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I'm not going to out them publicly but there's three guys in Houston responsible for the vast majority of our NIL fundraising, at least to players that don't have broader appeal (Worthy, for example.  Guys like Bijan are NIL earners without needing help). 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10808]

5 hours ago, Thiefery said:

Don't tase me bro ...but

 

Anwar and Ketch are saying that Hudson might be back in play from their 2 different sources

Current break down of 5*s for 2024 (no Pac12 etc)-

Big10:    5 - all Ohio St

Ind:    1 - Notre Dame

SEC:  20 - everybody (almost)

Big16:  1 - Hudson

 

[Getafix 29460]

 

Associated Press mid-season All-America team:

 

 

And ... 

 

 

AP has two All-America teams, and list two DTs per team ... to have both of the DTs on the second team from Texas is quite an accomplishment.

 

 

[Mother mopar 3388]

Don't tase me bro ...but
 
Anwar and Ketch are saying that Hudson might be back in play from their 2 different sources

IT, Gerry/Eric said that the ship has sailed on today's afternoon live stream. my words not theirs but you get the drift.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10808]

9 minutes ago, Mother mopar said:

6 hours ago, Thiefery said:

Don't tase me bro ...but
 
Anwar and Ketch are saying that Hudson might be back in play from their 2 different sources

IT, Gerry/Eric said that the ship has sailed on today's afternoon live stream. my words not theirs but you get the drift.

Maybe he's in play... just not for us

[ClubWhatever 12320]

Seems like once you jerk Sark around you are done being recruited.  Very Mackish.  Not that I think it's a bad idea - except for with truly exceptional talents, which Hudson is not.

[MontereyMX 954]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

uh excuse me muthafucka, you do not have the rights to my NIL! 

[HtownHorn 15235]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Would you say they have a plethora of NIL?

[Funk Doctor Spock 13286]

2 hours ago, LCHorn said:

I'm not going to out them publicly but there's three guys in Houston responsible for the vast majority of our NIL fundraising, at least to players that don't have broader appeal (Worthy, for example.  Guys like Bijan are NIL earners without needing help). 

 

You can name them here. This is a safe space 

[bad_teammate 13564]

Wherever there are 5-stars... you will find us.

Wherever there are roster holes... we'll be there!

LINE!?

[Vertigo 20500]

Oh look, its male athlete NIL.

[Pato del Muerto 53557]

For some, ou is their el guapo 

[Jebus 1341]

15 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Oh look, its male athlete NIL.

you can tell by its little balls

[IDIOTsavant 8689]

56 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

You can name them here. This is a safe space 

Spoiler

Lucky Day, Dusty Bottoms, and Little Neddie Neederlander

 

[billfromlaketravis 11843]

We’ll be fine without Wingo, but need to need to find AD Mitchell in the portal. Easier said than done, but we’ve done it before. 

[cmontexas 3377]

Wesco and Hudson are putting on an absolute show tonight 

20-14 Midlothian at the half both 5* WRs have 2 touchdowns

[futureman 22707]

8 hours ago, Creasy Bear said:

I was at an industry event about a month ago where Cody Campbell spoke.  At the end, they opened up for questions.  Only 1 question was asked "What do you think of Tech football this year?"  He laughed and said "Best 1-3 team in the nation".  Seems like a good guy. 

is he ever gonna get cross canadian ragweed back together?

[D3zii 3947]

26 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Wesco and Hudson are putting on an absolute show tonight 

20-14 Midlothian at the half both 5* WRs have 2 touchdowns

Weren’t supposedly back talking to Wesco???

Edited October 21, 2023 by D3zii

[campcrunk 2551]

10 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Weren’t supposedly back talking to Wesco???

I definitely wouldn't mind if they were in Wesco's ear, especially with Clemson seemingly fading - particularly on offense. I don't think he's in the same tier as Wingo but I'd still take him in a heartbeat

[futureman 22707]

wingo is overrated as hell.  yes he’s good in high school but he’ll get fat in college.  he’s already too big.  in two years he’s 230 lbs and in the portal trying to catch on as a tight end at kentucky wesleyan. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13286]

But for real, worrying about wr is pretty dumb with the portal hemorrhaging WR's. We got Neyor, who I'm sure would have been a bad ass had he not torn his ACL, we got Mitchell who is as advertised, and there will be more. Even that Singer kid who ended up at USC looks good, as we passed on him for AD. So if AD didn't hit the portal it's not like we weren't going to find another dude. I just hope this next one learns how to block. 

[RomaVicta 30609]

8 hours ago, Spider2YBanana said:

worrying about wr is pretty dumb with the portal hemorrhaging WR's.

Bird in the hand and all of that. A first rate WR today is worth more than prospective WRs in the portal.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13436]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Bird in the hand and all of that. A first rate WR today is worth more than prospective WRs in the portal.

Yes, because high school stars always become college stars and proven college players still have to prove themselves… wait..

[RockyMountainHighHorn 929]

Come on. Wingo is going to be a stud 

[tokamak 6687]

Feels like we say the exact same thing about 5* HS WR every year for like the last 15 years now. "No big deal, there's always the portal/next year". Would be kinda nice to actually land them sometimes.

Reviewing the last few years of HS WR recruiting to confirm/disprove my gut feeling:

• 2023 - pretty good. Landed Cook and Moore, missed on Hale (backed off supposedly) and Greathouse.
• 2022 - whiffed on Stewart, Burton, Coleman?? Commits were Brenen Thompson and Savion Red
• 2021 - missed on Earle. Landed X super late and with some luck. Missed on Quay Davis who appears to have promptly fallen off the face of the Earth. Other commits were Jaden Alexis (who?), Keithron Lee (who?), and Casey Cain. Yikes.
• 2020 - missed on JSN (ouch), Demas (sorta) and Quentin Johnson (ouch). Commits were Kelvontay Dixon, Omeire, and Dajon Harrison.
• 2019 - missed on Wilson, Dylan Wright, Wease (I think?), and Higgins (I think?). Missed/didn't miss/missed on the Bru McCoy saga. Commits were Whittington (yay), Jake Smith, Marcus Washington, and Kennedy Lewis.
• 2018 - missed Waddle and Rondale Moore. Commits were Eagles, Josh Moore, Woodard
• 2017 - huge year for WR. We were in on all of Reagor, Tyrell Shavers, Lamb, Netherly, Omar Manning, and Rambo and landed none of them. Commits were Damion Miller and Jordan Pouncey

So out of the 6 classes prior to 2023, we landed two HS WR worth a damn (X, Whittington), one of whom kinda fell into our lap. Red is a RB now. Promising early returns on Cook and Moore. A lot of this ain't fair because it was previous staffs.

My concern is that the portal is always going to be a gamble. It's worked out well so far but I don't see how you can count on landing a contributor every year. Really, really would like to see us land one of Ryan Williams or Dakorien Moore next year (or maybe this year???) I want to move on from the days of "Waddle/Wilson/JSN were never coming to Texas anyway."

[RichUT 1936]

What all that says to me is that we’ve had a lot of suspect evals and/or takes. It also adds strength to the argument that taking portal players that have already put down film at the D1 level isn’t a bad option in the slightest.

[RomaVicta 30609]

1 hour ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Yes, because high school stars always become college stars and proven college players still have to prove themselves… wait..

Why bother recruiting receivers at all, then? Maybe the whole recruiting thing is stupid except for linemen who need to develop.

Great retort!

[TommyGufano 6025]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Why bother recruiting receivers at all, then? Maybe the whole recruiting thing is stupid except for linemen who need to develop.

Great retort!

I don't think he said recruiting receivers is a waste of resources. Just took issue with characterization of any HS prospect as a "bird in the hand" when compared to someone who has played at CFB level. 

Relax!

[Bevo 13903]

2 hours ago, tokamak said:

2020 - missed on JSN (ouch), Demas (sorta) and Quentin Johnson (ouch). Commits were Kelvontay Dixon, Omeire, and Dajon Harrison.

Epic fail

[RomaVicta 30609]

4 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

I don't think he said recruiting receivers is a waste of resources. Just took issue with characterization of any HS prospect as a "bird in the hand" when compared to someone who has played at CFB level. 

Relax!

I hadn't ceased relaxing. I stand by my point and understood his.

[D3zii 3947]

Some pretty wild takes here. 
I guess cause we seem to can’t recruit WR at a high level, we should just worry about the portal.  
pretty stupid take if you ask me 

[BurntOrange&White 41961]

On 10/20/2023 at 2:53 PM, LCHorn said:

I'm not going to out them publicly but there's three guys in Houston responsible for the vast majority of our NIL fundraising, at least to players that don't have broader appeal (Worthy, for example.  Guys like Bijan are NIL earners without needing help). 

 

I live in San Antonio. 🤣

[LCHorn 2751]

21 hours ago, tokamak said:

I want to move on from the days of "Waddle/Wilson/JSN were never coming to Texas anyway."

I don’t think you can really compare recruiting pre-NIL to today; the dynamics are just too different.  

[Bevo 13903]

1 hour ago, LCHorn said:

I don’t think you can really compare recruiting pre-NIL to today; the dynamics are just too different.  

$80K is still $80K whether it is NIL or bag. If we don't meet the going rate, they aren't going to sign here.

[Mac8111 2139]

Feels like we say the exact same thing about 5* HS WR every year for like the last 15 years now. "No big deal, there's always the portal/next year". Would be kinda nice to actually land them sometimes.

And honestly , several of our more dynamic WR playmakers over the past 12 years literally fell into our lap due to other schools fucking up. Worthy and Duvernay are two that come to mind immediately.

[Junior Bonner 6593]

As much as I enjoy wallowing in pity over past recruiting failures, perhaps we should limit the discussion to Sark’s efforts. The failures of Herman and Strong have little to do with this staff’s recruiting. Dwelling on them is nothing more than fruitless self-flagellation. 

I would have loved to get Wingo, but Sark has signed big time HS recruits (Worthy, Cook) and proven adept in the portal (Neyor, Mitchell). I’m not going to start clutching my pearls because one (admittedly excellent) kid chose his home state school. Fuck that.

Edited October 22, 2023 by Junior Bonner

[TXRed 3585]

 

[billfromlaketravis 11843]

Guys, Robinson is going to be the best two way player since Travis Hunter. I’m not worried about WR. 

[Ben Ficus 148]

15 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

Dwelling on them is nothing more than fruitless self-flagellation. 

And if fruitless self-flagellation is all you're here for, then, by Jove, you've come to the right place.  

[Jebus 1341]

51 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

wallowing in fruitless self-flagellation

Proposal for new board motto

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20943]

1 hour ago, Jebus said:

Proposal for new board motto

I am adopting it for my personal motto. It will appear on all of my posts from here on out. 


                                                    Wallowing in self-flagellation 


Just kidding, but I agree it should be the Surly motto

[D3zii 3947]

Honestly Wingo might be the least of our worries. 
 

Black

Filsaime 

Solomon Williams

Mack

Gipson 

 

need to be the biggest priorities after what we’ve seen lately. 
 

Bad part about that though if our coaching/schematics don’t get better none of this even matters. 

[HtownHorn 15235]

10 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Honestly Wingo might be the least of our worries. 
 

Black

Filsaime 

Solomon Williams

Mack

Gipson 

 

need to be the biggest priorities after what we’ve seen lately. 
 

Bad part about that though if our coaching/schematics don’t get better none of this even matters. 

Gipson's injury should remove him off any board. He's likely never going to be the same player he was a year ago.

[MisterP 127]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Gipson's injury should remove him off any board. He's likely never going to be the same player he was a year ago.

Tough break (pun intended) for the kid. It's one thing to get hurt in college and miss your NFL shot while retaining the benefits of a good degree that still sets you up for life. It really is another thing to have college dreams snapped from you by an injury in high school. Totally changes your life trajectory. 

[ClubWhatever 12320]

So what's his injury?  You guys are talking like he had an amputation?

[Bevo 13903]

9 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

So what's his injury?  You guys are talking like he had an amputation?

I thought someone said achilles, but not sure.

[chad.ihrig 611]

So what's his injury?  You guys are talking like he had an amputation?

[Teryor 5014]

Wiltfong: Oregon now top 2 for Solomon Williams (Who is the other in the top 2? Well he doesn't answer that)

Spoiler

Tampa (Fla.) Carrollwood Day Top247 edge rusher Solomon Williams took his official visit to Oregon over the weekend where he saw the ninth-ranked Ducks defeat Washington State 38-24.

Williams loved his latest experience in Eugene after a great trip back in July.

“Weekend went great!” Williams told 247Sports. “Really enjoyed myself at Oregon. Highlights were seeing the young edge rushers play great and seeing myself in that position!

“Really enjoyed myself.”

Oregon is battling the likes of Alabama, Clemson, Texas and Texas A&M.

“Oregon is definitely top two after this trip, truly opened my eyes,” Williams said.

“What really caught my eye this weekend was the young edge rushesr having a huge impact on the game.”

Williams credits that to the Ducks staff.

“What would be a great fit for myself would be just the knowledge Coach (Dan) Lanning and Coach Tosh (Lupoi) both have at the position being gurus at the position,” Williams said, adding he loves the talent level within the program.

“Also the development playing against one of the best o-lines in the country.”

Williams has already taken officials to Texas and Texas A&M this fall and is expected back at Alabama for the LSU game before deciding.

247Sports ranks Williams as the nation’s No. 10 edge rusher and No. 150 prospect overall. Oregon would love to add him to a class ranked No. 9 nationally.

Would be fun for Aggy to lose out on him at least

[D3zii 3947]

17 minutes ago, Teryor said:

Wiltfong: Oregon now top 2 for Solomon Williams (Who is the other in the top 2? Well he doesn't answer that)

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Tampa (Fla.) Carrollwood Day Top247 edge rusher Solomon Williams took his official visit to Oregon over the weekend where he saw the ninth-ranked Ducks defeat Washington State 38-24.

Williams loved his latest experience in Eugene after a great trip back in July.

“Weekend went great!” Williams told 247Sports. “Really enjoyed myself at Oregon. Highlights were seeing the young edge rushers play great and seeing myself in that position!

“Really enjoyed myself.”

Oregon is battling the likes of Alabama, Clemson, Texas and Texas A&M.

“Oregon is definitely top two after this trip, truly opened my eyes,” Williams said.

“What really caught my eye this weekend was the young edge rushesr having a huge impact on the game.”

Williams credits that to the Ducks staff.

“What would be a great fit for myself would be just the knowledge Coach (Dan) Lanning and Coach Tosh (Lupoi) both have at the position being gurus at the position,” Williams said, adding he loves the talent level within the program.

“Also the development playing against one of the best o-lines in the country.”

Williams has already taken officials to Texas and Texas A&M this fall and is expected back at Alabama for the LSU game before deciding.

247Sports ranks Williams as the nation’s No. 10 edge rusher and No. 150 prospect overall. Oregon would love to add him to a class ranked No. 9 nationally.

Would be fun for Aggy to lose out on him at least

Damn so now no Williams either???