Texas Recruiting Notes 2024: Bags Don't Beat Bankrolls

[closetojumping 62568]

56 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Could he cover you or @SydneyCarton?

The guy was a trash player. Just a Muschamp safety blanket and mostly worthless outside of being able to set up personnel alignments. Most good 4A-6A WRs in Texas could eat that idiot's lunch. So, yes, I could have. I don't think Sydney has ever even been tackled in his life, much less had to go over the middle. 

Gideon sets me off these not just because he was a shit player who contributed to costing Texas a shot at the title in 2008, but now also because he's imposing his same stupid logic that he learned through Muschamp onto this team. Crawford and Taaffe have no business on the field against most match-ups. Crawford shouldn't be playing unless it's special teams or LB. Taaffe shouldn't be on the field unless Williams or Catalon is out there with him. Instead we see Crawford and Taaffe paired together for a third of the snaps each game, which also happen to be on drives where teams like BYU and Wyoming can't be pushed off the field. 

[NoName 16351]

13 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The guy was a trash player. Just a Muschamp safety blanket and mostly worthless outside of being able to set up personnel alignments. Most good 4A-6A WRs in Texas could eat that idiot's lunch. So, yes, I could have. I don't think Sydney has ever even been tackled in his life, much less had to go over the middle. 

Gideon sets me off these not just because he was a shit player who contributed to costing Texas a shot at the title in 2008, but now also because he's imposing his same stupid logic that he learned through Muschamp onto this team. Crawford and Taaffe have no business on the field against most match-ups. Crawford shouldn't be playing unless it's special teams or LB. Taaffe shouldn't be on the field unless Williams or Catalon is out there with him. Instead we see Crawford and Taaffe paired together for a third of the snaps each game, which also happen to be on drives where teams like BYU and Wyoming can't be pushed off the field. 

part of the reason those dudes have played in the last few games is because Catalon hasn't - both vs U of H and BYU.

i assume you are calling for more snaps for Derek Williams but who else? the only guys in the room outside of Bugg, Catalon, Williams are Crawford, Taaffe and 2 dudes who i assume will be portaling out at the end of the year (BJ Allen hasn't played in a game since Rice. Hyphen hasn't played in a single game this year)

with how many rotations they are playing at CB, i kind of question why they haven't tried to shift anyone over to safety to at least have some more cross training/guys ready.

it absolutely feels like we are going to see some portal movement at safety this offseason. guessing thompson comes back, catalon probably is NFL bound?, another year of williams would be great. did i imagine that Jordan or McDonald were talked about as potentially being safties vs CBs when they were recruited?

Aeryn Hampton sure seems to be on the Jaydon Blue "he may make it to campus, he may not, he may play a snap, he may not, he may stay with the program and he may pull a Cecil Cherry at any time" career path. i think he is more of a CB vs a safety? i also thought that JJR was a safety but maybe not. Robinson was listed as a safety by 247 but is a "DB" on the depth chart and hasn't played in a single game yet.

the participation report just let me know that 1) there is someone on the team named Tannehill Love 2) he plays LB and 3) he played vs Rice

 

[TXRed 3247]

 

5 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Raymond is going to be a problem from Charlotte to San Antonio as long as he’s working. I wish he’d take a G5 HC gig to give us a break for a few years ala the Frank Wilson Era at UTSA.

I wish Sark would dump Gideon and go after Raymond again, now that he’s been clear of all the LSU shit for a while. 

[HenryJames 66038]

I'd rather go after someone who can align the secondary with the front.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

8 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

I'd rather go after someone who can align the secondary with the front.

Jimmy Lake is rested and ready

[Bevo 13570]

44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Sydney has ever even been tackled in his life, much less had to go over the middle. 

 

Isn't he like 6'5"? I get the feeling he is more of a goal post.

[SydneyCarton 48067]

6 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

Jimmy Lake is rested and ready

I'm not sure PK is going to be eager to bring back a guy that passed him up at Washington. Maybe he would be fine with it.

5 minutes ago, Bevo said:

 

Isn't he like 6'5"? I get the feeling he is more of a goal post.

I'm 6'3. More of a First Down Marker, imo. 

[texifornia 56870]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm not sure PK is going to be eager to bring back a guy that passed him up at Washington. Maybe he would be fine with it.

I'm 6'3. More of a First Down Marker, imo. 

I heard Lake was kind of a prick about it, as well. Doubt that band is getting back together.

[Hiphopopotamos 20869]

Rehashing old shit - but here's an article from when it happened explaining Kwiatkowski giving up play-calling to keep Lake on staff.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/the-uw-huskies-defense-is-in-the-midst-of-a-power-shakeup-heres-why-jimmy-lake-and-pete-kwiatkowski-made-it-happen-and-how-they-plan-to-make-it-work/

[closetojumping 62568]

35 minutes ago, NoName said:

part of the reason those dudes have played in the last few games is because Catalon hasn't - both vs U of H and BYU.

i assume you are calling for more snaps for Derek Williams but who else? the only guys in the room outside of Bugg, Catalon, Williams are Crawford, Taaffe and 2 dudes who i assume will be portaling out at the end of the year (BJ Allen hasn't played in a game since Rice. Hyphen hasn't played in a single game this year)

with how many rotations they are playing at CB, i kind of question why they haven't tried to shift anyone over to safety to at least have some more cross training/guys ready.

it absolutely feels like we are going to see some portal movement at safety this offseason. guessing thompson comes back, catalon probably is NFL bound?, another year of williams would be great. did i imagine that Jordan or McDonald were talked about as potentially being safties vs CBs when they were recruited?

Aeryn Hampton sure seems to be on the Jaydon Blue "he may make it to campus, he may not, he may play a snap, he may not, he may stay with the program and he may pull a Cecil Cherry at any time" career path. i think he is more of a CB vs a safety? i also thought that JJR was a safety but maybe not. Robinson was listed as a safety by 247 but is a "DB" on the depth chart and hasn't played in a single game yet.

the participation report just let me know that 1) there is someone on the team named Tannehill Love 2) he plays LB and 3) he played vs Rice

 

You're not required to think as rigidly about personnel as the meatheaded moron calling the shots at safety. If there was high functioning leadership on the defensive side of the ball, we'd be seeing other people in the rotation. Jordan, Guilbeau and Barron can all play safety. Roberson and McDonald should be getting looks. If the secondary is net-better with Barron at safety and Guilbeau at NB, then fucking play that combo. 

Taaffe is a more likeable, slightly more athletic version of Blake Gideon. He's just not athletic enough to be out there against quality competition. Crawford would be a bad safety on a high school team as a 20-something year old man right now. He has no business being on the field. Texas could not do worse than that combo. 

It's not complicated. Football coaches crave predictability and comfort and they tend to favor players who remind them of themselves. They're often egotistical and below average intelligence. Blake Gideon checks all of those boxes. Kwiatkowski clearly isn't pushing him to solve anything. ]

They're just trotting out there whoever Gideon is feeling at that moment and the consequences are measurable on a weekly basis. The only thing I'm hopeful about with safety is that Williams continues to get more and more snaps until he's a fixture back there. 

[Ricky's one-hitter 9084]

15 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Lake was kind of a prick

I'm not advocating for replacing Gideon with Lake, but of all the reasons not to hire him, this is the one he shares with every other cfb coach. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm not sure PK is going to be eager to bring back a guy that passed him up at Washington. Maybe he would be fine with it.

I'm 6'3. More of a First Down Marker, imo. 

Would you say you have deceptive speed and bring your lunch pail to work everyday? 

[HtownHorn 14671]

Lake is currently the assistant HC for the Rams, not sure what coaching he's actually doing but there are probably other safety coaches available that can upgrade from Gideon without the off-field bullshit that comes with Lake.

[FreeHorn 1307]

I doubt it happens because the optics of Texas firing Blake Gideon, but Jimmy Lake was an outstanding coach who put plenty of people in the league. He also knows how to match up the secondary with PK front 7. PK and Lake honestly need each other cause they were both at their best when they had each other. 

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Lake is currently the assistant HC for the Rams, not sure what coaching he's actually doing but there are probably other safety coaches available that can upgrade from Gideon without the off-field bullshit that comes with Lake.

I’d personally like to hire another Cornerback coach and move Joseph over to safety. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

14 minutes ago, FreeHorn said:

I’d personally like to hire another Cornerback coach and move Joseph over to safety. 

Bingo....

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

1 hour ago, FreeHorn said:

I doubt it happens because the optics of Texas firing Blake Gideon, but Jimmy Lake was an outstanding coach who put plenty of people in the league. He also knows how to match up the secondary with PK front 7. PK and Lake honestly need each other cause they were both at their best when they had each other. 

I’d personally like to hire another Cornerback coach and move Joseph over to safety. 

Raymond would be the dream hire in that scenario. It would always require a soft landing for Gideon. I just don't see it happening. 

[RabidM 2666]

Sark will need a lot of goodwill from our pearl clutching admin to hire Raymond... better win the conference. 

Also, would Raymond want the job? UF is one of the best DB gigs in the country. I guess it might depend on how he feels about Napier and his future. Their next coach probably tries to retain Raymond though. 

[billfromlaketravis 11448]

6 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Sark will need a lot of goodwill from our pearl clutching admin to hire Raymond... better win the conference. 

Also, would Raymond want the job? UF is one of the best DB gigs in the country. I guess it might depend on how he feels about Napier and his future. Their next coach probably tries to retain Raymond though. 

Bo got into a bit of trouble at Alabama, and yet he works for Texas. 

Raymond to Texas would be a total mercenary hire. I don't think he has any connections on the staff. If Gideon needs to go, I'd be fine with PK hiring a safeties coach that knows his system. 

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

18 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Pistols at dawn should settle this one.

Exactly. We shoot Gideon with pistols at dawn and then hire Raymond.

 

 

[Gut Wagon 8065]

18 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Pistols at dawn should settle this one.

[Levi 2585]

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You're not required to think as rigidly about personnel as the meatheaded moron calling the shots at safety. If there was high functioning leadership on the defensive side of the ball, we'd be seeing other people in the rotation. Jordan, Guilbeau and Barron can all play safety. Roberson and McDonald should be getting looks. If the secondary is net-better with Barron at safety and Guilbeau at NB, then fucking play that combo. 

Taaffe is a more likeable, slightly more athletic version of Blake Gideon. He's just not athletic enough to be out there against quality competition. Crawford would be a bad safety on a high school team as a 20-something year old man right now. He has no business being on the field. Texas could not do worse than that combo. 

It's not complicated. Football coaches crave predictability and comfort and they tend to favor players who remind them of themselves. They're often egotistical and below average intelligence. Blake Gideon checks all of those boxes. Kwiatkowski clearly isn't pushing him to solve anything. ]

They're just trotting out there whoever Gideon is feeling at that moment and the consequences are measurable on a weekly basis. The only thing I'm hopeful about with safety is that Williams continues to get more and more snaps until he's a fixture back there. 

For the BYU game the snap count per Scipio was Williams 46, Taaffe 36, Thompson 31, and Crawford 21. Crawford being the lowest and still too many snaps. He is easily one of the most athletic guys on the team but all that goes out the window when you have no clue what to do when the ball is snapped. Taaffe is probably the smartest safety we have at the moment and the coaches seem to be going with the thought that it’s easier to game plan with a guy that knows what to do rather than a more athletic guy who doesn’t. Fair. 

What I don’t understand is those guys have been here for a decent amount of time and the staff knows exactly who they are at this point. They went and got Catalon which was good but he’s made of glass. Considering all that, why would you not cross train the guys you mentioned, Jordan, Barron, and Guilbeau during the spring/summer? It seems straight forward in what should have been done.

To you point about rotation, I also don’t understand what they’re doing. Choate brought along Hill slowly with a couple of hiccups along the way but now he’s all over the place. His snap count compared to Gbenda is where it should be and will only grow. Joseph seemed to get the memo with MM as well, tho Watts getting injured might have helped too. Wtf is Gideon thinking with Crawford should be getting 20 snaps? Is it all on Gideon or is some of the blame fall on PK as well? 
 

[Frank Drebin 5661]

Gideon is an albatross on this program.  He was as a player.  He is as a coach.

[mwaadeeb 1209]

5 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Gideon is an albatross on this program.  He was as a player.  He is as a coach.

[ClubWhatever 12120]

17 minutes ago, Levi said:

Is it all on Gideon or is some of the blame fall on PK as well? 

Does PK seem like the kind of personality who is going to tell position coaches who to play?  He doesn't to me.  I think he's a "coordinator" in about the loosest sense of the term.  He calls the plays and that's about it.  Given that, Sark would need to step in and make the right thing happen.  

Edited November 3, 2023 by ClubWhatever

[Red Five 40847]

20 minutes ago, Levi said:

What I don’t understand is those guys have been here for a decent amount of time and the staff knows exactly who they are at this point. They went and got Catalon which was good but he’s made of glass. Considering all that, why would you not cross train the guys you mentioned, Jordan, Barron, and Guilbeau during the spring/summer? It seems straight forward in what should have been done.

Williams/Barron at safety with either Jordan or Gilbeau at star sounds pretty good right about now. 

[ousux 5597]

part of the reason those dudes have played in the last few games is because Catalon hasn't - both vs U of H and BYU.
i assume you are calling for more snaps for Derek Williams but who else? the only guys in the room outside of Bugg, Catalon, Williams are Crawford, Taaffe and 2 dudes who i assume will be portaling out at the end of the year (BJ Allen hasn't played in a game since Rice. Hyphen hasn't played in a single game this year)
with how many rotations they are playing at CB, i kind of question why they haven't tried to shift anyone over to safety to at least have some more cross training/guys ready.
it absolutely feels like we are going to see some portal movement at safety this offseason. guessing thompson comes back, catalon probably is NFL bound?, another year of williams would be great. did i imagine that Jordan or McDonald were talked about as potentially being safties vs CBs when they were recruited?
Aeryn Hampton sure seems to be on the Jaydon Blue "he may make it to campus, he may not, he may play a snap, he may not, he may stay with the program and he may pull a Cecil Cherry at any time" career path. i think he is more of a CB vs a safety? i also thought that JJR was a safety but maybe not. Robinson was listed as a safety by 247 but is a "DB" on the depth chart and hasn't played in a single game yet.

the participation report just let me know that 1) there is someone on the team named Tannehill Love 2) he plays LB and 3) he played vs Rice
 

Sounds like an aggy fan club, don't remember seeing him on the field...and if he was he didn't do anything notable.

[ousux 5597]

Sark will need a lot of goodwill from our pearl clutching admin to hire Raymond... better win the conference. 
Also, would Raymond want the job? UF is one of the best DB gigs in the country. I guess it might depend on how he feels about Napier and his future. Their next coach probably tries to retain Raymond though. 

Sunbelt Billy isn't long for the SEC unless Flardah finishes the season really strong. Any of his assistants should be polishing up their resumes soon.

[Red Five 40847]

9 minutes ago, ousux said:

6 hours ago, NoName said:

part of the reason those dudes have played in the last few games is because Catalon hasn't - both vs U of H and BYU.
i assume you are calling for more snaps for Derek Williams but who else? the only guys in the room outside of Bugg, Catalon, Williams are Crawford, Taaffe and 2 dudes who i assume will be portaling out at the end of the year (BJ Allen hasn't played in a game since Rice. Hyphen hasn't played in a single game this year)
with how many rotations they are playing at CB, i kind of question why they haven't tried to shift anyone over to safety to at least have some more cross training/guys ready.
it absolutely feels like we are going to see some portal movement at safety this offseason. guessing thompson comes back, catalon probably is NFL bound?, another year of williams would be great. did i imagine that Jordan or McDonald were talked about as potentially being safties vs CBs when they were recruited?
Aeryn Hampton sure seems to be on the Jaydon Blue "he may make it to campus, he may not, he may play a snap, he may not, he may stay with the program and he may pull a Cecil Cherry at any time" career path. i think he is more of a CB vs a safety? i also thought that JJR was a safety but maybe not. Robinson was listed as a safety by 247 but is a "DB" on the depth chart and hasn't played in a single game yet.

the participation report just let me know that 1) there is someone on the team named Tannehill Love 2) he plays LB and 3) he played vs Rice
 

Sounds like an aggy fan club, don't remember seeing him on the field...and if he was he didn't do anything notable.

Walk-ons generally don't. 

[cmontexas 3270]

Tannahill Love is Tim Love's kid

[Vertigo 20276]

6 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You're not required to think as rigidly about personnel as the meatheaded moron calling the shots at safety. If there was high functioning leadership on the defensive side of the ball, we'd be seeing other people in the rotation. Jordan, Guilbeau and Barron can all play safety. Roberson and McDonald should be getting looks. If the secondary is net-better with Barron at safety and Guilbeau at NB, then fucking play that combo. 

Taaffe is a more likeable, slightly more athletic version of Blake Gideon. He's just not athletic enough to be out there against quality competition. Crawford would be a bad safety on a high school team as a 20-something year old man right now. He has no business being on the field. Texas could not do worse than that combo. 

It's not complicated. Football coaches crave predictability and comfort and they tend to favor players who remind them of themselves. They're often egotistical and below average intelligence. Blake Gideon checks all of those boxes. Kwiatkowski clearly isn't pushing him to solve anything. ]

They're just trotting out there whoever Gideon is feeling at that moment and the consequences are measurable on a weekly basis. The only thing I'm hopeful about with safety is that Williams continues to get more and more snaps until he's a fixture back there. 

I think Taaffe is fine for this stretch of BYU & KSU. He has picks the last two weeks and at least he gets lined up correctly and knows where to go. I heard this QB Johnson is the fastest dude on their team, and he had a laser timed 4.52. That means that there likely isn't a receiver on that squad cracking a 4.6. That sounds like just the type of game that Taafe can play. Now I don't want to see him on the field versus TCU at all, but he should be serviceable this game. 

[NoName 16351]

7 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You're not required to think as rigidly about personnel as the meatheaded moron calling the shots at safety. If there was high functioning leadership on the defensive side of the ball, we'd be seeing other people in the rotation. Jordan, Guilbeau and Barron can all play safety. Roberson and McDonald should be getting looks. If the secondary is net-better with Barron at safety and Guilbeau at NB, then fucking play that combo. 

Taaffe is a more likeable, slightly more athletic version of Blake Gideon. He's just not athletic enough to be out there against quality competition. Crawford would be a bad safety on a high school team as a 20-something year old man right now. He has no business being on the field. Texas could not do worse than that combo. 

It's not complicated. Football coaches crave predictability and comfort and they tend to favor players who remind them of themselves. They're often egotistical and below average intelligence. Blake Gideon checks all of those boxes. Kwiatkowski clearly isn't pushing him to solve anything. ]

They're just trotting out there whoever Gideon is feeling at that moment and the consequences are measurable on a weekly basis. The only thing I'm hopeful about with safety is that Williams continues to get more and more snaps until he's a fixture back there. 

i agree with all of this.

wonder when his contract is over and if his ties to Texas save him. have to imagine with everything rocking and rolling it makes it easier to move on from him.

[Butch Had Not 2969]

24 minutes ago, NoName said:

i agree with all of this.

wonder when his contract is over and if his ties to Texas save him. have to imagine with everything rocking and rolling it makes it easier to move on from him.

Maybe a North Texas or Incarnate will throw him a DC position.  He's not going to coach ST or safeties somewhere else unless he's publicly fired. 

[texifornia 56870]

 

[BevoFlyer 15]

Sunbelt Billy isn't long for the SEC unless Flardah finishes the season really strong. Any of his assistants should be polishing up their resumes soon.

Napier gets at least three years.

[Saint Tacky 1614]

Wrong thread

Edited November 4, 2023 by Saint Tacky
wrong thread

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

8-1 looks good 

[Radical Larry 28566]

8-1 looks good 

Sir, there is no optimism allowed here.

[Atticus 3973]

Texas wins, Florida and A&M lose. Good start to the day

[Burt Macklin 19020]

1 hour ago, Atticus said:

Texas wins, Florida and A&M lose. Good start to the day

That was the last game Florida will be favored in for the rest of the season. 5-7 is still very much in play for them. 

[Bevo14 8303]

18 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

That was the last game Florida will be favored in for the rest of the season. 5-7 is still very much in play for them. 

I wouldn't care if they weren't random-flavor-of-the-month school in recruiting this year.

[Elmer_Fudd 22204]

41 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

That was the last game Florida will be favored in for the rest of the season. 5-7 is still very much in play for them. 

Yep, Florida's next three:  @ LSU, @ Mizzou, vs FSU.

Come on down Mack and Filsaime.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Elmer_Fudd

[Atticus 3973]

12 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Yep, Florida's next three:  @ LSU, @ Mizzou, vs FSU.

Come on down Mack and Filsaime.

I think Mack flips to FSU if they push, Filsaime is the one I'm really hoping for.

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

There is a decent chance Napier will be coaching to save his job that last week against FSU now. There are lot of key people around Gainesville who never wanted him in the first place and they were already handing out freshly sharpened pitchforks and lit torches early this year when things seemed to be headed down the toilet. 

Obviously that talk quieted down when they started playing better and won some key recruiting victories but if they miss a bowl? I don't think he survives that. If nothing else this should help take the pressure off with Robinson. 

 

 

[Butch Had Not 2969]

4 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

There is a decent chance Napier will be coaching to save his job that last week against FSU now. There are lot of key people around Gainesville who never wanted him in the first place and they were already handing out freshly sharpened pitchforks and lit torches early this year when things seemed to be headed down the toilet. 

Obviously that talk quieted down when they started playing better and won some key recruiting victories but if they miss a bowl? I don't think he survives that. If nothing else this should help take the pressure off with Robinson. 

 

 

Who would they accept as the new HC? And who would want it that makes sense?

[Hornius Emeritus 12453]

4 minutes ago, Butch Had Not said:

Who would they accept as the new HC? And who would want it that makes sense?

He's tanned, he's rested ...

 

 

 

 

[Dbeasy 15042]

Taaffe drives me insane but he did hustle to get that int. 

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

Is this good for RB recruiting? 

[Not a Sock 2311]

36 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

There is a decent chance Napier will be coaching to save his job that last week against FSU now. There are lot of key people around Gainesville who never wanted him in the first place and they were already handing out freshly sharpened pitchforks and lit torches early this year when things seemed to be headed down the toilet. 

Obviously that talk quieted down when they started playing better and won some key recruiting victories but if they miss a bowl? I don't think he survives that. If nothing else this should help take the pressure off with Robinson. 

 

 

They’re not firing him after two years, that would take an exceptional disaster of mass decommits and transfers and total locker room revolt which doesn’t remotely seem to be and issue. Florida is now in the exact same situation as Texas was in 2015 with Charlie Strong.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Not a Sock

[HtownHorn 14671]

There is no way that Florida hangs onto those 2 DBs that Texas wants.

[NOOBSDUDE 588]

I think Mack flips to FSU if they push, Filsaime is the one I'm really hoping for.

Yea we need speed at the safety position bad.