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Finally can tell my aggy story.    Have a good insight into this kids recruitment and I’m still laughing about his visit to aggy. Dude gets his player host (I’ll let y’all find who that is) and

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How do you think this is helpful? Not being a jerk, just asking y'all to keep your shit together and use common sense. In any event, I know for a fact that nothing ever happens with Texas until a

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He could have if he isn't. Play devil's advocate and tell us why you feel about this guy's overall approach to his recruitment and how that either translates to the next level or doesn't matter.

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50 minutes ago, PTINS said:

PhD; “Doctor of Philosophy,” which refers to the immense knowledge a student gains when earning the degree.

The practical application of that knowledge after earning said degree is another story.  Our PhD contributor has not made the distinction between committing and signing.

Wrong interpretation.  It stands for pretty huge dick.

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1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Think is saw that Butler is an EE and will make a decision tomorrow.

Well, then thinking through my prior conversation with a buddy with this information, I guess the bigger takeaway we should have is that Texas really isn't very interested in Bussey. I didn't sense there was some kind of bullishness about an immediate signing.

51 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Adding him to our class would push us to 3 I do believe in class ranking

See above. I doubt we will need to do much math on this one.

45 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Yep.  Now go watch Alex January's hudl and the guy we just got in the 25' class, Brandon Brown and see the difference.

I have a friend that saw Brown recently and watched him in-person. Raves about the dude and thinks he will be criminally underrated. Said he's an animal that loves football and will kill it working with Bo Davis.

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54 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I just watched McKinley's junior and senior tape and it doesn't scream 5-star to me. Great size and frame, but it's just a lot of clips of him making kinda normal DT run stops, not wreaking havoc. College guards will be able to hold those blocks against him for longer.

Compare, for example, to Colin Simmons' tape, which is him running past 6A tackles practically before they get out of their stance.

Well, Simmons is an Edge, and I think that’s a position that more easily pops on film, but I do agree with your overall point that McKinley doesn’t play like a 5-star.

People talk about this with OL, but I think that DT is also a position that recruiting services are just really bad at evaluating. Too much focus on ready-made frames and measurables, not enough on actual gameplay and potential for growth.

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Texas is in a great position to make some student athletes very wealthy outside the current model. I think the real money will roll into NIL when the players figure out how to monetize brand endorsement and social media. 

Austin is one of the biggest media markets without pro sports (I like Austin FC, but come on.) Longhorn athletes can fill the same TV roles as Spurs and Astros in their respective markets. And our alumni base is huge for turbo-charging an influencer's follows/subs. Remember within weeks of NIL openning, the richest athlete in NCAA was the stupid-hot LSU gymnast with a ton of IG spank-bankers.

Currently, athletes are just working out base salaries. They'll be making a shit-ton when this gets sophisticated. And UT Austin is in as good a position as any uni to dominate.

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Ian Boyd: Grading Texas' 2024 recruiting class on the championship metric

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The 2023 Longhorns were the first Texas team in a long time who could actually claim to have Championship-caliber athletes on the field at the positions which matter most. What positions are those? In order, wide receiver, defensive tackle, left tackle, cornerback, and Edge. Those positions routinely face big time battles with high stakes on the field where elite athleticism is essential to carry the day.

You can get by with well developed, scrappy seniors who pass a certain baseline of athleticism at most positions, but not so much at those five. There’s only so much you can do as a team without elite athletes at those positions. This year Texas has the Outland Trophy winner at defensive tackle, is strong at cornerback and Edge, has a pair of NFL Draft picks at outside receiver, and another at left tackle. How will future Longhorn teams look at these positions after Texas officially signs this 2024 recruiting class? Let’s break it down.

Wide receiver

There’s no position which can dominate in the modern game quite like wide receiver. It’s always been an important position despite being a touch undervalued in the national conversation. There’s a reason the San Francisco 49ers had a seamless transition from one Hall of Fame, Super Bowl quarterback to another and his name was Jerry Rice.

Modern rules which make it harder to physically maul receivers during their routes or after the catch have strengthened this trend. These days offenses like Steve Sarkisian’s are designed to help them spring open as the primary read so the quarterback can get them the ball almost as consistently and reliably as you would a top running back in the old I-formation.

The portal is changing wide receiver recruiting. As essential as the position has become it’s also now possible to bring in star players through the portal with enough consistency to diminish the importance of high school recruiting. However, Texas still brought in three weapons.

Ryan Wingo is the headliner. At 6-foot-2, 210 pounds with 10.64 100m speed, Wingo is in a different class of size and speed than your typical wideout. He has a lot of promise on the sorts of play-action double moves Sark loves but is also a no brainer on crossing patterns and screens as a playmaker with the ball in his hands. Freddie Dubose is 6-foot-0, 170 pounds and similar to Xavier Worthy in overall disposition. He has long speed and ball tracking skills to make another promising deep ball target. Parker Livingstone is more of a big target who has a knack for getting a good release down the field but is going to stand out for using his 6-foot-3 frame to get the ball out of the air.

Grade: A-. There isn’t a ton of big time star talent here aside from Wingo but all three players are promising and portal recruiting is an equally important part of the equation here.

Defensive tackle

As Bill Parcells noted with his “planet theory,” there’s only so many 300+ pound people in the world who are also elite athletes. In the game of football, you want them on your team playing left tackle or defensive tackle. Texas is loading up on some big-framed prospects for defensive tackle in this class. The hope is one or two of them might grow and develop under Bo Davis’ tutelage as well as T’Vondre Sweat and Byron Murphy did.

D’Antre Robinson is the highest ranked addition and hails all the way from Orlando, Fla. Davis has clearly made it a point to hit the Deep South for SEC D-tackles. Robinson is about 6-foot-4, 315 pounds and projects as another two-gapping 3-technique down the line. Alex January may be a stronger prospect for the same role after dominating doing exactly that the last two years at Duncanville. Melvin Hills of Louisiana is your quick, disruptive nose tackle of the group.

Grade: A. This isn’t a highly touted group necessarily yet Texas has put together some pretty large and gifted players here for Bo Davis to work with in coming seasons.

Left tackle

The most important position on an offensive line. If you have a stud left tackle who can hold up 1-on-1 against a good Edge it’s easier to shade help for the other players on the offensive line. Texas is taking a relatively small line class this cycle, likely in anticipation of another big haul in 2025, but it grabbed a big time headliner to top it off in Brandon Baker.

The 6-foot-5 Mater Dei tackle is a fantastic athlete whose abilities have shown up quickly in run blocking at Mater Dei. He may began his career at Texas playing right tackle or guard but in the long term his athleticism and ceiling would be owning the left tackle position.

Grade: B+. Baker is about as good as it gets for tackle prospects but he’s the only one in this O-line class as Nate Kibble and Daniel Cruz both project to be mauling interior linemen.

Cornerback

It’s getting harder and harder to win at the highest levels without fielding cornerbacks who can play man coverage on good receivers and challenge the route tree without giving away easy pitch and catch offense. Texas will have to overcome a 1st round draft pick at receiver in these upcoming playoff runs and talents of that caliber nearly thwarted both of Georgia’s last two Championships despite the Bulldogs’ quality secondaries. For the Longhorns in particular, the state of Texas routinely produces some of the best skill talents on offense and defense in the country and a failure to maximize with a good cornerback class would be a high opportunity cost.

Kobe Black is the most recent addition, a freakish 6-foot-1 athlete (6-foot-7 wingspan) whose older brother was the best cornerback for Big 12 runner-up Oklahoma State. Black projects as exactly the sort of cornerback to be able to stop routes before they start in press coverage. Wardell Mack has good length as well (33.5″ arms) with some quickness and physicality in his game that could see him translate inside at nickel if not at cornerback.

Santana Wilson is very similar to Terrance Brooks. He has a professional approach thanks to having an NFL safety as a father (like Brooks) and his particular knack is for using his length and physicality to help him do his work early, jamming up receivers to disrupt the timing of their routes.

Grade: A+. Texas signed three highly coveted prospects with the athleticism and length to play an aggressive brand of coverage.

Edge

The value of a dominant Edge is much more pronounced in the NFL where offenses plan on having their quarterbacks drop back and read through progressions before delivering the ball. In college teams tend to spit the ball out within 2-4 seconds and there isn’t enough time for a great pass-rusher to work off the edge and get to the quarterback.

Nevertheless, an elite athlete here can discourage good passing offenses from being able to take shots and also presents challenges for off-tackle and option-style college run concepts. You don’t want to face a dominant Edge with a college O-line if your victory hinges on good passing down performance. In the playoffs, fielding great Edges is going to matter more and more in the future.

Texas is bringing in an all-time haul here with Colin Simmons and Zina Umeozulu. Simmons is an absolute blur on the edge and one of the more exciting pass-rushing prospects the state has seen in a while. Umeozulu is the younger brother of Texas O-linemen Neto Umeozulu and figures to fill out into a Jack (strongside end) who can set the edge and develop as a pass-rusher as well.

Grade: A. It would have been hard to do better. Texas signed a good prospect for both positions and one of them might be a generational talent.

Overall the Longhorns are building an offense that can protect the quarterback while he takes big swings in the passing game to downfield threats and a defense designed to allow them to swarm a passing attack while stopping the run without overcommitting resources. This class is going to make a big difference in building a sustained run of excellence in those schemes on the 40 Acres.

 

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Left tackle

The most important position on an offensive line. If you have a stud left tackle who can hold up 1-on-1 against a good Edge it’s easier to shade help for the other players on the offensive line. Texas is taking a relatively small line class this cycle, likely in anticipation of another big haul in 2025, but it grabbed a big time headliner to top it off in Brandon Baker.

The 6-foot-5 Mater Dei tackle is a fantastic athlete whose abilities have shown up quickly in run blocking at Mater Dei. He may began his career at Texas playing right tackle or guard but in the long term his athleticism and ceiling would be owning the left tackle position.

Grade: B+. Baker is about as good as it gets for tackle prospects but he’s the only one in this O-line class as Nate Kibble and Daniel Cruz both project to be mauling interior linemen.

Wait what? If he's grading left tackle alone and projecting Baker there, why is that a B+? Should we have 2-3 five star left tackle prospects in one class?

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1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Ian Boyd: Grading Texas' 2024 recruiting class on the championship metric

 

You sick bastard. 

33 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Wait what? If he's grading left tackle alone and projecting Baker there, why is that a B+? Should we have 2-3 five star left tackle prospects in one class?

Don’t be mad at Ian Boyd. Be mad at yourself for reading Ian Boyd. 

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3 hours ago, tokamak said:

I just watched McKinley's junior and senior tape and it doesn't scream 5-star to me. Great size and frame, but it's just a lot of clips of him making kinda normal DT run stops, not wreaking havoc. College guards will be able to hold those blocks against him for longer.

Compare, for example, to Colin Simmons' tape, which is him running past 6A tackles practically before they get out of their stance.

Somebody just needs to explain to Dominick that the team is his family, and his job is to protect his family. Maybe his mom should go to the practice, and she can stop practice to show him how to use his protective instinct, and he will become an NFL starter. It's all just a matter of Sandra Bullock staging an intervention, really. Should be easy, she's a Longhorn fan.

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11 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Why does watching the complete gutting of the A&M football program bring me so much joy? 

For those of us in this forum it is the two joys of schadenfreude and "I told you so" combined. We started stating immediately that the Fisher contract was absurd and would come back to bite them in the ass, then we told them that hiring mercenaries would backfire, then we told them that trying to finally ramp up the bag game as NIL was getting started was comically absurd. Throughout it all they insisted we were dumb and they were brilliant all led by their #1 idiotic grifter The Blooch.

So now we are being vindicated while watching those morons implode. And they keep giving us ammo even while it's happening because they still refuse to admit that they were wrong and we were right. They know it but they are still desperately clinging to hope that they can somehow bend public perception to say the '22 class wasn't actually bought and paid for mercenaries but they really loved A&M. So they reject their first hire in an internet tantrum to hire the guy they foolishly believed could hold their roster and recruiting together. And he is pouring gasoline on the dumpster fire that is their program. 

All because they are too stupid and proud to ever publicly admit Texas fans were right. Which is exactly why it's okay for us to publicly and loudly share over and over again what mistakes they're making and how they should do it. Because the absolute best way for Texas fans to make sure A&M never does the right thing is for Texas to tell them what they should be doing instead. Every single time they have a decision to make they fuck it up because they don't want people to think they listened to Texas people or that they do things like Texas would do them. 

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24 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

FYI...take with a grain of salt though. This dude is a jackass. 

 

He's actually a Rivals mod for aggy.  Puts in picks like Hamm used to for anyone he might think will end up at aggy.  Then changes last minute.  He doesn't know diddly-pooh.

Feeling great about Evans would have meant signing the first morning, especially coming off an OV the prior weekend.

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

For those of us in this forum it is the two joys of schadenfreude and "I told you so" combined. We started stating immediately that the Fisher contract was absurd and would come back to bite them in the ass, then we told them that hiring mercenaries would backfire, then we told them that trying to finally ramp up the bag game as NIL was getting started was comically absurd. Throughout it all they insisted we were dumb and they were brilliant all led by their #1 idiotic grifter The Blooch.

So now we are being vindicated while watching those morons implode. And they keep giving us ammo even while it's happening because they still refuse to admit that they were wrong and we were right. They know it but they are still desperately clinging to hope that they can somehow bend public perception to say the '22 class wasn't actually bought and paid for mercenaries but they really loved A&M. So they reject their first hire in an internet tantrum to hire the guy they foolishly believed could hold their roster and recruiting together. And he is pouring gasoline on the dumpster fire that is their program. 

All because they are too stupid and proud to ever publicly admit Texas fans were right. Which is exactly why it's okay for us to publicly and loudly share over and over again what mistakes they're making and how they should do it. Because the absolute best way for Texas fans to make sure A&M never does the right thing is for Texas to tell them what they should be doing instead. Every single time they have a decision to make they fuck it up because they don't want people to think they listened to Texas people or that they do things like Texas would do them. 

Well, if we're being honest, they got fucked by the SEC!  SEC!  SEC!, as they had a gentlemen's agreement.

 

 

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